Jay Garcia wrote:
> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>
> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>
> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>
> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)
>

Since anyone can post by NNTP on these newsgroups, which are only
moderated /a posteriori/, there is not much one can do about spam: once
we have downloaded a spam header, even canceling that post won't remove
its subject from our list of newsgroup posts.

Best regards,
Tony.
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*-* On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:46:09 -0500,
*-* In Article 7vmdnQSLtZthW3TanZ2dnUVZ_ruqnZ2d@mozilla.org,
*-* Jay Garcia wrote
*-* About And The Spam Continues Unabated

> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:

> gabi40030@googlemail.com

Also susi400??@googlemail.com

> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.

> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)

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Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>>
>> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>>
>> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>>
>> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)
>>
>
> Since anyone can post by NNTP on these newsgroups, which are only
> moderated /a posteriori/, there is not much one can do about spam: once
> we have downloaded a spam header, even canceling that post won't remove
> its subject from our list of newsgroup posts.

One more time: filter GG posts. I see *no* spam from this server.

One rule. No spam.

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On 3/25/2008 8:56 PM, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>>
>> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>>
>> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>>
>> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)
>>
>
> Since anyone can post by NNTP on these newsgroups, which are only
> moderated /a posteriori/, there is not much one can do about spam: once
> we have downloaded a spam header, even canceling that post won't remove
> its subject from our list of newsgroup posts.
>
> Best regards,
> Tony.

As Blinky has pointed out many times, the best bet is to use an external
filtering program to drop all messages from googlegroups.com. The cost
in legitimate messages that are dropped is very small.

I have been using NewsProxy v1.2.4 for about a week and have seen no
spam. Messages from non spammers usually show up as quoted material in
other postings.

NewsProxy http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2977350-2.php
click on link in middle of page.
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On 3/25/2008 8:07 PM Ken Whiton scribbled:


>
>> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>
> Also susi400??@googlemail.com
>
>> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>

are you talking of the numbers morphing?
funny, highwinds may be doing some blocking - I saw those addresses bout
2 weeks ago over in FF or TB and filtered them. Haven't any since I had
s*40011 and g*40007...

On 25.03.2008 22:56, Tony Mechelynck wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>>
>> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>>
>> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>>
>> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)
>>
>
> Since anyone can post by NNTP on these newsgroups, which are only
> moderated /a posteriori/, there is not much one can do about spam: once
> we have downloaded a spam header, even canceling that post won't remove
> its subject from our list of newsgroup posts.
>
> Best regards,
> Tony.

Anyone running a private server (dedicated NNTP) and feeds from usenet
or any other source can filter any incoming messages. Trick is you have
to log into THIS server to benefit from the filter(s).

--
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Irwin Greenwald wrote:
>
> On 3/25/2008 8:56 PM, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>>>
>>> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>>>
>>> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>>>
>>> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Since anyone can post by NNTP on these newsgroups, which are only
>> moderated /a posteriori/, there is not much one can do about spam:
>> once we have downloaded a spam header, even canceling that post won't
>> remove its subject from our list of newsgroup posts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tony.
>
> As Blinky has pointed out many times, the best bet is to use an external
> filtering program to drop all messages from googlegroups.com. The cost
> in legitimate messages that are dropped is very small.
>
> I have been using NewsProxy v1.2.4 for about a week and have seen no
> spam. Messages from non spammers usually show up as quoted material in
> other postings.
>
> NewsProxy http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2977350-2.php
> click on link in middle of page.

I see the point, but I am loathe to do it. These are the very people
who are most in need of our help.

Lee

Leonidas Jones wrote:
> Irwin Greenwald wrote:
>> On 3/25/2008 8:56 PM, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>>>>
>>>> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>>>>
>>>> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>>>>
>>>> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)
>>>>
>>> Since anyone can post by NNTP on these newsgroups, which are only
>>> moderated /a posteriori/, there is not much one can do about spam:
>>> once we have downloaded a spam header, even canceling that post won't
>>> remove its subject from our list of newsgroup posts.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Tony.
>> As Blinky has pointed out many times, the best bet is to use an external
>> filtering program to drop all messages from googlegroups.com. The cost
>> in legitimate messages that are dropped is very small.
>>
>> I have been using NewsProxy v1.2.4 for about a week and have seen no
>> spam. Messages from non spammers usually show up as quoted material in
>> other postings.
>>
>> NewsProxy http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2977350-2.php
>> click on link in middle of page.
>
> I see the point, but I am loathe to do it. These are the very people
> who are most in need of our help.
>
> Lee

correct, as a lot of them are posting using FF and not using
an email/news program.

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Irwin Greenwald wrote:
> On 3/25/2008 8:56 PM, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>>>
>>> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>>>
>>> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>>>
>>> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)
>>>
>> Since anyone can post by NNTP on these newsgroups, which are only
>> moderated /a posteriori/, there is not much one can do about spam: once
>> we have downloaded a spam header, even canceling that post won't remove
>> its subject from our list of newsgroup posts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tony.
>
> As Blinky has pointed out many times, the best bet is to use an external
> filtering program to drop all messages from googlegroups.com. The cost
> in legitimate messages that are dropped is very small.

And I really *do* hate to keep repeating myself, but people keep saying
there's nothing that can be done when that's just plain false.

> I have been using NewsProxy v1.2.4 for about a week and have seen no
> spam. Messages from non spammers usually show up as quoted material in
> other postings.

instead of just running about muttering about the sky falling>

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On Mar 26, 12:15*am, Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> > Jay Garcia wrote:
> >> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>
> >> gabi40...@googlemail.com
>
> >> " deny ga...@googlemail.com " and that's about it.
>
> >> Yoo hooo, anybody minding the store? ;-)
>
> > Since anyone can post by NNTP on these newsgroups, which are only
> > moderated /a posteriori/, there is not much one can do about spam: once
> > we have downloaded a spam header, even canceling that post won't remove
> > its subject from our list of newsgroup posts.
>
> One more time: filter GG posts. *I see *no* spam from this server.
>
> One rule. *No spam.
>
> --
> Blinky
> Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:http://improve-usenet.org

How can you not see the spam that the rest of us are subject to? I
envy you. Tell us how exactly you manage to filter it out. I wish I
knew how.

There really should be a moderator in charge of this. I'm sure it
takes up a lot of expensive bandwith and so forth. It also makes me
dread reading the posts knowing I have to wade through it all.

"Do away with the spammers please!!!" :-(

Jay Garcia wrote:

> Seems like a simple method to deny this spammer:
>
> gabi40030@googlemail.com
>
> " deny gabi*@googlemail.com " and that's about it.



To sum up the bug so far:

Posts made via Google are now sent to the mailing lists, so they can be
moderated -- this should prevent the spam from getting through.

This was done by making Google's copies of the groups moderated,
with the moderation addresses the same as for the mailing lists. An
unfortunate side effect is that Google is no longer archiving posts
made via Giganews, because they lack the proper "approved" headers.
In Dave's comment #11, he says he's opened a ticket with Giga to see
what the best solution to that problem is.

On 3/28/08 12:35 PM, _Patty_ spoke thusly:
> There really should be a moderator in charge of this. I'm sure it
> takes up a lot of expensive bandwith and so forth. It also makes me
> dread reading the posts knowing I have to wade through it all.
>
> "Do away with the spammers please!!!" :-(

Right now, no-one should be seeing spam in mozilla.support.firefox,
mozilla.support.thunderbird, or mozilla.support.seamonkey, since early
March 27 EST. We've got posts coming via Google going through the
mailing list moderation system; however it is currently causing a
problem with the groups being archived.

So, it's still being worked on. But for now, spam in those groups is
being blocked.
--
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»Q« wrote:
> Posts made via Google are now sent to the mailing lists, so they can be
> moderated

I would consider that discrimination.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> »Q« wrote:
>> Posts made via Google are now sent to the mailing lists, so they can be
>> moderated
>
> I would consider that discrimination.
>

never mind. Precedence has already been set by the Mozilla
Bully and his gang

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On or about 3/28/2008 1:11 PM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo penned the
following:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> »Q« wrote:
>>> Posts made via Google are now sent to the mailing lists, so they can be
>>> moderated
>>
>> I would consider that discrimination.
>>
>
> never mind. Precedence has already been set by the Mozilla Bully and
> his gang
>
If it keeps the spam out - go for it!

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> »Q« wrote:
>> Posts made via Google are now sent to the mailing lists, so they can be
>> moderated
>
> I would consider that discrimination.

I don't let just anyone in my home. That's discrimination, too. Tough
titty.

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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> »Q« wrote:
>>> Posts made via Google are now sent to the mailing lists, so they can be
>>> moderated
>> I would consider that discrimination.
>
> I don't let just anyone in my home. That's discrimination, too. Tough
> titty.
>

Sorry, but there's no comparison. What you do and whats
being done here are two different things.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> »Q« wrote:
>>>> Posts made via Google are now sent to the mailing lists, so they can be
>>>> moderated
>>> I would consider that discrimination.
>> I don't let just anyone in my home. That's discrimination, too. Tough
>> titty.
>>
>
> Sorry, but there's no comparison.

Yes, there is.

> What you do and whats being done here are two different things.

No, not completely different.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> »Q« wrote:
>> Posts made via Google are now sent to the mailing lists, so they can be
>> moderated
>
> I would consider that discrimination.
>

I see it as a temporary workaround, until a permanent solution can be made.

Lee