"moose" writes:

> When minix installed minix grabbed 135000000 bytes of memory, and Xorg
> would not start. chmem to 80000000 and Xorg produced an login window,
> but would start. chmem => and added small amounts of memory until
> Xorg stopped responding.
>
> Since Xorg worked better at 80000000 bytes, I thought "what the hell"
> and chmem to 50000000 bytes and Xorg booted up and now gives a very
> nice terminal which works wondefully well. As we say here in
> wonderland, I'm a happy camper

Ah.

I think there is an explanation for that: Think about what happens to
memory during fork() when there is no vfork() and no virtual
memory. xdm probably fork/execs at least once (and in the process
copies megabytes of memory for nothing -- I vote for a fast arrival of
virtual memory :-) ).

Regards -- Markus

How can exit by X11 in minix?
I try exit , and shutdown and restart by shell but nothing.
Markus E Leypold ha scritto:

> "moose" writes:
>
> > When minix installed minix grabbed 135000000 bytes of memory, and Xorg
> > would not start. chmem to 80000000 and Xorg produced an login window,
> > but would start. chmem => and added small amounts of memory until
> > Xorg stopped responding.
> >
> > Since Xorg worked better at 80000000 bytes, I thought "what the hell"
> > and chmem to 50000000 bytes and Xorg booted up and now gives a very
> > nice terminal which works wondefully well. As we say here in
> > wonderland, I'm a happy camper
>
> Ah.
>
> I think there is an explanation for that: Think about what happens to
> memory during fork() when there is no vfork() and no virtual
> memory. xdm probably fork/execs at least once (and in the process
> copies megabytes of memory for nothing -- I vote for a fast arrival of
> virtual memory :-) ).
>
> Regards -- Markus

Hello,

> How can exit by X11 in minix?
> I try exit , and shutdown and restart by shell but nothing.

The combination Ctrl+Alt+BackSpace kills the X-Server.
Another way is to close every application (including the window manager,
whichever it is).

Both don't help when running xdm as it will restart the X server whenever it
gets shut down. You could kill every instance of xdm and afterwards kill the
X server, but that's no good idea.

If you just want to switch back to your virtual consoles, you can do it
using Ctrl+Alt+Fn.

Regards,
Sebastian

All,

On 2007-04-17, Sebastian wrote:
> Both don't help when running xdm as it will restart the X server whenever it
> gets shut down. You could kill every instance of xdm and afterwards kill the
> X server, but that's no good idea.

In the Minix X port, an xdm key combo was introduced to get out of xdm
easily - CTRL+R.

However, the OP's reboot, shutdown, etc. should also work of course..

> If you just want to switch back to your virtual consoles, you can do it
> using Ctrl+Alt+Fn.

That isn't supported in the Minix X port though.

=Ben

> In the Minix X port, an xdm key combo was introduced to get out of xdm
> easily - CTRL+R.

Oh, I didn't know that.

> > If you just want to switch back to your virtual consoles, you can do it
> > using Ctrl+Alt+Fn.
>
> That isn't supported in the Minix X port though.

Neither did I know that.

Sorry for inconveniences.

Regards,
Sebastian

On Apr 17, 7:57 am, Markus E Leypold
wrote:
> "moose" writes:
> > When minix installed minix grabbed 135000000 bytes of memory, and Xorg
> > would not start. chmem to 80000000 and Xorg produced an login window,
> > but would start. chmem => and added small amounts of memory until
> > Xorg stopped responding.
>
> > Since Xorg worked better at 80000000 bytes, I thought "what the hell"
> > and chmem to 50000000 bytes and Xorg booted up and now gives a very
> > nice terminal which works wondefully well. As we say here in
> > wonderland, I'm a happy camper
>
> Ah.
>
> I think there is an explanation for that: Think about what happens to
> memory during fork() when there is no vfork() and no virtual
> memory. xdm probably fork/execs at least once (and in the process
> copies megabytes of memory for nothing -- I vote for a fast arrival of
> virtual memory :-) ).
>
> Regards -- Markus


Hi Markus:

Do you believe the same forking take place when startX is used

Regards :: moose