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  1. determine memory type

    Hi,
    I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing them and
    looking, is there a software way (besides reboot into bios setup) to
    determine which is installed? system is mandriva 2008.0 x64 mode, on DG33TL
    intel board.
    Thanks
    Eric

  2. Re: determine memory type

    Eric wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing them
    > and
    > looking, is there a software way (besides reboot into bios setup) to
    > determine which is installed? system is mandriva 2008.0 x64 mode, on
    > DG33TL intel board.
    > Thanks
    > Eric



    lshw Possibly?

    Andrew Ed

  3. Re: determine memory type

    Andrew Ed wrote:
    > Eric wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >> I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing them
    >> and
    >> looking, is there a software way (besides reboot into bios setup) to
    >> determine which is installed? system is mandriva 2008.0 x64 mode, on
    >> DG33TL intel board.
    >> Thanks
    >> Eric

    >
    >
    > lshw Possibly?

    ==============

    lshw not recognised

    Must be another cmd ....if there is any .

    Frank


  4. Re: determine memory type

    Highland Ham wrote:

    > Andrew Ed wrote:
    >> Eric wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>> I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing
    >>> them and
    >>> looking, is there a software way (besides reboot into bios setup) to
    >>> determine which is installed? system is mandriva 2008.0 x64 mode, on
    >>> DG33TL intel board.
    >>> Thanks
    >>> Eric

    >>
    >>
    >> lshw Possibly?

    > ==============
    >
    > lshw not recognised
    >
    > Must be another cmd ....if there is any .
    >
    > Frank


    Try installing lshw first then

    as root urpmi lshw

    then from console lshw

    In this virtual machine it reports more information than harddrake2 does,
    although not the speed of the RAM because it is in a virtual machine, from
    memory at home on a standalone machine it shows a lot more information than
    harddrake2 does.

    Andrew Ed

  5. Re: determine memory type

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:32:35 +0100, Highland Ham wrote:

    > lshw not recognised


    $ type lshw
    lshw is /usr/sbin/lshw

    try /usr/sbin/lshw

    You might need to click up a terminal
    su - root

    lshw

    to get more information from lshw.

    You my need to install it
    urpmi --wget lshw --auto

  6. Re: determine memory type

    Hi,

    Highland Ham wrote:
    > Andrew Ed wrote:
    >> Eric wrote:
    >>> I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing
    >>> them


    >> lshw Possibly?


    > lshw not recognised
    >
    > Must be another cmd ....if there is any .


    decode-dimms.pl from lm_sensors package does what you want, providing
    you set up lm_sensores first, with sensors-detect usually.

  7. Re: determine memory type

    >>> lshw Possibly?
    >> ==============
    >>
    >> lshw not recognised
    >>
    >> Must be another cmd ....if there is any .
    >>
    >> Frank

    >
    > Try installing lshw first then
    >
    > as root urpmi lshw
    >
    > then from console lshw

    =========================================
    That's what I did (as root)...Bingo . Most hardware info is there
    man page is explaining everything.

    Tnx ,I'll remember to first 'urpmi' any cmd (prog) before responding in
    future.
    I am on a good learning curve.

    Frank


  8. Re: determine memory type

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:32:35 +0100, Highland Ham wrote:

    > Andrew Ed wrote:
    >> Eric wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>> I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing
    >>> them and
    >>> looking, is there a software way (besides reboot into bios setup) to
    >>> determine which is installed? system is mandriva 2008.0 x64 mode, on
    >>> DG33TL intel board.
    >>> Thanks
    >>> Eric

    >>
    >>
    >> lshw Possibly?

    > ==============
    >
    > lshw not recognised
    >
    > Must be another cmd ....if there is any .
    >
    > Frank


    Must be root. It reports the bogus clock speed from DDR ram, For real bus
    clock speed divide by 2. The real bus clock speed for mine is 200MHz (set
    for DDR2 800 ram). Might need to pipe it to a file to see all of it.

    *-memory:0
    description: System Memory
    physical id: 1d
    slot: System board or motherboard
    size: 2GB
    *-bank:0
    description: DIMM 400 MHz (2.5 ns)
    physical id: 0
    slot: A0
    size: 1GB
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 400MHz (2.5ns)
    *-bank:1
    description: DIMM 400 MHz (2.5 ns)
    physical id: 1
    slot: A1
    size: 1GB
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 400MHz (2.5ns)



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  9. Re: determine memory type

    Andrew Ed wrote:

    > Eric wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >> I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing them
    >> and
    >> looking, is there a software way (besides reboot into bios setup) to
    >> determine which is installed? system is mandriva 2008.0 x64 mode, on
    >> DG33TL intel board.
    >> Thanks
    >> Eric

    >
    >
    > lshw Possibly?
    >
    > Andrew Ed

    you're a genius!
    *-memory
    description: System Memory
    physical id: 14
    slot: System board or motherboard
    size: 4GB
    *-bank:0
    description: DIMM Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
    product: 0x38485446313238363441592D383045453120
    vendor: 0x2C00000000000000
    physical id: 0
    serial: 0xD823F958
    slot: J6H1
    size: 1GB
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
    I love it! another "ls" util, i knew about lsof, lsmod, lsusb but i didnt know
    about lshw
    Thanks
    Eric


  10. Re: determine memory type

    Marc Kelly wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > Highland Ham wrote:
    >> Andrew Ed wrote:
    >>> Eric wrote:
    >>>> I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing
    >>>> them

    >
    >>> lshw Possibly?

    >
    >> lshw not recognised
    >>
    >> Must be another cmd ....if there is any .

    >
    > decode-dimms.pl from lm_sensors package does what you want, providing
    > you set up lm_sensores first, with sensors-detect usually.


    i have lm_sensors, but decode-dimms.pl isnt on my system
    # locate decode-d
    #
    anyway, lshw does it for me.
    Eric

  11. Re: determine memory type

    Eric wrote:
    > Andrew Ed wrote:
    >
    >> Eric wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>> I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing them
    >>> and
    >>> looking, is there a software way (besides reboot into bios setup) to
    >>> determine which is installed? system is mandriva 2008.0 x64 mode, on
    >>> DG33TL intel board.
    >>> Thanks
    >>> Eric

    >>
    >> lshw Possibly?
    >>
    >> Andrew Ed

    > you're a genius!
    > *-memory
    > description: System Memory
    > physical id: 14
    > slot: System board or motherboard
    > size: 4GB
    > *-bank:0
    > description: DIMM Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
    > product: 0x38485446313238363441592D383045453120
    > vendor: 0x2C00000000000000
    > physical id: 0
    > serial: 0xD823F958
    > slot: J6H1
    > size: 1GB
    > width: 64 bits
    > clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
    > I love it! another "ls" util, i knew about lsof, lsmod, lsusb but i didnt know
    > about lshw
    > Thanks
    > Eric


    What version/package are you using? On my system, with version
    B.02.12.01, lshw says very little about memory, even run as root:

    *-memory:0
    description: System Memory
    physical id: 1c
    slot: System board or motherboard
    size: 1GiB
    *-bank:0
    description: DIMM
    physical id: 0
    slot: A0
    size: 1GiB
    width: 64 bits

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  12. Re: determine memory type

    On Fri, 02 May 2008 01:10:23 GMT, Jim Beard wrote:
    >
    > What version/package are you using? On my system, with version
    > B.02.12.01, lshw says very little about memory, even run as root:
    >
    > *-memory:0
    > description: System Memory
    > physical id: 1c
    > slot: System board or motherboard
    > size: 1GiB
    > *-bank:0
    > description: DIMM
    > physical id: 0
    > slot: A0
    > size: 1GiB
    > width: 64 bits
    >


    lshw Must not like you.

    main-2008.1.idx:lshw-2.12.01-2mdv2008.1.i586.rpm 1238157 Apr 03 19:34
    main-2008.1.idx:lshw-gui-2.12.01-2mdv2008.1.i586.rpm 500680 Apr 03 19:31
    snippet from mine

    *-memory
    description: System Memory
    physical id: 21
    slot: System board or motherboard
    size: 1GiB
    capacity: 2GiB
    *-bank:0
    description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 400 MHz (2.5 ns)
    product: None
    vendor: None
    physical id: 0
    serial: None
    slot: A0
    size: 512MiB
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 400MHz (2.5ns)

  13. Re: determine memory type

    On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:24:08 -0400, Bit Twister wrote:

    > description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 400 MHz (2.5 ns)


    I suspect it varies depending on the memory card. I have the same version
    of lshw, yet it also only shows DIMM for the descriptions of my two
    ddr400 1gb memory cards.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  14. Re: determine memory type

    Bit Twister wrote:
    > lshw Must not like you.
    >
    > main-2008.1.idx:lshw-2.12.01-2mdv2008.1.i586.rpm 1238157 Apr 03 19:34
    > main-2008.1.idx:lshw-gui-2.12.01-2mdv2008.1.i586.rpm 500680 Apr 03 19:31


    I guess it does not. I have the same package, except X86_64 version.
    I installed the gui version and tried gtk-lshw to see if
    that might make a difference. It did. As root, it told me
    I had:
    product: PROD00000000
    vendor: OEM00000
    width: 32 bits
    capabilities:
    SMBIOS version 2.2,
    DMI version 2.2,
    SMP specification v1.4,
    Symmetric Multi-Processing
    configuration:
    boot: normal
    cpus: 0
    uuid: 4629064D-E000-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF


    As a user, it told me:
    Computer



    width: 32 bits

    My guess is lshw does not like the GeForce 6100 motherboard
    with a pair of dual-core Athlon's on it.

    Cheers!

    jim b.

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  15. Re: determine memory type

    Jim Beard wrote:

    > My guess is lshw does not like the GeForce 6100 motherboard
    > with a pair of dual-core Athlon's on it.


    I think there's something that's being overlooked here... ;-) Things
    like /lshw/ are just front-end tools to the hardware monitoring support
    built into the kernel, and the kernel does not support all hardware
    monitoring functionality from every available motherboard chipset yet.

    For instance, the new machine I'm setting up has a Tyan motherboard, with a
    hardware monitoring chipset which is rather vaguely identified on Tyan's
    website and in the motherboard's manual, and about which I cannot find any
    conclusive information via Google.

    So, upon configuring my kernel, I checked what hardware monitoring chipsets
    are supported in the kernel, and while the offer is extensive, it's not
    quite complete yet, and it is also not clear what driver supports what
    other chipsets - several drivers will support chipsets on quite different
    motherboards.

    So it is quite possible that the memory clock frequency is a function of the
    hardware monitoring chipset in your machine for which there is still no
    kernel-level support.

    Your mileage may vary, as always. :-)

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  16. Re: determine memory type

    Jim Beard wrote:

    > Eric wrote:
    >> Andrew Ed wrote:
    >>
    >>> Eric wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>> I have either DDR2-667 or DDR2-800 in my box but, short of removing
    >>>> them and
    >>>> looking, is there a software way (besides reboot into bios setup) to
    >>>> determine which is installed? system is mandriva 2008.0 x64 mode, on
    >>>> DG33TL intel board.
    >>>> Thanks
    >>>> Eric
    >>>
    >>> lshw Possibly?
    >>>
    >>> Andrew Ed

    >> you're a genius!
    >> *-memory
    >> description: System Memory
    >> physical id: 14
    >> slot: System board or motherboard
    >> size: 4GB
    >> *-bank:0
    >> description: DIMM Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
    >> product: 0x38485446313238363441592D383045453120
    >> vendor: 0x2C00000000000000
    >> physical id: 0
    >> serial: 0xD823F958
    >> slot: J6H1
    >> size: 1GB
    >> width: 64 bits
    >> clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
    >> I love it! another "ls" util, i knew about lsof, lsmod, lsusb but i didnt
    >> know about lshw
    >> Thanks
    >> Eric

    >
    > What version/package are you using? On my system, with version
    > B.02.12.01, lshw says very little about memory, even run as root:
    >
    > *-memory:0
    > description: System Memory
    > physical id: 1c
    > slot: System board or motherboard
    > size: 1GiB
    > *-bank:0
    > description: DIMM
    > physical id: 0
    > slot: A0
    > size: 1GiB
    > width: 64 bits
    >


    # lshw -v
    Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.11.01
    Eric


  17. Re: determine memory type

    Jim Beard wrote:

    > Bit Twister wrote:
    >> lshw Must not like you.
    >>
    >> main-2008.1.idx:lshw-2.12.01-2mdv2008.1.i586.rpm 1238157 Apr 03 19:34
    >> main-2008.1.idx:lshw-gui-2.12.01-2mdv2008.1.i586.rpm 500680 Apr 03 19:31

    >
    > I guess it does not. I have the same package, except X86_64 version.
    > I installed the gui version and tried gtk-lshw to see if
    > that might make a difference. It did. As root, it told me
    > I had:
    > product: PROD00000000
    > vendor: OEM00000
    > width: 32 bits
    > capabilities:
    > SMBIOS version 2.2,
    > DMI version 2.2,
    > SMP specification v1.4,
    > Symmetric Multi-Processing
    > configuration:
    > boot: normal
    > cpus: 0
    > uuid: 4629064D-E000-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF
    >
    >
    > As a user, it told me:
    > Computer
    >
    >
    >
    > width: 32 bits
    >
    > My guess is lshw does not like the GeForce 6100 motherboard
    > with a pair of dual-core Athlon's on it.
    >
    > Cheers!
    >
    > jim b.
    >

    # lshw -v
    Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.11.01
    I'm also running x86_64 Mandriva 2008.0 on Intel DG33TL board, w/Q6600 cpu.
    Probably a lot of this information comes from the SMBios/DMI structures in the
    bios flash. Just a guess...
    I get almost 550 lines of output data about my system with lshw, very cool!
    Eric


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