Re: Battery Backup software
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:23:16 -0800, John Hyde <EJHyd@netscape.net> wrote:
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>Greetings,
>
>I have a small business network that is currently without interruptible
>power. I intend to add battery backup to both the server, running Small
>Business Server 2003, and desktops running XP-pro.
>
>I have been able to find a number of products that will provide enough
>power for our needs. (*) All advertise that they have software that
>will, when battery power is too low, signal the OS to save an image to
>disk and then shut down cleanly.
>
>Here's my problem. My limited experience with those systems (All with
>Win 98 systems) is that they are rather kludgy and cause unacceptable
>conflicts with the OS.
>
>Does anyone here have experience with this issue in XP-Pro? SBS2003?
>Any hints of where I can get reliable guidance that is not just
>manufacturer hype?
>
>(*) Our needs are fairly low scale, enough power to smooth over a 15
>minute or so outage, and the ability to self protect if the outage is
>longer. We don't need long term run capability, so our expectation is
>that we can use a product costing in the low hundreds, not the thousands.
>
>Thanks for any thoughts.
>
>JH[/color]
fwiw, all of our systems running Server 2003 standard (1) and XP Pro (5) are
behind APC Back-UPS standby ups boxes, running the APC ups service kits. They
are all set to suspend to disk in an extended outage - and with our provincial
power company providing the mains service, they get tested often ;-)
No conflicts, no problems, it all just works. But note that these are indeed
"standby" units; they don't continuously provide load power from the
batteries/inverter circuitry, they kick in only after a problem is detected.
If you have significant voltage noise on your mains and you're looking to
filter that out, these might not be the best solution for you...
Cheers
/daytripper
Re: Battery Backup software
On 12/29/2006 9:06 AM, daytripper wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:23:16 -0800, John Hyde <EJHyd@netscape.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I have a small business network that is currently without interruptible
>> power. I intend to add battery backup to both the server, running Small
>> Business Server 2003, and desktops running XP-pro.
>>
>> I have been able to find a number of products that will provide enough
>> power for our needs. (*) All advertise that they have software that
>> will, when battery power is too low, signal the OS to save an image to
>> disk and then shut down cleanly.
>>
>> Here's my problem. My limited experience with those systems (All with
>> Win 98 systems) is that they are rather kludgy and cause unacceptable
>> conflicts with the OS.
>>
>> Does anyone here have experience with this issue in XP-Pro? SBS2003?
>> Any hints of where I can get reliable guidance that is not just
>> manufacturer hype?
>>
>> (*) Our needs are fairly low scale, enough power to smooth over a 15
>> minute or so outage, and the ability to self protect if the outage is
>> longer. We don't need long term run capability, so our expectation is
>> that we can use a product costing in the low hundreds, not the thousands.
>>
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>
>> JH[/color]
>
> fwiw, all of our systems running Server 2003 standard (1) and XP Pro (5) are
> behind APC Back-UPS standby ups boxes, running the APC ups service kits. They
> are all set to suspend to disk in an extended outage - and with our provincial
> power company providing the mains service, they get tested often ;-)
>
> No conflicts, no problems, it all just works. But note that these are indeed
> "standby" units; they don't continuously provide load power from the
> batteries/inverter circuitry, they kick in only after a problem is detected.
> If you have significant voltage noise on your mains and you're looking to
> filter that out, these might not be the best solution for you...
>
> Cheers
>
> /daytripper[/color]
Thanks, The APC is what I have used with Win 98 and they did not
coexist. I had hoped that it would do better with XP, but didn;t want
to invest as an experiment.
Any trouble installing on the server? Or was it pretty much "out of the
box?" Thanks again
JH
Re: Battery Backup software
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:35:50 -0800, John Hyde <EJHyd@netscape.net> wrote:
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>On 12/29/2006 9:06 AM, daytripper wrote:[color=green]
>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:23:16 -0800, John Hyde <EJHyd@netscape.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I have a small business network that is currently without interruptible
>>> power. I intend to add battery backup to both the server, running Small
>>> Business Server 2003, and desktops running XP-pro.
>>>
>>> I have been able to find a number of products that will provide enough
>>> power for our needs. (*) All advertise that they have software that
>>> will, when battery power is too low, signal the OS to save an image to
>>> disk and then shut down cleanly.
>>>
>>> Here's my problem. My limited experience with those systems (All with
>>> Win 98 systems) is that they are rather kludgy and cause unacceptable
>>> conflicts with the OS.
>>>
>>> Does anyone here have experience with this issue in XP-Pro? SBS2003?
>>> Any hints of where I can get reliable guidance that is not just
>>> manufacturer hype?
>>>
>>> (*) Our needs are fairly low scale, enough power to smooth over a 15
>>> minute or so outage, and the ability to self protect if the outage is
>>> longer. We don't need long term run capability, so our expectation is
>>> that we can use a product costing in the low hundreds, not the thousands.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>>
>>> JH[/color]
>>
>> fwiw, all of our systems running Server 2003 standard (1) and XP Pro (5) are
>> behind APC Back-UPS standby ups boxes, running the APC ups service kits. They
>> are all set to suspend to disk in an extended outage - and with our provincial
>> power company providing the mains service, they get tested often ;-)
>>
>> No conflicts, no problems, it all just works. But note that these are indeed
>> "standby" units; they don't continuously provide load power from the
>> batteries/inverter circuitry, they kick in only after a problem is detected.
>> If you have significant voltage noise on your mains and you're looking to
>> filter that out, these might not be the best solution for you...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> /daytripper[/color]
>
>Thanks, The APC is what I have used with Win 98 and they did not
>coexist. I had hoped that it would do better with XP, but didn;t want
>to invest as an experiment.
>
>Any trouble installing on the server? Or was it pretty much "out of the
>box?" Thanks again
>
>JH[/color]
Straight out of the box installations. APC's kit hooks the existing Microsoft
ups service in Server and XP - a feature that I don't believe ever existed in
Win98 or ME operating systems - so it's truly a no-brainer to set up and
operate.
Cheers
/daytripper
