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Old 06-04-2008, 09:56 PM
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I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program or
lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it possible
to roll it back to the version before it was updated
Thanks
Eric

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Old 06-04-2008, 10:56 PM
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Eric writes:

>I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program or
>lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it possible
>to roll it back to the version before it was updated
>Thanks
>Eric


Uninstall and reinstall the old version.


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Old 06-04-2008, 11:08 PM
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:56:02 -0400, Eric wrote:

> I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program or
> lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it possible
> to roll it back to the version before it was updated


If the rpm package urpmi-recover has been installed, the pre-update versions
will be saved in /var/spool/repackage, until you set a checkpoint, or manually
delete them. If you have the package installed, and forget about it, that
directory will get quite large. Installing them would require using the --force
option, in rpm.

Without the urpmi-recover package, you'll have to find the old rpm packages,
manually download them, and then install them, again, using rpm --force.

Which update do you want to rollback, and why? It may be better to see if
a workaround exists, for whatever problem the update is causing, and get
a bug report submitted.

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Old 06-05-2008, 04:14 AM
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David W. Hodgins wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:56:02 -0400, Eric wrote:
>
>> I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program or
>> lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it
>> possible to roll it back to the version before it was updated

>
> If the rpm package urpmi-recover has been installed, the pre-update versions
> will be saved in /var/spool/repackage, until you set a checkpoint, or
> manually
> delete them. If you have the package installed, and forget about it, that
> directory will get quite large. Installing them would require using the
> --force option, in rpm.
>
> Without the urpmi-recover package, you'll have to find the old rpm packages,
> manually download them, and then install them, again, using rpm --force.
>
> Which update do you want to rollback, and why? It may be better to see if
> a workaround exists, for whatever problem the update is causing, and get
> a bug report submitted.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

An update around May 11 caused me all kinds of problems, at least thats what
it looks like. I filed a bug and they are working on it, but I am not sure
its going to get solved, so i was thinking of alternatives(just in case).
Thanks
Eric

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Old 06-05-2008, 04:16 AM
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Unruh wrote:

> Eric writes:
>
>>I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program or
>>lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it
>>possible to roll it back to the version before it was updated
>>Thanks
>>Eric

>
> Uninstall and reinstall the old version.


That can be done if there arent dependencies, or if the dependencies can also
be un-installed and re-installed.
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Old 06-05-2008, 04:43 AM
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Eric writes:

>David W. Hodgins wrote:


>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:56:02 -0400, Eric wrote:
>>
>>> I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program or
>>> lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it
>>> possible to roll it back to the version before it was updated

>>
>> If the rpm package urpmi-recover has been installed, the pre-update versions
>> will be saved in /var/spool/repackage, until you set a checkpoint, or
>> manually
>> delete them. If you have the package installed, and forget about it, that
>> directory will get quite large. Installing them would require using the
>> --force option, in rpm.
>>
>> Without the urpmi-recover package, you'll have to find the old rpm packages,
>> manually download them, and then install them, again, using rpm --force.
>>
>> Which update do you want to rollback, and why? It may be better to see if
>> a workaround exists, for whatever problem the update is causing, and get
>> a bug report submitted.
>>
>> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>>

>An update around May 11 caused me all kinds of problems, at least thats what
>it looks like. I filed a bug and they are working on it, but I am not sure
>its going to get solved, so i was thinking of alternatives(just in case).
>Thanks
>Eric


Uninstall it and install the old one.


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Old 06-05-2008, 04:46 AM
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Eric writes:

>Unruh wrote:


>> Eric writes:
>>
>>>I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program or
>>>lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it
>>>possible to roll it back to the version before it was updated
>>>Thanks
>>>Eric

>>
>> Uninstall and reinstall the old version.


>That can be done if there arent dependencies, or if the dependencies can also
>be un-installed and re-installed.


Sure. or if you know it is package A.rpm, then do
rpm -e --nodeps Anew
rpm -i --nodeps Aold
assuming that the Aold will run with the new deps.

Or uninstall Anew and its deps. It is not that hard!


I am not sure why you are trying your damndest to make sure you do not do
something simple.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:37 PM
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:56:02 -0700, Eric wrote:

> I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program
> or lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it
> possible to roll it back to the version before it was updated Thanks


Using Either Mandriva Uninstall Tool or urpme command.
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:18 AM
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On 2008-06-05, Luan Pham wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:56:02 -0700, Eric wrote:
>
>> I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program
>> or lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it
>> possible to roll it back to the version before it was updated Thanks

>
> Using Either Mandriva Uninstall Tool or urpme command.


Another thing that can help if you ever need a roll-back is
to keep the output of "rpm -qa" in an RCS repository and
updated the RCS file whenever you install, remove, or update
anything. That will help you find _exactly_ what version of
everything to roll back to.

HTH

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Old 06-08-2008, 03:37 AM
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Eric wrote:

> David W. Hodgins wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:56:02 -0400, Eric wrote:
>>
>>> I know i can uninstall some program or lib or whatever, but if a program
>>> or lib (or whatever) gets updated via the regular mandriva tools, is it
>>> possible to roll it back to the version before it was updated

>>
>> If the rpm package urpmi-recover has been installed, the pre-update
>> versions will be saved in /var/spool/repackage, until you set a checkpoint,
>> or manually
>> delete them. If you have the package installed, and forget about it, that
>> directory will get quite large. Installing them would require using the
>> --force option, in rpm.
>>
>> Without the urpmi-recover package, you'll have to find the old rpm
>> packages, manually download them, and then install them, again, using rpm
>> --force.
>>
>> Which update do you want to rollback, and why? It may be better to see if
>> a workaround exists, for whatever problem the update is causing, and get
>> a bug report submitted.
>>
>> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>>

> An update around May 11 caused me all kinds of problems, at least thats what
> it looks like. I filed a bug and they are working on it, but I am not sure
> its going to get solved, so i was thinking of alternatives(just in case).
> Thanks
> Eric


Well, this is really weird, tonight my system is back to normal. all that was
broken is now working
Eric

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Old 06-08-2008, 07:20 AM
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On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:37:05 -0400, Eric wrote:

> Well, this is really weird, tonight my system is back to normal. all that was
> broken is now working
> Eric


Let me take a wild guess, that you are using Gnome. The most recent mandriva
update for the timezone package fixed a problem that caused the gnome panel
to crash on startup, caused by the update released a couple of days earliar.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Old 06-08-2008, 06:47 PM
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David W. Hodgins wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:37:05 -0400, Eric wrote:
>
>> Well, this is really weird, tonight my system is back to normal. all that
>> was broken is now working
>> Eric

>
> Let me take a wild guess, that you are using Gnome. The most recent
> mandriva update for the timezone package fixed a problem that caused the
> gnome panel to crash on startup, caused by the update released a couple of
> days earliar.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>


Nope, no cigar for you, I use kde :-)
Eric

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