Spam from the year 2038? - Mozilla

This is a discussion on Spam from the year 2038? - Mozilla ; Boyd Porter wrote: > On 09/18/2006 07:31 PM, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: > >> Go back 20 years, heck my desktop today has almost as much power and >> speed as the 'supercomputers' did then. > > > And then ...

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  1. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Boyd Porter wrote:
    > On 09/18/2006 07:31 PM, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    >> Go back 20 years, heck my desktop today has almost as much power and
    >> speed as the 'supercomputers' did then.

    >
    >
    > And then there is the fact that the Apple MacBook on my desk is light
    > years removed from the NASA computers that flew Mercury, Gemini, and
    > Apollo. Sort've scary when you think about it.
    >
    > Just showing my age
    >
    > Have a nice day!
    >
    > Boyd
    >

    Yes, I believe the computer NASA used for their mission control were
    much less capable than the one I am using now. The ones on the Apollo
    missions only had something like 64k RAM...

  2. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Jay Garcia wrote:
    > On 18.09.2006 19:31, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    > --- Original Message ---
    >
    >> When hard drives first arrived, 2MB was HUGE!
    >> They are now offering 100GB drives

    >
    > My first computer was an Apple II with a 40 mb HD
    >
    > My present system here runs with 4-300GB outboard USB-2/Firewire drives
    >
    >> In 1992, 28K was the optimum connection speed, it was IMPOSSIBLE to
    >> exceed that. Then along came 56K, DSL, ADSL, Cable. My connection speed
    >> is almost 1MB per second.

    >
    > That's slow even by today's standards. Cox just announce it's new 12meg
    > service which I'm testing at the moment. I'm not in that big a hurry to
    > download stuff but video streaming is awesome.
    >
    > Prime time speedtest a few mins ago:
    >
    > Download Speed: 10666 kbps (1333.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    > Upload Speed: 1037 kbps (129.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    >
    > Not too shabby.
    >

    Which is nothing compared to the speeds available on fiber to the door
    system available only a few miles north of here. sigh. 30mbps, each
    way. Now if they could just get it to work reliably... Note that no
    matter HOW fast your connection is, the site you are getting data from
    will still limit your speed, and we all wait at 0bps.

  3. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    In article <7Y-dnYVh07hcLJLYnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@mozilla.org>, Ron Hunter
    wrote:
    > Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    > > gwtc wrote:
    > >
    > > Well, Billy-boy used Apples Mac GUI interface to write Windows I ya
    > > know. Windows I was a LICENSED Apple product in fact.
    > >
    > > By the time Windows 3 had come out, Billy-boy had changed things enough
    > > that a license was no longer required, or so he thought. Apple
    > > disagreed, but the courts sided with Billy-boy.
    > >
    > > So, if you want to blame this on anyone, blame APPLE!


    > You should know that Apple 'borrowed' the GUI from the Xerox PARC
    > research. Apple didn't invent the GUI any more than MS did.


    I don't think you can put Microsoft and invented in the same sentence. Now,
    stole, that is much easier!

    --
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  4. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Mark Fraser (News) wrote:
    > In article <7Y-dnYVh07hcLJLYnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@mozilla.org>, Ron Hunter
    > wrote:
    >> Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>> gwtc wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Well, Billy-boy used Apples Mac GUI interface to write Windows I ya
    >>> know. Windows I was a LICENSED Apple product in fact.
    >>>
    >>> By the time Windows 3 had come out, Billy-boy had changed things enough
    >>> that a license was no longer required, or so he thought. Apple
    >>> disagreed, but the courts sided with Billy-boy.
    >>>
    >>> So, if you want to blame this on anyone, blame APPLE!

    >
    >> You should know that Apple 'borrowed' the GUI from the Xerox PARC
    >> research. Apple didn't invent the GUI any more than MS did.

    >
    > I don't think you can put Microsoft and invented in the same sentence. Now,
    > stole, that is much easier!
    >




    Apple 'borrowed' some of the interface elements from SPARC (Xerox PARC)
    but not the entire gamut.
    Just like Bill Gates didnt simply copy the Apple interface, but used it
    as a base guideline of sorts.

    Window I might have been a derivative work based on Apple, but by
    Windows 3 it no longer bore much resemblance to the Apple code at all.
    'Look and Feel' which Apple based its lawsuit on, was not enough to
    determine it a derivative work.
    And thats most likely how any court challenge from Xerox (SPARC/PARC)
    would boil down to as well. The code isnt a copy, its the same look and
    feel (or similar anyway).

  5. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Ron Hunter wrote:
    > Boyd Porter wrote:
    >> On 09/18/2006 07:31 PM, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>
    >>> Go back 20 years, heck my desktop today has almost as much power and
    >>> speed as the 'supercomputers' did then.

    >>
    >>
    >> And then there is the fact that the Apple MacBook on my desk is light
    >> years removed from the NASA computers that flew Mercury, Gemini, and
    >> Apollo. Sort've scary when you think about it.
    >>
    >> Just showing my age
    >>
    >> Have a nice day!
    >>
    >> Boyd
    >>

    > Yes, I believe the computer NASA used for their mission control were
    > much less capable than the one I am using now. The ones on the Apollo
    > missions only had something like 64k RAM...


    Mission Control computer

    Word Length: 15 bits plus parity.
    Fixed Memory Registers: 36,864 Words.
    Erasable Memory Registors: 2.048 Words.
    Number of Normal Instructions: 34.
    Number of Involuntary nstructions
    (Increment, interrupt, etc.): 10.
    Number of Interface Circuits: 227.
    Memory Cycle time: 11.7 microseconds.
    Addition Time: 23.4 microseconds.
    Multiplication Time: 46.8 microseconds.
    Number of Logic Gates: 5,600 (2,800 packages)
    Volume: 0.97 cubic feet.
    Weight: 70 pounds.
    Power Consumption: 55 watts.

    The Apollo computers
    http://www.abc.net.au/science/moon/computer.htm


  6. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    > Mark Fraser (News) wrote:
    >> In article <7Y-dnYVh07hcLJLYnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@mozilla.org>, Ron Hunter
    >> wrote:
    >>> Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>>> gwtc wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Well, Billy-boy used Apples Mac GUI interface to write Windows I ya
    >>>> know. Windows I was a LICENSED Apple product in fact.
    >>>>
    >>>> By the time Windows 3 had come out, Billy-boy had changed things enough
    >>>> that a license was no longer required, or so he thought. Apple
    >>>> disagreed, but the courts sided with Billy-boy.
    >>>>
    >>>> So, if you want to blame this on anyone, blame APPLE!

    >>
    >>> You should know that Apple 'borrowed' the GUI from the Xerox PARC
    >>> research. Apple didn't invent the GUI any more than MS did.

    >>
    >> I don't think you can put Microsoft and invented in the same sentence.
    >> Now,
    >> stole, that is much easier!
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    > Apple 'borrowed' some of the interface elements from SPARC (Xerox PARC)
    > but not the entire gamut.
    > Just like Bill Gates didnt simply copy the Apple interface, but used it
    > as a base guideline of sorts.
    >
    > Window I might have been a derivative work based on Apple, but by
    > Windows 3 it no longer bore much resemblance to the Apple code at all.
    > 'Look and Feel' which Apple based its lawsuit on, was not enough to
    > determine it a derivative work.
    > And thats most likely how any court challenge from Xerox (SPARC/PARC)
    > would boil down to as well. The code isnt a copy, its the same look and
    > feel (or similar anyway).


    No court challenge is possible since the work was done on a government
    contract. Still, Apple didn't ask, and then had the temerity to
    complain that Atari copied their interface, to which Atari replied, so
    sue us. Apple couldn't, and knew it. end of history lesson.

  7. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 9/17/2006 3:35 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:


    >>> Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    >>>> I seem to receive a lot of spam dated 2038. Boner pills and home
    >>>> mortgages,




    > Um, why worry about it?




    I ain't worried. Just commenting, is all. JMC catches nearly every one
    of them. But every so often, I have to climb down into the fetid Junk
    folder to look for a false positive. I sort by date, in there, and
    notice all them spams from the future. Causes me to pause and wonder
    what crosses the grubby little mind of the spammer to make him or her
    use that year.

    After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.

    --

    Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott

  8. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 18.09.2006 19:13, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused RAV to
    generate the following:? :

    >squaredancer wrote:
    >
    >
    >>On 18.09.2006 08:05, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Rinaldi J.
    >>Montessi to generate the following:? :
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>gwtc wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >>>>wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >>>>problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >>>>forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >>>>programmed it all.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.
    >>>
    >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
    >>>
    >>>Rinaldi
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>pah! OF COURSE it's Billy-Boy's fault.... there's no-one else here... 8-)
    >>
    >>btw - the year2K problem was a result of the *very* early DOS codes for
    >>4 and 8 bit processors - the limitation as per 32 bit was analog the
    >>same (could only date two digits)
    >>
    >>reg
    >>
    >>

    >
    >That may be in part true for microprocessor-based systems, but storing
    >of 2-digit years was in vogue long before DOS existed, and even with
    >very early 32-bit mainframe systems. The problem then was memory, as in
    >not enough of it, and believe it or not using 2-digit years (and other
    >similar techniques) saved a lot of memory. In those days we developed
    >fully functional apps in memory spaces of 32KB (not MB) and smaller.
    >
    >

    *lol* ... do *you* remember the Zuse Z80 ??? I do!

    reg

  9. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    > On 9/17/2006 3:35 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    >
    >>>> Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    >>>>> I seem to receive a lot of spam dated 2038. Boner pills and home
    >>>>> mortgages,

    >
    >
    >
    >> Um, why worry about it?

    >
    >
    >
    > I ain't worried. Just commenting, is all. JMC catches nearly every one
    > of them. But every so often, I have to climb down into the fetid Junk
    > folder to look for a false positive. I sort by date, in there, and
    > notice all them spams from the future. Causes me to pause and wonder
    > what crosses the grubby little mind of the spammer to make him or her
    > use that year.
    >
    > After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.
    >



    I review all my spam, I go to each and every web page listed. Nothing to
    be afraid of. Most of it is people trying to make a buck, nothing more,
    nothing less.

  10. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 9/20/2006 1:26 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

    > Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:


    >>
    >> After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.
    >>

    >
    >
    > I review all my spam, I go to each and every web page listed. Nothing to
    > be afraid of. Most of it is people trying to make a buck, nothing more,
    > nothing less.


    My wife reads all the four-color advertisements that clog up our paper
    mail box, so I reckon that if a fellow feels like reading all his email
    spam and checking out the web sites, then good on ya.

    --

    Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott

  11. Re: Spam from the year 2038?


    "Mike Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message
    news:bMCdncauRqlbAozYnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@mozilla.org. ..
    > On 9/20/2006 1:26 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    >> Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:

    >
    >>>
    >>> After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> I review all my spam, I go to each and every web page listed. Nothing to
    >> be afraid of. Most of it is people trying to make a buck, nothing more,
    >> nothing less.

    >
    > My wife reads all the four-color advertisements that clog up our paper
    > mail box, so I reckon that if a fellow feels like reading all his email
    > spam and checking out the web sites, then good on ya.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott



    You have a paper mail box? How long does that last? You must be in Phoenix?
    LOL

    Rich



  12. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    > On 9/20/2006 1:26 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    >> Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:

    >
    >>>
    >>> After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> I review all my spam, I go to each and every web page listed. Nothing
    >> to be afraid of. Most of it is people trying to make a buck, nothing
    >> more, nothing less.

    >
    > My wife reads all the four-color advertisements that clog up our paper
    > mail box, so I reckon that if a fellow feels like reading all his email
    > spam and checking out the web sites, then good on ya.
    >


    I check them out to see if they are still 'up and running', then I close
    em down

    It would be no good at all to complain to a host that www.spammner.city
    that they host is spamming me/benifiting from spam/aiding or abetting
    spam (images/sign off/forwards), if they had already closed it now would
    it? They dont appreciate complaints about sites they have already taken
    appropriate steps to eliminate.

  13. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 20.09.2006 22:11, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Rich to
    generate the following:? :

    >"Mike Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message
    >news:bMCdncauRqlbAozYnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@mozilla.org. ..
    >
    >
    >>On 9/20/2006 1:26 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>I review all my spam, I go to each and every web page listed. Nothing to
    >>>be afraid of. Most of it is people trying to make a buck, nothing more,
    >>>nothing less.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>My wife reads all the four-color advertisements that clog up our paper
    >>mail box, so I reckon that if a fellow feels like reading all his email
    >>spam and checking out the web sites, then good on ya.
    >>
    >>--
    >>
    >>Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >You have a paper mail box? How long does that last? You must be in Phoenix?
    >LOL
    >
    >Rich
    >
    >
    >
    >

    when I visited Phoenis (1993) they had 102 at the airport - I reckon
    Mike's paper mailbox would burn 8-)

    reg

  14. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    squaredancer wrote:
    > On 20.09.2006 22:11, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Rich to
    > generate the following:? :
    >
    >> "Mike Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message
    >> news:bMCdncauRqlbAozYnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@mozilla.org. ..
    >>
    >>
    >>> On 9/20/2006 1:26 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> I review all my spam, I go to each and every web page listed. Nothing to
    >>>> be afraid of. Most of it is people trying to make a buck, nothing more,
    >>>> nothing less.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> My wife reads all the four-color advertisements that clog up our paper
    >>> mail box, so I reckon that if a fellow feels like reading all his email
    >>> spam and checking out the web sites, then good on ya.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> You have a paper mail box? How long does that last? You must be in Phoenix?
    >> LOL
    >>
    >> Rich
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > when I visited Phoenis


    ?????????????????????????????????

    > (1993) they had 102 at the airport - I reckon
    > Mike's paper mailbox would burn 8-)
    >
    > reg



    --
    Linguistic Evolution continued . . . In the third year, publik
    akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage
    where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will
    enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a
    deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of
    silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go. By the
    fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by
    "z" and "W" by "V". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd
    from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors; be aplid
    to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli
    sensibl riten styl. Zer vil b no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun
    vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.

  15. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 22.09.2006 01:33, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused gwtc to
    generate the following:? :

    >squaredancer wrote:
    >
    >
    >>On 20.09.2006 22:11, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Rich to
    >>generate the following:? :
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>"Mike Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message
    >>>news:bMCdncauRqlbAozYnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@mozilla.org. ..
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>On 9/20/2006 1:26 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>I review all my spam, I go to each and every web page listed. Nothing to
    >>>>>be afraid of. Most of it is people trying to make a buck, nothing more,
    >>>>>nothing less.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>My wife reads all the four-color advertisements that clog up our paper
    >>>>mail box, so I reckon that if a fellow feels like reading all his email
    >>>>spam and checking out the web sites, then good on ya.
    >>>>
    >>>>--
    >>>>
    >>>>Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>You have a paper mail box? How long does that last? You must be in Phoenix?
    >>>LOL
    >>>
    >>>Rich
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>when I visited Phoenis
    >>
    >>

    >
    >?????????????????????????????????
    >
    >
    >
    >>(1993) they had 102 at the airport - I reckon
    >>Mike's paper mailbox would burn 8-)
    >>
    >>reg
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    >

    yeah! I *meant* Furnace :-P

    reg

  16. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    squaredancer wrote:
    > On 22.09.2006 01:33, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused gwtc to
    > generate the following:? :
    >
    >> squaredancer wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> On 20.09.2006 22:11, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Rich to
    >>> generate the following:? :
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> "Mike Rocket J Squirrel" wrote in message
    >>>> news:bMCdncauRqlbAozYnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@mozilla.org. ..
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 9/20/2006 1:26 AM Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> After I leave the Junk folder, I feel dirty. Need to take a shower. Feh.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> I review all my spam, I go to each and every web page listed. Nothing to
    >>>>>> be afraid of. Most of it is people trying to make a buck, nothing more,
    >>>>>> nothing less.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> My wife reads all the four-color advertisements that clog up our paper
    >>>>> mail box, so I reckon that if a fellow feels like reading all his email
    >>>>> spam and checking out the web sites, then good on ya.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> You have a paper mail box? How long does that last? You must be in Phoenix?
    >>>> LOL
    >>>>
    >>>> Rich
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> when I visited Phoenis
    >>>
    >>>

    >> ?????????????????????????????????
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> (1993) they had 102 at the airport - I reckon
    >>> Mike's paper mailbox would burn 8-)
    >>>
    >>> reg
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>

    > yeah! I *meant* Furnace :-P
    >
    > reg

    OK, that make sense now ;-)

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    God, "If this is Hell, I REALLY want to see Heaven!" "Fine," says
    God, and off they go. Heaven is a high place in the clouds, with
    angels drifting about playing harps and singing. It's very nice but
    not as enticing as Hell. Bill thinks for a moment and announces his
    decision. "Hmm, I think I prefer Hell." he tells God. "Fine," says
    God, "As you desire." So Bill Gates is taken to Hell. Two weeks
    later, God decides to check up on Bill to see how he's doing in Hell.
    When God arrives in Hell, he finds Bill shackled to a wall, screaming
    amongst the hot flames in a dark cave. He's being burned and tortured
    by demons. "How's everything going, Bill?" God asks. Bill replies,
    his voice full of anguish and disappointment, "This is awful, it's not
    what I expected at all, I can't believe it. What happened to that
    other place with the beaches and the beautiful women playing in the
    water?" God smiles and says, "That was the screen saver."

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