On 02 Nov 2008 06:31:02 GMT, scassa15 wrote:
> Resignation: I'm surrendering to KDE4.x, because it will be however the
> Kde's future.
> But now as now I know nothing of the new desktop environment, Dolphin and
> its rules, the plasmoids, the panel above all and its widgets who change
> as want, unconfigurable and unattainable as an eel, and all the other
> novelties: a disaster, GRRRR!

I can commiserate with that. I was finally able to create my second
Activity desktop by watching a Youtube video. Lo and behold, it did not work
like I thought it should.

I bookmarked these for newbies. Ignore quality and sound, if any.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhODrJkoidA # ZUI demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpf_Snc4DI&NR=1 # Effects of KDE4.1 Beta2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kk73...eature=related # Using the Folder View
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9St0P...eature=related # new panel-less kde plasma desktop layout

Il Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:22:12 +0000, Bit Twister ha scritto:

> I can commiserate with that. I was finally able to create my second
> Activity desktop by watching a Youtube video. Lo and behold, it did not
> work like I thought it should.
>
> I bookmarked these for newbies. Ignore quality and sound, if any.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhODrJkoidA # ZUI demo
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpf_Snc4DI&NR=1 # Effects of
> KDE4.1 Beta2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kk73...eature=related
> # Using the Folder View
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9St0P...eature=related # new
> panel-less kde plasma desktop layout

Tnx, I'm going to look

Bit Twister wrote:
> On 02 Nov 2008 06:31:02 GMT, scassa15 wrote:
>> Resignation: I'm surrendering to KDE4.x, because it will be however the
>> Kde's future.
>> But now as now I know nothing of the new desktop environment, Dolphin and
>> its rules, the plasmoids, the panel above all and its widgets who change
>> as want, unconfigurable and unattainable as an eel, and all the other
>> novelties: a disaster, GRRRR!
>
> I can commiserate with that. I was finally able to create my second
> Activity desktop by watching a Youtube video. Lo and behold, it did not work
> like I thought it should.
>
> I bookmarked these for newbies. Ignore quality and sound, if any.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhODrJkoidA # ZUI demo
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpf_Snc4DI&NR=1 # Effects of KDE4.1 Beta2
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kk73...eature=related # Using the Folder View
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9St0P...eature=related # new panel-less kde plasma desktop layout

Oh, great, this is what I get for playing when I don't have a clue about
what I'm doing. Just to see what would happen, I "zoomed out," and
clicked on "add activity." OK, that's cute, but for right now I'd like
to remove it again, 'cause I don't have the RAM for that sort of thing.
So I start looking around, and there's no "Remove Activity" button or
function or whatever that I can find. Good thing I didn't go wild with
creating these things.

Why would anybody release something like this that can be activated, but
not shut off? Sigh. Does anybody have a clue, because I sure don't -
just like I don't have a clue about how to shut the unwanted activity off.

BTW, while KDE 3.5 and Mandriva 2008.1 worked fine with my Athlon XP
1900+ and 512MB of RAM, KDE 4.0 feels... sluggish in comparison. I guess
it's time to boost my RAM to the 2GB this motherboard can handle. Sigh.
Good thing prices have fallen since the last time I looked.

TJ

On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:02:40 -0500, TJ wrote:

> Oh, great, this is what I get for playing when I don't have a clue about
> what I'm doing. Just to see what would happen, I "zoomed out," and
> clicked on "add activity." OK, that's cute, but for right now I'd like
> to remove it again, 'cause I don't have the RAM for that sort of thing.
> So I start looking around, and there's no "Remove Activity" button or
> function or whatever that I can find. Good thing I didn't go wild with
> creating these things.

How rude, you are correct. Guess you have to look through ~/.kde4 to
see where they hide the Activity sets.


> Why would anybody release something like this that can be activated, but
> not shut off? Sigh. Does anybody have a clue, because I sure don't -
> just like I don't have a clue about how to shut the unwanted activity off.

Heheheh, that is why I have a junk user account. I log into junk, play
around and good changes go into bittwister's settings.

When I screw up junk, I delete/create junk and play some more.

> BTW, while KDE 3.5 and Mandriva 2008.1 worked fine with my Athlon XP
> 1900+ and 512MB of RAM, KDE 4.0 feels... sluggish in comparison. I guess
> it's time to boost my RAM to the 2GB this motherboard can handle. Sigh.
> Good thing prices have fallen since the last time I looked.

Yep, boosted my 1 gig to 3 gig of memory.
Installed a virtual machine and now can boot whatever
distribution/release in about 6 seconds and still run my "Production" install.

See http://virtualbox.org

Bit Twister wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:02:40 -0500, TJ wrote:
>
>> Oh, great, this is what I get for playing when I don't have a clue about
>> what I'm doing. Just to see what would happen, I "zoomed out," and
>> clicked on "add activity." OK, that's cute, but for right now I'd like
>> to remove it again, 'cause I don't have the RAM for that sort of thing.
>> So I start looking around, and there's no "Remove Activity" button or
>> function or whatever that I can find. Good thing I didn't go wild with
>> creating these things.
>
> How rude, you are correct. Guess you have to look through ~/.kde4 to
> see where they hide the Activity sets.
>
>
>> Why would anybody release something like this that can be activated, but
>> not shut off? Sigh. Does anybody have a clue, because I sure don't -
>> just like I don't have a clue about how to shut the unwanted activity off.
>
> Heheheh, that is why I have a junk user account. I log into junk, play
> around and good changes go into bittwister's settings.
>
> When I screw up junk, I delete/create junk and play some more.
>
AHA! Found it! And I found it in, of all places, the KDE 4 Techbase:

http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ

Thing is, though, there was a familiar thread running through the sites
Google directed me to before I hit the right search phrase. A number of
folks in many distros are of the opinion that KDE 4 isn't quite ready
for general release yet. I haven't used it enough to form a personal
opinion, so I won't add my two cents, except to say that I think they
should have made removing activities as easy as adding them.

TJ

Bit Twister wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:02:40 -0500, TJ wrote:
>

>> BTW, while KDE 3.5 and Mandriva 2008.1 worked fine with my Athlon XP
>> 1900+ and 512MB of RAM, KDE 4.0 feels... sluggish in comparison. I guess
>> it's time to boost my RAM to the 2GB this motherboard can handle. Sigh.
>> Good thing prices have fallen since the last time I looked.
>
> Yep, boosted my 1 gig to 3 gig of memory.
> Installed a virtual machine and now can boot whatever
> distribution/release in about 6 seconds and still run my "Production" install.
>
> See http://virtualbox.org

Newegg has a PNY 2G kit that should work for me for around $46 US. I
need PC2100 DDR, and this PC3200 DDR is supposed to be
backward-compatible. Let's hope. There's lots cheaper stuff around, but
that high-density stuff probably won't work with my motherboard. It was
more than twice as much last January.

I'm hoping that with more RAM the Windows apps I still use will run
better with Crossover. For example, maybe vlc(Windows) won't be as jerky
when I play that mp4 video that won't play on any Linux app I've tried.

Then maybe, just maybe, I can dump Windows itself for good.

TJ