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  1. Tables are not printed properly

    Hello,

    I run Mandriva 2008 both on Desktop and Laptop that is connected by a
    wireless router. I remotely access my Wep 800 DX dot matrix printer
    (parallel port connected to the desktop) via the CUPS server. The
    printer has Epson 9pin generic driver.

    this is the result of uname -a:

    Linux localhost 2.6.24.4-desktop586-1mnb #1 SMP Thu Mar 27 14:20:33
    CET 2008 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57 GNU/Linux

    All text print perfectly in any applied font from all document formats
    (.pdf, .odt, .ps, .doc etc) but its only the tables that are
    completely messed up when printed, I have uploaded a photo of the same
    here>http://www.sindhu-s.com/tables.jpg

    One of my friend suggested me to look for the option of printing "tabs
    as spaces" but I did not find any such option in OpenOffice (have i
    missed ? please direct me to it, if so).

    I googled up for this but nothing relevant came up.

    Any ideas?

  2. Re: Tables are not printed properly

    On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I run Mandriva 2008 both on Desktop and Laptop that is connected by a
    > wireless router. I remotely access my Wep 800 DX dot matrix printer
    > (parallel port connected to the desktop) via the CUPS server. The
    > printer has Epson 9pin generic driver.


    How old is the printer? Where did the driver come from?

    > this is the result of uname -a:
    >
    > Linux localhost 2.6.24.4-desktop586-1mnb #1 SMP Thu Mar 27 14:20:33
    > CET 2008 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57 GNU/Linux
    >
    > All text print perfectly in any applied font from all document formats
    > (.pdf, .odt, .ps, .doc etc) but its only the tables that are
    > completely messed up when printed, I have uploaded a photo of the same
    > here>http://www.sindhu-s.com/tables.jpg
    >
    > One of my friend suggested me to look for the option of printing "tabs
    > as spaces" but I did not find any such option in OpenOffice (have i
    > missed ? please direct me to it, if so).


    I don't think the problem is related to fonts or characters; notice that
    some of the lines of text are split or mangled horizontally. That
    suggests to me that either the driver isn't correct for the hardware, or
    that the print-head is returning from the end of the line before it should
    - that could be down to dirt or wear or damage.

    Have you got a Linux driver for that printer? The maker's web site told
    me that no Linux drivers are available for download for 'high speed dot
    matrix printers' - and the model you named isn't listed at all.

    > I googled up for this but nothing relevant came up.
    >
    > Any ideas?


    I used Ask.com as well as Google's Linux search; I think it is relevant
    that people have posted in various forums that there are no Linux drivers
    for WeP printers. One suggestion I found was to run a Windows OS in a
    virtual machine so that the maker's official Windows driver can be used;
    an alternative might of course be to run a Windows OS on the machine you
    are using as a print server. Or of course get a new printer whose maker
    provides native Linux drivers.

    Perhaps the maker could help you


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    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~

  3. Re: Tables are not printed properly

    On Aug 2, 6:35*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    > On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:
    >
    > > Hello,

    >
    > > I run Mandriva 2008 both on Desktop and Laptop that is connected by a
    > > wireless router. I remotely access my Wep 800 DX dot matrix printer
    > > (parallel port connected to the desktop) via the CUPS server. The
    > > printer has Epson 9pin generic driver.

    >
    > How old is the printer? *Where did the driver come from?
    >
    > > this is the result of uname -a:

    >
    > > Linux localhost 2.6.24.4-desktop586-1mnb #1 SMP Thu Mar 27 14:20:33
    > > CET 2008 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57 GNU/Linux

    >
    > > All text print perfectly in any applied font from all document formats
    > > (.pdf, .odt, .ps, .doc etc) but its only the tables that are
    > > completely messed up when printed, I have uploaded a photo of the same
    > > here>http://www.sindhu-s.com/tables.jpg

    >
    > > One of my friend suggested me to look for the option of printing "tabs
    > > as spaces" but I did not find any such option in OpenOffice (have i
    > > missed ? please direct me to it, if so).

    >
    > I don't think the problem is related to fonts or characters; notice that
    > some of the lines of text are split or mangled horizontally. *That
    > suggests to me that either the driver isn't correct for the hardware, or
    > that the print-head is returning from the end of the line before it should
    > - that could be down to dirt or wear or damage.
    >
    > Have you got a Linux driver for that printer? *The maker's web site told
    > me that no Linux drivers are available for download for 'high speed dot
    > matrix printers' - and the model you named isn't listed at all.
    >
    > > I googled up for this but nothing relevant came up.

    >
    > > Any ideas?

    >
    > I used Ask.com as well as Google's Linux search; I think it is relevant
    > that people have posted in various forums that there are no Linux drivers
    > for WeP printers. *One suggestion I found was to run a Windows OS in a
    > virtual machine so that the maker's official Windows driver can be used;
    > an alternative might of course be to run a Windows OS on the machine you
    > are using as a print server. *Or of course get a new printer whose maker
    > provides native Linux drivers.
    >
    > Perhaps the maker could help you
    >
    >
    > --
    > -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    > -- *Whiskers
    > -- ~~~~~~~~~~


    Hello again,

    My printer is about 10 months old, I had bought it in November, 2007.
    The printer driver I am currently using is already provided in the
    CUPS administration page (So i assume this driver came bundled
    in)..and it is the only driver that prints properly, as in to say,
    works well with my printer, none of the others work for my printer.

    I must also disclose to you this detail that the printer that in April
    this year, I had the EPROM changed from its version 1.2 to the new one
    with 1.3 due to the old one having a bug on it that prevented me from
    giving printing command for a document with several pages (say more
    than 5). At that time, that is just when the EPROM was old, I had
    windows, and printing text and tables was perfectly alright, it was
    just the long multiple pages documents that was giving the problems.
    after the EPROM was changed I fully switched to OpenSUSE, in which too
    text and tables printed just fine.

    Then I recently switched to Mandriva and it is only in this system
    that am experiencing such strange problem. what baffles me is how can
    just one component not print properly?

    As for printer drivers, there is one provided on the printer driver CD
    that came along but of course it fails to works with CUPS so i cannot
    use it. I have checked on Linux Open Printing website, it is confirmed
    that there is no known working printer driver for linux from the
    manufacturers for this printer model ie. wep 800 dx.

    Since you suggested that printer head might be prematurely returning
    back from the end of the line, I am going to give "unidirection"
    printing a try...although am not sure if that option is available
    anywhere on CUPS.

    and that one suggestion to run windows on a virtual machine to get wep
    working was posted by me.>http://sindhu.tumblr.com/post/34313787/how-
    to-get-wep-800-dx-working-for-opensuse-linux. for that matter pretty
    much all the links that you'd find when you google for"wep 800 dx
    linux" i can guarantee is posted by me;/

  4. Re: Tables are not printed properly

    On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:
    > On Aug 2, 6:35*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    >> On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:


    [...]

    >
    > Hello again,
    >
    > My printer is about 10 months old, I had bought it in November, 2007.
    > The printer driver I am currently using is already provided in the
    > CUPS administration page (So i assume this driver came bundled
    > in)..and it is the only driver that prints properly, as in to say,
    > works well with my printer, none of the others work for my printer.
    >
    > I must also disclose to you this detail that the printer that in April
    > this year, I had the EPROM changed from its version 1.2 to the new one
    > with 1.3 due to the old one having a bug on it that prevented me from
    > giving printing command for a document with several pages (say more
    > than 5). At that time, that is just when the EPROM was old, I had
    > windows, and printing text and tables was perfectly alright, it was
    > just the long multiple pages documents that was giving the problems.
    > after the EPROM was changed I fully switched to OpenSUSE, in which too
    > text and tables printed just fine.
    >
    > Then I recently switched to Mandriva and it is only in this system
    > that am experiencing such strange problem. what baffles me is how can
    > just one component not print properly?


    Perhaps the packagers for OpenSuSE and Mandriva chose different
    drivers, or different compile-time options - some detective work seems to
    be called for.

    > As for printer drivers, there is one provided on the printer driver CD
    > that came along but of course it fails to works with CUPS so i cannot
    > use it. I have checked on Linux Open Printing website, it is confirmed
    > that there is no known working printer driver for linux from the
    > manufacturers for this printer model ie. wep 800 dx.


    Something worth asking the maker about?

    > Since you suggested that printer head might be prematurely returning
    > back from the end of the line, I am going to give "unidirection"
    > printing a try...although am not sure if that option is available
    > anywhere on CUPS.


    Certainly worth a try.

    It's a long time since I used a 9-pin dot matrix parallel printer;
    predating Mandriva, and almost predating Linux, in fact. But I can
    remember that 'dip switches' or 'jumpers' inside the printer could be used
    to control some aspects of the printer's behaviour - including 'emulation'
    of IBM Epson or HP models, and whether to use bi-directional graphics. But
    until now I'd never heard of WeP so I don't know what that maker's
    printers are like.

    > and that one suggestion to run windows on a virtual machine to get wep
    > working was posted by me.>http://sindhu.tumblr.com/post/34313787/how-
    > to-get-wep-800-dx-working-for-opensuse-linux.


    I noticed

    > for that matter pretty
    > much all the links that you'd find when you google for"wep 800 dx
    > linux" i can guarantee is posted by me;/


    As the printer seems to be a 'local' Indian product, it might be worth
    contacting your nearest 'Linux User Group' to see if there is any local
    knowledge relating to this printer.

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~

  5. Re: Tables are not printed properly

    On Aug 2, 11:25*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    > On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:
    >
    > > On Aug 2, 6:35*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    > >> On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:

    >
    > [...]
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > Hello again,

    >
    > > My printer is about 10 months old, I had bought it in November, 2007.
    > > The printer driver I am currently using is already provided in the
    > > CUPS administration page (So i assume this driver came bundled
    > > in)..and it is the only driver that prints properly, as in to say,
    > > works well with my printer, none of the others work for my printer.

    >
    > > I must also disclose to you this detail that the printer that in April
    > > this year, I had the EPROM changed from its version 1.2 to the new one
    > > with 1.3 due to the old one having a bug on it that prevented me from
    > > giving printing command for a document with several pages (say more
    > > than 5). At that time, that is just when the EPROM was old, I had
    > > windows, and printing text and tables was perfectly alright, it was
    > > just the long multiple pages documents that was giving the problems.
    > > after the EPROM was changed I fully switched to OpenSUSE, in which too
    > > text and tables printed just fine.

    >
    > > Then I recently switched to Mandriva and it is only in this system
    > > that am experiencing such strange problem. what baffles me is how can
    > > just one component not print properly?

    >
    > Perhaps the packagers for OpenSuSE and Mandriva chose different
    > drivers, or different compile-time options - some detective work seems to
    > be called for.
    >
    > > As for printer drivers, there is one provided on the printer driver CD
    > > that came along but of course it fails to works with CUPS so i cannot
    > > use it. I have checked on Linux Open Printing website, it is confirmed
    > > that there is no known working printer driver for linux from the
    > > manufacturers for this printer model ie. wep 800 dx.

    >
    > Something worth asking the maker about?
    >
    > > Since you suggested that printer head might be prematurely returning
    > > back from the end of the line, I am going to give "unidirection"
    > > printing a try...although am not sure if that option is available
    > > anywhere on CUPS.

    >
    > Certainly worth a try.
    >
    > It's a long time since I used a 9-pin dot matrix parallel printer;
    > predating Mandriva, and almost predating Linux, in fact. *But I can
    > remember that 'dip switches' or 'jumpers' inside the printer could be used
    > to control some aspects of the printer's behaviour - including 'emulation'
    > of IBM Epson or HP models, and whether to use bi-directional graphics. *But
    > until now I'd never heard of WeP so I don't know what that maker's
    > printers are like.
    >
    > > and that one suggestion to run windows on a virtual machine to get wep
    > > working was posted by me.>http://sindhu.tumblr.com/post/34313787/how-
    > > to-get-wep-800-dx-working-for-opensuse-linux. *

    >
    > I noticed *
    >
    > > for that matter pretty
    > > much all the links that you'd find when you google for"wep 800 dx
    > > linux" i can guarantee is posted by me;/

    >
    > As the printer seems to be a 'local' Indian product, it might be worth
    > contacting your nearest 'Linux User Group' to see if there is any local
    > knowledge relating to this printer.
    >
    > --
    > -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    > -- *Whiskers
    > -- ~~~~~~~~~~


    > Something worth asking the maker about?


    well this is exactly what i did when i had the printer working fine on
    opensuse ..called the product specialist at wep customer care (yes its
    an indian company).

    and I did not find the direction of printing option...

    but am setting up windows on vmware and checking out if this really is
    an issue with linux only or on windows too..cause i somehow feel there
    is something wrong with the new eprom...worth a check i guess.

    and there is a LUG for mangalore, india (where i am from) but they are
    inactive and they use Yahoo groups for their activities and discussion
    (ech!) i refuse to sign up for an account just so i could get into
    their group.

  6. Re: Tables are not printed properly

    On Aug 4, 12:19*am, Sindhu wrote:
    > On Aug 2, 11:25*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:

    >
    > > > On Aug 2, 6:35*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    > > >> On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:

    >
    > > [...]

    >
    > > > Hello again,

    >
    > > > My printer is about 10 months old, I had bought it in November, 2007.
    > > > The printer driver I am currently using is already provided in the
    > > > CUPS administration page (So i assume this driver came bundled
    > > > in)..and it is the only driver that prints properly, as in to say,
    > > > works well with my printer, none of the others work for my printer.

    >
    > > > I must also disclose to you this detail that the printer that in April
    > > > this year, I had the EPROM changed from its version 1.2 to the new one
    > > > with 1.3 due to the old one having a bug on it that prevented me from
    > > > giving printing command for a document with several pages (say more
    > > > than 5). At that time, that is just when the EPROM was old, I had
    > > > windows, and printing text and tables was perfectly alright, it was
    > > > just the long multiple pages documents that was giving the problems.
    > > > after the EPROM was changed I fully switched to OpenSUSE, in which too
    > > > text and tables printed just fine.

    >
    > > > Then I recently switched to Mandriva and it is only in this system
    > > > that am experiencing such strange problem. what baffles me is how can
    > > > just one component not print properly?

    >
    > > Perhaps the packagers for OpenSuSE and Mandriva chose different
    > > drivers, or different compile-time options - some detective work seems to
    > > be called for.

    >
    > > > As for printer drivers, there is one provided on the printer driver CD
    > > > that came along but of course it fails to works with CUPS so i cannot
    > > > use it. I have checked on Linux Open Printing website, it is confirmed
    > > > that there is no known working printer driver for linux from the
    > > > manufacturers for this printer model ie. wep 800 dx.

    >
    > > Something worth asking the maker about?

    >
    > > > Since you suggested that printer head might be prematurely returning
    > > > back from the end of the line, I am going to give "unidirection"
    > > > printing a try...although am not sure if that option is available
    > > > anywhere on CUPS.

    >
    > > Certainly worth a try.

    >
    > > It's a long time since I used a 9-pin dot matrix parallel printer;
    > > predating Mandriva, and almost predating Linux, in fact. *But I can
    > > remember that 'dip switches' or 'jumpers' inside the printer could be used
    > > to control some aspects of the printer's behaviour - including 'emulation'
    > > of IBM Epson or HP models, and whether to use bi-directional graphics. *But
    > > until now I'd never heard of WeP so I don't know what that maker's
    > > printers are like.

    >
    > > > and that one suggestion to run windows on a virtual machine to get wep
    > > > working was posted by me.>http://sindhu.tumblr.com/post/34313787/how-
    > > > to-get-wep-800-dx-working-for-opensuse-linux. *

    >
    > > I noticed *

    >
    > > > for that matter pretty
    > > > much all the links that you'd find when you google for"wep 800 dx
    > > > linux" i can guarantee is posted by me;/

    >
    > > As the printer seems to be a 'local' Indian product, it might be worth
    > > contacting your nearest 'Linux User Group' to see if there is any local
    > > knowledge relating to this printer.

    >
    > > --
    > > -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    > > -- *Whiskers
    > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~
    > > Something worth asking the maker about?

    >
    > well this is exactly what i did when i had the printer working fine on
    > opensuse ..called the product specialist at wep customer care (yes its
    > an indian company).
    >
    > and I did not find the direction of printing option...
    >
    > but am setting up windows on vmware and checking out if this really is
    > an issue with linux only or on windows too..cause i somehow feel there
    > is something wrong with the new eprom...worth a check i guess.
    >
    > and there is a LUG for mangalore, india (where i am from) but they are
    > inactive and they use Yahoo groups for their activities and discussion
    > (ech!) i refuse to sign up for an account just so i could get into
    > their group.

    Hello again,

    I had quite a couple of weeks, but that apart, i got to the printing
    business and found that its the dpi and strangely the ppd ive been
    using too. the epson 9pin high ppd worked just fine previously, only
    now at the 120 x n dpi the tables printing issue had come up.

    i switched over to epson ibm compatible ppd (which does not give me
    any option to set the dpi), printing is fine now. tables and images
    are printing properly, although am not satisfied with the dpi, the
    printing is just too "light" (am not sure if that's the right word,
    but its the best i can describe).

    -Sindhu

  7. Re: Tables are not printed properly

    On 2008-08-11, Sindhu wrote:
    > On Aug 4, 12:19*am, Sindhu wrote:
    >> On Aug 2, 11:25*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    >> > On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:
    >> > > On Aug 2, 6:35*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    >> > >> On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:

    [...]
    >
    > I had quite a couple of weeks, but that apart, i got to the printing
    > business and found that its the dpi and strangely the ppd ive been
    > using too. the epson 9pin high ppd worked just fine previously, only
    > now at the 120 x n dpi the tables printing issue had come up.
    >
    > i switched over to epson ibm compatible ppd (which does not give me
    > any option to set the dpi), printing is fine now. tables and images
    > are printing properly, although am not satisfied with the dpi, the
    > printing is just too "light" (am not sure if that's the right word,
    > but its the best i can describe).
    >
    > -Sindhu


    Have you got any settings for 'quality'? Feint printing usually indicates
    that you are using a 'draft' or 'economy' setting (or that the ribbon or
    ink pad or whatever is getting worn or the inkjets blocked). Failing any
    of those, all that's left is 'driver incompatibility' for your model of
    printer.

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~

  8. Re: Tables are not printed properly

    On Aug 12, 11:14*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    > On 2008-08-11, Sindhu wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Aug 4, 12:19*am, Sindhu wrote:
    > >> On Aug 2, 11:25*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    > >> > On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:
    > >> > > On Aug 2, 6:35*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    > >> > >> On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:

    > [...]
    >
    > > I had quite a couple of weeks, but that apart, i got to the printing
    > > business and found that its the dpi and strangely the ppd ive been
    > > using too. the epson 9pin high ppd worked just fine previously, only
    > > now at the 120 x n dpi the tables printing issue had come up.

    >
    > > i switched over to epson ibm compatible ppd (which does not give me
    > > any option to set the dpi), printing is fine now. tables and images
    > > are printing properly, although am not satisfied with the dpi, the
    > > printing is just too "light" (am not sure if that's the right word,
    > > but its the best i can describe).

    >
    > > -Sindhu

    >
    > Have you got any settings for 'quality'? *Feint printing usually indicates
    > that you are using a 'draft' or 'economy' setting (or that the ribbon or
    > ink pad or whatever is getting worn or the inkjets blocked). *Failing any
    > of those, all that's left is 'driver incompatibility' for your model of
    > printer.
    >
    > --
    > -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    > -- *Whiskers
    > -- ~~~~~~~~~~


    Well i checked, there doesn't seem to be any such "quality" settings.
    I changed the ribbon prints pretty decently now.

    Thank you for all the guidance, think it's time to close this thread.

  9. Re: Tables are not printed properly

    On 2008-08-14, Sindhu wrote:
    > On Aug 12, 11:14*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    >> On 2008-08-11, Sindhu wrote:
    >> > On Aug 4, 12:19*am, Sindhu wrote:
    >> >> On Aug 2, 11:25*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    >> >> > On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:
    >> >> > > On Aug 2, 6:35*pm, Whiskers wrote:
    >> >> > >> On 2008-08-02, Sindhu wrote:


    [...]

    >> Have you got any settings for 'quality'? *Feint printing usually indicates
    >> that you are using a 'draft' or 'economy' setting (or that the ribbon or
    >> ink pad or whatever is getting worn or the inkjets blocked). *Failing any
    >> of those, all that's left is 'driver incompatibility' for your model of
    >> printer.

    >
    > Well i checked, there doesn't seem to be any such "quality" settings.
    > I changed the ribbon prints pretty decently now.
    >
    > Thank you for all the guidance, think it's time to close this thread.


    You're welcome )

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~

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