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  1. bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    I've just _upgraded_ two machines from 2006 to 2007, with one there's
    no problem but on the other when first booted you can't type anything
    in the login window in gdm, move the mouse around and try to activate
    keyboard focus - nothing! However as soon as is typed then piles
    of ='s appear in the text box!?

    I can get out of it by Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then back to C-A-F7 when it
    then behaves more rationally, has anyone else seen this?

    Robert
    --
    La grenouille songe..dans son château d'eau
    Links and things http://rmstar.blogspot.com/

  2. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:12:36 GMT, Robert Marshall wrote:
    > I've just _upgraded_ two machines from 2006 to 2007, with one there's
    > no problem but on the other when first booted you can't type anything
    > in the login window in gdm, move the mouse around and try to activate
    > keyboard focus - nothing! However as soon as is typed then piles
    > of ='s appear in the text box!?
    >
    > I can get out of it by Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then back to C-A-F7 when it
    > then behaves more rationally, has anyone else seen this?


    I have seen people have problems with upgrades and clean install made
    the problems go away.

    Have yo looked through the errata about the utf8 issues.
    http://wiki.mandriva.com/Releases/Mandriva/2007/Errata

  3. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:12:36 +0000, Robert Marshall wrote:

    > I've just _upgraded_ two machines from 2006 to 2007, with one there's no
    > problem but on the other when first booted you can't type anything in
    > the login window in gdm, move the mouse around and try to activate
    > keyboard focus - nothing! However as soon as is typed then piles of
    > ='s appear in the text box!?
    >
    > I can get out of it by Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then back to C-A-F7 when it then
    > behaves more rationally, has anyone else seen this?
    >
    > Robert


    I seem to recall that some folks had similar problems with KDM installs
    as well when 2007 was released. For some folks, reinstalling kdm fixed
    the problem and for others, deleting a corrupted kdmrc file fixed it.
    I don't use GDM but perhaps trying similar types of fixes might solve
    your problem.

  4. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On 10 Apr 2007, Bit Twister wrote:

    > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:12:36 GMT, Robert Marshall wrote:
    >> I've just _upgraded_ two machines from 2006 to 2007, with one
    >> there's no problem but on the other when first booted you can't
    >> type anything in the login window in gdm, move the mouse around and
    >> try to activate keyboard focus - nothing! However as soon as
    >> is typed then piles of ='s appear in the text box!?
    >>
    >> I can get out of it by Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then back to C-A-F7 when it
    >> then behaves more rationally, has anyone else seen this?

    >
    > I have seen people have problems with upgrades and clean install
    > made the problems go away.
    >
    > Have yo looked through the errata about the utf8 issues.
    > http://wiki.mandriva.com/Releases/Mandriva/2007/Errata


    Though the main utf8 issue appears to relate to installing rather than
    upgrading (and not zapping /home)

    I tend to prefer upgrading - maybe putting back all the settings into
    /etc isn't so much work as it was, though I tend to want to keep
    /var/spool - what do you do with /var when you do a clean install?
    backup the relevant bits and then overwrite the fresh files?

    Robert
    --
    La grenouille songe..dans son château d'eau
    Links and things http://rmstar.blogspot.com/

  5. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:40:47 +0100, Robert Marshall wrote:
    > On 10 Apr 2007, Bit Twister wrote:


    >> I have seen people have problems with upgrades and clean install
    >> made the problems go away.

    >
    > I tend to prefer upgrading - maybe putting back all the settings into
    > /etc isn't so much work as it was,


    New release of apps using /etc may have new config files which are
    incompatible with old release config files. I'll just run through a
    wizard or just edit the new files to add my changes.

    I keep an admin diary for my custom changes. That allows me to
    cut/paste command and data. Example snippet.

    cp /etc/sysctl.conf /etc/sysctl.conf_orig
    edt /etc/sysctl.conf
    change
    net.ipv4.icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses=0
    to net.ipv4.icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses=1

    # add to bottom of file

    net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects=0
    net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_source_route=0
    net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies=1
    # sysctl -p to reload sysctl.conf changes

    #*************** end /etc/sysctl.conf ***************************

    click save/quit

    > though I tend to want to keep
    > /var/spool - what do you do with /var when you do a clean install?


    There is nothing in my /var which I need to keep. Except for my custom
    partitions everything, but swap, is in /

    > backup the relevant bits and then overwrite the fresh files?


    Since I have a multi-boot setup, I can always compare the last release
    files with the new install to see what changed. I can also copy from
    the /old_rel/wherever to /wherever if required.


  6. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On 14 Apr 2007, Bit Twister wrote:

    > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:40:47 +0100, Robert Marshall wrote:
    >> On 10 Apr 2007, Bit Twister wrote:

    >
    >>> I have seen people have problems with upgrades and clean install
    >>> made the problems go away.

    >>
    >> I tend to prefer upgrading - maybe putting back all the settings
    >> into /etc isn't so much work as it was,

    >
    > New release of apps using /etc may have new config files which are
    > incompatible with old release config files. I'll just run through a
    > wizard or just edit the new files to add my changes.
    >


    Yes I hear that one and I try to look through the rpmnew files that get
    left around by the upgrade

    > I keep an admin diary for my custom changes. That allows me to
    > cut/paste command and data.


    Good practice - must get it going. I used to have an upgrade checklist
    which I've temporarily mislaid... :-( I've been on the verge of
    putting modified /etc files into cvs a few times and that would also
    make putting back config changes a little easier

    >
    >> though I tend to want to keep
    >> /var/spool - what do you do with /var when you do a clean install?

    >
    > There is nothing in my /var which I need to keep. Except for my
    > custom partitions everything, but swap, is in /


    I have stuff in /var/spool/mail - users accessing this machine via
    imap not just new email - a local news server in /var/spool/news and
    bits of blogging s/w in /var/www so it is not so easy though I suppose
    a copy across might work well


    >
    >> backup the relevant bits and then overwrite the fresh files?

    >
    > Since I have a multi-boot setup, I can always compare the last
    > release files with the new install to see what changed. I can also
    > copy from the /old_rel/wherever to /wherever if required.


    Me2 *when* I do a fresh install

    Robert
    --
    La grenouille songe..dans son château d'eau
    Links and things http://rmstar.blogspot.com/

  7. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:12:26 GMT, Robert Marshall wrote:
    >
    > Yes I hear that one and I try to look through the rpmnew files that get
    > left around by the upgrade


    Yes, and I always check for those on normal updates to current release.

    > Good practice - must get it going. I used to have an upgrade checklist
    > which I've temporarily mislaid... :-( I've been on the verge of
    > putting modified /etc files into cvs a few times and that would also
    > make putting back config changes a little easier


    That would just make for more backup for me.
    Old release data become useless after about the third release.

    > I have stuff in /var/spool/mail - users accessing this machine via
    > imap not just new email


    I was guessing that from your question. My email accounts pull/delete the
    mail from the spool and are in the user account. Then again when there
    is just me, it is pretty easy to sync up.

    > - a local news server in /var/spool/news and
    > bits of blogging s/w in /var/www so it is not so easy though I suppose
    > a copy across might work well


    I have not played with a news spool or blogs.
    I would try to have spool/blogs in a separate directory/partition.

    I have separate login accounts for each of my internet activities and
    gnucash. Those are on a separate partition. My account's UID/GID are
    1500 and up.
    I wrote a little script to pull/extract their lines from /etc group,
    gshadow, passwd, and shadow.

    During install I just append them from the last backup run.
    cat /rst/site/config/group_1500 >> /etc/group
    cat /rst/site/config/gshadow_1500 >> /etc/gshadow
    cat /rst/site/config/passwd_1500 >> /etc/passwd
    cat /rst/site/config/shadow_1500 >> /etc/shadow


  8. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On Apr 10, 11:12 pm, Robert Marshall
    wrote:
    > I can get out of it by Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then back to C-A-F7 when it
    > then behaves more rationally, has anyone else seen this?


    Got the same problem - MAndriva 2007, fresh install, but I don't
    remember if I hadn't copied my home folder.
    I observed that when I change sth in motiv menager the problem
    vanishes.
    The other thing is netprofiles - which I use a lot (switching from
    work to home network and back). This problem arises sometimes after
    such operation. (and sometimes not - strange).

    I hope next release of mandriva will be not so buggy 'cause currently
    I am testing ubuntu (I am loosing patience).

    Mateusz



  9. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On 16 Apr 2007, mati wrote:

    > On Apr 10, 11:12 pm, Robert Marshall
    > wrote:
    >> I can get out of it by Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then back to C-A-F7 when it
    >> then behaves more rationally, has anyone else seen this?

    >
    > Got the same problem - MAndriva 2007, fresh install, but I don't
    > remember if I hadn't copied my home folder.


    I've tried reinstalling gdm as suggested by George Czerw but that
    hasn't fixed it

    > I observed that when I change sth in motiv menager the problem
    > vanishes.


    sth?

    Though the problem only appears - for me - once per boot of the machine

    Robert
    --
    La grenouille songe..dans son château d'eau
    Links and things http://rmstar.blogspot.com/

  10. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Robert Marshall wrote:

    > On 16 Apr 2007, mati wrote:
    >
    >> On Apr 10, 11:12 pm, Robert Marshall
    >> wrote:
    >>> I can get out of it by Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then back to C-A-F7 when it
    >>> then behaves more rationally, has anyone else seen this?

    >>
    >> Got the same problem - MAndriva 2007, fresh install, but I don't
    >> remember if I hadn't copied my home folder.

    >
    > I've tried reinstalling gdm as suggested by George Czerw but that
    > hasn't fixed it
    >


    Also on this - I see that if I'm really quick after the machine has
    booted I can type my username into the gdm login, the keyboard then
    will stop responding (until after the C-A-F1 trick) after a character
    of so of the password.

    I think it is something - other than gdm - grabbing the keyboard during
    the boot up process

    Robert
    --
    La grenouille songe..dans son château d'eau
    Links and things http://rmstar.blogspot.com/

  11. Re: bizarre gdm behaviour after upgrade

    On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, George Czerw wrote:

    > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:12:36 +0000, Robert Marshall wrote:
    >
    >> I've just _upgraded_ two machines from 2006 to 2007, with one
    >> there's no problem but on the other when first booted you can't
    >> type anything in the login window in gdm, move the mouse around and
    >> try to activate keyboard focus - nothing! However as soon as
    >> is typed then piles of ='s appear in the text box!?
    >>
    >> I can get out of it by Ctrl-Alt-F1 and then back to C-A-F7 when it
    >> then behaves more rationally, has anyone else seen this?

    >
    > I seem to recall that some folks had similar problems with KDM
    > installs as well when 2007 was released. For some folks,
    > reinstalling kdm fixed the problem and for others, deleting a
    > corrupted kdmrc file fixed it. I don't use GDM but perhaps trying
    > similar types of fixes might solve your problem.


    A long time since but after a discussion on the mandriva expert list a
    bug has been filed on the xorg list

    https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12186

    but so far there's no comment

    there appear to be some other workarounds - making sure that all
    entries in fstab are valid but that doesn't work for me

    Robert
    --
    La grenouille songe..dans son château d'eau
    Links and things http://rmstar.blogspot.com/

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