On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:02:54 -0700, Eric wrote:
> Why does konqueror go to earthlink when it cant get a response from a page?

I'll guess the DNS nameservers you are using are providing that "Feature"
Some ISP have started doing that to increase ad revenue.

Bit Twister wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:02:54 -0700, Eric wrote:
>> Why does konqueror go to earthlink when it cant get a response from a
>> page?
>
> I'll guess the DNS nameservers you are using are providing that "Feature"
> Some ISP have started doing that to increase ad revenue.
ok, thanks. I guess there's no way to remedy that then since its in the
nameservers hands, unless... i suppose i could find a different nameserver
ip to use
Eric

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:35:16 -0700, Eric wrote:
> Bit Twister wrote:

>> I'll guess the DNS nameservers you are using are providing that "Feature"
>> Some ISP have started doing that to increase ad revenue.
> ok, thanks. I guess there's no way to remedy that then since its in the
> nameservers hands, unless... i suppose i could find a different nameserver
> ip to use

I had switched from verizon's servers for the same reason.
I use opendns.org free servers. I see the same kind of thing there but
at least I will trust their servers over verizon's since opendsn runs
theirs as a business.

On 2008-09-24, Bit Twister wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:35:16 -0700, Eric wrote:
>> Bit Twister wrote:
>
>>> I'll guess the DNS nameservers you are using are providing that "Feature"
>>> Some ISP have started doing that to increase ad revenue.
>> ok, thanks. I guess there's no way to remedy that then since its in the
>> nameservers hands, unless... i suppose i could find a different nameserver
>> ip to use
>
> I had switched from verizon's servers for the same reason.
> I use opendns.org free servers. I see the same kind of thing there but
> at least I will trust their servers over verizon's since opendsn runs
> theirs as a business.

At least with Verizon, there is an option to opt out of the
"assistance" for failed DNS lookups. Basically, you set
your systems to use different DNS servers. I think the
difference is the last octet in the IP address is 12 rather
than 14.

Editorial comment: In the old days, being an ISP implied
providing Usenet news servers, DNS, and a bunch of other
things along with packet forwarding. Now, in addition to
paying an "ISP", we're having to find Usenet news services
elsewhere, find DNS elsewhere, etc. When the "ISP"s
eventually require their customers to go elsewhere to find a
service that will forward their packets to the intended
destination, how much will the "ISP" still charge (for doing
nothing)?

--
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@verizon.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

Eric wrote:

> Why does konqueror go to earthlink when it cant get a response from a
> page? I noticed this after i re-installed 2008.1 x86_64

Check with Earthlink, most of the other ISP's that have begun using their
own error pages with adverts by default also have a opt-out page with
settings needed to switch. It may even be on the error pages if you look
real close?
--
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On 25 Sep 2008 03:56:08 GMT, Robert Riches wrote:

> At least with Verizon, there is an option to opt out of the
> "assistance" for failed DNS lookups. Basically, you set
> your systems to use different DNS servers.

Yep, found out about that when it first came out, changed the last
octet in the router. Lasted about a week before they change the octet
back. Permanent solution, set opendns dns in my resolver.

On 2008-09-25, Bit Twister wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2008 03:56:08 GMT, Robert Riches wrote:
>
>> At least with Verizon, there is an option to opt out of the
>> "assistance" for failed DNS lookups. Basically, you set
>> your systems to use different DNS servers.
>
> Yep, found out about that when it first came out, changed the last
> octet in the router. Lasted about a week before they change the octet
> back. Permanent solution, set opendns dns in my resolver.

After hearing about DNS poisoning of router/NAT boxes, I
decided to run named alias bind on each Linux machine and
put the .14 DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf. Verizon has
yet to change my /etc/resolv.conf files. :-)

--
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@verizon.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

Patrick Phillips wrote:

> Eric wrote:
>
>> Why does konqueror go to earthlink when it cant get a response from a
>> page? I noticed this after i re-installed 2008.1 x86_64
>
> Check with Earthlink, most of the other ISP's that have begun using their
> own error pages with adverts by default also have a opt-out page with
> settings needed to switch. It may even be on the error pages if you look
> real close?

Yeh, except i am on comcast not earthlink. Maybe they have 'an agreement'

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:31:04 -0700
Eric wrote:

> Yea, except i am on comcast not earthlink. Maybe they have 'an
> agreement'

I don't know if Comcast has a opt-out but here with Verizon we do,
it just involves changing to a different DNS server owned by your ISP,
or what some have did is change to OpenDNS they are free, always fast,
and easy to use.

--
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Latitude: 40.48*
Longitude: -88.95*

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:31:04 -0700, Eric wrote:
> Patrick Phillips wrote:
>> Eric wrote:
>>
>>> Why does konqueror go to earthlink when it cant get a response from a
>>> page? I noticed this after i re-installed 2008.1 x86_64
>>
>> Check with Earthlink, most of the other ISP's that have begun using their
>> own error pages with adverts by default also have a opt-out page with
>> settings needed to switch. It may even be on the error pages if you look
>> real close?
>
> Yeh, except i am on comcast not earthlink. Maybe they have 'an agreement'


$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
search IBMPEERS

# QWEST.......
nameserver 205.171.2.65
nameserver 205.171.3.65

# LEVEL 3
# nameserver 4.2.2.1
# nameserver 4.2.2.4

$

Use ping or traceroute to determine which path(s) are best for you.
I've been using this ever since moving here and being stuck with Comcast
for interet access. Prior to that, I was stuck with Qwest DSL for
better-than-dial-up access, and the LEVEL 3 DN servers worked best.
All-in-all, I think It's A Good Thing that your ISP can't log your
domain name lookup activity.

Alternately, Googling for [ip resolver OR "domain name server"] may lead
you to other, better choices.

HTH
Jonesy
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Allodoxaphobia wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:31:04 -0700, Eric wrote:
>> Patrick Phillips wrote:
>>> Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why does konqueror go to earthlink when it cant get a response from a
>>>> page? I noticed this after i re-installed 2008.1 x86_64
>>>
>>> Check with Earthlink, most of the other ISP's that have begun using
>>> their own error pages with adverts by default also have a opt-out page
>>> with settings needed to switch. It may even be on the error pages if you
>>> look real close?
>>
>> Yeh, except i am on comcast not earthlink. Maybe they have 'an agreement'
>
>
> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
> search IBMPEERS
>
> # QWEST.......
> nameserver 205.171.2.65
> nameserver 205.171.3.65
>
> # LEVEL 3
> # nameserver 4.2.2.1
> # nameserver 4.2.2.4
>
> $
>
> Use ping or traceroute to determine which path(s) are best for you.
> I've been using this ever since moving here and being stuck with Comcast
> for interet access. Prior to that, I was stuck with Qwest DSL for
> better-than-dial-up access, and the LEVEL 3 DN servers worked best.
> All-in-all, I think It's A Good Thing that your ISP can't log your
> domain name lookup activity.
>
> Alternately, Googling for [ip resolver OR "domain name server"] may lead
> you to other, better choices.
>
> HTH
> Jonesy
Excellent! that fixes that problem :-)
Thanks
Eric