WRONG!
The advice on this NG has been somewhat disasterous.

1. Hell's Teeth!
NOD32 turns out to be incompatible with Google Desktop Search (which is
one of my most useful applications!)
I uninstalled Google Desktop and re-installed with the latest version
of Google Desktop. Still no good.
Right I guess that's the end of NOD32.
So I tried AVG.

2. AVG is not better.
AVG is now fighting with my "Roxio" - which I had no idea is installed
on my machine (!!) and which doesnt appear in my control panel's
Add/Remove programs. I have no idea which version of the software is on
my machine

AVG generated this message on Roxio's site:

"An update is available.

Thank you for submitting an error report. The error was likely caused
by:

Roxio's CDR4 (cdr4_xp.sys)

Roxio, Inc. is the manufacturer. An update is available that may
correct the problem you reported. To obtain the update and more
information from the Roxio, Inc. Web site please click here."

But I dont have any *serial number* with which to get my upgrade on the
Roxio site!

Boll*x! Right that's the end of AVG.
Damned lucky I'm only installing Trials of each of these Anti-Virus
utilities.

Now what - Kaspersky?!


3. Kasperky
Seems rather bloated.
Irritatingly I couldnt get the Scheduler to run the scan last night.
So I had to run a scan manually this morning...

And slow!
It's been running for an hour and a half and it's only managed to scan
about a third (36%) of my computer!

But It has now found 880 viruses on my computer (mainly attached to
emails that Norton and/or McAfee have failed to kill off). And rather
than kill them itself it appears that I'm gonna have to wait for it to
compete its scan before it actually does anything about the viruses!

That'll be another 2 .5 hours then. [deep sigh!]

Call me a light-weight but I have to say that I do wish my Anti-Virus
software would actually take action against my incoming viruses, rather
the point to them and say "cor look what I've found". Dont just stand
there, kill the b*stards! is what I say.


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

ship wrote

> WRONG!
> The advice on this NG has been somewhat disasterous.

Which group? You're posting to two.

That'll teach you anyway for taking advice from usenet!

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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:12:24 +0100, Matt Probert
wrote:

> Once upon a time, far far away "ship" spluttered
>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Any views on Anti-Virus software?!
>
> Never use it. Or rather, every so often, perhaps once a year, I use
> http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ to do a scan. mainly for spyware.
>
> Rather I rely on *not* accepting emails with attachments from people I
> don't know.
>
> I never allow email attachments to be auto-converted/executed.
>
> And I don't use pirate software.
>
> No problems.

Looks like we have a quorum

However, as Steve Sobol indicated elsewhere in this thread, when you
manage systems that others have access to the situation is slightly
different.

--
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 00:41:27 UTC, Twisted One
wrote:

-> Mark Dodel wrote:
-> > Its crossplatform (Windows, Linux and OS/2).
->
-> Why would you ever deploy it on linux? In case the RTM worm makes a
-> comeback exploiting a new sendmail hole? How often is there a new
-> virus/worm on unix anyway -- about once a decade?
->

For the same reason I use it on OS/2, to catch any win32 virus before
the chance of accidentally sending it to someone that is unfortunate
enough to run windoze. Yes you are protected for the most part, but
you never know. Maybe some day a microsoft programmer will finally
figure out how to write a Linux virus.

Mark

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Once upon a time, far far away "ship" spluttered

>WRONG!
>The advice on this NG has been somewhat disasterous.

Er, not the advice from Els, Charles and myself, though.....

Matt

--
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http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com

Once upon a time, far far away "William Tasso"
spluttered

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:12:24 +0100, Matt Probert
> wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time, far far away "ship" spluttered
>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Any views on Anti-Virus software?!
>>
>> Never use it. Or rather, every so often, perhaps once a year, I use
>> http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ to do a scan. mainly for spyware.
>>
>> Rather I rely on *not* accepting emails with attachments from people I
>> don't know.
>>
>> I never allow email attachments to be auto-converted/executed.
>>
>> And I don't use pirate software.
>>
>> No problems.
>
>Looks like we have a quorum
>
>However, as Steve Sobol indicated elsewhere in this thread, when you
>manage systems that others have access to the situation is slightly
>different.

I was only talking about my own office environment. I have been
repsonsible in the past for larger environments. The principles were
the same.

Matt

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I use nod32 and Google desktop and I get the error message you
described but have noticed that it does not seem to have and adverse
effects on Google.

Used the free avg for a while then paid them the $35 for 2 years. The
paid one does things automaticly like downloading when it sees an
internet connection. Worth the $35 IMHO

John of Aix wrote:
> ship wrote:
> > And someone in my office is recommending AVG... any views?!
>
> I've used it for years, free updates, never had the slightest problem
> and doesn't gobble resources, unlike Norton as you've discovered.

> 3. Kasperky
> Seems rather bloated.

Compare it to Nortons !

> And slow!

The phrase you`re looking for is "effective" - compare it to Nortons

> It's been running for an hour and a half and it's only managed to scan
> about a third (36%) of my computer!

Once a full scan it complete you shouldn't need to do one often (if at
all)

> But It has now found 880 viruses on my computer

You need to have a think on how you pre-vet your incoming email, and
whether you should be downloading much of it at all.

Consider Mailwasher - i`ve got some of the original unrestricted betas
and some filters available online at http://www.coreutilities.co.uk along
with some instructions on how to craft them for your own system.

> That'll be another 2 .5 hours then. [deep sigh!]

After the months you spent amassing this crap, you begrudge the one
program that`s sorting it all out for you a couple of hours :-}

> Call me a light-weight but I have to say that I do wish my Anti-Virus
> software would actually take action against my incoming viruses

Kaspersky is damn good in this respect. Believe me.

You may find it also stops some malicious web code in its tracks which is
an added bonus (iframe exploits IIRC)

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On 1 Apr 2005 02:42:36 -0800, "ship" wrote:

>WRONG!
>The advice on this NG has been somewhat disasterous.
>
>1. Hell's Teeth!
>NOD32 turns out to be incompatible with Google Desktop Search (which is
>one of my most useful applications!)
>I uninstalled Google Desktop and re-installed with the latest version
>of Google Desktop. Still no good.
>Right I guess that's the end of NOD32
>....
>Ship
>Shiperton Henethe

On Googles website at
http://desktop.google.com/support/bi...y?answer=17053 , they
note that Google's Desktop Search is incompatible with NOD32 and that
Google is working on the solution.

Now, the question I have is: would you rather have an antivirus
program that examines files for viruses as they are opened, or one
that lets the files be opened without examination.

To me, the answer is "I'll wait for Google to get its Desktop Search
resolved." I have been very happy with NOD32, it's small footprint,
its updates and its unobtrusiveness -- unlike some big-name antivirus
companies' products.

Terry
Visit my computer tips, coffee pages, forums and more at:
http://www.terrystockdale.com

ship wrote:

> I am nervous about using anything that is completely free (if you pay
> peanuts...)

By that "logic", windoze (for which you do not pay peanuts) ought to be a
lot more stable than Linux / BSD's (for which you pay nothing unless you
buy support)

> This Mailwasher?
> "Mailwasher Pro Personal Anti Spam Software From Firetrust"
> http://www.firetrust.com/products/pro/

No, the version before Firetrust took it over as a commercial product.

> The same Mailwasher sold by the alleged anti-spam and anti-virus experts
> above who bounced *a completely intact* copy[1] of W32/Lovgate.X@mm worm
> to my address which had been forged as the sender and sent to a bad
> address on their system? That Mailwasher?

Firetrust / Mailwasher can`t be held responsible for the actions of a
clueless user who doesn`t understand that most spam contains spoofed
headers - although it would be a good idea to disallow the bouncing of
emails permanently given its prevalence in spam rather than encouraging
pointless net traffic.

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"ship" delighted us to no end by taking a
lime green crayon and scribbling in
news:1112273609.354011.137280@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com, on
the hallowed day of Thu 31 Mar 2005 04:53:29a:

>
> Hi
>
> Any views on Anti-Virus software?!
> (to run on 512MB, Pentium4 1.7MHz - Windows2000 Pro)
>
> - I tried Norton and find it expensive, slows my PC down to a
> crawl, and Norton were VERY slow to respond when one of their
> patches screwed up my computer (all right-clicking was
> disabled!)
>
> - I tried McAfee (v7 Pro) and found it's HAWK fought with
> my Sony Ericsson P900 / P910i software ("PC Suite v3.2)
>
> Other folks have recommended Kaspersky and NOD32.
>
> I am nervous about using anything that is completely free (if
> you pay peanuts...)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
>

Avast!

It's good, it's freeware, and it runs seemlessly. Never once a
problem/system crash.

I'd avoid Norton (and Panda) like the plague.

--
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Reason #1 Why blondes make the best hackers:
"Oh, were those ports I was scanning *yours*???? I'm so sorry, I'm
still learning how to work this silly machine and I must have just
pressed the wrong button....um, yeah...84 times...it will *never*
happen again. Oh, btw, did you know your VISA card is over limit?"

"ship" wrote in message
news:1112273609.354011.137280@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

> Any suggestions?

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, so please forgive me if this is
repeating something already said.

I use Cloudmark Safetybar for Outlook Express. It uses almost overhead
and catches 99% of the spam. Maybe more. Weakness is that you gotta be
using Outlook or Outlook Express and it's not free. You can google around
and find discounts however. I've also used in the past, McAfee, Norton,
and Panda and found most of them take up too many resources and ONE of them
really messes with your machine big-time..

On 31 Mar 2005 04:53:29 -0800, ship wrote:

> Hi
>
> Any views on Anti-Virus software?!
> (to run on 512MB, Pentium4 1.7MHz - Windows2000 Pro)
>
> - I tried Norton and find it expensive, slows my PC down to a crawl,
> and Norton were VERY slow to respond when one of their patches screwed
> up my computer (all right-clicking was disabled!)
>
> - I tried McAfee (v7 Pro) and found it's HAWK fought with
> my Sony Ericsson P900 / P910i software ("PC Suite v3.2)
>
> Other folks have recommended Kaspersky and NOD32.
>
> I am nervous about using anything that is completely free (if you pay
> peanuts...)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe


Try all of them if you're experiencing some weird behaviour of two you
already mentioned. Everyone's mileage may vary and people have different
setups with different apps. So the best advice is use the way that's break
anything on your system. Norton works fine for me and it doesn't disable
rigth clicks.


Karim
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BruceB wrote:
> "ship" wrote in message
> news:1112273609.354011.137280@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>>Any suggestions?
>
>
> I haven't read all the posts in this thread, so please forgive me if this is
> repeating something already said.
>
> I use Cloudmark Safetybar for Outlook Express. It uses almost overhead
> and catches 99% of the spam. Maybe more. Weakness is that you gotta be
> using Outlook or Outlook Express and it's not free.

Thunderbird is. Ditch OE and get Thunderbird and any spam killing
extensions you wish.

> I've also used in the past, McAfee, Norton, and Panda and found most of
> them take up too many resources and ONE of them really messes with your
> machine big-time.

Actually ALL of them take up too many resources and at least TWO of them
really mess with your machine.

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"One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them
One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them."

On 2005-04-01 03:12:24 -0500, comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt
Probert) said:

>> Hi
>>
>> Any views on Anti-Virus software?!

OS X is about the best you'll find.