On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:11:35 +1000, none wrote:

> Mandriva has just asked me if I want to upgrade to 2009. There's an
> applet running in my system tray that I assume will to it automagically
> for me if I say yes. Or will it? Does anyone know if this thing will be
> reliable?
>
> I've already downloaded the DVD anyway, so not sure if it is worth it.
>
> Lionel.

You can stop this by changing this line,

DO_NOT_ASK_FOR_DISTRO_UPGRADE=true

to true, in the /etc/sysconfig/mdkapplet file

HTH

Fred

Fred wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:11:35 +1000, none wrote:
>
>> Mandriva has just asked me if I want to upgrade to 2009. There's an
>> applet running in my system tray that I assume will to it automagically
>> for me if I say yes. Or will it? Does anyone know if this thing will be
>> reliable?
>>
>> I've already downloaded the DVD anyway, so not sure if it is worth it.
>>
>> Lionel.
>
> You can stop this by changing this line,
>
> DO_NOT_ASK_FOR_DISTRO_UPGRADE=true
>
> to true, in the /etc/sysconfig/mdkapplet file
>
> HTH
>
> Fred.

If you have the DVD, using that will be faster and perhaps more reliable
than by downloading the packages. I haven't got the bandwidth to do it
except from CDs/DVD.

There is a body of opinion to the effect that it is better to run the DVD
and tell it that you are doing a fresh install, keeping your existing
partition structure. If your / and /usr are on separate partitions, they
will be all that is overwritten. I am biased on that one - I have never
had a satisfactory upgrade, even from a CD.

Mdv 2009 installs KDE4. If you are a KDE user, there are some notes on the
Wiki about protecting your KDE 3 settings.

HTH,

Doug.
--
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without
accepting it.
- Aristotle.

Doug Laidlaw wrote:

> Fred wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:11:35 +1000, none wrote:
>>
>>> Mandriva has just asked me if I want to upgrade to 2009. There's an
>>> applet running in my system tray that I assume will to it automagically
>>> for me if I say yes. Or will it? Does anyone know if this thing will be
>>> reliable?
>>>
>>> I've already downloaded the DVD anyway, so not sure if it is worth it.
>>>
>>> Lionel.
>>
>> You can stop this by changing this line,
>>
>> DO_NOT_ASK_FOR_DISTRO_UPGRADE=true
>>
>> to true, in the /etc/sysconfig/mdkapplet file
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Fred.
>
> If you have the DVD, using that will be faster and perhaps more reliable
> than by downloading the packages. I haven't got the bandwidth to do it
> except from CDs/DVD.
>
> There is a body of opinion to the effect that it is better to run the DVD
> and tell it that you are doing a fresh install, keeping your existing
> partition structure. If your / and /usr are on separate partitions, they
> will be all that is overwritten. I am biased on that one - I have never
> had a satisfactory upgrade, even from a CD.
>
> Mdv 2009 installs KDE4. If you are a KDE user, there are some notes on
> the Wiki about protecting your KDE 3 settings.
>
> HTH,
>
> Doug.

This popped up for me last night. Like the OP, I had already burned CDs, but
thought, 'what the hell' and gave it a go. So far, things seem OK. It kept
my KDE3. So far one hiccup: I see html code in certain parts of pages, e.g.
in www.mandriva.com/en/community/start I only see the raw code in the box
above 'Forums' and 'Security and updates', and if I open new (blank) tab in
Konqueror I
get " ".
Looks like View Mode>Advanced Text Editor is et by default; changing to
Khtml gives the message 'Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
Klauncher said unknown protocol ".'

What's happened?

Chris

> If you have the DVD, using that will be faster and perhaps more reliable
> than by downloading the packages. I haven't got the bandwidth to do it
> except from CDs/DVD.
>
> There is a body of opinion to the effect that it is better to run the
> DVD and tell it that you are doing a fresh install, keeping your
> existing partition structure. If your / and /usr are on separate
> partitions, they will be all that is overwritten. I am biased on that
> one - I have never had a satisfactory upgrade, even from a CD.
>
> Mdv 2009 installs KDE4. If you are a KDE user, there are some notes on
> the Wiki about protecting your KDE 3 settings.
>
> HTH,
>
> Doug.


This download offer for 2009, will it launch an install and attempt to do
an upgrade or is it an iso file you can burn to disk and install
whenever? I never do upgrades. I usually grab a new hard drive and
install clean, keeping the previous hard drive intact in case I need to
go back to it and I don't use KDE at all.
--
Registered Linux User #267152

none wrote:

> Mandriva has just asked me if I want to upgrade to 2009. There's an
> applet running in my system tray that I assume will to it automagically
> for me if I say yes. Or will it? Does anyone know if this thing will be
> reliable?
>
> I've already downloaded the DVD anyway, so not sure if it is worth it.
>
> Lionel.

http://www.mandriva.com/en/mandriva-...fetime-policy/

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:11:35 +1000, none wrote:
> Mandriva has just asked me if I want to upgrade to 2009. There's an
> applet running in my system tray that I assume will to it automagically
> for me if I say yes. Or will it? Does anyone know if this thing will be
> reliable?

Usually asked by someone who does not have backups and/or has not
kept an admin diary of their modifications/settings.

What would you do if your disk died as you read this reply?

> I've already downloaded the DVD anyway, so not sure if it is worth it.

I have separate partitions I use for testing/installing new updates/releases.

I always do a clean install. That way I can fallback to the running
system if something goes bad. Once I am satisfied with the new
install, the old partition becomes the new test partition.

Have you looked through
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Notes
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Errata

Bit Twister wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:11:35 +1000, none wrote:
>> Mandriva has just asked me if I want to upgrade to 2009. There's an
>> applet running in my system tray that I assume will to it automagically
>> for me if I say yes. Or will it? Does anyone know if this thing will be
>> reliable?
>
> Usually asked by someone who does not have backups and/or has not
> kept an admin diary of their modifications/settings.
>
> What would you do if your disk died as you read this reply?

That's a false assumption and I resent it.


>> I've already downloaded the DVD anyway, so not sure if it is worth it.
>
> I have separate partitions I use for testing/installing new updates/releases.
>
> I always do a clean install. That way I can fallback to the running
> system if something goes bad. Once I am satisfied with the new
> install, the old partition becomes the new test partition.

I'm glad to hear it.

> Have you looked through
> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Notes
> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Errata

I am now to see if it answers my question.

Thanks

Lionel.

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:30:51 +1000, none wrote:
> Bit Twister wrote:
>> Usually asked by someone who does not have backups and/or has not
>> kept an admin diary of their modifications/settings.
>>
>> What would you do if your disk died as you read this reply?
>
> That's a false assumption and I resent it.

No need to resent it. I usually write to the lurkers and not just to
the poster. :-)


>> Have you looked through
>> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Notes
>> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Errata
>
> I am now to see if it answers my question.

I'm glad to hear it.

Very few people would know your hardware/software requirements and
their success/failure may not match yours.

I have seen upgrades from .0 to .1 work in the past for the great
majority and yet one or two people had pesky problems which went away
when they did a clean install.

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:44:34 +0000, JTJersey wrote:

>> If you have the DVD, using that will be faster and perhaps more
>> reliable than by downloading the packages. I haven't got the bandwidth
>> to do it except from CDs/DVD.
>>
>> There is a body of opinion to the effect that it is better to run the
>> DVD and tell it that you are doing a fresh install, keeping your
>> existing partition structure. If your / and /usr are on separate
>> partitions, they will be all that is overwritten. I am biased on that
>> one - I have never had a satisfactory upgrade, even from a CD.
>>
>> Mdv 2009 installs KDE4. If you are a KDE user, there are some notes on
>> the Wiki about protecting your KDE 3 settings.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Doug.
>
>
> This download offer for 2009, will it launch an install and attempt to
> do an upgrade or is it an iso file you can burn to disk and install
> whenever? I never do upgrades. I usually grab a new hard drive and
> install clean, keeping the previous hard drive intact in case I need to
> go back to it and I don't use KDE at all.


Took my life in my hands and told it to update to 2009. It changes the
repositories then updates the whole system, 1400+ packages in my case.

Only hiccup was it screwed my Xserver. So I ran drakx11 as root, it
prompted me to download the proprietary NVidia driver, downloaded the
kernel headers, rebuilt the kernel module and all is sunshine and light!

Even rebuilt the VirtualBox kernel module on the first reboot.

Now have KDE 3.5 with all settings intact. Need to find out if I can
select KDE 3 or 4 at the login screen and download the right packages.

Regards
Gordon

Bit Twister wrote:
>>> Have you looked through
>>> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Notes
>>> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Errata
>> I am now to see if it answers my question.
>
> I'm glad to hear it.
>
> Very few people would know your hardware/software requirements and
> their success/failure may not match yours.
>
> I have seen upgrades from .0 to .1 work in the past for the great
> majority and yet one or two people had pesky problems which went away
> when they did a clean install.

The release notes sell the way it is supposed to work. I think I will
stick with doing a clean install so I don't have to mess around the way
a few others have reported.

Thanks

Lionel.