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  1. 2008: Can't burn CDs

    With mdv2008, the 2.6.22.12-desktop-1 kernel, and KDE 3.5, I am unable to
    burn CDs. I first noticed this trying to set up backups in MCC. When
    choosing to back up manually within MCC, I see that the backup tarballs
    are correctly created and written to the hard disk, but they are not
    subsequently written to CD. Relevant output of the MCC backup utility is:

    ==snip==

    Drakbackup activities via CD:


    Check for media in drive:
    wodim dev=/dev/sg0 -atip

    Device type : Removable CD-ROM
    Version : 5
    Response Format: 2
    Capabilities :
    Vendor_info : 'SONY '
    Identification : 'DVD RW AW-Q170A '
    Revision : '1.73'
    Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
    Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
    Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
    Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
    ATIP info from disk:
    Indicated writing power: 5
    Reference speed: 2
    Is not unrestricted
    Is erasable
    ATIP start of lead in: -11635 (97:26/65)
    ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
    1T speed low: 0 (reserved val 0) 1T speed high: 4
    2T speed low: 8 2T speed high: 0 (reserved val 10)
    power mult factor: 4 6
    recommended erase/write power: 3
    A1 values: 02 4C B0
    A2 values: 4A C8 36
    Disk type: Phase change
    Manuf. index: 3
    Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation

    Running wodim:
    genisoimage -r -J -T -v -V 'Drakbackup_20071225_205959' /var/lib/
    drakbackup/backup_sys_20071225_205959.tar.gz /var/lib/drakbackup/
    backup_user_warren_20071225_205959.tar.gz | wodim -v dev=/dev/sg0 -data -
    force -sao blank=fast -

    scsidev: '/dev/sg0'
    devname: '/dev/sg0'
    scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
    Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34
    Wodim version: 1.1.6
    SCSI buffer size: 64512
    Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if device
    communication breaks or freezes immediately after that.
    TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
    Device type : Removable CD-ROM
    Version : 5
    Response Format: 2
    Capabilities :
    Vendor_info : 'SONY '
    Identification : 'DVD RW AW-Q170A '
    Revision : '1.73'
    Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
    Current: 0x000A (CD-RW)
    Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL)
    Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R)
    Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW)
    Profile: 0x0016 (DVD-R/DL layer jump recording)
    Profile: 0x0015 (DVD-R/DL sequential recording)
    Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording)
    Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite)
    Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording)
    Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM)
    Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW) (current)
    Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R)
    Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM) (current)
    Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
    Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
    Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
    Drive buf size : 890880 = 870 KB
    FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
    wodim: Track 1 has unknown length.
    wodim: Use tsize= option in SAO mode to specify track size.
    Track 01: data unknown length

    ==snip==

    Attempting to open K3B to try burning from there likewise fails.
    Launching from a terminal I see:

    [warren@localhost ~]$ k3b
    [warren@localhost ~]$ kdecore (KAction): WARNING:
    KActionCollection::KActionCollection( QObject *parent, const char *name,
    KInstance *instance )

    The same happens if I attempt to launch K3B as root. Googling the error
    message above uncovers nothing relevant, nor could I find anything
    relevant on the K3B website.

    Any ideas on what I should be looking at to get CD burning working?
    --
    Warren Post
    Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras
    http://srcopan.vze.com/

  2. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    Warren Post writes:

    >With mdv2008, the 2.6.22.12-desktop-1 kernel, and KDE 3.5, I am unable to
    >burn CDs. I first noticed this trying to set up backups in MCC. When
    >choosing to back up manually within MCC, I see that the backup tarballs
    >are correctly created and written to the hard disk, but they are not
    >subsequently written to CD. Relevant output of the MCC backup utility is:


    You could try cdrecord, rather than wodim.

  3. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:13:15 +0000, Unruh wrote:

    > Warren Post writes:
    >
    >>With mdv2008, the 2.6.22.12-desktop-1 kernel, and KDE 3.5, I am unable
    >>to burn CDs. I first noticed this trying to set up backups in MCC. When
    >>choosing to back up manually within MCC, I see that the backup tarballs
    >>are correctly created and written to the hard disk, but they are not
    >>subsequently written to CD. Relevant output of the MCC backup utility
    >>is:

    >
    > You could try cdrecord, rather than wodim.


    Sounds good. How would I do that? I have cdrecord installed but
    drakbackup doesn't provide this option, and K3B won't even launch.
    --
    Warren Post
    Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras
    http://srcopan.vze.com/

  4. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article <4772916b$0$47163$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreene ws.net>,
    Warren Post wrote:

    >>>With mdv2008, the 2.6.22.12-desktop-1 kernel, and KDE 3.5, I am unable
    >>>to burn CDs. I first noticed this trying to set up backups in MCC. When
    >>>choosing to back up manually within MCC, I see that the backup tarballs
    >>>are correctly created and written to the hard disk, but they are not
    >>>subsequently written to CD. Relevant output of the MCC backup utility
    >>>is:

    >>
    >> You could try cdrecord, rather than wodim.

    >
    >Sounds good. How would I do that? I have cdrecord installed but
    >drakbackup doesn't provide this option, and K3B won't even launch.


    He was talking about the real cdrecord, not the fake cdrecord that
    is just a link to wodim.

    a recent cdrtools is at

    ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/

    or in the "schily" source consolidation:

    ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

  5. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    Warren Post wrote:

    > With mdv2008, the 2.6.22.12-desktop-1 kernel, and KDE 3.5, I am
    > unable to burn CDs.


    [snip]
    > Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
    > Drive buf size : 890880 = 870 KB
    > FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
    > wodim: Track 1 has unknown length.
    > wodim: Use tsize= option in SAO mode to specify track size.
    > Track 01: data unknown length


    "man wodim" then search for "tsize", several times. There
    is an explanation of the problem and a solution. Wodim
    seems to leave a few thing to be desired.

    > ==snip==
    >
    > Attempting to open K3B to try burning from there likewise fails.
    > Launching from a terminal I see:
    >
    > [warren@localhost ~]$ k3b
    > [warren@localhost ~]$ kdecore (KAction): WARNING:
    > KActionCollection::KActionCollection( QObject *parent, const char
    > *name, KInstance *instance )


    K3b as well?

    > The same happens if I attempt to launch K3B as root. Googling the
    > error message above uncovers nothing relevant, nor could I find
    > anything relevant on the K3B website.
    >
    > Any ideas on what I should be looking at to get CD burning working?


    For command line burning, see above. For making drakbackup work, I
    modified the source code, and submitted a bug report to Mandriva.
    Add your vote for it to be fixed.
    http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32692


    --
    Peter D.
    Sig goes here...

  6. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    "Peter D." writes:

    >Warren Post wrote:


    >> With mdv2008, the 2.6.22.12-desktop-1 kernel, and KDE 3.5, I am
    >> unable to burn CDs.


    >[snip]
    >> Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
    >> Drive buf size : 890880 = 870 KB
    >> FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
    >> wodim: Track 1 has unknown length.
    >> wodim: Use tsize= option in SAO mode to specify track size.
    >> Track 01: data unknown length


    >"man wodim" then search for "tsize", several times. There
    >is an explanation of the problem and a solution. Wodim
    >seems to leave a few thing to be desired.
    >
    >> ==snip==
    >>
    >> Attempting to open K3B to try burning from there likewise fails.
    >> Launching from a terminal I see:
    >>
    >> [warren@localhost ~]$ k3b
    >> [warren@localhost ~]$ kdecore (KAction): WARNING:
    >> KActionCollection::KActionCollection( QObject *parent, const char
    >> *name, KInstance *instance )


    >K3b as well?


    >> The same happens if I attempt to launch K3B as root. Googling the
    >> error message above uncovers nothing relevant, nor could I find
    >> anything relevant on the K3B website.
    >>
    >> Any ideas on what I should be looking at to get CD burning working?


    >For command line burning, see above. For making drakbackup work, I
    >modified the source code, and submitted a bug report to Mandriva.
    >Add your vote for it to be fixed.
    >http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32692


    Or perhaps that they reinstall cdrecord, rather than wodim as the cd
    burning software. Note that you can also use cdrdao, which for SAO I find
    better and more reliable than either wodim or cdrecord. But it is not as
    flexible. And demands that you write at least a shell toc file first.

    wodim is a port of an old version of cdrecord, when some of the people at
    debian got annoyed with Schilling's attitude and license. It is a little
    like the Reformation where churches split off from each other over what we
    now consider triffles, but the people involved considered things worthy of
    heaven or hell.

    Mandriva 2007.0 has cdrecord 2.01.01 (which I think is still the latest)
    Best is probably to get
    2007/SRPMS/main/release/cdrecord-2.01.01-0.a11.2mdv2007.0.src.rpm
    and run rpm --rebuild on it to make sure that it agrees with all of your
    2008 libraries.
    Or get the tar files and compile from scratch.



  7. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    On 2007-12-28, Unruh wrote:
    >
    > Or perhaps that they reinstall cdrecord, rather than wodim as the cd
    > burning software. Note that you can also use cdrdao, which for SAO I find
    > better and more reliable than either wodim or cdrecord. But it is not as
    > flexible. And demands that you write at least a shell toc file first.


    Thanks for the info about cdrdao. I have used cdrecord on
    my 2007.0 systems, and it looks like I will switch to cdrdao
    when I move to 2008.0 in a few weeks. The man page has some
    rather complex TOC file examples. Could someone post a TOC
    file for burning a single, simple ISO image and one for
    burning two or three audio WAV files without any text or
    CDDB stuff? That would probably save me (and maybe others)
    some time and some coasters. Or, is there a good tutorial
    on writing TOC files?

    Thanks.

    --
    Robert Riches
    spamtrap42@verizon.net
    (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

  8. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article ,
    Peter D. wrote:

    >> Attempting to open K3B to try burning from there likewise fails.
    >> Launching from a terminal I see:
    >>
    >> [warren@localhost ~]$ k3b
    >> [warren@localhost ~]$ kdecore (KAction): WARNING:
    >> KActionCollection::KActionCollection( QObject *parent, const char
    >> *name, KInstance *instance )

    >
    >K3b as well?


    K3b uses cdrecord to actually write the CD.
    K3b prefers cdrecord over wodim because of countless bugs in wodim,
    but of there is no cdrecord on the system, k3b tries to use wodim....


    >For command line burning, see above. For making drakbackup work, I
    >modified the source code, and submitted a bug report to Mandriva.
    >Add your vote for it to be fixed.
    >http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32692


    The messages in this bug report contain various bugs from wodim.

    People need to understand that the wodim "project" is just a big attempt
    to confuse people about OpenSource Software.

    it is not only "wodim", bug also "genisoimage", the latter is a frozen fork
    from an extremely outdated version of mkisofs and for this reason it is full
    of unfixed bugs.

    Please keep in mind:

    - In late 2005, the cdrtools project has been massively attacked
    by a few OSS enemies that call themselves "Debian mailtainers".
    The attack was because cdrtools was under GPL (just in case you
    don't know),

    - As a result, the license from cdrtools was changed to a more
    liberal license in May 2006. At the same time, a lot of software
    that has been closed source before has been added to the cdrtools
    OSS project (e.g. the DVD support code in cdrecord that was covered
    under a NDA before).

    - Several months later (in September 2006), the OSS offenders from Debian
    started a fork from old (2005) cdrtools code. They claimed this was a
    reaction on the license change, but the license change was a reaction on
    the attacks from these people.....

    Note that they did _not_ change their "arguements" since 2005 when
    cdrtools was GPL even though the license did change. Please carefully
    read their texts from late 2006 that still claim that the cdrecord
    sub-project was under GPL although the license did change in May 2006.

    - The _only_ "development"-activity in the fork was to replace a working
    build system by a new self-made and defective one.

    - Altough the GPL requires to _include_ the build system in the source
    in case you publish binaries and although Debian publishes binaries,
    the Debian fork does not include the whole build system!

    They replaced the "schily makefilesystem" by "cmake" plus some scripts.
    They included the scripts but they omited "cmake". For this reason,
    the source from the fork cannot be compiled on a typical Linx system.....

    - Later they added some new bugs to the source...., e.g. the one that
    causes the error messages in:
    http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32692

    - On May 6th 2007, _all_ activities ended.

    - In a few days, the period of speudo-activities will be even shorter than
    the period of absolute stagnation in the fork.

    At the same time (since Janyary 2006) more then 3300 single file changes
    have been applied to the original sources. These changes have been done in
    ~ 1100 groups.

    - More than 1/3 of the mkisofs code has been rewritten to fix old bugs
    and to add better UDF and Rock Ridge support.

    - cdrecord added a lot of workarounds for writer formware bugs and for
    Linux kernel self incompatibilities

    - cdrecord added better code to analyse the state of the medium

    - cdrecord added BluRay support.

    Do you really like to waste your time with an umnaintained fork that is full of
    bugs while the original software rapidely evolves?

    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

  9. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article ,
    Unruh wrote:

    >>For command line burning, see above. For making drakbackup work, I
    >>modified the source code, and submitted a bug report to Mandriva.
    >>Add your vote for it to be fixed.
    >>http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32692

    >
    >Or perhaps that they reinstall cdrecord, rather than wodim as the cd


    Reinstalling the old cdrecord would just remove the bugs that have been
    introduced by the fork. If you like to get workarounds for the incompatible
    interface changes introduced with Linux-2.6, you need a _recent_ cdrtools!

    >burning software. Note that you can also use cdrdao, which for SAO I find
    >better and more reliable than either wodim or cdrecord. But it is not as
    >flexible. And demands that you write at least a shell toc file first.


    Cdrdao has not been under development sice ~ 3 years. cdrdao still uses
    the old libscg code that does not work around the Linux-2.6 interface changes.

    Cdrdao is not better or more reliable than cdrecord. Every time I tried to use
    cdrdao, it failed.

    The orignal author of cdrdao did a much better job when he took some
    engineering results from Heiko Eifeldt, Brian Chaffee and me and created an
    own program instead of helping with SAO support in cdrecord (as he did
    promise). He did stop to evolve his program however a long time ago. This is
    why k3b now prefers to use cdrecord before cdrdao (it used to write Audio CDs
    with cdrdao before....).


    >wodim is a port of an old version of cdrecord, when some of the people at
    >debian got annoyed with Schilling's attitude and license. It is a little


    You are a victim of the bad propaganda from some OSS enemies that call
    themselves "Debian maintainers". The license change was a _reaction_ on massive
    attacks against the cdrtools project done be these people.....


    >like the Reformation where churches split off from each other over what we
    >now consider triffles, but the people involved considered things worthy of
    >heaven or hell.


    Some months after some Debian people started to attack the cdrtools project,
    the license has been "reformed" to become more liberal and in hope to avoid
    the attacks. The people who attacked cdrtools (mainly Mr. Bloch) ignored
    the change and continied to spit the same claims as before the license change.

    Ask your Linux provider why he does not follow the reformation but follows
    the people who do not work for OSS but try to harm OSS. Ask why your linux
    still suffers from problems that have been fixed years ago.


    >Mandriva 2007.0 has cdrecord 2.01.01 (which I think is still the latest)
    > Best is probably to get


    This is an _extremely_ outdated source that does not work around the Linux2.6
    incompatibilities....

    Better get the latest source!

    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

  10. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article ,
    Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
    >On 2007-12-28, Unruh wrote:
    >>
    >> Or perhaps that they reinstall cdrecord, rather than wodim as the cd
    >> burning software. Note that you can also use cdrdao, which for SAO I find
    >> better and more reliable than either wodim or cdrecord. But it is not as
    >> flexible. And demands that you write at least a shell toc file first.

    >
    >Thanks for the info about cdrdao. I have used cdrecord on
    >my 2007.0 systems, and it looks like I will switch to cdrdao
    >when I move to 2008.0 in a few weeks. The man page has some


    So you like to change from software that has not been evolved since 2+ years
    like wodim to software that not been evolved since 3+ years (cdrdao)?

    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

  11. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:19:14 +0000, Joerg Schilling wrote:


    > Do you really like to waste your time with an umnaintained fork that is full of
    > bugs while the original software rapidely evolves?


    Do you really like being your own worst enemy? No wonder you're
    frozen out by maintainers if this is how you communicate.

  12. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article , Sandman wrote:
    >On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:19:14 +0000, Joerg Schilling wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Do you really like to waste your time with an umnaintained fork that is full of
    >> bugs while the original software rapidely evolves?

    >
    >Do you really like being your own worst enemy? No wonder you're
    >frozen out by maintainers if this is how you communicate.


    You are a funny person....and it seems to be important that you prefer to hide your
    identity! You seem to be in fear of revealing your identity.


    Maintaners maintain things, the agressors around Mr. Bloch do not even maintain
    their "fork".

    Real maintainers of course talk with me as they are interested in software and
    in making software better. The intention of the Debian "fork" is to harm OSS
    instead.

    The people around Mr. Bloch attack free software, do you prefer people who
    attack free software or do you prefer people who write and maintain free
    software?


    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

  13. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:19:21 +0000, Joerg Schilling wrote:


    > The people around Mr. Bloch attack free software, do you prefer people who
    > attack free software or do you prefer people who write and maintain free
    > software?


    If you're the writer of a major item of free software, then you must have
    great technical competence. Pity your enjoyment of that position is shot
    down by a petty pissing match, eh? From what you say here, this Mr. Bloch
    and friends are prevailing, and you're frozen out of several distributions,
    so you lose, right? They must have *something* that you lack, if as
    you claim it's not technical competence. So why not try diverting a small
    fraction of your vast intellect onto developing *social* competence?
    Instead of digging yourself deeper into foolish contention with every post,
    that is.

  14. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article , Sandman wrote:
    >On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:19:21 +0000, Joerg Schilling wrote:
    >
    >
    >> The people around Mr. Bloch attack free software, do you prefer people who
    >> attack free software or do you prefer people who write and maintain free
    >> software?

    >
    >If you're the writer of a major item of free software, then you must have
    >great technical competence. Pity your enjoyment of that position is shot
    >down by a petty pissing match, eh? From what you say here, this Mr. Bloch
    >and friends are prevailing, and you're frozen out of several distributions,
    >so you lose, right? They must have *something* that you lack, if as


    Mr. amonymous: what they have is dishonesty and they create intrigues against
    free software. I am sorry but this is not what I like to add to my skills.

    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

  15. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:16:31 +0000, Joerg Schilling wrote:

    > Mr. amonymous: what they have is dishonesty and they create intrigues against
    > free software. I am sorry but this is not what I like to add to my skills.


    You burst onto this group with every post a model of superciliousness and
    announce that you've got yourself into a feud with nasty mean people and
    that you're the victim of grand conspiracies. Come on, you must have
    *some* self-insight. *We* can see quite clearly how you must have got
    into your situation.

  16. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    On 2007-12-28, Joerg Schilling wrote:
    > In article ,
    > Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
    >>On 2007-12-28, Unruh wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Or perhaps that they reinstall cdrecord, rather than wodim as the cd
    >>> burning software. Note that you can also use cdrdao, which for SAO I find
    >>> better and more reliable than either wodim or cdrecord. But it is not as
    >>> flexible. And demands that you write at least a shell toc file first.

    >>
    >>Thanks for the info about cdrdao. I have used cdrecord on
    >>my 2007.0 systems, and it looks like I will switch to cdrdao
    >>when I move to 2008.0 in a few weeks. The man page has some

    >
    > So you like to change from software that has not been evolved since 2+ years
    > like wodim to software that not been evolved since 3+ years (cdrdao)?


    When feasible, I like using software packages made by and
    for my specific distribution (Mandriva). Using a non-distro
    package is a lot of work for me that I would like to avoid.
    Your points against wodim have steered me away from wodim.
    Also, I like the idea of omitting the 2-second silent
    pre-gap for audio CDs.

    Mr. Schilling, you may have some good points. However, you
    have lost a lot of credibility with me by your earlier
    claims that cdrecord must be run as root and the unpleasant
    attitude I see in your postings. My four-year-old system
    using Mandriva 2007's cdrecord burns CDs just fine as
    non-root, despite the whining warnings the program prints.
    (I verify every CD I burn and have very few failures.)
    Perhaps to a lesser extent, the large number of obvious
    typos or spelling errors in your postings don't boost your
    credibility in my eyes.

    Did that answer your question?

    --
    Robert Riches
    spamtrap42@verizon.net
    (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

  17. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) writes:

    > In article , Sandman wrote:
    >>On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:19:21 +0000, Joerg Schilling wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> The people around Mr. Bloch attack free software, do you prefer people who
    >>> attack free software or do you prefer people who write and maintain free
    >>> software?

    >>
    >>If you're the writer of a major item of free software, then you must have
    >>great technical competence. Pity your enjoyment of that position is shot
    >>down by a petty pissing match, eh? From what you say here, this Mr. Bloch
    >>and friends are prevailing, and you're frozen out of several distributions,
    >>so you lose, right? They must have *something* that you lack, if as

    >
    > Mr. amonymous: what they have is dishonesty and they create intrigues against
    > free software. I am sorry but this is not what I like to add to my skills.


    Joerg, looks like you will never learn to fit into the imperfect world
    around you.

    I think you would benefit from compromising sometimes but
    I don't think you are going to listen to me (or Mr. Sandman).

  18. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article , Sandman wrote:
    >On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:16:31 +0000, Joerg Schilling wrote:
    >
    >> Mr. amonymous: what they have is dishonesty and they create intrigues against
    >> free software. I am sorry but this is not what I like to add to my skills.

    >
    >You burst onto this group with every post a model of superciliousness and


    Tell us who you are and you might be taken for serious.
    Well, of course you would need to write serious content.

    Attacking people who seriously work for OSS from "behind a curtain"
    does not put you into a good light. It rather creates the assumption that you
    might be in relation to the people behind wodim who are not interested in OSS.

    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

  19. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article ,
    Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:

    >> So you like to change from software that has not been evolved since 2+ years
    >> like wodim to software that not been evolved since 3+ years (cdrdao)?

    >
    >When feasible, I like using software packages made by and
    >for my specific distribution (Mandriva). Using a non-distro
    >package is a lot of work for me that I would like to avoid.
    >Your points against wodim have steered me away from wodim.


    If mandriva does not give you the freedom to choose a working
    CD recording program, you should send a bug report to Mandriva and if this does
    not help, you should move to a better Linux distribution.


    >Also, I like the idea of omitting the 2-second silent
    >pre-gap for audio CDs.


    This is something that cdrecord allows you to do since 10 years.


    >Mr. Schilling, you may have some good points. However, you
    >have lost a lot of credibility with me by your earlier
    >claims that cdrecord must be run as root and the unpleasant


    If you still believe that cdrecord runs as non-root, you trust the wrong people.
    In that case, I cannot help you.

    It is a pitty that you believe people like Mr. Bloch who is missing the need
    basic knowledge on SCSI and Linux. The Linux kernel filters away important
    SCSI commands if you are not root. Cdrecord adopts it's behavior to limited
    environments but this results in less features and lower quality. Some use cases
    will not work at all if cdrecord is not run with root privileges.

    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

  20. Re: 2008: Can't burn CDs

    In article ,
    Dan Espen wrote:

    >I think you would benefit from compromising sometimes but
    >I don't think you are going to listen to me (or Mr. Sandman).


    I don't listen to anonymous trolls.

    If you have valuable ideas, just send them. I listen to every serious
    idea.

    --
    EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jrg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
    js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni)
    schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
    URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

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