Ability to delete news item headers - Mozilla

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  1. Ability to delete news item headers

    I'm using Thunderbird 1.5. I wish that T-bird would allow you to delete
    a news item header. I know you can't delete the message itself (it's
    stored on the server). And I know that I can only "cancel my own
    posts", but I'm not trying to cancel the post, just remove the reference
    to it from my local system. And I know I can set the view to only
    display unread items, but that's not what I need. I want the item to be
    expunged from my computer. I don't want it ever to be able to be
    displayed, which means I don't want it stored in any file. This is a
    work environment, and they routinely scan files on our machines, and I
    don't want malicious/obscene/whatever stuff to remain on my PC. When I
    used Free Agent as my news reader, simply pressing Delete would delete
    the item. I don't see why T-Bird couldn't be made to allow this.

  2. Re: Ability to delete news item headers

    RAV wrote:
    > I'm using Thunderbird 1.5. I wish that T-bird would allow you to delete
    > a news item header. I know you can't delete the message itself (it's
    > stored on the server). And I know that I can only "cancel my own
    > posts", but I'm not trying to cancel the post, just remove the reference
    > to it from my local system. And I know I can set the view to only
    > display unread items, but that's not what I need. I want the item to be
    > expunged from my computer. I don't want it ever to be able to be
    > displayed, which means I don't want it stored in any file. This is a
    > work environment, and they routinely scan files on our machines, and I
    > don't want malicious/obscene/whatever stuff to remain on my PC. When I
    > used Free Agent as my news reader, simply pressing Delete would delete
    > the item. I don't see why T-Bird couldn't be made to allow this.


    IIRC, Free Agent deletes the unwanted message(s) from view but not from
    the local file. In TB, you can do the same by hitting the "K" keyboard
    key (Message -> Ignore Thread) but you have to have View -> Threads ->
    Ignored Threads unchecked. But like Free Agent, the message is not
    deleted locally.

    --
    Jordan

  3. Re: Ability to delete news item headers

    Jordan wrote:
    > RAV wrote:
    >> I'm using Thunderbird 1.5. I wish that T-bird would allow you to
    >> delete a news item header. I know you can't delete the message itself
    >> (it's stored on the server). And I know that I can only "cancel my
    >> own posts", but I'm not trying to cancel the post, just remove the
    >> reference to it from my local system. And I know I can set the view
    >> to only display unread items, but that's not what I need. I want the
    >> item to be expunged from my computer. I don't want it ever to be able
    >> to be displayed, which means I don't want it stored in any file. This
    >> is a work environment, and they routinely scan files on our machines,
    >> and I don't want malicious/obscene/whatever stuff to remain on my PC.
    >> When I used Free Agent as my news reader, simply pressing Delete would
    >> delete the item. I don't see why T-Bird couldn't be made to allow this.

    >
    > IIRC, Free Agent deletes the unwanted message(s) from view but not from
    > the local file. In TB, you can do the same by hitting the "K" keyboard
    > key (Message -> Ignore Thread) but you have to have View -> Threads ->
    > Ignored Threads unchecked. But like Free Agent, the message is not
    > deleted locally.
    >


    I appreciate your response, and perhaps you're correct that Free Agent
    never actually deleted the header from the local file (though at least
    it removed it from view). As to your suggestion, doesn't "Ignore
    Thread" mean to ignore the WHOLE thread, meaning ALL messages within
    that thread? If that's the case, that wouldn't do, since (most of the
    time) most of the messages within the thread are fine, it's just a few
    that rate being done away with. And I would want to see NEW messages
    that come in for that thread, which I assume I wouldn't get to see if I
    did "Ignore Thread."

  4. Re: Ability to delete news item headers

    RAV wrote:
    > Jordan wrote:
    >
    >> RAV wrote:
    >>
    >>> I'm using Thunderbird 1.5. I wish that T-bird would allow you to
    >>> delete a news item header. I know you can't delete the message
    >>> itself (it's stored on the server). And I know that I can only
    >>> "cancel my own posts", but I'm not trying to cancel the post, just
    >>> remove the reference to it from my local system. And I know I can
    >>> set the view to only display unread items, but that's not what I
    >>> need. I want the item to be expunged from my computer. I don't want
    >>> it ever to be able to be displayed, which means I don't want it
    >>> stored in any file. This is a work environment, and they routinely
    >>> scan files on our machines, and I don't want
    >>> malicious/obscene/whatever stuff to remain on my PC. When I used
    >>> Free Agent as my news reader, simply pressing Delete would delete the
    >>> item. I don't see why T-Bird couldn't be made to allow this.

    >>
    >>
    >> IIRC, Free Agent deletes the unwanted message(s) from view but not
    >> from the local file. In TB, you can do the same by hitting the "K"
    >> keyboard key (Message -> Ignore Thread) but you have to have View ->
    >> Threads -> Ignored Threads unchecked. But like Free Agent, the message
    >> is not deleted locally.
    >>

    >
    > I appreciate your response, and perhaps you're correct that Free Agent
    > never actually deleted the header from the local file (though at least
    > it removed it from view). As to your suggestion, doesn't "Ignore
    > Thread" mean to ignore the WHOLE thread, meaning ALL messages within
    > that thread? If that's the case, that wouldn't do, since (most of the
    > time) most of the messages within the thread are fine, it's just a few
    > that rate being done away with. And I would want to see NEW messages
    > that come in for that thread, which I assume I wouldn't get to see if I
    > did "Ignore Thread."


    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311642

    I think this bug tells at least part of the story.

    The TB naming for these things is confusing, and IMHO there's room for
    improving these features.

    BR,
    Gudmund

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