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This is a discussion on SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade! - Mozilla ; JoeS schrieb: > Now that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371576 is fixed, > will there be a re-spin of 1.1.1 As I said in the dev newsgroup, I don't think so. Robert Kaiser...

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  1. Re: SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade!

    JoeS schrieb:
    > Now that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371576 is fixed,
    > will there be a re-spin of 1.1.1


    As I said in the dev newsgroup, I don't think so.

    Robert Kaiser

  2. Re: SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade!

    JoeS wrote:
    > Robert Kaiser wrote:
    >> Hi all,
    >>
    >> Following the Gecko security update releases a few days ago, the
    >> SeaMonkey project issued new security and stability releases today for
    >> its all-in-one internet application suite. SeaMonkey 1.1.1 is now
    >> available for download, fixing several security vulnerabilities as
    >> well as a list of problems users of SeaMonkey 1.1 reported to
    >> developers. See the release notes for a complete list of changes.
    >> Additionally, the project also released SeaMonkey 1.0.8, which fixes
    >> the security vulnerabilites listed above also for the SeaMonkey 1.0
    >> series, without adding the new features available in 1.1 and later
    >> versions.
    >>
    >>
    >> Full news article:
    >> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seam...tml#2007-02-28
    >>
    >> Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
    >> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/
    >>
    >> Release notes:
    >> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seam...eamonkey1.1.1/
    >> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seam...eamonkey1.0.8/
    >>
    >> Greetings,
    >>
    >> Robert Kaiser
    >> SeaMonkey Council member

    > Now that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371576 is fixed,
    > will there be a re-spin of 1.1.1
    >
    > JoeS


    At any time, you may download the latest build on the path from 1.1.1 to 1.1.2
    (normally one new build per 24h) by browsing to
    http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o...st-mozilla1.8/ --
    at your own risk, of course. Each build ought not to be markedly more unstable
    than the one before, but no Mozilla official will give any warranty about
    them: the official motto is "Use nightlies at your own risk, they might beat
    your dog, empty your fridge, put your house on fire, and elope with your
    wife." ;-)


    Best regards,
    Tony.
    --
    "What's another word for Thesaurus?"
    -- Steven Wright

  3. Re: SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade!

    *Ken* typed up the following:

    > Chris Thomas wrote:
    >> Ken wrote:
    >>> From reading the release notes for SM 1.1.1, it doesn't sound like
    >>> the problem I was having with SM 1.1 and posted about here at the end
    >>> of January ('SM 1.1. Mail. Paper-size settings') has been addressed?
    >>> Every time I went to print an email from my Inbox, I had to re-set
    >>> the paper-size from Letter to A4. I'm currently using SM 1.0.7,
    >>> where no such problem exists.
    >>>
    >>> Can anyone confirm for me whether the problem has, or has not, been
    >>> addressed in SM 1.1.1?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks - Ken (in Oz)

    >>
    >> Is a bug filed? If not, it will never, ever be fixed.
    >>
    >> Chris

    >
    > Looks like it MAY indeed have been fixed. I went to Bugzilla (is that
    > right?) and found this listed after I nominated SeaMonkey bugs:
    >
    >> 351913 min -- All
    >> iann_bugzilla@arlen.demon.c... RESO FIXE Printer paper
    >> format always set to letter

    >
    > But can anyone confirm re SM 1.1.1.?
    >
    > Thanks - Ken (in Oz)


    I remember the discussion Ken, and having just upgraded, it looks like
    it's been fixed. I went to print a mail message, and the printer
    dialogue showed the default paper size of A4.

    --
    Klaas Visser
    Posted using SeaMonkey - http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

    "Always and never are two words you should always remember never to use"

  4. Re: SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade!

    Klaas Visser wrote:
    > *Ken* typed up the following:
    >
    >> Chris Thomas wrote:
    >>> Ken wrote:
    >>>> From reading the release notes for SM 1.1.1, it doesn't sound like
    >>>> the problem I was having with SM 1.1 and posted about here at the
    >>>> end of January ('SM 1.1. Mail. Paper-size settings') has been
    >>>> addressed? Every time I went to print an email from my Inbox, I had
    >>>> to re-set the paper-size from Letter to A4. I'm currently using SM
    >>>> 1.0.7, where no such problem exists.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can anyone confirm for me whether the problem has, or has not, been
    >>>> addressed in SM 1.1.1?
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks - Ken (in Oz)
    >>>
    >>> Is a bug filed? If not, it will never, ever be fixed.
    >>>
    >>> Chris

    >>
    >> Looks like it MAY indeed have been fixed. I went to Bugzilla (is that
    >> right?) and found this listed after I nominated SeaMonkey bugs:
    >>
    >>> 351913 min -- All
    >>> iann_bugzilla@arlen.demon.c... RESO FIXE Printer paper
    >>> format always set to letter

    >>
    >> But can anyone confirm re SM 1.1.1.?
    >>
    >> Thanks - Ken (in Oz)

    >
    > I remember the discussion Ken, and having just upgraded, it looks like
    > it's been fixed. I went to print a mail message, and the printer
    > dialogue showed the default paper size of A4.


    Thanks a lot, Klaas, and you other guys.

    - Ken (in Oz)


  5. Re: SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade!

    Ken wrote, On 3/03/2007 9:27 PM:
    > From reading the release notes for SM 1.1.1, it doesn't sound like the
    > problem I was having with SM 1.1 and posted about here at the end of
    > January ('SM 1.1. Mail. Paper-size settings') has been addressed? Every
    > time I went to print an email from my Inbox, I had to re-set the
    > paper-size from Letter to A4. I'm currently using SM 1.0.7, where no
    > such problem exists.
    >
    > Can anyone confirm for me whether the problem has, or has not, been
    > addressed in SM 1.1.1?
    >
    > Thanks - Ken (in Oz)

    Hi Ken

    Looks like it is fixed for me!

    Peter L (In OZ also)

  6. Re: SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade!

    Robert Kaiser wrote:
    > JAS schrieb:
    >> Will it ever be that we can update like Firefox and Thunderbird without
    >> having to do a complete install? I am sure everything is not rewritten.

    >
    > This needs to update infrastructure of the "new toolkit", so we can't
    > support it on versions that still build on the "old xpfe backend". We
    > will into this for future SeaMonkey versions that will build on the
    > mentioned new infrastructure.
    > Until then, i.e.e for SeaMonkey 1.0.x and 1.1.x, we can only offer full
    > update releases, no partial updates.
    >

    With all respect, I have never seen ANY update release, only REINSTALL
    releases. That is, all of existing SM is deleted, a new base unmodified
    install is done, then all the various plugins and themes are installed.

    I can tell you that this is a major security risk, because a lot of
    people will say "I don't have time," or put it on the list of things to
    do when there's no real work to do. Or just switch to Firefox,
    Thunderbird, and Pan.

    And for someone who is responsible for multiple machines with different
    changes per machine, it starts looking like a line item on a weekly
    tasks list.

    I don't say this because I'm lazy, just because I hate to see a great
    software package be viewed as too expensive. Please consider delaying
    some of the things you want to do because they're neat and rethinking
    the difference between an update and a total do-over. if there were a
    way to do "save changes" and "reapply changes" that would be fine, but
    sitting with a browser ansering questions about installs doesn't scale.

    --
    Bill Davidsen
    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
    the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot

  7. Re: SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade!

    Bill Davidsen wrote:
    > Robert Kaiser wrote:
    >> JAS schrieb:
    >>> Will it ever be that we can update like Firefox and Thunderbird without
    >>> having to do a complete install? I am sure everything is not rewritten.

    >>
    >> This needs to update infrastructure of the "new toolkit", so we can't
    >> support it on versions that still build on the "old xpfe backend". We
    >> will into this for future SeaMonkey versions that will build on the
    >> mentioned new infrastructure.
    >> Until then, i.e.e for SeaMonkey 1.0.x and 1.1.x, we can only offer
    >> full update releases, no partial updates.
    >>

    > With all respect, I have never seen ANY update release, only REINSTALL
    > releases. That is, all of existing SM is deleted, a new base unmodified
    > install is done, then all the various plugins and themes are installed.
    >
    > I can tell you that this is a major security risk, because a lot of
    > people will say "I don't have time," or put it on the list of things to
    > do when there's no real work to do. Or just switch to Firefox,
    > Thunderbird, and Pan.
    >
    > And for someone who is responsible for multiple machines with different
    > changes per machine, it starts looking like a line item on a weekly
    > tasks list.
    >
    > I don't say this because I'm lazy, just because I hate to see a great
    > software package be viewed as too expensive. Please consider delaying
    > some of the things you want to do because they're neat and rethinking
    > the difference between an update and a total do-over. if there were a
    > way to do "save changes" and "reapply changes" that would be fine, but
    > sitting with a browser ansering questions about installs doesn't scale.
    >


    If you install your extensions & themes in your profile, and plugins in the
    default "Netscape plugin" location, you don't need to reinstall them when you
    upgrade SeaMonkey. Then a Sm install won't take much time. I do one every day
    (for the next trunk nightly) and it doesn't significantly break my work routine.

    Another possibility is to keep a local copy of extensions' and themes' xpi and
    jar files in some local folder that the install won't destroy: this method has
    advantages (if you see it as an advantage to have add-ons common to all users
    on a multiuser system) and inconvenients (you need to run the program once to
    pick up the addons, then restart).

    Best regards,
    Tony.
    --
    Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.

  8. Re: SeaMonkey 1.0.8 and 1.1.1 released - please upgrade!

    Bill Davidsen schrieb:
    > With all respect, I have never seen ANY update release, only REINSTALL
    > releases.


    1) You haven't understood what the word "update" means. It doesn't mean
    "partial binary diff" as you seem to think, it just means that the
    code/software was made in some way more up-to-date, for security,
    functionality, or whatever. The word "update" is in no way any statement
    about how this is technically delivered or applied to a user-side install.

    2) Actually, our reworking of the whole suite is also what will enable
    us to enable the partial binary diff upgrade installer currently in use
    by Firefox.

    Robert Kaiser

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