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  1. weird bug in 2007 install causes freeze-up

    I just freshly installed Mandriva Free 2007
    on an HP Omnibook pIII with 512M and a weird bug
    has made the system unusable. I have tried
    re-installing with no improvement.

    The system installed fine and at first it worked
    fine. But, after a short while of use the
    KSnapshot application opened a window all by
    it self, then another instance of KSnapshot,
    and another and another, etc. until there were
    hundreds of them and the system froze up.

    This happens every time I boot into the system
    despite a number of re-installs.

    I have tried:
    - removing KSnapshot but that didn't work (the
    system just started opening other windows until
    it froze)

    - I've tried using KDE, Gnome and ice

    - I've tried disabling the screen saver

    I have successfully installed another Linux
    system (DreamLinux) on this laptop but would
    prefer Mandriva if possible.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Mac

  2. Re: weird bug in 2007 install causes freeze-up

    Mac wrote:
    > I just freshly installed Mandriva Free 2007
    > on an HP Omnibook pIII with 512M and a weird bug
    > has made the system unusable. I have tried
    > re-installing with no improvement.
    >
    > The system installed fine and at first it worked
    > fine. But, after a short while of use the
    > KSnapshot application opened a window all by
    > it self, then another instance of KSnapshot,
    > and another and another, etc. until there were
    > hundreds of them and the system froze up.
    >
    > This happens every time I boot into the system
    > despite a number of re-installs.
    >
    > I have tried:
    > - removing KSnapshot but that didn't work (the
    > system just started opening other windows until
    > it froze)
    >

    The only time I've seen a similar problem, it turned out to be the
    mouse. Try disabling the pad in the bios, and stick in a USB mouse if
    you have one. That will at least tell you if that is the problem.

    The other possibility (from your description) is that you have a sticky
    return key.

    Donald

  3. Re: weird bug in 2007 install causes freeze-up

    On 2007-04-17, Mac wrote:
    > I just freshly installed Mandriva Free 2007
    > on an HP Omnibook pIII with 512M and a weird bug
    > has made the system unusable. I have tried
    > re-installing with no improvement.
    >
    > The system installed fine and at first it worked
    > fine. But, after a short while of use the
    > KSnapshot application opened a window all by
    > it self, then another instance of KSnapshot,
    > and another and another, etc. until there were
    > hundreds of them and the system froze up.
    >
    > This happens every time I boot into the system
    > despite a number of re-installs.
    >
    > I have tried:
    > - removing KSnapshot but that didn't work (the
    > system just started opening other windows until
    > it froze)
    >
    > - I've tried using KDE, Gnome and ice
    >
    > - I've tried disabling the screen saver
    >
    > I have successfully installed another Linux
    > system (DreamLinux) on this laptop but would
    > prefer Mandriva if possible.
    >
    > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Mac


    It sounds to me as though the touch-pad is detecting un-intended clicks
    (double-taps on the touch-pad). Is there some way to disable the touchpad
    when you aren't using it?

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    -- ~~~~~~~~~~

  4. Re: weird bug in 2007 install causes freeze-up

    On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:50:02 -0400, Mac wrote:

    > The system installed fine and at first it worked
    > fine. But, after a short while of use the
    > KSnapshot application opened a window all by


    My first suspicion would be a keyboard in need of a
    thourough cleaning. ksnapshot, is normally started by
    pressing the PrtScr/SysRq key.

    Different keyboards require different cleaning methods.
    I'd start by trying compressed air.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  5. Re: weird bug in 2007 install causes freeze-up

    David W. Hodgins wrote:
    > On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:50:02 -0400, Mac wrote:
    >
    >> The system installed fine and at first it worked
    >> fine. But, after a short while of use the
    >> KSnapshot application opened a window all by

    >
    > My first suspicion would be a keyboard in need of a
    > thourough cleaning. ksnapshot, is normally started by
    > pressing the PrtScr/SysRq key.
    >
    > Different keyboards require different cleaning methods.
    > I'd start by trying compressed air.
    >
    > Regards, Dave Hodgins
    >


    Well, it's not the touchpad. I tried plugging in
    a PS/2 mouse and re-installed. The system responded
    to that and ignored the touchpad but the problem
    is still there.

    So, I cleaned the keyboard including compressed
    air, especially around the Prnt-Scrn key and
    re-installed. Now it's worse than before. It
    starts popping up KSnapshot as soon as KDE starts.
    So, I guess I DO have short in the Prnt-Scrn key
    since cleaning and poking around there made it
    worse.

    Funny thing though -- when I removed KSnapshot
    before it didn't fix the situation. It would
    pop up other windows (Firefox download
    progress windows).

    Is there a way to get the system to ignore that
    key? I never use it anyway.

    Mac


  6. Re: weird bug in 2007 install causes freeze-up

    Mac a écrit :
    > David W. Hodgins wrote:
    >> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:50:02 -0400, Mac wrote:
    >>
    >>> The system installed fine and at first it worked
    >>> fine. But, after a short while of use the
    >>> KSnapshot application opened a window all by

    >>
    >> My first suspicion would be a keyboard in need of a
    >> thourough cleaning. ksnapshot, is normally started by
    >> pressing the PrtScr/SysRq key.
    >>
    >> Different keyboards require different cleaning methods.
    >> I'd start by trying compressed air.
    >>
    >> Regards, Dave Hodgins
    >>

    >
    > Well, it's not the touchpad. I tried plugging in
    > a PS/2 mouse and re-installed. The system responded
    > to that and ignored the touchpad but the problem
    > is still there.
    >
    > So, I cleaned the keyboard including compressed
    > air, especially around the Prnt-Scrn key and
    > re-installed. Now it's worse than before. It
    > starts popping up KSnapshot as soon as KDE starts.
    > So, I guess I DO have short in the Prnt-Scrn key
    > since cleaning and poking around there made it
    > worse.
    >
    > Funny thing though -- when I removed KSnapshot
    > before it didn't fix the situation. It would
    > pop up other windows (Firefox download
    > progress windows).
    >
    > Is there a way to get the system to ignore that
    > key? I never use it anyway.
    >
    > Mac
    >

    This sounds like the repeat key problem. Try to do Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then
    Ctrl-Alt-F7. There have been problems on some systems with this. You can
    read more on this on the forums page here:

    http://forum.club.mandriva.com/viewt...=322914#322914

    Marc

  7. Re: weird bug in 2007 install causes freeze-up

    Marc Paré wrote:
    > Mac a écrit :
    >> David W. Hodgins wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:50:02 -0400, Mac wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> The system installed fine and at first it worked
    >>>> fine. But, after a short while of use the
    >>>> KSnapshot application opened a window all by
    >>>
    >>> My first suspicion would be a keyboard in need of a
    >>> thourough cleaning. ksnapshot, is normally started by
    >>> pressing the PrtScr/SysRq key.
    >>>
    >>> Different keyboards require different cleaning methods.
    >>> I'd start by trying compressed air.
    >>>
    >>> Regards, Dave Hodgins
    >>>

    >>
    >> Well, it's not the touchpad. I tried plugging in
    >> a PS/2 mouse and re-installed. The system responded
    >> to that and ignored the touchpad but the problem
    >> is still there.
    >>
    >> So, I cleaned the keyboard including compressed
    >> air, especially around the Prnt-Scrn key and
    >> re-installed. Now it's worse than before. It
    >> starts popping up KSnapshot as soon as KDE starts.
    >> So, I guess I DO have short in the Prnt-Scrn key
    >> since cleaning and poking around there made it
    >> worse.
    >>
    >> Funny thing though -- when I removed KSnapshot
    >> before it didn't fix the situation. It would
    >> pop up other windows (Firefox download
    >> progress windows).
    >>
    >> Is there a way to get the system to ignore that
    >> key? I never use it anyway.
    >>
    >> Mac
    >>

    > This sounds like the repeat key problem. Try to do Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then
    > Ctrl-Alt-F7. There have been problems on some systems with this. You can
    > read more on this on the forums page here:
    >
    > http://forum.club.mandriva.com/viewt...=322914#322914
    >
    > Marc


    Thanks for replying. I tried this but no go.

    I also tried the new Mandriva Spring edition and it
    did the same thing. I even tried Mandriva 2006 and
    it was even worse - not only did it do the multiple
    window thing, it also made a continuous screeching
    noise from the speakers whenever it booted up.

    I have previously used Mandrake systems and loved
    them but I don't have the patience to debug these
    Mandriva OSes.

    Then I tried 3 other distros: Ubuntu, Kubuntu and
    Vector, all latest editions. All 3 crashed
    mid-install repeatedly.

    Maybe there's something wrong with this laptop
    but I found 2 distros that installed and ran fine:
    DreamLinux and Mepis. I'll have to go with
    one of these as I am running out of patience.

    Thanks for all the replies.

    Mac

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