Knode Index Problem - Mandriva

This is a discussion on Knode Index Problem - Mandriva ; I installed knode in a new system the same way I always have: copied knode from ~/.kde/share/apps and knoderc from ~/.kde/share/config. I have read newsgroups on the new system for a couple of days and sent a couple of replies. ...

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  1. Knode Index Problem

    I installed knode in a new system the same way I always have:
    copied knode from ~/.kde/share/apps and knoderc from ~/.kde/share/config. I
    have read newsgroups on the new system for a couple of days and sent a
    couple of replies. I can't swear that in that time I looked at notes I had
    saved, but I think I did. I probably haven't looked at the sent folder.
    This morning I can't access either the sent or saved folders. Same message
    in both cases: cannot load index file.

    I tried saving the bad knode folder and knoderc and copying the same things
    I copied originally. The result is weird. Everything still works fine on
    the old system, but I get the same error on the new one. Not only that, but
    the number of entries listed for the two folders is different on the two
    systems! I can't find any other file that contains knode information, and I
    never had a problem with this before when I set up new systems.

    The permissions on all the directories and files look fine.

    My local folders are Outbox, Sent, Drafts and Saved, in that order. Outbox
    and Drafts have nothing in them. The files in the folders directory
    (.idx, .info, .mbox and some backups) are for custom_4, drafts_1, outbox_2
    root_0 and savesent_3.

    Both systems are running Mandriva Spring 2007, and both are updated to the
    latest level, including the kernels. Only the new one is using 64-bit code.

    This has me stumped. What am I missing? Is there some way to re-index? Are
    the options to import or export in Mbox format useful for something? I'd be
    most grateful for a suggestion.
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  2. Re: Knode Index Problem

    On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:20:19 -0400, Gail Koontz wrote:

    > This morning I can't access either the sent or saved folders. Same message
    > in both cases: cannot load index file.


    Triple check the ownership of the files in ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  3. Re: Knode Index Problem

    David W. Hodgins wrote:
    message in both cases: cannot load index file.
    >
    > Triple check the ownership of the files in
    > ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders.
    >
    > Regards, Dave Hodgins
    >

    That was the first thing I did, since I've had similar messages in the past
    because of ownership problems. But, as I thought I said in the original
    note, the permissions and ownerships all look OK. I can transfer all the
    files from the old computer, where access to everything works, to the new
    one, immediately try to read contents of either the saved or sent folders,
    and I get the error messages. And bad counts! The counts aren't in the info
    files, and if they are in the index files, I can't read them, since the
    files are binary. But how could they change from one machine to the other
    unless they exist in some file(s) I'm not transferring and can't find? And
    the counts are larger in the old machine than in the new one, although I've
    sent and saved additional items.
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  4. Re: Knode Index Problem

    On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:13:04 -0400, Gail Koontz wrote:

    > David W. Hodgins wrote:
    > message in both cases: cannot load index file.
    >>
    >> Triple check the ownership of the files in
    >> ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders.


    Humour me. Please post the output of
    ls -n ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders/
    ls -nd ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders/
    ls -nd ~
    from both systems.

    Either the .idx files were corrupted during the transfer, such as by
    using ftp in text mode, or the ownerships/permissions have to be
    incorrect. Looking at the source code shows the error message is
    a direct result of failing to load the headers.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  5. Re: Knode Index Problem

    * Gail Koontz wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    > David W. Hodgins wrote: message in both cases: cannot load index file.


    >> Triple check the ownership of the files in
    >> ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders.


    >> Regards, Dave Hodgins


    > That was the first thing I did, since I've had similar messages in the
    > past because of ownership problems. But, as I thought I said in the
    > original note, the permissions and ownerships all look OK. I can
    > transfer all the files from the old computer, where access to
    > everything works, to the new one, immediately try to read contents of
    > either the saved or sent folders, and I get the error messages. And
    > bad counts! The counts aren't in the info files, and if they are in
    > the index files, I can't read them, since the files are binary. But
    > how could they change from one machine to the other unless they exist
    > in some file(s) I'm not transferring and can't find? And the counts
    > are larger in the old machine than in the new one, although I've sent
    > and saved additional items.


    What are you actually trying to get done?

    A Synch between to different machines?

    Does Knode not allow you to tell it where to look for its config files?

    Are the 2 machines networked?

    Cant you share the config directory and have both instances of Knode
    point to the same one so no matter where you are everything is in synch
    without dealing with the above?

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  6. Re: Knode Index Problem

    SINNER wrote:

    > What are you actually trying to get done?
    >
    > A Synch between to different machines?
    >

    No. I'm trying to preserve the history on the old computer by transferring
    it to the new one before I make the old one into a computer for my husband.
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  7. Re: Knode Index Problem

    David W. Hodgins wrote:

    > Humour me. ¬*Please post the output of
    > ls -n ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders/
    > ls -nd ~/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders/
    > ls -nd ~
    > from both systems.
    >

    Here it is:

    New computer:

    [gail@186 ~]$ ls -n /home/gail/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders/
    total 1171
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 896 Sep 2 05:58 custom_4.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 2968 Jul 8 06:24 custom_4.idx~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 41 Sep 5 21:19 custom_4.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 41 Jul 13 16:31 custom_4.info~
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 110218 Sep 2 05:58 custom_4.mbox
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 276561 Jul 8 06:24 custom_4.mbox~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Sep 2 05:58 drafts_1.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Jul 9 06:13 drafts_1.idx~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Sep 5 21:19 drafts_1.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jul 13 16:31 drafts_1.info~
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 0 Sep 2 05:58 drafts_1.mbox
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 0 Jul 9 06:13 drafts_1.mbox~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Sep 2 05:58 outbox_2.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Jul 9 06:13 outbox_2.idx~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Sep 5 21:19 outbox_2.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jul 13 16:31 outbox_2.info~
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 0 Sep 2 05:58 outbox_2.mbox
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 242705 Jul 9 06:13 outbox_2.mbox~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Sep 5 21:19 root_0.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jul 13 16:31 root_0.info~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Jun 2 2003 savesent_3.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jun 2 2003 savesent_3.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 1056 Jun 1 2003 savesent_3.mbox
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 3976 Sep 2 16:00 sent_3.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 3864 Jul 4 16:28 sent_3.idx~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Sep 5 21:19 sent_3.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jul 13 16:31 sent_3.info~
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 254706 Sep 2 16:00 sent_3.mbox
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 276563 Jul 9 06:13 sent_3.mbox~
    [gail@186 ~]$ ls -nd /home/gail/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders/
    drwxrwxr-x 2 500 500 1024 Sep 5
    21:19 /home/gail/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders//
    [gail@186 ~]$ ls -nd
    drwx--x--x 39 500 500 2048 Sep 6 05:31 ./
    [gail@186 ~]$

    old computer:

    [gail@186 ~]$ ls -n /oldgail/home/gail/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders/
    total 1174
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 896 Sep 2 05:58 custom_4.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 2968 Jul 8 06:24 custom_4.idx~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 41 Sep 6 05:56 custom_4.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 41 Jul 13 16:31 custom_4.info~
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 110218 Sep 2 05:58 custom_4.mbox
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 276561 Jul 8 06:24 custom_4.mbox~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 56 Sep 6 05:50 drafts_1.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Jul 9 06:13 drafts_1.idx~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Sep 6 05:56 drafts_1.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jul 13 16:31 drafts_1.info~
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 1036 Sep 6 05:50 drafts_1.mbox
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 0 Jul 9 06:13 drafts_1.mbox~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Sep 2 05:58 outbox_2.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Jul 9 06:13 outbox_2.idx~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Sep 6 05:56 outbox_2.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jul 13 16:31 outbox_2.info~
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 0 Sep 2 05:58 outbox_2.mbox
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 242705 Jul 9 06:13 outbox_2.mbox~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Sep 6 05:56 root_0.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jul 13 16:31 root_0.info~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Jun 2 2003 savesent_3.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jun 2 2003 savesent_3.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 1056 Jun 1 2003 savesent_3.mbox
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 3976 Sep 2 16:00 sent_3.idx
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 3864 Jul 4 16:28 sent_3.idx~
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Sep 6 05:56 sent_3.info
    -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 13 Jul 13 16:31 sent_3.info~
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 254706 Sep 2 16:00 sent_3.mbox
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 500 276563 Jul 9 06:13 sent_3.mbox~
    [gail@186 ~]$ ls -nd /oldgail/home/gail/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders/
    drwxr-xr-x 2 500 500 1024 Sep 6
    05:56 /oldgail/home/gail/.kde/share/apps/knode/folders//
    [gail@186 ~]$ ls -nd
    drwx--x--x 39 500 500 2048 Sep 6 06:19 ./
    [gail@186 ~]$
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  8. Re: Knode Index Problem

    David W. Hodgins wrote:

    > Either the .idx files were corrupted during the transfer, such as by
    > using ftp in text mode, or the ownerships/permissions have to be
    > incorrect. Looking at the source code shows the error message is
    > a direct result of failing to load the headers.


    I did the transfer simply by mounting the home partition of the old system
    using NFS and using drag and drop. But here is some additional info. It
    suddenly occurred to me (after I posted the data you asked for) to test
    what would happen if I put something into the Drafts folder, which had no
    contents and was accessible, so I put a couple of notes in there, deleted
    the knode items from apps and config and re-imported everything. I could
    access the contents of Drafts, but it had a count of 1 and showed only one
    note. On the old computer, it had a count of 2 and showed both of the notes
    I had put in there.

    Apparently there is a serious difference between the 32- and 64-bit versions
    of knode. (I'm dismissing the idea of a really selective drag and drop
    problem.) I've found that I can clear the contents of the broken folders,
    and they appear to work just fine after that, so I guess I'll have to live
    without the history I was trying to preserve.
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  9. Re: Knode Index Problem

    On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:52:00 -0400, Gail Koontz wrote:

    > Apparently there is a serious difference between the 32- and 64-bit versions
    > of knode. (I'm dismissing the idea of a really selective drag and drop


    Ahh. That makes sense. A 64 bit version would use 64 bit addresses, in
    the pointers, in the indices.

    In knode, on the old system, for each folder, such as sent, etc, select
    folder, export MBox folder. Copy the exported files.
    In the new system, create the folders, if they don't already exist,
    then select folder, import MBox folder.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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