"kjr" wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Isn't there a way to assign file permissions in XP? I have multiple
> users created in my XP box, and I want the users' files to be
> protected from one another. I do not see a "Security" tab in the
> properties dialog.
>
> There is an option to encrypt the contents of a file, which prevents
> other users from reading it. However, the other users can delete the
> file! Also, if a file is not encrypted, any user can encrypt it and
> thus prevent the real owner (who created the file) from accessing it.
>
> Wouldn't access control have been a simpler, and cleaner, way of
> protecting files?
>
> kjr

What about having each user's files located in subfolders under his
individual "My Documents" main folder?

regards Sven

Uncheck
Tools > Folder Options > View > Use simple file sharing

kjr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Isn't there a way to assign file permissions in XP? I have multiple
> users created in my XP box, and I want the users' files to be
> protected from one another. I do not see a "Security" tab in the
> properties dialog.
>
> There is an option to encrypt the contents of a file, which prevents
> other users from reading it. However, the other users can delete the
> file! Also, if a file is not encrypted, any user can encrypt it and
> thus prevent the real owner (who created the file) from accessing it.
>
> Wouldn't access control have been a simpler, and cleaner, way of
> protecting files?
>
> kjr

XP Pro
NTFS
No 'Simple File Sharing'
Security tab on Folder Properties.

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Don't take life too seriously, You won't get out alive.

"Sven Pran" wrote in message news:...
> "kjr" wrote in message
> news:9c03fff1.0406092324.48d8cde1@posting.google.c om...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Isn't there a way to assign file permissions in XP? I have multiple
> > users created in my XP box, and I want the users' files to be
> > protected from one another. I do not see a "Security" tab in the
> > properties dialog.
> >
> > There is an option to encrypt the contents of a file, which prevents
> > other users from reading it. However, the other users can delete the
> > file! Also, if a file is not encrypted, any user can encrypt it and
> > thus prevent the real owner (who created the file) from accessing it.
> >
> > Wouldn't access control have been a simpler, and cleaner, way of
> > protecting files?
> >
> > kjr
>
> What about having each user's files located in subfolders under his
> individual "My Documents" main folder?
>
> regards Sven

Sven,

Thanks for your reply. Individual limited users can protect their
files by storing in the "My Documents" folder as you suggest. But this
restricts the way files are organized! All files need to be inside the
"Documents and Settings" folder. If a file is outside this folder,
then any limited user can take control and prevent other users from
using it, including administrative users! How do we install software
that all users can use? A limited user could encrypt the software's
directory! (XP does prevent a limited user from encrypting files and
folders of most installed software, but not all. Eg., I could not
encrypt "Program Files\Adobe", but I could encrypt the oracle.exe
file, and now I cannot start the Oracle service).

kjr

kjr wrote:
> "Sven Pran" wrote in message
> news:...
>> "kjr" wrote in message
>> news:9c03fff1.0406092324.48d8cde1@posting.google.c om...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Isn't there a way to assign file permissions in XP? I have multiple
>>> users created in my XP box, and I want the users' files to be
>>> protected from one another. I do not see a "Security" tab in the
>>> properties dialog.
>>>
>>> There is an option to encrypt the contents of a file, which prevents
>>> other users from reading it. However, the other users can delete the
>>> file! Also, if a file is not encrypted, any user can encrypt it and
>>> thus prevent the real owner (who created the file) from accessing
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't access control have been a simpler, and cleaner, way of
>>> protecting files?
>>>
>>> kjr
>>
>> What about having each user's files located in subfolders under his
>> individual "My Documents" main folder?
>>
>> regards Sven
>
> Sven,
>
> Thanks for your reply. Individual limited users can protect their
> files by storing in the "My Documents" folder as you suggest. But this
> restricts the way files are organized! All files need to be inside the
> "Documents and Settings" folder. If a file is outside this folder,
> then any limited user can take control and prevent other users from
> using it, including administrative users! How do we install software
> that all users can use? A limited user could encrypt the software's
> directory! (XP does prevent a limited user from encrypting files and
> folders of most installed software, but not all. Eg., I could not
> encrypt "Program Files\Adobe", but I could encrypt the oracle.exe
> file, and now I cannot start the Oracle service).

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! You tard****.

kjr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Isn't there a way to assign file permissions in XP?

If you have XP Pro, you can use gpedit.msc. If you have XP home, you're
****ed.

If you are running Windows XP Home Edition, File Sharing
is not supported. See:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...p_home_pro.asp
which reads in part:
"Only Windows XP Professional supports file-level access control, mostly because
this feature is typically implemented through Group Policy Objects, which are also
not available in Home Edition. "

However, Home Edition does support file/folder compression (Zip) with
a password. So you can create compressed folder(s) with password(s)
which at least renders the files private. To do this click Start and
choose Help and Support and enter the keyword: compress

If you have any questions after that, post them here.

Skip Knoble, Penn State



On 10 Jun 2004 00:24:43 -0700, kjr_one@hotmail.com (kjr) wrote:

-|Hi,
-|
-|Isn't there a way to assign file permissions in XP? I have multiple
-|users created in my XP box, and I want the users' files to be
-|protected from one another. I do not see a "Security" tab in the
-|properties dialog.
-|
-|There is an option to encrypt the contents of a file, which prevents
-|other users from reading it. However, the other users can delete the
-|file! Also, if a file is not encrypted, any user can encrypt it and
-|thus prevent the real owner (who created the file) from accessing it.
-|
-|Wouldn't access control have been a simpler, and cleaner, way of
-|protecting files?
-|
-|kjr


Herman D. (Skip) Knoble, Research Associate
(a computing professional for 38 years)
Email: SkipKnobleLESS at SPAMpsu dot edu
Web: http://www.personal.psu.edu/hdk
Penn State Information Technology Services
Academic Services and Emerging Technologies
Graduate Education and Research Services
Penn State University
214C Computer Building
University Park, PA 16802-21013
Phone:+1 814 865-0818 Fax:+1 814 863-7049

Thank you!

I've been looking for that very setting for a few days now.

That did the trick and was exactly what I was looking for.

"§" <§@§.§> wrote in message
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> Uncheck
> Tools > Folder Options > View > Use simple file sharing
>
>

Herman D. Knoble wrote in message news:...
> If you are running Windows XP Home Edition, File Sharing
> is not supported. See:
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...p_home_pro.asp
> which reads in part:
> "Only Windows XP Professional supports file-level access control, mostly because
> this feature is typically implemented through Group Policy Objects, which are also
> not available in Home Edition. "
>
> However, Home Edition does support file/folder compression (Zip) with
> a password. So you can create compressed folder(s) with password(s)
> which at least renders the files private. To do this click Start and
> choose Help and Support and enter the keyword: compress
>
> If you have any questions after that, post them here.
>
> Skip Knoble, Penn State
>
>
>
> On 10 Jun 2004 00:24:43 -0700, kjr_one@hotmail.com (kjr) wrote:
>
> -|Hi,
> -|
> -|Isn't there a way to assign file permissions in XP? I have multiple
> -|users created in my XP box, and I want the users' files to be
> -|protected from one another. I do not see a "Security" tab in the
> -|properties dialog.
> -|
> -|There is an option to encrypt the contents of a file, which prevents
> -|other users from reading it. However, the other users can delete the
> -|file! Also, if a file is not encrypted, any user can encrypt it and
> -|thus prevent the real owner (who created the file) from accessing it.
> -|
> -|Wouldn't access control have been a simpler, and cleaner, way of
> -|protecting files?
> -|
> -|kjr
>
>
> Herman D. (Skip) Knoble, Research Associate
> (a computing professional for 38 years)
> Email: SkipKnobleLESS at SPAMpsu dot edu
> Web: http://www.personal.psu.edu/hdk
> Penn State Information Technology Services
> Academic Services and Emerging Technologies
> Graduate Education and Research Services
> Penn State University
> 214C Computer Building
> University Park, PA 16802-21013
> Phone:+1 814 865-0818 Fax:+1 814 863-7049

I have XP Pro, and unchecking Tools->Folder Options->View->Use Simple
File Sharing shows the security tab, as § mentioned above.

thanks for the responses.
kjr