MWM *DisplayArea.Background vs *Background

Trying to bring the color scheme into-line with modern Qt and Gtk+ apps
that use white windows.

I'm having difficulty finding setting a handful of resource manager held
color properties that will make clients use white for the window's display
area, but grey for the client menu bar and client menu dropdown.

*Background:grey, *DisplayArea.Background:white leads to too many client
windows having grey main areas, *DisplayArea.Background:white appearing to
have no effect.

None of the Motif clients using menu bars that I've tried appear to
understand editres, so I gave-up trying to fix this myself.

I found an article describing how to make NEdit look much less out of
place alongside modern apps, but surprisingly found nothing more general.

By trial and error, I've arrived at:

*DisplayArea.background: White

*Background: grey74
*topShadowColor: gainsboro
*bottomShadowColor: gray55
*troughColor: gray74
*selectColor: #356

Mwm*background: gray74
Mwm*topShadowColor: gainsboro
Mwm*bottomShadowColor: #5E5E5E

Mwm*menu*background: gray74
Mwm*menu*topShadowColor: gainsboro
Mwm*menu*bottomShadowColor: #5E5E5E

Mwm*activeBackground: cadetblue
Mwm*activeTopShadowColor: slategray2
Mwm*activeBottomShadowColor: #325455

Suggestions as to how to give clients that grey-bordered and grey-menued
but white main area background more modern appearance will be gratefully
appreciated.

Mike. Email:pls see headers.

Glad tidings of joy and good will to all this Christmas tide.

No Spam wrote:
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> None of the Motif clients using menu bars that I've tried appear to
> understand editres, so I gave-up trying to fix this myself.[/color]

Both Nedit and DDD have menu bars and support editres,
at least as compiled on Linux.

Dušan Peterc
[url]http://www.arahne.si[/url]

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, arahne wrote:
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> No Spam wrote:
>[color=green]
>> None of the Motif clients using menu bars that I've tried appear to
>> understand editres, so I gave-up trying to fix this myself.[/color]
>
> Both Nedit and DDD have menu bars and support editres,
> at least as compiled on Linux.
>[/color]
Thanks for trying to help. NEdit 5.5 built on Solaris, Sparc is just fine
too. Its other clients. I suppose I need to rephrase my question.

The xserver is started with these resources loaded:

*main*background: White
*DisplayArea.background: White
*CSText*background: White
*DwtText*background: White
*DXmCSText*background: White
*Stext*background: White
*XmList*background: White
*XmText*background: White
*XmTextField*background: White

*Background: grey74

in an (unsuccessful) attempt to get clients to use grey windows in general,
but make the main text area white.

Should I be defaulting the window background grey and then overriding the
text areas white (or vice versa)? If so, how, without editres'ing each
app and setting them individually?

nospam wrote:[color=blue]
> in an (unsuccessful) attempt to get clients to use grey windows in general,
> but make the main text area white.[/color]

What window manager / desktop are you using?
I have last used Sparc 14 years ago, so I can not advise you on that.
On Linux, some Desktops/window managers, like KDE will try to
force non-KDE X clients into their color scheme, making things
generally worse. It is enabled by default, but can be disabled.

Maybe a behavior like this interferes with your custom settings.

Best regards,

Dušan Peterc
[url]http://www.arahne.si[/url]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, arahne wrote:

arahne wrote:[color=blue]
>
> What window manager / desktop are you using?[/color]

mwm / X-Terminal
[color=blue]
> I have last used Sparc 14 years ago, so I can not advise you on that.
> On Linux, some Desktops/window managers, like KDE will try to
> force non-KDE X clients into their color scheme, making things
> generally worse. It is enabled by default, but can be disabled.
> Maybe a behavior like this interferes with your custom settings.[/color]

Perhaps CDE and VUE before it have some nasty palette
arrangement. But no, this is mwm.

I had wanted the menu bar and drop downs grey, however I've
quite got used to them white. Looks clean and contemporary
enough, though at the expense of some loss of the 3D effect.

Thanks.

"nospam" <michael@example.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOC.4.60.0701110234500.7093@parody.tel.co.uk...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, arahne wrote:
>
> arahne wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> What window manager / desktop are you using?[/color]
>
> mwm / X-Terminal
>[color=green]
>> I have last used Sparc 14 years ago, so I can not advise you on that.
>> On Linux, some Desktops/window managers, like KDE will try to
>> force non-KDE X clients into their color scheme, making things
>> generally worse. It is enabled by default, but can be disabled.
>> Maybe a behavior like this interferes with your custom settings.[/color]
>
> Perhaps CDE and VUE before it have some nasty palette
> arrangement. But no, this is mwm.
>
> I had wanted the menu bar and drop downs grey, however I've
> quite got used to them white. Looks clean and contemporary
> enough, though at the expense of some loss of the 3D effect.
>
> Thanks.[/color]

Try:
?*XmRowColumn.?.background: gray

--
Fred L. Kleinschmidt
Boeing Associate Technical Fellow
Technical Architect, Software Reuse Project

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Fred Kleinschmidt wrote:
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> Try:
> ?*XmRowColumn.?.background: gray[/color]

Thanks, next reboot I'll certainly give that a try...