Linux v Windows CSS - Mozilla

This is a discussion on Linux v Windows CSS - Mozilla ; The following is from the Ubuntu users list: ==== Could someone please see if the following pages work right on your installation. http://www.toyota.com/ and http://www.toyota.com/rav4/index.htm..._TN_RAV4_INDEX The flash display appears to be behind something on the first page and the menus ...

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  1. Linux v Windows CSS

    The following is from the Ubuntu users list:

    ====
    Could someone please see if the following pages work right on your
    installation.

    http://www.toyota.com/
    and
    http://www.toyota.com/rav4/index.htm..._TN_RAV4_INDEX

    The flash display appears to be behind something on the first page and
    the menus drop behind the flash display on the second page. They work
    perfect on a winXP installation with Firefox 2.0.0.6.
    ====

    I've checked in both Firefox (linux & windows) and SeaMonkey (linux &
    windows) and can verify the problem - works perfectly in Windows, does
    not on Linux.

    I'm pretty certain that it has something to do with the CSS/style
    sheets. If I turn off styles (in linux) I can actually see the flash in
    the first url (albeit very small), and the menus in url 2 (again very
    small). Can one of you folks with CSS experience take a look & perhaps
    explain why the difference in display in linx v windows?


  2. Re: Linux v Windows CSS

    Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:53:03 -0700, /NoOp/:

    > http://www.toyota.com/
    > and
    > http://www.toyota.com/rav4/index.htm..._TN_RAV4_INDEX
    >
    > The flash display appears to be behind something on the first page and
    > the menus drop behind the flash display on the second page. They work
    > perfect on a winXP installation with Firefox 2.0.0.6.
    > ====
    >
    > I've checked in both Firefox (linux & windows) and SeaMonkey (linux &
    > windows) and can verify the problem - works perfectly in Windows, does
    > not on Linux.


    This is most likely related to the 'wmode' parameter [1]. As far as
    I know it is supported on Linux but surely not on Macs. Don't know
    if it makes difference but which Flash plug-in do you use - the
    Adobe one or the GNU one (GNASH)? Do the drop-down menus at the top
    on the www.adobe.com site get hidden behind the Flash applet beneath
    the menu bar, also?

    [1] ,


    --
    Stanimir

  3. Re: Linux v Windows CSS

    Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

    > This is most likely related to the 'wmode' parameter [1]. As far as
    > I know it is supported on Linux but surely not on Macs. Don't know
    > if it makes difference but which Flash plug-in do you use - the
    > Adobe one or the GNU one (GNASH)? Do the drop-down menus at the top
    > on the www.adobe.com site get hidden behind the Flash applet beneath
    > the menu bar, also?
    >
    > [1] ,
    >


    Thanks for that tidbit of information, Stan. Is there anything we in
    userland can do to alter the wmode so pages will display properly?

    Rinaldi
    --
    Your lucky color has faded.


  4. Re: Linux v Windows CSS

    On 09/17/2007 11:40 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
    > Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:53:03 -0700, /NoOp/:
    >
    >> http://www.toyota.com/
    >> and
    >> http://www.toyota.com/rav4/index.htm..._TN_RAV4_INDEX
    >>
    >> The flash display appears to be behind something on the first page and
    >> the menus drop behind the flash display on the second page. They work
    >> perfect on a winXP installation with Firefox 2.0.0.6.
    >> ====
    >>
    >> I've checked in both Firefox (linux & windows) and SeaMonkey (linux &
    >> windows) and can verify the problem - works perfectly in Windows, does
    >> not on Linux.

    >
    > This is most likely related to the 'wmode' parameter [1]. As far as
    > I know it is supported on Linux but surely not on Macs. Don't know
    > if it makes difference but which Flash plug-in do you use - the
    > Adobe one or the GNU one (GNASH)?


    File name: libflashplayer.so
    Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48

    But come to think of it, I got lazy after some recent updates to Ubuntu
    (7.04 Feisty) and reinstalled from their repository. I'll try it with
    the latest & greatest from the Adobe site later today.

    Do the drop-down menus at the top
    > on the www.adobe.com site get hidden behind the Flash applet beneath
    > the menu bar, also?


    Yes. Hadn't noticed this before because I generally hit the sit only to
    check to see if Flash is working properly.

    >
    > [1] ,
    >
    >


    Very interesting... particularly when their own site displays that problem.

    Thanks! Now I have something to dig into.

    Gary

  5. Re: Linux v Windows CSS

    On 09/17/2007 11:40 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
    > Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:53:03 -0700, /NoOp/:
    >
    >> http://www.toyota.com/
    >> and
    >> http://www.toyota.com/rav4/index.htm..._TN_RAV4_INDEX
    >>
    >> The flash display appears to be behind something on the first page and
    >> the menus drop behind the flash display on the second page. They work
    >> perfect on a winXP installation with Firefox 2.0.0.6.
    >> ====
    >>
    >> I've checked in both Firefox (linux & windows) and SeaMonkey (linux &
    >> windows) and can verify the problem - works perfectly in Windows, does
    >> not on Linux.

    >
    > This is most likely related to the 'wmode' parameter [1]. As far as
    > I know it is supported on Linux but surely not on Macs. Don't know
    > if it makes difference but which Flash plug-in do you use - the
    > Adobe one or the GNU one (GNASH)? Do the drop-down menus at the top
    > on the www.adobe.com site get hidden behind the Flash applet beneath
    > the menu bar, also?
    >
    > [1] ,
    >
    >


    Found the bug report:

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137189
    one of the recent entries:
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137189#c93

    Robert O'Callahan 2007-07-29 15:39:36 PDT

    Adobe wants to fix it. They had received a lot of user feedback and in fact
    were pressuring us to fix our side (which we have done). So don't annoy them
    please.

    What KHTML does is a partial solution. It's not going to happen for 1.9
    although we will be able to do it after that.





  6. Re: Linux v Windows CSS

    Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:18:49 -0400, /Rinaldi J. Montessi/:

    >> [1] ,
    >>

    >
    > Thanks for that tidbit of information, Stan. Is there anything we in
    > userland can do to alter the wmode so pages will display properly?


    I fear it is all up to the page author and the plug-in/browser
    implementation. Although this problem is not apparent on Windows I
    use the Flashblock extension which suppresses the Flash applets
    until I activate them. Before the Flash applets are shown any
    non-Flash menus should be stacked properly and visible. With pages
    like the www.toyota.com site one may try selectively activate only
    the top Flash applet which shows the menus.

    --
    Stanimir

  7. Re: Linux v Windows CSS

    Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
    > Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:18:49 -0400, /Rinaldi J. Montessi/:
    >
    >>> [1] ,
    >>>

    >>
    >> Thanks for that tidbit of information, Stan. Is there anything we in
    >> userland can do to alter the wmode so pages will display properly?

    >
    > I fear it is all up to the page author and the plug-in/browser
    > implementation. Although this problem is not apparent on Windows I
    > use the Flashblock extension which suppresses the Flash applets
    > until I activate them. Before the Flash applets are shown any
    > non-Flash menus should be stacked properly and visible. With pages
    > like the www.toyota.com site one may try selectively activate only
    > the top Flash applet which shows the menus.


    Thanks. I use CVS builds as a primary browser/mail-news client and most
    extensions won't install so I gave up trying. I'll add myself to the CC
    list for the bugs.

    --
    Fudd's First Law of Opposition:
    Push something hard enough and it will fall over.


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