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  1. How do I make this go away

    when showing all headers this comes up

    X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)

    is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?

    I prefer to keep my OS hidden if possible.




  2. Re: How do I make this go away

    Ed Harley wrote:
    > when showing all headers this comes up
    >
    > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    > Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    > Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >
    > is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?
    >
    > I prefer to keep my OS hidden if possible.


    Why? Does it embarrass you for some reason?

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  3. Re: How do I make this go away

    On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:53:37 -1000, Ed Harley wrote:
    > when showing all headers this comes up
    >
    > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    > Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    > Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >
    > is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?


    Well the good news, it does not show up in my news reader, slrn, nor
    does it show up in knode.
    Guessing my news server stripped it out for you.

  4. Re: How do I make this go away

    Blinky the Shark wrote:

    > Ed Harley wrote:
    >> when showing all headers this comes up
    >>
    >> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    >> Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >>
    >> is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?
    >>
    >> I prefer to keep my OS hidden if possible.

    >
    > Why? Does it embarrass you for some reason?
    >



    no, but having it not show is an extra bit of security.

  5. Re: How do I make this go away

    On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:53:37 -1000, Ed Harley wrote:
    > when showing all headers this comes up
    >
    > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    > Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    > Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >
    > is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?
    >
    > I prefer to keep my OS hidden if possible.


    I can see where security in layers is a damn fine idea, but depending on
    obscurity as a layer, is not a good idea.

    Now, running without updates installed is worse.
    Example, firefox 2.0.0.6-2.1mdv2007.0 was released Aug 17 and you
    showed 1.5.0.10

    I would say, as a rule, linux is thwarting the script kiddies.
    You have to worry about the black hats.

    If I were a cracker trying for systems, it would not be hard to
    harvest ip addies and other poster data from Usernet and populate a
    Mysql/postgresql database.

    Trivial to then group by usenet group and From: columns.
    Same _From:_ found in different distribution groups would tend to point out
    subject matter experts and a good one not to bother.
    That gives quite a running start as to which OS someone may be running.

    New poster in the group signals a very good posibility of a newbie and
    someone to test every once in awhile. When a new exploit is found, it
    would be trivial to run through the database for systems to check for
    lazy people who have not kept their system up to date with fixes.


    Crackers have moved from front door attacks, (too many firewalls
    running now adays) to attacking your applications like pdf,
    realplayer, flash, browser,.....

    Your major danger is from websites. Crackers are keeping databases on
    honeypots and AV vendor ip addresses and serve up honest content to
    hide from them. Otherwise, try to push out malware.


    Here, see what info your browser leaks/provides http://gemal.dk/browserspy/


  6. Re: How do I make this go away

    Ed Harley wrote:
    > when showing all headers this comes up
    >
    > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    > Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    > Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >
    > is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?
    >
    > I prefer to keep my OS hidden if possible.


    You need to install the modifyheaders add-on. See help pages
    for Firefox on the Mozilla website. I have never done it, so
    I don't know how it works in Firefox.

    In Thunderbird, you have to go to Advanced Config, search for
    headers (in the "filter" window), and then pick out what you
    want to change.

    Cheers!

    jim b.

    --
    UNIX is not user-unfriendly; it merely
    expects users to be computer-friendly.

  7. Re: How do I make this go away

    * Ed Harley wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    > when showing all headers this comes up


    > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    > Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    > Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)


    Why would it show that if you are using Knode?

    --
    David
    The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

    Beware of computerized fortune-tellers!

  8. Re: How do I make this go away

    SINNER wrote:
    > * Ed Harley wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    >> when showing all headers this comes up

    >
    >> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    >> Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)

    >
    > Why would it show that if you are using Knode?


    Point!

    I did not bother to look at the headers on the OP,
    but just assumed he was using a browser to post from
    Google or somewhere.

    My guess is that Knode has been configured to use
    Firefox when an http link is clicked on, and that
    and associated information is made available.

    Looks like OP needs to read the Knode help files,
    or find the configuration for knode (probably a
    dot file or directory in home directory) and then use
    grep irefox .knode* or cd .knode ; grep -R irefox *
    to find where Firefox is mentioned. Then, look at
    those locations, and amend as needed.

    Cheers!

    jim b.

    --
    UNIX is not user-unfriendly; it merely
    expects users to be computer-friendly.

  9. Re: How do I make this go away

    Bit Twister wrote:
    > On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:53:37 -1000, Ed Harley wrote:
    >> when showing all headers this comes up
    >>
    >> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)

    ^^^^
    >> Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >>
    >> is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?

    >
    > Well the good news, it does not show up in my news reader, slrn, nor
    > does it show up in knode.
    > Guessing my news server stripped it out for you.



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  10. Re: How do I make this go away

    Jim Beard wrote:
    > SINNER wrote:
    >> * Ed Harley wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    >>> when showing all headers this comes up

    >>
    >>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
    >>> rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)

    >>
    >> Why would it show that if you are using Knode?

    >
    > Point!
    >
    > I did not bother to look at the headers on the OP, but just assumed he
    > was using a browser to post from Google or somewhere.


    When I saw "showing all headers" and "HTTP-User-Agend", I figured he was
    talking about looking at what is exchanged when he accesses a website
    with Firefox. Since he didn't mention anything about a news client.


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  11. Re: How do I make this go away

    On Mon, 03 Sep 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article
    , Ed Harley wrote:

    >Blinky the Shark wrote:


    >> Ed Harley wrote:
    >>> when showing all headers this comes up
    >>>
    >>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    >>> Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >>>
    >>> is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?


    That's a header put on by google, so the simple solution is to not use
    google. Google gets this information as part of your HTML connection,
    and you can kick your browser into reporting other values if that's
    important.

    >>> I prefer to keep my OS hidden if possible.

    >>
    >> Why? Does it embarrass you for some reason?

    >
    >no, but having it not show is an extra bit of security.


    Got significant news for you.

    [compton ~]$ whatis nmap p0f
    nmap (1) - Network exploration tool and security scanner
    p0f (1) - identify remote systems passively
    [compton ~]$ cat /etc/issue

    Red Hat Linux release 3.0.3 (Picasso)
    Kernel 1.2.13 on a Zylog Z80

    [compton ~]$ uname -r
    2.6.22.3
    [compton ~]$

    Reading headers isn't all it's cracked up to be. If you have nmap
    installed, read the documentation that comes with it - look at the -O
    option in the nmap man page. Fyodor also has written a nice paper on
    fingerprinting _and_ another on fingerprint blocking. Trying to hide
    information about the O/S serves little good if you aren't fixing the
    holes you're trying to hide.

    Old guy

  12. Re: How do I make this go away

    On 3 Sep 2007 20:41:02 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
    > Bit Twister wrote:
    >> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:53:37 -1000, Ed Harley wrote:
    >>> when showing all headers this comes up
    >>>
    >>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)

    > ^^^^


    Yes, I saw that, but looking at his post all I see is
    Path: nwrddc02.gnilink.net!cyclone2.gnilink.net!cyclone1 .gnilink.net!
    gnilink.net!nx01.iad0
    NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:52:51 -0500
    From: Ed Harley
    Subject: How do I make this go away
    Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mandriva
    Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:53:37 -1000
    User-Agent: KNode/0.10.4
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
    Message-ID:
    Lines: 12
    X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.234.178.216
    X-Trace: sv3-goaF3birQO3E7kn/lNeqk4r+Q08x6bzGSKUkJ9ks5PJORHDRxha8
    yXTUeqoSnCh7z59TdZd2XdAdk
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@hawaiiantel.net
    X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@hawaiiantel.net
    X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
    X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your
    complaint properly
    X-Postfilter: 1.3.35
    Bytes: 1395
    X-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:52:51 EDT (nwrddc02.gnilink.net)


  13. Re: How do I make this go away

    On 3 Sep 2007 20:43:24 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
    > Jim Beard wrote:
    >> SINNER wrote:
    >>> * Ed Harley wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    >>>> when showing all headers this comes up
    >>>
    >>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
    >>>> rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >>>
    >>> Why would it show that if you are using Knode?

    >>
    >> Point!
    >>
    >> I did not bother to look at the headers on the OP, but just assumed he
    >> was using a browser to post from Google or somewhere.

    >
    > When I saw "showing all headers" and "HTTP-User-Agend", I figured he was
    > talking about looking at what is exchanged when he accesses a website
    > with Firefox.


    >Since he didn't mention anything about a news client.


    Yep. Once again a thread drifts on in random guesses because the OP
    didn't feel compelled to provide a concise question with precise
    background details.

    cryptic \= concise.

    Jonesy
    --
    Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
    38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2
    *** Killfiling google posts:

  14. Re: How do I make this go away

    * Blinky the Shark wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    > Jim Beard wrote:
    >> SINNER wrote:
    >>> * Ed Harley wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    >>>> when showing all headers this comes up


    >>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
    >>>> rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)


    >>> Why would it show that if you are using Knode?


    >> Point!


    >> I did not bother to look at the headers on the OP, but just assumed he
    >> was using a browser to post from Google or somewhere.


    > When I saw "showing all headers" and "HTTP-User-Agend", I figured he was
    > talking about looking at what is exchanged when he accesses a website
    > with Firefox. Since he didn't mention anything about a news client.


    Well, it did say 'X'-HTTP... so I possibly wrongly, that we were talking
    about newsreaders.

    --
    David
    The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

    The heart is wiser than the intellect.

  15. Re: How do I make this go away

    Bit Twister wrote:
    > On 3 Sep 2007 20:41:02 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
    >> Bit Twister wrote:
    >>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:53:37 -1000, Ed Harley wrote:
    >>>> when showing all headers this comes up
    >>>>
    >>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)

    >> ^^^^

    >
    > Yes, I saw that, but looking at his post all I see is


    He's not talking about his news client, Bit. He didn't even mention
    news clients. (Of course, he didn't mention browsers, either, so
    he contributed to your confusion.)


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  16. Re: How do I make this go away

    Moe Trin wrote:
    > On Mon, 03 Sep 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article
    >, Ed Harley wrote:
    >
    >>Blinky the Shark wrote:

    >
    >>> Ed Harley wrote:
    >>>> when showing all headers this comes up
    >>>>
    >>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    >>>> Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >>>>
    >>>> is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?

    >
    > That's a header put on by google, so the simple solution is to not use
    > google. Google gets this information as part of your HTML connection,
    > and you can kick your browser into reporting other values if that's
    > important.


    He wasn't posting from Google, Moe. He was using Knode.

    He's talking about browsing.


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    Killing all posts from Google Groups
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  17. Re: How do I make this go away

    On 4 Sep 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article
    , Blinky the Shark wrote:

    >Moe Trin wrote:


    >>>> Ed Harley wrote:


    >>>>> when showing all headers this comes up


    which is a google search command relating to newsgroup

    >>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    >>>>> Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>>>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?


    >> That's a header put on by google, so the simple solution is to not use
    >> google. Google gets this information as part of your HTML connection,
    >> and you can kick your browser into reporting other values if that's
    >> important.


    >He wasn't posting from Google, Moe. He was using Knode.


    For _this_ thread - correct.

    >He's talking about browsing.


    but the only time I've ever seen that header is on google-grope posts,
    and it's ALWAYS present in those posts. I haven't gone as far as
    kill-filing google posts in all of the groups I scan (only a few of
    them), so I see it quite regularly. The way I have slrn configured is
    (watch the line-wrap)

    visible_headers "From:,Subject:,Newsgroups:,To:,Followup-To:,Reply-To:,
    Mail-Copies-To:,Date:,Approved:,X-Newsreader:,User-Agent:,X-Mailer:,
    X-HTTP-UserAgent:,NNTP-Posting-Host:,Organization:,X-No-Archive:,
    Last-modified:"

    and this causes slrn to display the 'X-Newsreader:', 'User-Agent:',
    'X-Mailer:' and 'X-HTTP-UserAgent:' headers if they are present. Thus,
    without pressing the 't' command, I see

    =========
    From: Blinky the Shark
    Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mandriva
    Subject: Re: How do I make this go away
    Date: 4 Sep 2007 03:50:57 GMT
    Organization: http://blinkynet.net
    User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (Linux)
    =========

    The O/P's two posts were from a Hawaiian Telcom IP, and a quick grep
    through my local news spool doesn't turn up another post in the past
    six days from 72.234.0.0/15 which is the HAWAIIANTEL-DATA-SERVICES
    IP block. Likewise, I don't see any posts from the ROADRUNNER-HAWAII,
    ROADRUNNER-HAWAII2, or EarthLink ERLK-TW-HAWAII03 blocks. Mind you, I
    am killfiling google-gropers in _some_ Usenet groups, but not all, so I
    could have missed him posting under another nym. In fact, the only
    other poster using the string 'Harley' on my spool is a "David Harley"
    posting from the UK in a Bugtraq mirror newsgroup.

    Old guy

  18. Re: How do I make this go away

    Moe Trin wrote:
    > On 4 Sep 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article
    >, Blinky the Shark wrote:
    >
    >>Moe Trin wrote:

    >
    >>>>> Ed Harley wrote:

    >
    >>>>>> when showing all headers this comes up

    >
    > which is a google search command relating to newsgroup
    >
    >>>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10)
    >>>>>> Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>>>>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?

    >
    >>> That's a header put on by google, so the simple solution is to not use
    >>> google. Google gets this information as part of your HTML connection,
    >>> and you can kick your browser into reporting other values if that's
    >>> important.

    >
    >>He wasn't posting from Google, Moe. He was using Knode.

    >
    > For _this_ thread - correct.
    >
    >>He's talking about browsing.

    >
    > but the only time I've ever seen that header is on google-grope posts,
    > and it's ALWAYS present in those posts. I haven't gone as far as


    Ah! I don't see GG posts, so I'd never noticed that and assumed he was
    talking about some of the data that flies back and forth when your
    browser talks to a web server. My bad.

    > kill-filing google posts in all of the groups I scan (only a few of
    > them), so I see it quite regularly. The way I have slrn configured is
    > (watch the line-wrap)
    >
    > visible_headers "From:,Subject:,Newsgroups:,To:,Followup-To:,Reply-To:,
    > Mail-Copies-To:,Date:,Approved:,X-Newsreader:,User-Agent:,X-Mailer:,
    > X-HTTP-UserAgent:,NNTP-Posting-Host:,Organization:,X-No-Archive:,
    > Last-modified:"


    I do Subject, From, Newsgroups, Date and, like you, the various ones
    that show news clients.


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  19. Re: How do I make this go away

    SINNER wrote:

    > * Blinky the Shark wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    >> Jim Beard wrote:
    >>> SINNER wrote:
    >>>> * Ed Harley wrote in alt.os.linux.mandriva:
    >>>>> when showing all headers this comes up

    >
    >>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
    >>>>> rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>>>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)

    >
    >>>> Why would it show that if you are using Knode?

    >
    >>> Point!

    >
    >>> I did not bother to look at the headers on the OP, but just assumed he
    >>> was using a browser to post from Google or somewhere.

    >
    >> When I saw "showing all headers" and "HTTP-User-Agend", I figured he was
    >> talking about looking at what is exchanged when he accesses a website
    >> with Firefox. Since he didn't mention anything about a news client.

    >
    > Well, it did say 'X'-HTTP... so I possibly wrongly, that we were talking
    > about newsreaders.
    >



    yes, it shows up like that on my Knode news reader

  20. Re: How do I make this go away

    Moe Trin wrote:

    > On 4 Sep 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandriva, in article
    > , Blinky the Shark wrote:
    >
    >>Moe Trin wrote:

    >
    >>>>> Ed Harley wrote:

    >
    >>>>>> when showing all headers this comes up

    >
    > which is a google search command relating to newsgroup
    >
    >>>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
    >>>>>> rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20061220 Mandriva/1.5.0.10-2mdv2007.0 (2007.0)
    >>>>>> Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> is there any way to stop it from showing my OS?

    >
    >>> That's a header put on by google, so the simple solution is to not use
    >>> google. Google gets this information as part of your HTML connection,
    >>> and you can kick your browser into reporting other values if that's
    >>> important.

    >
    >>He wasn't posting from Google, Moe. He was using Knode.

    >
    > For _this_ thread - correct.
    >
    >>He's talking about browsing.

    >
    > but the only time I've ever seen that header is on google-grope posts,
    > and it's ALWAYS present in those posts. I haven't gone as far as
    > kill-filing google posts in all of the groups I scan (only a few of
    > them), so I see it quite regularly. The way I have slrn configured is
    > (watch the line-wrap)
    >
    > visible_headers "From:,Subject:,Newsgroups:,To:,Followup-To:,Reply-To:,
    > Mail-Copies-To:,Date:,Approved:,X-Newsreader:,User-Agent:,X-Mailer:,
    > X-HTTP-UserAgent:,NNTP-Posting-Host:,Organization:,X-No-Archive:,
    > Last-modified:"
    >
    > and this causes slrn to display the 'X-Newsreader:', 'User-Agent:',
    > 'X-Mailer:' and 'X-HTTP-UserAgent:' headers if they are present. Thus,
    > without pressing the 't' command, I see
    >
    > =========
    > From: Blinky the Shark
    > Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mandriva
    > Subject: Re: How do I make this go away
    > Date: 4 Sep 2007 03:50:57 GMT
    > Organization: http://blinkynet.net
    > User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (Linux)
    > =========
    >
    > The O/P's two posts were from a Hawaiian Telcom IP, and a quick grep
    > through my local news spool doesn't turn up another post in the past
    > six days from 72.234.0.0/15 which is the HAWAIIANTEL-DATA-SERVICES
    > IP block. Likewise, I don't see any posts from the ROADRUNNER-HAWAII,
    > ROADRUNNER-HAWAII2, or EarthLink ERLK-TW-HAWAII03 blocks. Mind you, I
    > am killfiling google-gropers in _some_ Usenet groups, but not all, so I
    > could have missed him posting under another nym. In fact, the only
    > other poster using the string 'Harley' on my spool is a "David Harley"
    > posting from the UK in a Bugtraq mirror newsgroup.
    >
    > Old guy



    you are correct - the original post was to google gtoups and when I looked
    at the headers - using Knode - I was surprised to see all the info.


    sorry I didnt get a chance to check back in on this question, very busy over
    the weekend here.

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