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  1. Losing account password?

    From time to time, password manager forgets the password of one of my
    accounts. What causes this? What can I do about it?

    Thanks.

    --
    Pete Holsberg
    Columbus, NJ

    "There is nothing better than a friend, unless it is a friend with chocolate..."
    --Charles Dickens



  2. Re: Losing account password?

    Pete Holsberg wrote:
    > From time to time, password manager forgets the password of one of my
    > accounts. What causes this? What can I do about it?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >


    this link may be helpful :
    http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...Thunderbird%29

  3. Re: Losing account password?

    Nir wrote:

    > Pete Holsberg wrote:


    >> From time to time, password manager forgets the password of
    >> one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do about
    >> it?
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>

    >
    > this link may be helpful :
    > http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...Thunderbird%29


    Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    pertinent.

    Thanks.

    --
    Pete Holsberg
    Columbus, NJ

    "All human actions have one or more of these seven causes:
    chance, nature, compulsion, habit, reason, passion, and desire..."
    -- Aristotle


  4. Re: Losing account password?

    Pete Holsberg wrote:
    > Nir wrote:
    >
    >> Pete Holsberg wrote:

    >
    >>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password of
    >>> one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do about
    >>> it?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >>>

    >>
    >> this link may be helpful :
    >> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...Thunderbird%29

    >
    > Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    > pertinent.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >


    can you see that password at
    Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?

  5. Re: Losing account password?

    Pete Holsberg wrote:
    > Nir wrote:
    >
    >> Pete Holsberg wrote:

    >
    >>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password of
    >>> one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do about
    >>> it?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >>>

    >>
    >> this link may be helpful :
    >> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...Thunderbird%29

    >
    > Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    > pertinent.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >


    check whether this preference
    'signon.rememberSignons' is set to 'true' or not.
    To check it , goto
    Tools>Options>Advanced>General>Config Editor .
    type that preference in filter. if it is *not*
    'true' , double click on it to set it 'true' .
    restart Thunderbird.

  6. Re: Losing account password?

    Nir wrote:

    > Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >> Nir wrote:
    >>
    >>> Pete Holsberg wrote:

    >>
    >>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password of
    >>>> one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do about
    >>>> it?
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> this link may be helpful :
    >>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...Thunderbird%29

    >>
    >> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >> pertinent.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>

    >
    > check whether this preference 'signon.rememberSignons' is set to 'true'
    > or not.
    > To check it , goto Tools>Options>Advanced>General>Config Editor . type
    > that preference in filter. if it is *not* 'true' , double click on it to
    > set it 'true' . restart Thunderbird.


    Already "true".

    Forgetfulness occurs with just one of many accounts.

    --
    Pete Holsberg
    Columbus, NJ

    "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot
    save the few who are rich..."
    -- John F. Kennedy


  7. Re: Losing account password?

    Nir wrote:

    > Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >> Nir wrote:
    >>
    >>> Pete Holsberg wrote:

    >>
    >>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password of
    >>>> one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do about
    >>>> it?
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> this link may be helpful :
    >>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...Thunderbird%29

    >>
    >> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >> pertinent.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>

    >
    > can you see that password at Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved
    > password?


    I'll look the next time it gets lost.

    Suppose it's there. What's the significance?

    Suppose it's _not_ there. What's the significance?

    --
    Pete Holsberg
    Columbus, NJ

    "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish..."
    -- Euripides


  8. Re: Losing account password?

    Pete Holsberg wrote:
    > Nir wrote:
    >
    >> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>> Nir wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password of
    >>>>> one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do about
    >>>>> it?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...Thunderbird%29
    >>>
    >>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>> pertinent.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >>>

    >>
    >> can you see that password at Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved
    >> password?

    >
    > I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >
    > Suppose it's there. What's the significance?
    >

    Delete that username and password manually through
    (Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved
    passowrd>Remove).
    Restart Thunderbird and check mail for that
    account. Thunderbird will prompt for username and
    password . put them correctly and check the
    checkbox to save the password using the password
    manager.
    [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...hunderbird%29]

    See Pete, it may caused by your mail server. Next
    time when you will get such problem, click on the
    'cancel' button when password manager ask you for
    password and Try to check mails after sometime.
    > Suppose it's _not_ there. What's the significance?
    >


  9. Re: Losing account password?

    Nir wrote:

    > Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >> Nir wrote:
    >>
    >>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password of
    >>>>>> one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do about
    >>>>>> it?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...Thunderbird%29
    >>>>
    >>>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>>> pertinent.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> can you see that password at Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View
    >>> saved password?

    >>
    >> I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >>
    >> Suppose it's there. What's the significance?
    >>

    > Delete that username and password manually through
    > (Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved passowrd>Remove).
    > Restart Thunderbird and check mail for that account. Thunderbird will
    > prompt for username and password . put them correctly and check the
    > checkbox to save the password using the password manager.
    > [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...hunderbird%29]
    >
    > See Pete, it may caused by your mail server. Next time when you will get
    > such problem, click on the 'cancel' button when password manager ask you
    > for password and Try to check mails after sometime.


    >> Suppose it's _not_ there. What's the significance?


    You didn't answer my questions. :-)

    --
    Pete Holsberg
    Columbus, NJ

    Maxim for the Internet Age: A journey of a thousand sites begins
    with a single click...


  10. Re: Losing account password?

    >
    > Suppose it's _not_ there. What's the
    > significance?
    >


    It will obviously be there unless you don't use to
    check 'remember password' option.
    If you have checked 'remember password' option (
    and it's not a server issue ) but still don't find
    any saved entry then it may be caused by file
    corruption ( 'signons.txt') although i have never
    heard that 'signons.txt' file can get corrupted.
    I'm trying to find any such bug entry at
    'https://bugzilla.mozilla.org' but still haven't
    get any proper entry.

  11. Re: Losing account password?

    Pete Holsberg wrote in
    news:mailman.3614.1156802789.4036.support-thunderbird@lists.mozil
    la.org:

    > Nir wrote:
    >
    >> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>> Nir wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password
    >>>>> of one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do
    >>>>> about it?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...red_%28Thunder
    >>>> bird%29
    >>>
    >>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>> pertinent.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >>>

    >>
    >> can you see that password at
    >> Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?

    >
    > I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >
    > Suppose it's there. What's the significance?


    Sometimes, when there's a problem at the server end, TB believes
    that the password has been rejected. It responds by prompting
    your for the correct password. The only solution is to wait for
    the server corrects itself.

    It's a long-standing bug.


    --
    }:-) Christopher Jahn
    {:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html

    The fewer clear facts you have in support of an opinion, the
    stronger your emotional attachment to that opinion.

  12. Re: Losing account password?

    Christopher Jahn wrote:
    > Pete Holsberg wrote in
    > news:mailman.3614.1156802789.4036.support-thunderbird@lists.mozil
    > la.org:
    >
    >> Nir wrote:
    >>
    >>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password
    >>>>>> of one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do
    >>>>>> about it?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...red_%28Thunder
    >>>>> bird%29
    >>>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>>> pertinent.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks.
    >>>>
    >>> can you see that password at
    >>> Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?

    >> I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >>
    >> Suppose it's there. What's the significance?

    >
    > Sometimes, when there's a problem at the server end, TB believes
    > that the password has been rejected. It responds by prompting
    > your for the correct password. The only solution is to wait for
    > the server corrects itself.
    >
    > It's a long-standing bug.
    >
    >

    atleast it is not true for POP3 or IMAP protocol .
    there was a similar NNTP server related issue
    which has been fixed for 1.5.0.7
    see this bug report :
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286628

  13. Re: Losing account password?

    Christopher Jahn wrote:

    > Pete Holsberg wrote in
    > news:mailman.3614.1156802789.4036.support-thunderbird@lists.mozil
    > la.org:
    >
    >> Nir wrote:
    >>
    >>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password
    >>>>>> of one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do
    >>>>>> about it?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...red_%28Thunder
    >>>>> bird%29
    >>>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>>> pertinent.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks.
    >>>>
    >>> can you see that password at
    >>> Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?

    >> I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >>
    >> Suppose it's there. What's the significance?

    >
    > Sometimes, when there's a problem at the server end, TB believes
    > that the password has been rejected. It responds by prompting
    > your for the correct password. The only solution is to wait for
    > the server corrects itself.
    >
    > It's a long-standing bug.


    So you're suggesting that if I look at View Saved Passwords, I
    will see the password for that account?

    --
    Pete Holsberg
    Columbus, NJ

    To be able under all circumstances to practice five things
    constitutes perfect virtue; these five things are gravity,
    generosity of soul, sincerity, earnestness and kindness....
    --Confucius


  14. Re: Losing account password?

    Pete Holsberg wrote:
    > Christopher Jahn wrote:
    >
    >> Pete Holsberg wrote in
    >> news:mailman.3614.1156802789.4036.support-thunderbird@lists.mozil
    >> la.org:
    >>> Nir wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password
    >>>>>>> of one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do
    >>>>>>> about it?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...red_%28Thunder
    >>>>>> bird%29
    >>>>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>>>> pertinent.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>
    >>>> can you see that password at
    >>>> Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?
    >>> I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >>>
    >>> Suppose it's there. What's the significance?

    >>
    >> Sometimes, when there's a problem at the server end, TB believes that
    >> the password has been rejected. It responds by prompting your for the
    >> correct password. The only solution is to wait for the server
    >> corrects itself.
    >>
    >> It's a long-standing bug.

    >
    > So you're suggesting that if I look at View Saved Passwords, I will see
    > the password for that account?
    >

    Theoretically true.

    what i have found at this bug report
    (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286628#c7)
    "each protocol (IMAP/POP3/NNTP/SMTP) has to
    handle passwords itself. IMAP and POP3 have been
    fixed to reprompt with the
    previously sent password.."

    As i already told in one of previous post, there
    is a similar bug in case of NNTP protocol but not
    in POP3, SMTP.

    probable reason is something like this :
    "the "forgetting" occurs if the server re-requests
    authentication for ANY reason, such as timeout, or
    after too many connections,
    or after accessing a newsgroup with special
    authentication requirements."
    (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286628#c14
    )

    If you are getting same problem *frequently* in
    case of mail server, please file a bug report at
    (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org)

  15. Re: Losing account password?

    Nir wrote:

    > Christopher Jahn wrote:
    >> Pete Holsberg wrote in
    >> news:mailman.3614.1156802789.4036.support-thunderbird@lists.mozil
    >> la.org:
    >>> Nir wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password
    >>>>>>> of one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do
    >>>>>>> about it?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...red_%28Thunder
    >>>>>> bird%29
    >>>>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>>>> pertinent.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>
    >>>> can you see that password at
    >>>> Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?
    >>> I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >>>
    >>> Suppose it's there. What's the significance?

    >>
    >> Sometimes, when there's a problem at the server end, TB believes that
    >> the password has been rejected. It responds by prompting your for the
    >> correct password. The only solution is to wait for the server
    >> corrects itself.
    >>
    >> It's a long-standing bug.
    >>

    > atleast it is not true for POP3 or IMAP protocol . there was a similar
    > NNTP server related issue which has been fixed for 1.5.0.7
    > see this bug report : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286628


    The account in question _is_ an IMAP account! And there's
    _nothing_ stored for it in the place that stores passwords!!!

    --
    Pete Holsberg
    Columbus, NJ

    Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important
    part of every person's life, freedom of religion affects every
    individual. State churches that use government power to support
    themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths
    undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the
    church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and
    leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the "wall of
    separation between church and state," therefore, is absolutely
    essential in a free society...
    --Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826), speech, 1808


  16. Re: Losing account password?

    Pete Holsberg wrote:
    > Nir wrote:
    >
    >> Christopher Jahn wrote:
    >>> Pete Holsberg wrote in
    >>> news:mailman.3614.1156802789.4036.support-thunderbird@lists.mozil
    >>> la.org:
    >>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password
    >>>>>>>> of one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do
    >>>>>>>> about it?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>>>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...red_%28Thunder
    >>>>>>> bird%29
    >>>>>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>>>>> pertinent.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> can you see that password at
    >>>>> Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?
    >>>> I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >>>>
    >>>> Suppose it's there. What's the significance?
    >>>
    >>> Sometimes, when there's a problem at the server end, TB believes that
    >>> the password has been rejected. It responds by prompting your for
    >>> the correct password. The only solution is to wait for the server
    >>> corrects itself.
    >>>
    >>> It's a long-standing bug.

    >> atleast it is not true for POP3 or IMAP protocol . there was a
    >> similar NNTP server related issue which has been fixed for 1.5.0.7
    >> see this bug report : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286628

    >
    > The account in question _is_ an IMAP account! And there's _nothing_
    > stored for it in the place that stores passwords!!!
    >


    are you asked for password when your try to check
    mail in that IMAP account?

  17. Re: Losing account password?

    Nir wrote:

    > Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >> Nir wrote:
    >>
    >>> Christopher Jahn wrote:
    >>>> Pete Holsberg wrote in
    >>>> news:mailman.3614.1156802789.4036.support-thunderbird@lists.mozil
    >>>> la.org:
    >>>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password
    >>>>>>>>> of one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do
    >>>>>>>>> about it?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>>>>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...red_%28Thunder
    >>>>>>>> bird%29
    >>>>>>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>>>>>> pertinent.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> can you see that password at
    >>>>>> Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?
    >>>>> I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Suppose it's there. What's the significance?
    >>>>
    >>>> Sometimes, when there's a problem at the server end, TB believes
    >>>> that the password has been rejected. It responds by prompting your
    >>>> for the correct password. The only solution is to wait for the
    >>>> server corrects itself.
    >>>>
    >>>> It's a long-standing bug.
    >>> atleast it is not true for POP3 or IMAP protocol . there was a
    >>> similar NNTP server related issue which has been fixed for 1.5.0.7
    >>> see this bug report :
    >>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286628

    >>
    >> The account in question _is_ an IMAP account! And there's _nothing_
    >> stored for it in the place that stores passwords!!!
    >>

    >
    > are you asked for password when your try to check mail in that IMAP
    > account?


    With TB? Yes. That's how this thread got started.

    --
    Pete Holsberg
    Columbus, NJ

    "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish..."
    -- Euripides


  18. Re: Losing account password?

    Pete Holsberg wrote:
    > Nir wrote:
    >
    >> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>> Nir wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Christopher Jahn wrote:
    >>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote in
    >>>>> news:mailman.3614.1156802789.4036.support-thunderbird@lists.mozil
    >>>>> la.org:
    >>>>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Nir wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Pete Holsberg wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> From time to time, password manager forgets the password
    >>>>>>>>>> of one of my accounts. What causes this? What can I do
    >>>>>>>>>> about it?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> this link may be helpful :
    >>>>>>>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_n...red_%28Thunder
    >>>>>>>>> bird%29
    >>>>>>>> Was not using Yahoo/Verizon and the other didn't seem to be
    >>>>>>>> pertinent.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> can you see that password at
    >>>>>>> Tools>options>Privacy>Passowrd>View saved password?
    >>>>>> I'll look the next time it gets lost.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Suppose it's there. What's the significance?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Sometimes, when there's a problem at the server end, TB believes
    >>>>> that the password has been rejected. It responds by prompting your
    >>>>> for the correct password. The only solution is to wait for the
    >>>>> server corrects itself.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It's a long-standing bug.
    >>>> atleast it is not true for POP3 or IMAP protocol . there was a
    >>>> similar NNTP server related issue which has been fixed for 1.5.0.7
    >>>> see this bug report :
    >>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286628
    >>>
    >>> The account in question _is_ an IMAP account! And there's _nothing_
    >>> stored for it in the place that stores passwords!!!
    >>>

    >>
    >> are you asked for password when your try to check mail in that IMAP
    >> account?

    >
    > With TB? Yes. That's how this thread got started.
    >

    file a bug report at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org
    also you can reopen this bug :
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219433

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