annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>

Nope!

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annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>

Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite or
Seamonkey Suite.

Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??

Daniel

Daniel wrote:
> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>
>
> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite or
> Seamonkey Suite.
>
> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>
> Daniel

Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't there
in Moz then why would it be there in Net?

And its not there in TB either. Only Net 4.x had that function.

This option is the most requested function, and why nobody has done
anything about it I have no idea.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>
>
> Nope!
>
A feature similar to this "was' in Netscape Communicator 4 series. If
you read one post in a newsgroup and it happened to be cross posted all
of them regardless of groups posted to (on any particular server) were
automatically marked as read.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>>
>>
>> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
>> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite or
>> Seamonkey Suite.
>>
>> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>>
>> Daniel
>
> Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't there
> in Moz then why would it be there in Net?
>
> And its not there in TB either. Only Net 4.x had that function.
>
> This option is the most requested function, and why nobody has done
> anything about it I have no idea.
>
People don't want to look through the communicator code and figure out
how it was done then port the feature.

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The simple answer is that the developers do what THEY think should be
done, not what users request.


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>>
>>
>> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
>> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite or
>> Seamonkey Suite.
>>
>> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>>
>> Daniel
>
> Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't there
> in Moz then why would it be there in Net?
>
> And its not there in TB either. Only Net 4.x had that function.
>
> This option is the most requested function, and why nobody has done
> anything about it I have no idea.
>

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>>>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
>>> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite
>>> or Seamonkey Suite.
>>>
>>> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>
>> Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't there
>> in Moz then why would it be there in Net?
>>
>> And its not there in TB either. Only Net 4.x had that function.
>>
>> This option is the most requested function, and why nobody has done
>> anything about it I have no idea.
>>
> People don't want to look through the communicator code and figure out
> how it was done then port the feature.
>

then why don't you do it!? Nothings stopping you. If you don't know
code, then hire someone. Programmers in India go real cheap.

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Al wrote:
> The simple answer is that the developers do what THEY think should be
> done, not what users request.

it seems like it doesn't it. Its the old "we know whats best for you"
syndrome. But then you can do something about. You can fix it yourself
or hire someone to do it for you.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>>>>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
>>>> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite
>>>> or Seamonkey Suite.
>>>>
>>>> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't
>>> there in Moz then why would it be there in Net?
>>>
>>> And its not there in TB either. Only Net 4.x had that function.
>>>
>>> This option is the most requested function, and why nobody has done
>>> anything about it I have no idea.
>>>
>> People don't want to look through the communicator code and figure out
>> how it was done then port the feature.
>>
>
> then why don't you do it!? Nothings stopping you. If you don't know
> code, then hire someone. Programmers in India go real cheap.
>

Yes there is plenty stopping me. First If I had the funds to hire
someone. I would. Two I'm not a programmer. I am dedicated User and Tester.

It infuriates me if you want it done do it yourself. There are plenty of
Programmers to do it. There were a lot of great features That died in
Communicator. Because the programmers who really didn't even use the
program they were designing, didn't take time to crack open the
application look at it see what the popular features were for the users
and then port them over.

This feature we are talking about, and the one here you clicked a button
in menu for the bookmarks That would test all you bookmarks to see if
they were live or dead or changed so you could cull outdated bookmarks.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Al wrote:
>> The simple answer is that the developers do what THEY think should be
>> done, not what users request.
>
> it seems like it doesn't it. Its the old "we know whats best for you"
> syndrome. But then you can do something about. You can fix it yourself
> or hire someone to do it for you.
>
Exactly!! That the rub. Software should be made for the users to use --
not what some high and mighty program or chairman of the board -- thinks
is neat. Software is to be used for the masses.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>>
>>
>> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
>> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite or
>> Seamonkey Suite.
>>
>> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>>
>> Daniel
>
> Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't there
> in Moz then why would it be there in Net?
>

My thinking was that, maybe, it was something Netscape added, like
Netscape Messenger or, in later days, AIM

> And its not there in TB either. Only Net 4.x had that function.
>
> This option is the most requested function, and why nobody has done
> anything about it I have no idea.
>

Daniel

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
> This feature we are talking about, and the one here you clicked a button
> in menu for the bookmarks That would test all you bookmarks to see if
> they were live or dead or changed so you could cull outdated bookmarks.

perhaps, and thats a big perhaps, maybe those features of Net 4.x are
proprietary features of those programs and Netscape. In that case,
Mozilla can't use those features.

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Daniel wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>>>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
>>> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite
>>> or Seamonkey Suite.
>>>
>>> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>
>> Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't there
>> in Moz then why would it be there in Net?
>>
>
> My thinking was that, maybe, it was something Netscape added, like
> Netscape Messenger or, in later days, AIM
>

if thats the case, then those features belong to Netscape/AOL and cannot
be used with Moz/FF/TB/SM

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annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>
If you mean what you said, the answer is "yes, of course." If you mean
"is there a way in seamonkey," the answer is "no."

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the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Smiles wrote:
>>
>> as per this discussion;
>>
>> How many ISP in the US and other parts of Canada and world still have
>> access to newsgroups I know my ISP is looking at losing them so I will
>> lose this one as well and will have to go to giganews or other web
>> based news service
>>
>> locally I have 5 high speed ISPs only two support newsgroups the other
>> one charges $49.99 per month for newsgroup afters $49.95 for internet
>
> mine dropped newsgroups years ago, but didn't dropped their price. I
> pay around US$40 for mine
>

Yikes! I hope RoadRunner doesn't drop newsgroups.

GW

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Al wrote:
>>> The simple answer is that the developers do what THEY think should be
>>> done, not what users request.
>>
>> it seems like it doesn't it. Its the old "we know whats best for you"
>> syndrome. But then you can do something about. You can fix it
>> yourself or hire someone to do it for you.
>>
> Exactly!! That the rub. Software should be made for the users to use --
> not what some high and mighty program or chairman of the board -- thinks
> is neat. Software is to be used for the masses.
>

But some sort of limitation has to be made...perhaps the idea of voting
for the desired change should hold more esteem with the programmers.

Daniel

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>>>>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
>>>> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite
>>>> or Seamonkey Suite.
>>>>
>>>> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't
>>> there in Moz then why would it be there in Net?
>>>
>>
>> My thinking was that, maybe, it was something Netscape added, like
>> Netscape Messenger or, in later days, AIM
>>
>
> if thats the case, then those features belong to Netscape/AOL and cannot
> be used with Moz/FF/TB/SM
>

but... back in those days Netscape owned the code that was putting those
features into Netscape, AFAIK Netscape Corp then separated the
programmers (that included the feature in NC 4.x) into a section of
Netscape, then this section was moved outside of Netscape Corp and
called it Mozilla, so doesn't this mean that Mozilla really had the
rites to the code?? And, if so, could Mozilla.org be convinced to allow
Mozilla Thunderbird and SeaMonkey Suite use the code??

Just a thought.

Daniel

Daniel wrote:
> Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> Al wrote:
>>>> The simple answer is that the developers do what THEY think should
>>>> be done, not what users request.
>>>
>>> it seems like it doesn't it. Its the old "we know whats best for
>>> you" syndrome. But then you can do something about. You can fix it
>>> yourself or hire someone to do it for you.
>>>
>> Exactly!! That the rub. Software should be made for the users to use
>> -- not what some high and mighty program or chairman of the board --
>> thinks is neat. Software is to be used for the masses.
>>
>
> But some sort of limitation has to be made...perhaps the idea of voting
> for the desired change should hold more esteem with the programmers.
>
> Daniel

I don't expect the moon Since I've had an account on Bugzilla I've
worked for only one RFE request That was in Communicator That was placed
in Mozilla in a Fashion. And I've only suggested these other two items
on these news groups. That's what 3 suggestion in 8-9 years??

Some of the Features That were added, I thought were silly (Tabs for
one). The way I look at the web is similar to looking at 35 mm Slide
show. I do everything in sequence. I don't like all this hoping around
like a Mexican Jumping Bean. To get enough resources turned loose they
killed Grippes That have been in since old Netscape Navigator 2 days. I
use That feature daily. But to do so I have to use the Skypilot theme to
get it (FF and TB).

Most users don't want all the silly bells and whistles That Programmers
think look nifty. All these "nifty" feature to the average web browsers
mail reader user are dumb-ass ideas to them.

I think the worst idea of all was to follow the Microsoft model IE/OE or
IE/Entourage and split Mozilla into individual parts. Even today FF/TB
are not perfectly coordinated with each other as the different modules
on Mozilla/SeaMonkey.

Example: Mailto links in FF don't work as they should. You click on a
mailto link in Seamonkey the email section opens with compose message
window already open, "AND" the email address for the receiver (one in
the mailto link) is already filled in.

In FF it opens an empty web Page then it opens TBird to Compose Mail
window. But no address you have to fill that in on your own. Or most
times it just opens TB Period.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> annemchambers@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Is it possible to filter all messages on a newsgroup that are cross-
>>>>> posted so that they are marked as read ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Back in the Netscape Communicator Ver 4.7x days, this function did
>>>> operate, but, to my knowledge, it has never worked in Mozilla Suite
>>>> or Seamonkey Suite.
>>>>
>>>> Does it work in Thunderbird?? How about NS 7.x??
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Netscape 7.2 was based on Mozilla Suite 1.7.2. So, if it wasn't
>>> there in Moz then why would it be there in Net?
>>>
>>
>> My thinking was that, maybe, it was something Netscape added, like
>> Netscape Messenger or, in later days, AIM
>>
>
> if thats the case, then those features belong to Netscape/AOL and cannot
> be used with Moz/FF/TB/SM
>
No The feature about Bookmarks was in Communicator before AOL go
involved and The instant messenger feature was added almost at the start
of the Communicator series long before AOL go involved other than to
license Instant messenger feature from AOL. That was Mozilla software at
the time.

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