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  1. Spam !!

    Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    Who's minding this store anyways ??

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  2. Re: Spam !!

    Jay Garcia wrote:
    > Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    > with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    > Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >


    I wonder. Seems to be hitting the SeaMonkey group particularly.

    Lee

  3. Re: Spam !!

    On 3/13/2008 8:33 PM, Jay Garcia wrote:
    > Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    > with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    > Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >
    >

    Not me O:-) But I've also wondered why it isn't being caught early.

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  4. Re: Spam !!

    Irwin Greenwald wrote:
    > On 3/13/2008 8:33 PM, Jay Garcia wrote:
    >> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >> Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >>
    >>

    > Not me O:-) But I've also wondered why it isn't being caught early.
    >


    I've now tried forwarding to abuse@mozilla.org. Maybe that will help.

    Lee

  5. Re: Spam !!

    Jay Garcia wrote:

    > Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    > with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    > Who's minding this store anyways ??


    The ones I've seen have been posted through Google. Forward their
    headers to the abuse addresses for Google and for mozilla.org.

  6. Re: Spam !!

    Jay Garcia wrote:
    > Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    > with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    > Who's minding this store anyways ??


    I am...but my Google Groups filtering can't reach out to the remote
    servers.

    Seriously, though -- I haven't seen a single spam in the groups I do
    here; is it happening in all of the groups on the server?


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  7. Re: Spam !!

    *-* On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:32:08 -0500,
    *-* In Article 20080313233208.1023bd5b@bellgrove.remarqs.net,
    *-* Q wrote
    *-* About Re: Spam !!

    > Jay Garcia wrote:


    >> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being
    >> inundated with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in
    >> unencumbered. Who's minding this store anyways ??


    > The ones I've seen have been posted through Google. Forward their
    > headers to the abuse addresses for Google and for mozilla.org.


    I do a Whois lookup and send them to the poster's ISP too. The
    ones I saw in the TB group earlier tonight all came from:
    118.175.129.141, which belongs to

    netname: totnet
    descr: TOT Public Company Limited Bangkok

    with reports going to

    mail_abuse@tot.co.th

    Incidentally, is it generally sufficient to send just the
    headers? I normally send the complete post, headers and body.

    Ken Whiton

    FIDO: 1:132/152
    InterNet: kenwhiton@surfglobal.net.INVAL (remove the obvious to reply)

  8. Re: Spam !!

    Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    > Blinky the Shark wrote:
    >> Jay Garcia wrote:
    >>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >>> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >>> Who's minding this store anyways ??

    >> I am...but my Google Groups filtering can't reach out to the remote
    >> servers.
    >>
    >> Seriously, though -- I haven't seen a single spam in the groups I do
    >> here; is it happening in all of the groups on the server?

    >
    > then you're not in the right groups. So far in the SM
    > support and dev groups.


    I saw Jay open the thread talking about "a lot of the support groups".
    (That's still up there.) I figured mozilla.support.firefox and
    mozilla.support.thunderbird were "support groups". Silly me. Now you
    say "SM support and dev groups". (That's still up there.) I didn't know
    support groups were dev groups. Or that SM support was "a lot of the
    support groups" like Jay's original comment addressed.


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  9. Re: Spam !!

    Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    >> Blinky the Shark wrote:
    >>> Jay Garcia wrote:
    >>>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >>>> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >>>> Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >>> I am...but my Google Groups filtering can't reach out to the remote
    >>> servers.
    >>>
    >>> Seriously, though -- I haven't seen a single spam in the groups I do
    >>> here; is it happening in all of the groups on the server?

    >> then you're not in the right groups. So far in the SM
    >> support and dev groups.
    >>

    >
    > oh, spoke too soon, there they are in the TB and FF


    Yes, you certainly did.


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  10. Re: Spam !!

    On 14.03.2008 04:33, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Jay Garcia to
    generate the following:? :
    > Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    > with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    > Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >
    >


    see "somebody's" sigline for info on just *WHO* is list owner etc.....

    If I remember correctly, I have often complained here that that bozo
    doesn't do his job... he pops in every 10 days or so, banns a couple of
    posters (or threatens to bann them) and then goes back to his canadian
    backwoods!

    reg
    reg

  11. Re: Spam !!

    Ken Whiton wrote:
    > *-* On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:32:08 -0500,
    > *-* In Article 20080313233208.1023bd5b@bellgrove.remarqs.net,
    > *-* Q wrote
    > *-* About Re: Spam !!
    >
    >> Jay Garcia wrote:

    >
    >>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being
    >>> inundated with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in
    >>> unencumbered. Who's minding this store anyways ??

    >
    >> The ones I've seen have been posted through Google. Forward their
    >> headers to the abuse addresses for Google and for mozilla.org.

    >
    > I do a Whois lookup and send them to the poster's ISP too. The
    > ones I saw in the TB group earlier tonight all came from:
    > 118.175.129.141, which belongs to
    >
    > netname: totnet
    > descr: TOT Public Company Limited Bangkok
    >
    > with reports going to
    >
    > mail_abuse@tot.co.th
    >
    > Incidentally, is it generally sufficient to send just the
    > headers? I normally send the complete post, headers and body.


    For virus included detection information in the header such as:
    X-pstnvirus: W32/Zhelatin.gen!eml
    I simply send the header only.

    For Spam I would send the header and complete mail, although if lengthy
    I would trim somewhat, keep the original (for a reasonable time) and
    inform them of this and ask if they would like the complete version. If
    I receive no acknowledgment at all, after say a week, then I would
    resend the whole thing every time.

    This method has served me well for years.

    --
    Gus


  12. Re: Spam !!

    Blinky the Shark wrote:
    > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    >> Blinky the Shark wrote:
    >>> Jay Garcia wrote:
    >>>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >>>> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >>>> Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >>> I am...but my Google Groups filtering can't reach out to the remote
    >>> servers.
    >>>
    >>> Seriously, though -- I haven't seen a single spam in the groups I do
    >>> here; is it happening in all of the groups on the server?

    >>
    >> then you're not in the right groups. So far in the SM support *and* dev
    >> groups.

    >
    > I saw Jay open the thread talking about "a lot of the support groups".
    > (That's still up there.) I figured mozilla.support.firefox and
    > mozilla.support.thunderbird were "support groups". Silly me.


    Not silly you at all. You were right, m.s.... indicates "support" group.

    > Now you
    > say "SM support and dev groups". (That's still up there.) I didn't know
    > support groups were dev groups.


    They're not - m.d.... indicates "developer" group.

    > Or that SM support was "a lot of the
    > support groups" like Jay's original comment addressed.


    He did no such thing. Peter the Hippo did and as bolded above he said
    *and* and did not say that it *was*. This time it is "silly you".

    --
    Gus

  13. Re: Spam !!

    On 13.03.2008 23:32, Q wrote:

    --- Original Message ---

    > Jay Garcia wrote:
    >
    >> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >> Who's minding this store anyways ??

    >
    > The ones I've seen have been posted through Google. Forward their
    > headers to the abuse addresses for Google and for mozilla.org.


    Been there did that.

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    Jay Garcia Netscape Champion
    UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

  14. Re: Spam !!

    On 14.03.2008 00:43, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

    --- Original Message ---

    > Blinky the Shark wrote:
    >> Jay Garcia wrote:
    >>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >>> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >>> Who's minding this store anyways ??

    >>
    >> I am...but my Google Groups filtering can't reach out to the remote
    >> servers.
    >>
    >> Seriously, though -- I haven't seen a single spam in the groups I do
    >> here; is it happening in all of the groups on the server?

    >
    > then you're not in the right groups. So far in the SM
    > support and dev groups.
    >


    TB group is getting it's immense share as well.


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    Jay Garcia Netscape Champion
    UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

  15. Re: Spam !!

    On 14.03.2008 02:07, Blinky the Shark wrote:

    --- Original Message ---

    > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    >> Blinky the Shark wrote:
    >>> Jay Garcia wrote:
    >>>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >>>> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >>>> Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >>> I am...but my Google Groups filtering can't reach out to the remote
    >>> servers.
    >>>
    >>> Seriously, though -- I haven't seen a single spam in the groups I do
    >>> here; is it happening in all of the groups on the server?

    >>
    >> then you're not in the right groups. So far in the SM
    >> support and dev groups.

    >
    > I saw Jay open the thread talking about "a lot of the support groups".
    > (That's still up there.) I figured mozilla.support.firefox and
    > mozilla.support.thunderbird were "support groups". Silly me. Now you
    > say "SM support and dev groups". (That's still up there.) I didn't know
    > support groups were dev groups. Or that SM support was "a lot of the
    > support groups" like Jay's original comment addressed.
    >
    >


    ..dev.* groups are differentiated from the .support.* groups, not the same.

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    UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

  16. Re: Spam !!

    On 14.03.2008 09:01, Gus Richter wrote:

    --- Original Message ---

    > Ken Whiton wrote:
    >> *-* On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:32:08 -0500,
    >> *-* In Article 20080313233208.1023bd5b@bellgrove.remarqs.net,
    >> *-* Q wrote
    >> *-* About Re: Spam !!
    >>
    >>> Jay Garcia wrote:

    >>
    >>>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being
    >>>> inundated with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in
    >>>> unencumbered. Who's minding this store anyways ??

    >>
    >>> The ones I've seen have been posted through Google. Forward their
    >>> headers to the abuse addresses for Google and for mozilla.org.

    >>
    >> I do a Whois lookup and send them to the poster's ISP too. The
    >> ones I saw in the TB group earlier tonight all came from:
    >> 118.175.129.141, which belongs to
    >>
    >> netname: totnet
    >> descr: TOT Public Company Limited Bangkok
    >>
    >> with reports going to
    >>
    >> mail_abuse@tot.co.th
    >>
    >> Incidentally, is it generally sufficient to send just the
    >> headers? I normally send the complete post, headers and body.

    >
    > For virus included detection information in the header such as:
    > X-pstnvirus: W32/Zhelatin.gen!eml
    > I simply send the header only.
    >
    > For Spam I would send the header and complete mail, although if lengthy
    > I would trim somewhat, keep the original (for a reasonable time) and
    > inform them of this and ask if they would like the complete version. If
    > I receive no acknowledgment at all, after say a week, then I would
    > resend the whole thing every time.
    >
    > This method has served me well for years.
    >


    I follow the convention used by SpamCop and that is to send the entire
    message, header - body and all. The body is sent because it usually
    contains links and the host server of those links may be interested in
    what is coming out of their domain and "may" take appropriate action.


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    Jay Garcia Netscape Champion
    UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

  17. Re: Spam !!

    Leonidas Jones wrote:
    > Irwin Greenwald wrote:
    >> On 3/13/2008 8:33 PM, Jay Garcia wrote:
    >>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >>> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >>> Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Not me O:-) But I've also wondered why it isn't being caught early.
    >>

    >
    > I've now tried forwarding to abuse@mozilla.org. Maybe that will help.
    >
    > Lee


    Google Groups is notorious for ignoring abuse complaints. Its support
    desk is thought to be manned by Dave Null. Do no hold your breath.

    There is a glimmer of hope here. These groups are hosted by GigaNews
    and GN has just acquired SuperNews, which has legendary spam/flood
    filtering. If they do more than just acquire the name and assimilate
    users, perhaps the filtering will improve.

    I really don't know what the administrative relationship is between
    GN & Mozilla.org staff as far as operation of news.mozilla.org...

    --
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    SeaMonkey - Surfing the net has never been so suite!

  18. Re: Spam !!

    The date and time was 3/13/2008 8:33 PM, and on a whim, Jay Garcia
    pounded out on the keyboard:

    > Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    > with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    > Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >


    Yeah, we have to live with that crap, and a little group can't do
    posting in MTMM. Go figure.

    --
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    Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

  19. Re: Spam !!

    Jay Garcia wrote:
    > Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    > with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    > Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >

    We didn't have the Crxx on secnews servers at Netscape. perhaps we need
    to get off of Giga news, and use strictly secure servers.

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  20. Re: Spam !!

    Leonidas Jones wrote:
    > Irwin Greenwald wrote:
    >> On 3/13/2008 8:33 PM, Jay Garcia wrote:
    >>> Seems like a lot of the support groups are literally being inundated
    >>> with porno spam lately and they just continue to come in unencumbered.
    >>> Who's minding this store anyways ??
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Not me O:-) But I've also wondered why it isn't being caught early.
    >>

    >
    > I've now tried forwarding to abuse@mozilla.org. Maybe that will help.
    >
    > Lee

    Wonder if its scheme by Chris I to let it over run the groups to make
    support useless?

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