On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:54:51 -0700, Gary G. Taylor wrote:

> I also have, from the Mozilla site, firefox-2.0.0.4.tar.gz
> ... There are supposedly instructions on the Mozilla web site on how to
> install this, apparently by copying the contents of the directory it
> creates when unpacked over existing mozilla files. But which ones, and
> where?

Your choice. I created a partition, /local for my third party apps
because I have a multi-boot system and share it accross different
releases and distributions. Snippet from my admin diary follows:



#************************************************* ****************
#*
#* firefox-2.0.0.4_install.txt
#*
#* Package downloaded from http://www.mozilla.com/
#*
#* Note: install assumes when you do a
#* echo $PATH
#* you see /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin to run the
#* local install instead of the distributions firefox.
#*
#************************************************* ****************

# close all email/browser accounts/apps

Click up a terminal, login as root
su - root

# goto install location

cd /local/opt
tar zxvf /accounts/downloads/firefox-2.0.0.4.tar.gz
mv firefox firefox-2.0.0.4

# move the runtime app's link

cd /usr/local/bin
/bin/rm -f /usr/local/bin/firefox
ln -s /local/opt/firefox-2.0.0.4/firefox /usr/local/bin
ls -al /usr/local/bin

# test as root, run firefox, exit it, run again, exit firefox

cd
pwd
/usr/local/bin/firefox

# If needed, add libs for firefox/thunderbird
urpmi libstdc++5

#****************** end firefox-2.0.0.4_install.txt *************************

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:54:51 +0100, Gary G. Taylor wrote:
>
> I also have, from the Mozilla site, firefox-2.0.0.4.tar.gz ... There are
> supposedly instructions on the Mozilla web site on how to install this,
> apparently by copying the contents of the directory it creates when
> unpacked over existing mozilla files. But which ones, and where?
>
> Assistance, please? System is running mandriva2000, patched currently.
> Thanks.

You can keep mozilla-firefox anywhere you like. When you untar the tarball
it will create a directory "firefox" and will put all the files there. You
can keep the firefox directory in your home directory if you wish. Within
that directory there is a file "firefox". You click on that file to run
firefox. I had untarred the tarball within my hone directory and then
moved the firefox directory, as root, to /opt directory. I have created a
desktop icon linked to /opt/firefox/firefox and run firefox from there. It
is easier to install the tarball version than the .rpm version as there is
no dependency problems.

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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:15:23 +0000, Bit Twister wrote:

> #****************** end firefox-2.0.0.4_install.txt
> *************************

Thanks. I now have 2.0 running. Appreciate it.

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and stupidity." --Frank Zappa, R.A. Heinlein and many others

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:06:16 -0700, Gary G. Taylor wrote:

> Thanks. I now have 2.0 running. Appreciate it.

And I have reverted to 1.5 ... the Doonesbury/Slate page (among others)
crashes 2.0. Gak.

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"The two most abundant substances in the Universe are hydrogen
and stupidity." --Frank Zappa, R.A. Heinlein and many others

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:50:02 -0700, Gary G. Taylor wrote:
>
> And I have reverted to 1.5 ... the Doonesbury/Slate page (among others)
> crashes 2.0. Gak.

what is the url you are using??

On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:08:46 +0000, Bit Twister wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:50:02 -0700, Gary G. Taylor wrote:
>>
>> And I have reverted to 1.5 ... the Doonesbury/Slate page (among others)
>> crashes 2.0. Gak.
>
> what is the url you are using??

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dail...doonpromo.html
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"The two most abundant substances in the Universe are hydrogen
and stupidity." --Frank Zappa, R.A. Heinlein and many others

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:23:19 -0700, Gary G. Taylor wrote:

> And I have reverted to 1.5 ... the Doonesbury/Slate page (among others)
> crashes 2.0. Gak.
>
> http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dail...doonpromo.html


Works for me.
Dailydose page indicates it uses flash and I did enable java.

#********** start Shockwaveflash playser install *********
#*
#* Shockwaveflash player 9 install
#*
#* Download tar file from
#*
#* http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/downl...ShockwaveFlash
#*
#*
#* The following assumes you have setup global environment for
#* Firefox plugins. If not, you use the Firefox plugin's directory.
#*
#* Example snippet from my /local/bin/xx_local.sh. Permissions:
#* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2964 Feb 25 17:23 /local/bin/xx_local.sh
#*
#* xx_local.sh has a link to it from /etc/profile.d
#*
#* #********************************************
#* # set global firefox/mozilla plugin directory
#* #********************************************
#*
#* export MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
#* if [ "$HOME" ]; then
#* export MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=$MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH:$HOME/.mozilla/plugins
#* fi
#*
#************************************************* **********


# close all email/browser accounts/apps
# click up a terminal

su - root

mkdir -p /root/tmp
cd /root/tmp
/bin/rm -rf *flash_player*
tar -xvzf /accounts/downloads/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
cd *flash_player*

../flashplayer-installer
/usr/lib/mozilla
y
n

cp flashplayer.xpt /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
cd
/bin/rm -r /root/tmp/*flash_player*

exit

# to test flash

click up a browser in your user account and click red button to roll
dice at http://sprojects.mmi.mcgill.ca/help/flash_test.htm

#**************** end Shockwaveflash playser install ***************

Bit Twister wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:23:19 -0700, Gary G. Taylor wrote:
>
>> And I have reverted to 1.5 ... the Doonesbury/Slate page (among others)
>> crashes 2.0. Gak.
>>
>> http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dail...doonpromo.html
>
>
> Works for me.
> Dailydose page indicates it uses flash and I did enable java.
>
> #********** start Shockwaveflash playser install *********
> #*
> #* Shockwaveflash player 9 install
> #*
> #* Download tar file from
> #*
> #* http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/downl...ShockwaveFlash
> #*
> #*


I see that's the download link for v31. Flash for Linux still lags
behind Windows. I'm a farmer, and I like to watch the video of
the local TV weather forecast (9wsyr.com) if I happen to miss it on TV.
Up until about two weeks ago, I had no problem doing so, but not any
longer. The station updated their Flash software, and it doesn't work
with Flash Player 9.0 v31 for Linux. Oh, the preliminary ad plays OK,
but it doesn't move on to what I really wanted to see. I complained to
the station and suggested they roll back to the previous version until a
newer one became available for Linux. They politely informed me that
they were sorry but that wasn't possible.

Anybody have any idea when the next flash update will come out for Linux?

TJ

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On 2007-07-02, TJ wrote:
>
> I see that's the download link for v31. Flash for Linux still lags
> behind Windows. I'm a farmer, and I like to watch the video of
> the local TV weather forecast (9wsyr.com) if I happen to miss it on TV.
> Up until about two weeks ago, I had no problem doing so, but not any
> longer. The station updated their Flash software, and it doesn't work
> with Flash Player 9.0 v31 for Linux. Oh, the preliminary ad plays OK,
> but it doesn't move on to what I really wanted to see. I complained to
> the station and suggested they roll back to the previous version until a
> newer one became available for Linux. They politely informed me that
> they were sorry but that wasn't possible.
>
> Anybody have any idea when the next flash update will come out for Linux?

Are you sure the station isn't using Flash for the
preliminary ad and then changing to a format specific to
Windhose Media Player for the feature content? My local
station (kptv.com) appears to do that for some stories.

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Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
> On 2007-07-02, TJ wrote:
>> I see that's the download link for v31. Flash for Linux still lags
>> behind Windows. I'm a farmer, and I like to watch the video of
>> the local TV weather forecast (9wsyr.com) if I happen to miss it on TV.
>> Up until about two weeks ago, I had no problem doing so, but not any
>> longer. The station updated their Flash software, and it doesn't work
>> with Flash Player 9.0 v31 for Linux. Oh, the preliminary ad plays OK,
>> but it doesn't move on to what I really wanted to see. I complained to
>> the station and suggested they roll back to the previous version until a
>> newer one became available for Linux. They politely informed me that
>> they were sorry but that wasn't possible.
>>
>> Anybody have any idea when the next flash update will come out for Linux?
>
> Are you sure the station isn't using Flash for the
> preliminary ad and then changing to a format specific to
> Windhose Media Player for the feature content? My local
> station (kptv.com) appears to do that for some stories.
>
Nope, I don't. All I really know is one week it worked fine, the next it
no longer did. I do remember that the broadcast network sites where you
can view shows did the same thing, until I was able to upgrade to Flash
9.0. Then, they worked fine. However, it's been a while, and I now see
that ABC, at least, requires a Win 2000/XP or Mac version of Firefox to
work.

So maybe I'm just out of luck.

TJ

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On 2007-07-04, TJ wrote:
> Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
>> On 2007-07-02, TJ wrote:
>>> I see that's the download link for v31. Flash for Linux still lags
>>> behind Windows. I'm a farmer, and I like to watch the video of
>>> the local TV weather forecast (9wsyr.com) if I happen to miss it on TV.
>>> Up until about two weeks ago, I had no problem doing so, but not any
>>> longer. The station updated their Flash software, and it doesn't work
>>> with Flash Player 9.0 v31 for Linux. Oh, the preliminary ad plays OK,
>>> but it doesn't move on to what I really wanted to see. I complained to
>>> the station and suggested they roll back to the previous version until a
>>> newer one became available for Linux. They politely informed me that
>>> they were sorry but that wasn't possible.
>>>
>>> Anybody have any idea when the next flash update will come out for Linux?
>>
>> Are you sure the station isn't using Flash for the
>> preliminary ad and then changing to a format specific to
>> Windhose Media Player for the feature content? My local
>> station (kptv.com) appears to do that for some stories.
>>
> Nope, I don't. All I really know is one week it worked fine, the next it
> no longer did. I do remember that the broadcast network sites where you
> can view shows did the same thing, until I was able to upgrade to Flash
> 9.0. Then, they worked fine. However, it's been a while, and I now see
> that ABC, at least, requires a Win 2000/XP or Mac version of Firefox to
> work.
>
> So maybe I'm just out of luck.

Depending on what they're actually sending, there may be a
chance installing some codecs might help. However, that's
just based on my lurking and not from any experience of my
own.

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(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:57:09 -0400, TJ wrote:

I do remember that the broadcast network sites where you
> can view shows did the same thing, until I was able to upgrade to Flash
> 9.0. Then, they worked fine. However, it's been a while, and I now see
> that ABC, at least, requires a Win 2000/XP or Mac version of Firefox to
> work.

http://ll.static.abc.com/streaming/j...20.js?20060502
would seem to suggest flash 8.0.0 or better should work.

It is a pretty tough piece of code. Using agent switcher from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
and it did not like IE 7 Vista.

Bit Twister wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:57:09 -0400, TJ wrote:
>
> I do remember that the broadcast network sites where you
>> can view shows did the same thing, until I was able to upgrade to Flash
>> 9.0. Then, they worked fine. However, it's been a while, and I now see
>> that ABC, at least, requires a Win 2000/XP or Mac version of Firefox to
>> work.
>
> http://ll.static.abc.com/streaming/j...20.js?20060502
> would seem to suggest flash 8.0.0 or better should work.
>
> It is a pretty tough piece of code. Using agent switcher from
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
> and it did not like IE 7 Vista.

I did this: I went to abc.com, then clicked on the link that said
something like "watch episodes." I was immediately taken to a page that
said (again paraphrasing), "Sorry. Our new episode viewer will only work
with Windows 2000/XP IE7, Firefox 2.0.something, and something else, and
Mac Firefox and Safari. Please download one of these browsers and come
back."

Maybe if I changed my Firefox "signature" to look like IE it would work,
but I kinda doubt it. Anyway, I didn't feel like going to all that
trouble last night. I spent years unable to watch weather forecasts
unless I actually caught them on TV. I can do that again.

TJ

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Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
> On 2007-07-04, TJ wrote:
>> Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
>>> On 2007-07-02, TJ wrote:
>>>> I see that's the download link for v31. Flash for Linux still lags
>>>> behind Windows. I'm a farmer, and I like to watch the video of
>>>> the local TV weather forecast (9wsyr.com) if I happen to miss it on TV.
>>>> Up until about two weeks ago, I had no problem doing so, but not any
>>>> longer. The station updated their Flash software, and it doesn't work
>>>> with Flash Player 9.0 v31 for Linux. Oh, the preliminary ad plays OK,
>>>> but it doesn't move on to what I really wanted to see. I complained to
>>>> the station and suggested they roll back to the previous version until a
>>>> newer one became available for Linux. They politely informed me that
>>>> they were sorry but that wasn't possible.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody have any idea when the next flash update will come out for Linux?
>>> Are you sure the station isn't using Flash for the
>>> preliminary ad and then changing to a format specific to
>>> Windhose Media Player for the feature content? My local
>>> station (kptv.com) appears to do that for some stories.
>>>
>> Nope, I don't. All I really know is one week it worked fine, the next it
>> no longer did. I do remember that the broadcast network sites where you
>> can view shows did the same thing, until I was able to upgrade to Flash
>> 9.0. Then, they worked fine. However, it's been a while, and I now see
>> that ABC, at least, requires a Win 2000/XP or Mac version of Firefox to
>> work.
>>
>> So maybe I'm just out of luck.
>
> Depending on what they're actually sending, there may be a
> chance installing some codecs might help. However, that's
> just based on my lurking and not from any experience of my
> own.
>
Yep, it's probably some kind of Windows thing. Yesterday afternoon I
tried booting into Windows 98SE, and after my antivirus program scolded
me for not updating my database for two months, I was able to watch the
videos using Firefox 2.0.0.2 and Flash 9.0 v28. Those were what I
happened to have installed. It worked just fine. So I can watch the
videos if I want to badly enough. I just have to put up with that bad
taste Windows always leaves in my mouth.

TJ

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On 2007-07-05, TJ wrote:
>>
> Yep, it's probably some kind of Windows thing. Yesterday afternoon I
> tried booting into Windows 98SE, and after my antivirus program scolded
> me for not updating my database for two months, I was able to watch the
> videos using Firefox 2.0.0.2 and Flash 9.0 v28. Those were what I
> happened to have installed. It worked just fine. So I can watch the
> videos if I want to badly enough. I just have to put up with that bad
> taste Windows always leaves in my mouth.

Sometimes, several strong mints will help with that. :-)

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On 2007-07-05, TJ wrote:
> Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
>> On 2007-07-04, TJ wrote:
>>> Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
>>>> On 2007-07-02, TJ wrote:

[...]

> Yep, it's probably some kind of Windows thing. Yesterday afternoon I
> tried booting into Windows 98SE, and after my antivirus program scolded
> me for not updating my database for two months, I was able to watch the
> videos using Firefox 2.0.0.2 and Flash 9.0 v28. Those were what I
> happened to have installed. It worked just fine. So I can watch the
> videos if I want to badly enough. I just have to put up with that bad
> taste Windows always leaves in my mouth.
>
> TJ

You might be interested in 'Crossover Office'
. Not 'free', but it does
allow some Windows-only browser plugins (and other things) to be used with
Linux systems. 'Wine' is the free and open-source product associated with
it, but isn't as easy to set up and won't necessarily do all that the
commercial product can do.

If you require the commercial product for your business, then I think in
most countries the cost could be off-set against tax.

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