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  1. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    So when is next sitting for the bug removal.....man i am freaky abt sea
    monkey

    On 4/24/08, support-seamonkey-request@lists.mozilla.org <
    support-seamonkey-request@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:
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    > Today's Topics:
    >
    > 1. Re: Print subject line (Daniel)
    > 2. Re: 2 questions (Gus Richter)
    > 3. Re: new bug in my profile (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
    > 4. Re: Back Button greyed out (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
    > 5. Re: plugin (Daniel)
    > 6. Re: plugin (Barry Edwin Gilmour)
    > 7. Re: 2 questions (Ed Mullen)
    > 8. Re: plugin (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
    > 9. Re: plugin (Roger Fink)
    > 10. Re: plugin (Roger Fink)
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 1
    > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:09:00 +1000
    > From: Daniel
    > Subject: Re: Print subject line
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID:
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    >
    > Ray_Net wrote:
    > > Daniel wrote:
    > >> Smiles wrote:
    > >>> Good day
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> I have a client with three folders in mail with over 500 emails in

    > each.
    > >>>
    > >>> Is the a way to extract and print the subject line so he can sort
    > >>> them on paper?
    > >>>
    > >>> Thank You
    > >>> Smiles
    > >>
    > >> Why does your client need to sort the subjects on paper? Couldn't he
    > >> just select the folder and then select the column he wants to index
    > >> by, e.g. Subject, Header, Date, etc.?
    > >>
    > >> Then, if need be, print the sorted list, somehow!
    > >>

    > >
    > > Did you know how to print the sorted list ?

    >
    > Not me, that why I typed "print the sorted list, somehow!".
    >
    > Daniel
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 2
    > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:16:30 -0400
    > From: Gus Richter
    > Subject: Re: 2 questions
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID:
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    >
    > Ed Mullen wrote:
    > > Gus Richter wrote:
    > >> Ed Mullen wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>> > >>>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
    > >>>
    > >>> Good advice!
    > >>
    > >> Thanks but just run-of-the-mill.
    > >>
    > >> Your http://edmullen.net does not validate.
    > >> You have two nesting problems.
    > >>
    > >> No criticism intended. Just an advisory.
    > >>

    > >
    > > Thanks, Gus. All fixed up.

    >
    > I know that there was a discussion regarding Cursor on CIWAS.
    > It does not seem to have been too helpful. I was not too interested.
    > Now I see that your site no longer validates for CSS.
    > (html validates - good.)
    >
    > Here is what Jigsaw reports regarding the two Errors:
    > 38 .help Value Error : cursor Too many values or values are not
    > recognized : help,auto
    > 42 a Value Error : cursor Too many values or values are not
    > recognized : pointer,auto
    >
    > Which are in your stylesheet:
    > .help {
    > cursor: help, auto;
    > }
    >
    > a {
    > cursor: pointer, auto;
    > background-repeat: no-repeat;
    > text-decoration: none;
    > }
    >
    > In both instances you are using two generic values in what I believe is
    > your intention for fallback.
    >
    > Have a good look at:
    >
    > and you will see under "Value:" that you can have either;
    > 1. The value as "inherit"
    > OR
    > 2. multiple entries of _may occur_ AND one of the 17 generic
    > values _must occur one time only_.
    >
    > If all of the values are not supported, then the generic value
    > will be the fallback.
    > There is nothing said about what should happen if a browser does not
    > support a given generic value - presumably it will remain at the initial
    > value 'auto'.
    >
    > So we can see what Jigsaw is complaining about. Your stylesheet segment
    > should be:
    > .help {
    > cursor: help;
    > }
    >
    > a {
    > cursor: pointer;
    > background-repeat: no-repeat;
    > text-decoration: none;
    > }
    >
    > --
    > Gus
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 3
    > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:32:35 -0700
    > From: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
    >
    > Subject: Re: new bug in my profile
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID:
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
    >
    > St?phane Gr?goire wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo a tapot? , le 23.04.2008 22:39:
    > >
    > >> I'm sorry, but whats the bug? You didn't say what the problem is and I
    > >> can't see it in the pic

    > >
    > >
    > > The listbox after "view" is empty.

    >
    > OK, if there's nothing in the click down, then its a known
    > problem. For some reason, some [like me] have something
    > there, while others don't. There was a huge discussion
    > about this a while back, but nobody seem to have solved it.
    > And I don't know if a bug was filed or not, but you can
    > have a look for it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
    >
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    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 4
    > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:34:50 -0700
    > From: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
    >
    > Subject: Re: Back Button greyed out
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID:
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    >
    > Mike C wrote:
    > > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    > >> Gerald Ross wrote:
    > >>> I really don't know what a tab is.
    > >> a tab is similar to opening up another SM browser window, but you do it
    > >> within the same windows. I find it very useful. To set it up, click

    > on
    > >> Edit, Preferences, Navigator, Tabbed Browsing. Now on the top right,
    > >> uncheck Hide Tab Bar. Check Switch to Tabs. Then check the one about
    > >> Middle Clicking. Then select under Link Behavour, you want A New Tab

    > in
    > >> the Current Window, and The Current tab/window. Once done, OK out.
    > >>
    > >> Now, go to a site with lots of links, and either:
    > >>
    > >> -- Hold Down the Shift Key and Click on a link
    > >> -- or Middle Click your mouse button
    > >> -- or click the mouse wheel,
    > >>
    > >> and watch what happens. If everything is set up correctly, then that
    > >> link will be opened in a New tab.
    > >>

    > > Why not just right click on the link and then "Open link in new tab"?
    > > You can then go back to the *TAB* with "the list of results" as often as
    > > you want to.

    >
    > I listed 3 ways of doing it. Of course there are others.
    >
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    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 5
    > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:38:38 +1000
    > From: Daniel
    > Subject: Re: plugin
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID:
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    >
    > Roger Fink wrote:
    > > This page is calling for two plugins:
    > >
    > > http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/...time/93824.htm
    > >
    > > In IE this shows up as embedded Real Video. In SeaMonkey, just two blank
    > > rectangles with get-the-plugin icons. Anyone able to run this?
    > >

    >
    > I just got asked once for the plug-in. Roger, if you go aboutlug-ins,
    > do you have anything listed for Real Video? Maybe you just need to make
    > a link!
    >
    > Thing I found interesting, on the page, is the first picture is by
    > "Anonymous, California", but immediately underneath the paragraph states
    > "In Ottawa, he created this potent image" talking about Szyk!!
    >
    > Daniel
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 6
    > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:10:08 +0800
    > From: Barry Edwin Gilmour
    > Subject: Re: plugin
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID:
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
    >
    > Roger Fink wrote:
    > > This page is calling for two plugins:
    > >
    > > http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/...time/93824.htm
    > >
    > > In IE this shows up as embedded Real Video. In SeaMonkey, just two blank
    > > rectangles with get-the-plugin icons. Anyone able to run this?
    > >

    > runs fine on SM2a1pre/RealPlayer11/Linux. Sorry, cant help with
    > SM/RP11/Windows. Barry.
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 7
    > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:28:54 -0400
    > From: Ed Mullen
    > Subject: Re: 2 questions
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID: <_o6dnW3NwoDIf5LVnZ2dnUVZ_tmhnZ2d@mozilla.org>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    >
    > Gus Richter wrote:
    > > Ed Mullen wrote:
    > >> Gus Richter wrote:
    > >>> Ed Mullen wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> > >>>>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Good advice!
    > >>>
    > >>> Thanks but just run-of-the-mill.
    > >>>
    > >>> Your http://edmullen.net does not validate.
    > >>> You have two nesting problems.
    > >>>
    > >>> No criticism intended. Just an advisory.
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> Thanks, Gus. All fixed up.

    > >
    > > I know that there was a discussion regarding Cursor on CIWAS.
    > > It does not seem to have been too helpful. I was not too interested.
    > > Now I see that your site no longer validates for CSS.
    > > (html validates - good.)
    > >
    > > Here is what Jigsaw reports regarding the two Errors:
    > > 38 .help Value Error : cursor Too many values or values are not
    > > recognized : help,auto
    > > 42 a Value Error : cursor Too many values or values are not
    > > recognized : pointer,auto
    > >
    > > Which are in your stylesheet:
    > > .help {
    > > cursor: help, auto;
    > > }
    > >
    > > a {
    > > cursor: pointer, auto;
    > > background-repeat: no-repeat;
    > > text-decoration: none;
    > > }
    > >
    > > In both instances you are using two generic values in what I believe is
    > > your intention for fallback.
    > >
    > > Have a good look at:
    > >
    > > and you will see under "Value:" that you can have either;
    > > 1. The value as "inherit"
    > > OR
    > > 2. multiple entries of _may occur_ AND one of the 17 generic
    > > values _must occur one time only_.
    > >
    > > If all of the values are not supported, then the generic value
    > > will be the fallback.
    > > There is nothing said about what should happen if a browser does not
    > > support a given generic value - presumably it will remain at the initial
    > > value 'auto'.
    > >
    > > So we can see what Jigsaw is complaining about. Your stylesheet segment
    > > should be:
    > > .help {
    > > cursor: help;
    > > }s
    > >
    > > a {
    > > cursor: pointer;
    > > background-repeat: no-repeat;
    > > text-decoration: none;
    > > }
    > >

    >
    > Well, it caused no problems before in current versions of:
    >
    > SeaMonkey
    > Firefox
    > IE7 (I really don't care about IE6 or less)
    > Safari
    > Opera
    >
    > But, what the hell, it validates now. For what it's worth.
    >
    > Again, thanks for your interest and comments. Always welcome.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Ed Mullen
    > http://edmullen.net
    > What was the best thing before sliced bread?
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 8
    > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:52:18 -0700
    > From: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
    >
    > Subject: Re: plugin
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID:
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    >
    > Daniel wrote:
    > > if you go aboutlug-ins,
    > > do you have anything listed for Real Video?

    >
    > try aboutlugins
    >
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    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 9
    > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:20:37 -0400
    > From: "Roger Fink"
    > Subject: Re: plugin
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID: <--qdnd_kMpKTc5LVnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@mozilla.org>
    >
    > Daniel wrote:
    > > Roger Fink wrote:
    > >> This page is calling for two plugins:
    > >>
    > >> http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/...time/93824.htm
    > >>
    > >> In IE this shows up as embedded Real Video. In SeaMonkey, just two
    > >> blank rectangles with get-the-plugin icons. Anyone able to run this?
    > >>

    > >
    > > I just got asked once for the plug-in. Roger, if you go
    > > aboutlug-ins, do you have anything listed for Real Video? Maybe you
    > > just need to make
    > > a link!
    > >
    > > Thing I found interesting, on the page, is the first picture is by
    > > "Anonymous, California", but immediately underneath the paragraph
    > > states "In Ottawa, he created this potent image" talking about Szyk!!
    > >
    > > Daniel

    >
    > I don't show any Real plugins. I don't think I was very clear about the
    > problem - when I clicked the icons nothing happened, even though the
    > status
    > bar said "Transferring data from plugindoc.mozdev.org". At first I thought
    > adblock plus was the problem, but even after disabling it and reloading,
    > it
    > made no difference.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Message: 10
    > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:25:18 -0400
    > From: "Roger Fink"
    > Subject: Re: plugin
    > To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    > Message-ID:
    >
    >
    >
    > Roger Fink wrote:
    > > Daniel wrote:
    > >> Roger Fink wrote:
    > >>> This page is calling for two plugins:
    > >>>
    > >>> http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/...time/93824.htm
    > >>>
    > >>> In IE this shows up as embedded Real Video. In SeaMonkey, just two
    > >>> blank rectangles with get-the-plugin icons. Anyone able to run this?
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> I just got asked once for the plug-in. Roger, if you go
    > >> aboutlug-ins, do you have anything listed for Real Video? Maybe you
    > >> just need to make
    > >> a link!
    > >>
    > >> Thing I found interesting, on the page, is the first picture is by
    > >> "Anonymous, California", but immediately underneath the paragraph
    > >> states "In Ottawa, he created this potent image" talking about Szyk!!
    > >>
    > >> Daniel

    > >
    > > I don't show any Real plugins. I don't think I was very clear about
    > > the problem - when I clicked the icons nothing happened, even though
    > > the status bar said "Transferring data from plugindoc.mozdev.org". At
    > > first I thought adblock plus was the problem, but even after
    > > disabling it and reloading, it made no difference.

    >
    > Since time immemorial I have never, ever been able to make this plugin
    > retrieval feature work, it's almost like a bad joke. If someone would
    > kindly
    > tell me the name of the file and where I can get it, I'll just plunk it
    > into
    > the folder.
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  2. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    akshay gulati wrote:
    > So when is next sitting for the bug removal.....man i am freaky abt sea
    > monkey
    >
    > On 4/24/08, support-seamonkey-request@lists.mozilla.org <
    > support-seamonkey-request@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:
    >> Send support-seamonkey mailing list submissions to
    >> support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    >>
    >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
    >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
    >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
    >> support-seamonkey-request@lists.mozilla.org
    >>
    >> You can reach the person managing the list at
    >> support-seamonkey-owner@lists.mozilla.org
    >>
    >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
    >> than "Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest..."
    >>
    >>
    >> Today's Topics:
    >>
    >> 1. Re: Print subject line (Daniel)
    >> 2. Re: 2 questions (Gus Richter)
    >> 3. Re: new bug in my profile (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
    >> 4. Re: Back Button greyed out (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
    >> 5. Re: plugin (Daniel)
    >> 6. Re: plugin (Barry Edwin Gilmour)
    >> 7. Re: 2 questions (Ed Mullen)
    >> 8. Re: plugin (Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo)
    >> 9. Re: plugin (Roger Fink)
    >> 10. Re: plugin (Roger Fink)
    >>
    >>


    What's this all about? Just in case you cannot read them from the
    server, akshay's posting them a second time!!

    Daniel

  3. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    On 4/24/08 5:26 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:
    > What's this all about? Just in case you cannot read them from the
    > server, akshay's posting them a second time!!


    Mailing list subscribers have the option of receiving messages in digest
    form, rather than receiving each message individually.

    --
    Chris Ilias
    List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia

  4. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    Chris Ilias wrote:
    > On 4/24/08 5:26 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:
    >> What's this all about? Just in case you cannot read them from the
    >> server, akshay's posting them a second time!!

    >
    > Mailing list subscribers have the option of receiving messages in digest
    > form, rather than receiving each message individually.
    >


    but then, when they want to reply to one of the messages in the digest,
    does that mean they repost everything, like happened here??

    Daniel

  5. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    Daniel wrote:
    > Chris Ilias wrote:
    >> On 4/24/08 5:26 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:
    >>> What's this all about? Just in case you cannot read them from the
    >>> server, akshay's posting them a second time!!

    >> Mailing list subscribers have the option of receiving messages in digest
    >> form, rather than receiving each message individually.
    >>

    >
    > but then, when they want to reply to one of the messages in the digest,
    > does that mean they repost everything, like happened here??
    >
    > Daniel


    no, they should edit out the rest of the crap, so we can see
    what they're replying to. But they don't. They expect you
    to know.

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  6. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    > Daniel wrote:
    >> Chris Ilias wrote:
    >>> On 4/24/08 5:26 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:
    >>>> What's this all about? Just in case you cannot read them from the
    >>>> server, akshay's posting them a second time!!
    >>> Mailing list subscribers have the option of receiving messages in
    >>> digest form, rather than receiving each message individually.
    >>>

    >>
    >> but then, when they want to reply to one of the messages in the
    >> digest, does that mean they repost everything, like happened here??
    >>
    >> Daniel

    >
    > no, they should edit out the rest of the crap, so we can see what
    > they're replying to. But they don't. They expect you to know.
    >


    They expect too much. Or are ignorant. Stupidity is forgivable,
    ignorance isn't.

    --
    Ed Mullen
    http://edmullen.net
    I was simply furnishing a home. I love music ... and I don't think a
    $130,000 indoor-outdoor stereo system is extravagant. - Leona Helmsley

  7. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:19:55 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    > Daniel wrote:
    >> Chris Ilias wrote:
    >>> On 4/24/08 5:26 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:
    >>>> What's this all about? Just in case you cannot read them from the
    >>>> server, akshay's posting them a second time!!
    >>> Mailing list subscribers have the option of receiving messages in digest
    >>> form, rather than receiving each message individually.

    >> but then, when they want to reply to one of the messages in the digest,
    >> does that mean they repost everything, like happened here??

    > no, they should edit out the rest of the crap, so we can see
    > what they're replying to. But they don't. They expect you
    > to know.


    Assuming that the mail digest is sent with the proper mime headers and
    separators, a full featured mail client should be able to "explode" a
    digest out (at least in the view pane) into individual mail messages. If
    I remember correctly, Pegasus Mail had one or two addons that did this.

    So, hmmm, if there isn't already an extension that does this for
    Thunderbird/SeaMonkey, then someone (not me) should write one.

    Phil

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  8. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    Philip Chee wrote:
    > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:19:55 -0700, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
    >> Daniel wrote:
    >>> Chris Ilias wrote:
    >>>> On 4/24/08 5:26 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:
    >>>>> What's this all about? Just in case you cannot read them from the
    >>>>> server, akshay's posting them a second time!!
    >>>> Mailing list subscribers have the option of receiving messages in digest
    >>>> form, rather than receiving each message individually.
    >>> but then, when they want to reply to one of the messages in the digest,
    >>> does that mean they repost everything, like happened here??

    >> no, they should edit out the rest of the crap, so we can see
    >> what they're replying to. But they don't. They expect you
    >> to know.

    >
    > Assuming that the mail digest is sent with the proper mime headers and
    > separators, a full featured mail client should be able to "explode" a
    > digest out (at least in the view pane) into individual mail messages. If
    > I remember correctly, Pegasus Mail had one or two addons that did this.
    >
    > So, hmmm, if there isn't already an extension that does this for
    > Thunderbird/SeaMonkey, then someone (not me) should write one.
    >
    > Phil
    >


    Sorry, Phil, are you suggesting that "a fully featured mail client"
    should produce individual messages when, in this case, akshay downloads
    his digest of messages??

    What would be the difference between this and just downloading the
    messages as I could do, and have done?

    Daniel

  9. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:22:54 +1000, Daniel wrote:

    > Sorry, Phil, are you suggesting that "a fully featured mail client"
    > should produce individual messages when, in this case, akshay downloads
    > his digest of messages??


    No, I'm not, but what would be neat would be to make a mail digest
    message look like a "virtual folder" where you could read individual
    messages and reply to these individually when replying to the list.

    Phil

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  10. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    Daniel wrote:
    > Chris Ilias wrote:
    >> On 4/24/08 5:26 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:
    >>> What's this all about? Just in case you cannot read them from the
    >>> server, akshay's posting them a second time!!

    >>
    >> Mailing list subscribers have the option of receiving messages in digest
    >> form, rather than receiving each message individually.
    >>

    >
    > but then, when they want to reply to one of the messages in the digest,
    > does that mean they repost everything, like happened here??


    Yes, and worse. It means the next digest that's compiled and mailed out
    will have that digest included in its entirety.

    B/

  11. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    On approximately 4/25/2008 6:15 AM, came the following characters from
    the keyboard of Philip Chee:
    > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:22:54 +1000, Daniel wrote:
    >
    >> Sorry, Phil, are you suggesting that "a fully featured mail client"
    >> should produce individual messages when, in this case, akshay downloads
    >> his digest of messages??

    >
    > No, I'm not, but what would be neat would be to make a mail digest
    > message look like a "virtual folder" where you could read individual
    > messages and reply to these individually when replying to the list.
    >
    > Phil



    There is already an email client that does that... nPOPuk
    http://npopsupport.org.uk/

    I think it supports multipart/digest, and maybe one other digest format,
    to allow the user to view and reply to individual messages from the
    digest.

    It would be nice if it also warned (or prevented) replies to the digest;
    of course, the digest sending software could take some responsibility
    too... sending with replies set to
    "bitbucket-mailinglist@mailinglist.com" which would respond with
    information to the replier that replying to messages within a digest is
    confusing, and that instead the individual message should be retrieved
    and replied to, so that threads are unbroken, appropriate context is
    maintained, and inappropriate context is not inadvertantly supplied.


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  12. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    Glenn wrote:
    > On approximately 4/25/2008 6:15 AM, came the following characters from
    > the keyboard of Philip Chee:
    >> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:22:54 +1000, Daniel wrote:
    >>
    >>> Sorry, Phil, are you suggesting that "a fully featured mail client"
    >>> should produce individual messages when, in this case, akshay downloads
    >>> his digest of messages??

    >> No, I'm not, but what would be neat would be to make a mail digest
    >> message look like a "virtual folder" where you could read individual
    >> messages and reply to these individually when replying to the list.

    > There is already an email client that does that... nPOPuk
    > http://npopsupport.org.uk/


    thats all fine and dandy, but it would be nice if SM would
    do it, too. Either the program does it or from an extension.

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  13. Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 28, Issue 69

    On approximately 4/25/2008 10:51 AM, came the following characters from
    the keyboard of Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo:
    > Glenn wrote:
    >> On approximately 4/25/2008 6:15 AM, came the following characters from
    >> the keyboard of Philip Chee:
    >>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:22:54 +1000, Daniel wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Sorry, Phil, are you suggesting that "a fully featured mail client"
    >>>> should produce individual messages when, in this case, akshay
    >>>> downloads his digest of messages??
    >>> No, I'm not, but what would be neat would be to make a mail digest
    >>> message look like a "virtual folder" where you could read individual
    >>> messages and reply to these individually when replying to the list.

    >> There is already an email client that does that... nPOPuk
    >> http://npopsupport.org.uk/

    >
    > thats all fine and dandy, but it would be nice if SM would do it, too.
    > Either the program does it or from an extension.


    Sure, I agree. Just pointing out an existance proof... it can be done,
    and actually, I should further note that the whole binary program for
    nPOPuk, which includes this feature, is about 1MB, compared to
    SeaMonkey's 15MB download size... and if someone is implementing the
    feature for SM, they might want to play with the implementation in
    nPOPuk to make sure that they include at least the same capability.


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