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  1. laptop external display over rides the internal display

    I am trying to get the external display to show what is on the internal
    display without takeingover from the lcd or makeing the x server restart.

    I am using a compaq presario 2100 laptop

    I want to be able to just plug in the external monitor or tv and have it
    just work, without haveing to restart anything, meening my desktop stays
    on the internal display and shows up on the external monitor, I do not
    want x to restart like it is doing to me now.

    I need the internal display to stay on so I can see what I am dooing
    when rinning a presintation or somthing, I can't see to well so loosing
    the internal display makes it near imposible to use my computer!!, that
    and the x server restarting when I hoockup the monitor is annoying.

    I don't care if I force the video chip into thinking that all 3 displays
    are connected all the time, I want the same x session displayed on all
    of them, clone mode, mot multihead.

    the guts of the xorg.conf file

    # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)

    # ************************************************** ********************
    # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    # this file.
    # ************************************************** ********************

    Section "Files"
    # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    FontPath "unix/:-1"

    # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    EndSection

    Section "Extensions"
    Option "Composite"
    EndSection

    Section "ServerFlags"
    #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the
    mouse does not work
    #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    EndSection

    Section "Module"
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    Load "extmod"
    Load "type1"
    Load "freetype"
    Load "dri" # direct rendering
    Load "glx" # 3D layer
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Keyboard1"
    Driver "kbd"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse1"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    Driver "synaptics"
    Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    EndSection

    Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Generic"
    ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    HorizSync 31.5-55
    VertRefresh 40-70

    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630

    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    EndSection

    Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    Driver "ati"
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    Option "BIOSHotkeys" "true"
    option "clone" "true"
    EndSection

    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 8
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 15
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 24
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    EndSection

    Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    Option "AIGLX" "true"
    Screen "screen1"
    EndSection

  2. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display

    On Apr 10, 12:12 am, chris gareau wrote:
    > I am trying to get the external display to show what is on the internal
    > display without takeingover from the lcd or makeing the x server restart.
    >
    > I am using a compaq presario 2100 laptop
    >
    > I want to be able to just plug in the external monitor or tv and have it
    > just work, without haveing to restart anything, meening my desktop stays
    > on the internal display and shows up on the external monitor, I do not
    > want x to restart like it is doing to me now.
    >
    > I need the internal display to stay on so I can see what I am dooing
    > when rinning a presintation or somthing, I can't see to well so loosing
    > the internal display makes it near imposible to use my computer!!, that
    > and the x server restarting when I hoockup the monitor is annoying.
    >
    > I don't care if I force the video chip into thinking that all 3 displays
    > are connected all the time, I want the same x session displayed on all
    > of them, clone mode, mot multihead.
    >
    > the guts of the xorg.conf file
    >
    > # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)
    >
    > # ************************************************** ********************
    > # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    > # this file.
    > # ************************************************** ********************
    >
    > Section "Files"
    > # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    > FontPath "unix/:-1"
    >
    > # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Extensions"
    > Option "Composite"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "ServerFlags"
    > #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    > AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the
    > mouse does not work
    > #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Module"
    > Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    > Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    > Load "extmod"
    > Load "type1"
    > Load "freetype"
    > Load "dri" # direct rendering
    > Load "glx" # 3D layer
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "InputDevice"
    > Identifier "Keyboard1"
    > Driver "kbd"
    > Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    > Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "InputDevice"
    > Identifier "Mouse1"
    > Driver "mouse"
    > Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "InputDevice"
    > Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    > Driver "synaptics"
    > Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Monitor"
    > Identifier "monitor1"
    > VendorName "Generic"
    > ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    > HorizSync 31.5-55
    > VertRefresh 40-70
    >
    > # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    > # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    > ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
    >
    > # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    > ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Device"
    > Identifier "device1"
    > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    > BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    > Driver "ati"
    > Option "DPMS"
    > Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    > Option "BIOSHotkeys" "true"
    > option "clone" "true"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Screen"
    > Identifier "screen1"
    > Device "device1"
    > Monitor "monitor1"
    > DefaultColorDepth 24
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 8
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 15
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 16
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 24
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "ServerLayout"
    > Identifier "layout1"
    > InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    > InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    > InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    > Option "AIGLX" "true"
    > Screen "screen1"
    > EndSection


    Just a guess, having played with the various xinerama options for
    quite a bit, but there is no entry anywhere in your conf file for a
    second monitor (sorry but the mere mention of clone just doesn't make
    it so) and I believe plugging in a second one causes your X to freak
    and forces it to choose one and only one. If you're lucky and you
    always get to plug in the SAME external monitor, put in the entries
    for Monitor and Screen for the second one.

    There's a lot of stuff to be found (good ones) when you google 'Ubuntu
    forum' or 'Gentoo' and xinerama; HTH.


  3. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display



    shedied@gmail.com wrote:
    > On Apr 10, 12:12 am, chris gareau wrote:
    >> I am trying to get the external display to show what is on the internal
    >> display without takeingover from the lcd or makeing the x server restart.
    >>
    >> I am using a compaq presario 2100 laptop
    >>
    >> I want to be able to just plug in the external monitor or tv and have it
    >> just work, without haveing to restart anything, meening my desktop stays
    >> on the internal display and shows up on the external monitor, I do not
    >> want x to restart like it is doing to me now.
    >>
    >> I need the internal display to stay on so I can see what I am dooing
    >> when rinning a presintation or somthing, I can't see to well so loosing
    >> the internal display makes it near imposible to use my computer!!, that
    >> and the x server restarting when I hoockup the monitor is annoying.
    >>
    >> I don't care if I force the video chip into thinking that all 3 displays
    >> are connected all the time, I want the same x session displayed on all
    >> of them, clone mode, mot multihead.
    >>
    >> the guts of the xorg.conf file
    >>
    >> # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)
    >>
    >> # ************************************************** ********************
    >> # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    >> # this file.
    >> # ************************************************** ********************
    >>
    >> Section "Files"
    >> # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    >> FontPath "unix/:-1"
    >>
    >> # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    >> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "Extensions"
    >> Option "Composite"
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "ServerFlags"
    >> #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    >> AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the
    >> mouse does not work
    >> #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "Module"
    >> Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    >> Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    >> Load "extmod"
    >> Load "type1"
    >> Load "freetype"
    >> Load "dri" # direct rendering
    >> Load "glx" # 3D layer
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "InputDevice"
    >> Identifier "Keyboard1"
    >> Driver "kbd"
    >> Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    >> Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    >> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "InputDevice"
    >> Identifier "Mouse1"
    >> Driver "mouse"
    >> Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    >> Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "InputDevice"
    >> Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    >> Driver "synaptics"
    >> Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "Monitor"
    >> Identifier "monitor1"
    >> VendorName "Generic"
    >> ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    >> HorizSync 31.5-55
    >> VertRefresh 40-70
    >>
    >> # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    >> # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    >> ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
    >>
    >> # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    >> ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "Device"
    >> Identifier "device1"
    >> VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    >> BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    >> Driver "ati"
    >> Option "DPMS"
    >> Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    >> Option "BIOSHotkeys" "true"
    >> option "clone" "true"
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "Screen"
    >> Identifier "screen1"
    >> Device "device1"
    >> Monitor "monitor1"
    >> DefaultColorDepth 24
    >>
    >> Subsection "Display"
    >> Depth 8
    >> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >> EndSubsection
    >>
    >> Subsection "Display"
    >> Depth 15
    >> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >> EndSubsection
    >>
    >> Subsection "Display"
    >> Depth 16
    >> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >> EndSubsection
    >>
    >> Subsection "Display"
    >> Depth 24
    >> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >> EndSubsection
    >> EndSection
    >>
    >> Section "ServerLayout"
    >> Identifier "layout1"
    >> InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    >> InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    >> InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    >> Option "AIGLX" "true"
    >> Screen "screen1"
    >> EndSection

    >
    > Just a guess, having played with the various xinerama options for
    > quite a bit, but there is no entry anywhere in your conf file for a
    > second monitor (sorry but the mere mention of clone just doesn't make
    > it so) and I believe plugging in a second one causes your X to freak
    > and forces it to choose one and only one. If you're lucky and you
    > always get to plug in the SAME external monitor, put in the entries
    > for Monitor and Screen for the second one.
    >
    > There's a lot of stuff to be found (good ones) when you google 'Ubuntu
    > forum' or 'Gentoo' and xinerama; HTH.
    >

    thanks for the help it is almost working the way I want it to

    I can see what is going on on both screens but, I can't hotplug without
    x restarting.

    when I plug in the external moniter I get a breef glimps of what is on
    the lcd but then x restarts on me.

    how can I stop x.org restarting when I atache the second displar, and
    for that matter force the second moniter on evin when there is nothing
    in the port to facilitate the hot pluging.

    my xorg.conf file

    # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)

    # ************************************************** ********************
    # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    # this file.
    # ************************************************** ********************

    Section "Files"
    # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    FontPath "unix/:-1"

    # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    EndSection

    Section "Extensions"
    Option "Composite"
    EndSection

    Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "Xinerama" "true"
    #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the
    mouse does not work
    #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    EndSection

    Section "Module"
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    Load "extmod"
    Load "type1"
    Load "freetype"
    Load "dri" # direct rendering
    Load "glx" # 3D layer
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Keyboard1"
    Driver "kbd"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse1"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    Driver "synaptics"
    Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    EndSection

    Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Generic"
    ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    HorizSync 31.5-55
    VertRefresh 40-70

    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630

    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    EndSection

    Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor2"
    VendorName "Generic"
    ModelName "svga 1024x768"
    HorizSync 31.5-55
    VertRefresh 40-70

    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630

    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    EndSection

    Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    Driver "ati"
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    Option "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
    Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT"
    Option "MergedFB" "off"

    Option "CRT2Position" "clone"
    EndSection


    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 8
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 15
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 24
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    EndSection

    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen2"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor2"
    DefaultColorDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 8
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 15
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection

    Subsection "Display"
    Depth 24
    Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    EndSection


    Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    Option "AIGLX" "true"
    Screen "screen1"
    screen "screen2" rightof "screen1"
    EndSection

  4. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display



    chris gareau wrote:
    >
    >
    > shedied@gmail.com wrote:
    >> On Apr 10, 12:12 am, chris gareau wrote:
    >>> I am trying to get the external display to show what is on the internal
    >>> display without takeingover from the lcd or makeing the x server
    >>> restart.
    >>>
    >>> I am using a compaq presario 2100 laptop
    >>>
    >>> I want to be able to just plug in the external monitor or tv and have it
    >>> just work, without haveing to restart anything, meening my desktop stays
    >>> on the internal display and shows up on the external monitor, I do not
    >>> want x to restart like it is doing to me now.
    >>>
    >>> I need the internal display to stay on so I can see what I am dooing
    >>> when rinning a presintation or somthing, I can't see to well so loosing
    >>> the internal display makes it near imposible to use my computer!!, that
    >>> and the x server restarting when I hoockup the monitor is annoying.
    >>>
    >>> I don't care if I force the video chip into thinking that all 3 displays
    >>> are connected all the time, I want the same x session displayed on all
    >>> of them, clone mode, mot multihead.
    >>>
    >>> the guts of the xorg.conf file
    >>>
    >>> # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)
    >>>
    >>> # ************************************************** ********************
    >>> # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    >>> # this file.
    >>> # ************************************************** ********************
    >>>
    >>> Section "Files"
    >>> # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    >>> FontPath "unix/:-1"
    >>>
    >>> # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    >>> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "Extensions"
    >>> Option "Composite"
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "ServerFlags"
    >>> #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    >>> AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the
    >>> mouse does not work
    >>> #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "Module"
    >>> Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    >>> Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    >>> Load "extmod"
    >>> Load "type1"
    >>> Load "freetype"
    >>> Load "dri" # direct rendering
    >>> Load "glx" # 3D layer
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>> Identifier "Keyboard1"
    >>> Driver "kbd"
    >>> Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    >>> Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    >>> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>> Identifier "Mouse1"
    >>> Driver "mouse"
    >>> Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    >>> Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>> Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    >>> Driver "synaptics"
    >>> Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "Monitor"
    >>> Identifier "monitor1"
    >>> VendorName "Generic"
    >>> ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    >>> HorizSync 31.5-55
    >>> VertRefresh 40-70
    >>>
    >>> # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    >>> # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    >>> ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590
    >>> 595 630
    >>>
    >>> # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    >>> ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578
    >>> 590 616
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "Device"
    >>> Identifier "device1"
    >>> VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    >>> BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    >>> Driver "ati"
    >>> Option "DPMS"
    >>> Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    >>> Option "BIOSHotkeys" "true"
    >>> option "clone" "true"
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "Screen"
    >>> Identifier "screen1"
    >>> Device "device1"
    >>> Monitor "monitor1"
    >>> DefaultColorDepth 24
    >>>
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 8
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    >>> "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>>
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 15
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    >>> "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>>
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 16
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    >>> "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>>
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 24
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    >>> "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>> EndSection
    >>>
    >>> Section "ServerLayout"
    >>> Identifier "layout1"
    >>> InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    >>> InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    >>> InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    >>> Option "AIGLX" "true"
    >>> Screen "screen1"
    >>> EndSection

    >>
    >> Just a guess, having played with the various xinerama options for
    >> quite a bit, but there is no entry anywhere in your conf file for a
    >> second monitor (sorry but the mere mention of clone just doesn't make
    >> it so) and I believe plugging in a second one causes your X to freak
    >> and forces it to choose one and only one. If you're lucky and you
    >> always get to plug in the SAME external monitor, put in the entries
    >> for Monitor and Screen for the second one.
    >>
    >> There's a lot of stuff to be found (good ones) when you google 'Ubuntu
    >> forum' or 'Gentoo' and xinerama; HTH.
    >>

    > thanks for the help it is almost working the way I want it to
    >
    > I can see what is going on on both screens but, I can't hotplug without
    > x restarting.
    >
    > when I plug in the external moniter I get a breef glimps of what is on
    > the lcd but then x restarts on me.
    >
    > how can I stop x.org restarting when I atache the second displar, and
    > for that matter force the second moniter on evin when there is nothing
    > in the port to facilitate the hot pluging.
    >
    > my xorg.conf file
    >
    > # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)
    >
    > # ************************************************** ********************
    > # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    > # this file.
    > # ************************************************** ********************
    >
    > Section "Files"
    > # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    > FontPath "unix/:-1"
    >
    > # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Extensions"
    > Option "Composite"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "ServerFlags"
    > Option "Xinerama" "true"
    > #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    > AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
    > does not work
    > #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Module"
    > Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    > Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    > Load "extmod"
    > Load "type1"
    > Load "freetype"
    > Load "dri" # direct rendering
    > Load "glx" # 3D layer
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "InputDevice"
    > Identifier "Keyboard1"
    > Driver "kbd"
    > Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    > Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "InputDevice"
    > Identifier "Mouse1"
    > Driver "mouse"
    > Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "InputDevice"
    > Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    > Driver "synaptics"
    > Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Monitor"
    > Identifier "monitor1"
    > VendorName "Generic"
    > ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    > HorizSync 31.5-55
    > VertRefresh 40-70
    >
    > # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    > # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    > ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
    >
    > # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    > ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Monitor"
    > Identifier "monitor2"
    > VendorName "Generic"
    > ModelName "svga 1024x768"
    > HorizSync 31.5-55
    > VertRefresh 40-70
    >
    > # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    > # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    > ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
    >
    > # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    > ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Device"
    > Identifier "device1"
    > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    > BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    > Driver "ati"
    > Option "DPMS"
    > Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    > Option "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
    > Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT"
    > Option "MergedFB" "off"
    >
    > Option "CRT2Position" "clone"
    > EndSection
    >
    >
    > Section "Screen"
    > Identifier "screen1"
    > Device "device1"
    > Monitor "monitor1"
    > DefaultColorDepth 24
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 8
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 15
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 16
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 24
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    > EndSection
    >
    > Section "Screen"
    > Identifier "screen2"
    > Device "device1"
    > Monitor "monitor2"
    > DefaultColorDepth 24
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 8
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 15
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 16
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    >
    > Subsection "Display"
    > Depth 24
    > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > EndSubsection
    > EndSection
    >
    >
    > Section "ServerLayout"
    > Identifier "layout1"
    > InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    > InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    > InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    > Option "AIGLX" "true"
    > Screen "screen1"
    > screen "screen2" rightof "screen1"
    > EndSection

    this is what shows up in xorg.0.log when I unplug or plug in the moniter


    Backtrace:
    0: /usr/bin/Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x88) [0x80c7b78]
    1: [0xbfffe420]
    2: /lib/i686/libc.so.6 [0xb7c7b81b]
    3: /lib/i686/libc.so.6(__strtoul_internal+0x46) [0xb7c7b176]
    4: /usr/bin/Xorg [0x80ea679]

    Fatal server error:
    Caught signal 11. Server aborting

    (**) RADEON(0): RADEONLeaveVT
    (**) RADEON(0): RADEONRestore
    (**) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMode()
    (**) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMode(0x823c520)
    (**) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() :
    (**) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0x0fff0f80
    (**) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000
    (**) RADEON(0): Map Changed ! Applying ...
    (**) RADEON(0): Map applied, resetting engine ...
    (**) RADEON(0): Updating display base addresses...
    (**) RADEON(0): Memory map updated.
    (**) RADEON(0): Programming CRTC1, offset: 0x00000000
    (**) RADEON(0): Wrote: 0x0003000e 0x00020013 0x00000000 (0x0000bf00)
    (**) RADEON(0): Wrote: rd=14, fd=19, pd=2
    (**) RADEON(0): Ok, leaving now...


    where is that sig 11 coming from??????

  5. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display

    On Apr 10, 4:33 pm, chris gareau wrote:
    > chris gareau wrote:
    >
    > > shed...@gmail.com wrote:
    > >> On Apr 10, 12:12 am, chris gareau wrote:
    > >>> I am trying to get the external display to show what is on the internal
    > >>> display without takeingover from the lcd or makeing the x server
    > >>> restart.

    >
    > >>> I am using a compaq presario 2100 laptop

    >
    > >>> I want to be able to just plug in the external monitor or tv and haveit
    > >>> just work, without haveing to restart anything, meening my desktop stays
    > >>> on the internal display and shows up on the external monitor, I do not
    > >>> want x to restart like it is doing to me now.

    >
    > >>> I need the internal display to stay on so I can see what I am dooing
    > >>> when rinning a presintation or somthing, I can't see to well so loosing
    > >>> the internal display makes it near imposible to use my computer!!, that
    > >>> and the x server restarting when I hoockup the monitor is annoying.

    >
    > >>> I don't care if I force the video chip into thinking that all 3 displays
    > >>> are connected all the time, I want the same x session displayed on all
    > >>> of them, clone mode, mot multihead.

    >
    > >>> the guts of the xorg.conf file

    >
    > >>> # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)

    >
    > >>> # ************************************************** ********************
    > >>> # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    > >>> # this file.
    > >>> # ************************************************** ********************

    >
    > >>> Section "Files"
    > >>> # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    > >>> FontPath "unix/:-1"

    >
    > >>> # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    > >>> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "Extensions"
    > >>> Option "Composite"
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "ServerFlags"
    > >>> #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    > >>> AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the
    > >>> mouse does not work
    > >>> #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "Module"
    > >>> Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    > >>> Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    > >>> Load "extmod"
    > >>> Load "type1"
    > >>> Load "freetype"
    > >>> Load "dri" # direct rendering
    > >>> Load "glx" # 3D layer
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "InputDevice"
    > >>> Identifier "Keyboard1"
    > >>> Driver "kbd"
    > >>> Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    > >>> Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    > >>> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "InputDevice"
    > >>> Identifier "Mouse1"
    > >>> Driver "mouse"
    > >>> Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    > >>> Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "InputDevice"
    > >>> Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    > >>> Driver "synaptics"
    > >>> Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "Monitor"
    > >>> Identifier "monitor1"
    > >>> VendorName "Generic"
    > >>> ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    > >>> HorizSync 31.5-55
    > >>> VertRefresh 40-70

    >
    > >>> # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    > >>> # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    > >>> ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590
    > >>> 595 630

    >
    > >>> # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    > >>> ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578
    > >>> 590 616
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "Device"
    > >>> Identifier "device1"
    > >>> VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    > >>> BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    > >>> Driver "ati"
    > >>> Option "DPMS"
    > >>> Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    > >>> Option "BIOSHotkeys" "true"
    > >>> option "clone" "true"
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "Screen"
    > >>> Identifier "screen1"
    > >>> Device "device1"
    > >>> Monitor "monitor1"
    > >>> DefaultColorDepth 24

    >
    > >>> Subsection "Display"
    > >>> Depth 8
    > >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    > >>> "320x240"
    > >>> EndSubsection

    >
    > >>> Subsection "Display"
    > >>> Depth 15
    > >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    > >>> "320x240"
    > >>> EndSubsection

    >
    > >>> Subsection "Display"
    > >>> Depth 16
    > >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    > >>> "320x240"
    > >>> EndSubsection

    >
    > >>> Subsection "Display"
    > >>> Depth 24
    > >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    > >>> "320x240"
    > >>> EndSubsection
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >>> Section "ServerLayout"
    > >>> Identifier "layout1"
    > >>> InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    > >>> InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    > >>> InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    > >>> Option "AIGLX" "true"
    > >>> Screen "screen1"
    > >>> EndSection

    >
    > >> Just a guess, having played with the various xinerama options for
    > >> quite a bit, but there is no entry anywhere in your conf file for a
    > >> second monitor (sorry but the mere mention of clone just doesn't make
    > >> it so) and I believe plugging in a second one causes your X to freak
    > >> and forces it to choose one and only one. If you're lucky and you
    > >> always get to plug in the SAME external monitor, put in the entries
    > >> for Monitor and Screen for the second one.

    >
    > >> There's a lot of stuff to be found (good ones) when you google 'Ubuntu
    > >> forum' or 'Gentoo' and xinerama; HTH.

    >
    > > thanks for the help it is almost working the way I want it to

    >
    > > I can see what is going on on both screens but, I can't hotplug without
    > > x restarting.

    >
    > > when I plug in the external moniter I get a breef glimps of what is on
    > > the lcd but then x restarts on me.

    >
    > > how can I stop x.org restarting when I atache the second displar, and
    > > for that matter force the second moniter on evin when there is nothing
    > > in the port to facilitate the hot pluging.

    >
    > > my xorg.conf file

    >
    > > # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)

    >
    > > # ************************************************** ********************
    > > # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    > > # this file.
    > > # ************************************************** ********************

    >
    > > Section "Files"
    > > # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    > > FontPath "unix/:-1"

    >
    > > # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    > > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "Extensions"
    > > Option "Composite"
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "ServerFlags"
    > > Option "Xinerama" "true"
    > > #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    > > AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
    > > does not work
    > > #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "Module"
    > > Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    > > Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    > > Load "extmod"
    > > Load "type1"
    > > Load "freetype"
    > > Load "dri" # direct rendering
    > > Load "glx" # 3D layer
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "InputDevice"
    > > Identifier "Keyboard1"
    > > Driver "kbd"
    > > Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    > > Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    > > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "InputDevice"
    > > Identifier "Mouse1"
    > > Driver "mouse"
    > > Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    > > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "InputDevice"
    > > Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    > > Driver "synaptics"
    > > Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "Monitor"
    > > Identifier "monitor1"
    > > VendorName "Generic"
    > > ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    > > HorizSync 31.5-55
    > > VertRefresh 40-70

    >
    > > # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    > > # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    > > ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630

    >
    > > # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    > > ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "Monitor"
    > > Identifier "monitor2"
    > > VendorName "Generic"
    > > ModelName "svga 1024x768"
    > > HorizSync 31.5-55
    > > VertRefresh 40-70

    >
    > > # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    > > # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    > > ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630

    >
    > > # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    > > ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "Device"
    > > Identifier "device1"
    > > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    > > BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    > > Driver "ati"
    > > Option "DPMS"
    > > Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    > > Option "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
    > > Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT"
    > > Option "MergedFB" "off"

    >
    > > Option "CRT2Position" "clone"
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "Screen"
    > > Identifier "screen1"
    > > Device "device1"
    > > Monitor "monitor1"
    > > DefaultColorDepth 24

    >
    > > Subsection "Display"
    > > Depth 8
    > > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > > EndSubsection

    >
    > > Subsection "Display"
    > > Depth 15
    > > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > > EndSubsection

    >
    > > Subsection "Display"
    > > Depth 16
    > > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > > EndSubsection

    >
    > > Subsection "Display"
    > > Depth 24
    > > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > > EndSubsection
    > > EndSection

    >
    > > Section "Screen"
    > > Identifier "screen2"
    > > Device "device1"
    > > Monitor "monitor2"
    > > DefaultColorDepth 24

    >
    > > Subsection "Display"
    > > Depth 8
    > > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > > EndSubsection

    >
    > > Subsection "Display"
    > > Depth 15
    > > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > > EndSubsection

    >
    > > Subsection "Display"
    > > Depth 16
    > > Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    > > EndSubsection

    >
    > ...
    >
    > read more


    Another wild guess, the CRT or external CAN do the same res as the
    LCD, but at a different frequency, causing your X to 'blink'. Two
    paths I'd try at this point: reduce the default depth little by ltttle
    to see if that'll work. The other? Reduce the rez, drop down to (yuk,
    I know) 800x600.

    My first graphics card is hooked up to a dual display/CRTs. I also
    have a second graphics card hooked up to a third monitor yet the
    monitor is unplugged, but all the settings are good to go, and I can
    plug it in without an X crash, because I know the display rez on it is
    set down really low for that (remember I use a SPAN type display, not
    clone).


  6. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display



    shedied@gmail.com wrote:
    > On Apr 10, 4:33 pm, chris gareau wrote:
    >> chris gareau wrote:
    >>
    >>> shed...@gmail.com wrote:
    >>>> On Apr 10, 12:12 am, chris gareau wrote:
    >>>>> I am trying to get the external display to show what is on the internal
    >>>>> display without takeingover from the lcd or makeing the x server
    >>>>> restart.
    >>>>> I am using a compaq presario 2100 laptop
    >>>>> I want to be able to just plug in the external monitor or tv and have it
    >>>>> just work, without haveing to restart anything, meening my desktop stays
    >>>>> on the internal display and shows up on the external monitor, I do not
    >>>>> want x to restart like it is doing to me now.
    >>>>> I need the internal display to stay on so I can see what I am dooing
    >>>>> when rinning a presintation or somthing, I can't see to well so loosing
    >>>>> the internal display makes it near imposible to use my computer!!, that
    >>>>> and the x server restarting when I hoockup the monitor is annoying.
    >>>>> I don't care if I force the video chip into thinking that all 3 displays
    >>>>> are connected all the time, I want the same x session displayed on all
    >>>>> of them, clone mode, mot multihead.
    >>>>> the guts of the xorg.conf file
    >>>>> # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)
    >>>>> # ************************************************** ********************
    >>>>> # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    >>>>> # this file.
    >>>>> # ************************************************** ********************
    >>>>> Section "Files"
    >>>>> # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    >>>>> FontPath "unix/:-1"
    >>>>> # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    >>>>> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "Extensions"
    >>>>> Option "Composite"
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "ServerFlags"
    >>>>> #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    >>>>> AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the
    >>>>> mouse does not work
    >>>>> #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "Module"
    >>>>> Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    >>>>> Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    >>>>> Load "extmod"
    >>>>> Load "type1"
    >>>>> Load "freetype"
    >>>>> Load "dri" # direct rendering
    >>>>> Load "glx" # 3D layer
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>>>> Identifier "Keyboard1"
    >>>>> Driver "kbd"
    >>>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    >>>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    >>>>> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>>>> Identifier "Mouse1"
    >>>>> Driver "mouse"
    >>>>> Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    >>>>> Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>>>> Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    >>>>> Driver "synaptics"
    >>>>> Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "Monitor"
    >>>>> Identifier "monitor1"
    >>>>> VendorName "Generic"
    >>>>> ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    >>>>> HorizSync 31.5-55
    >>>>> VertRefresh 40-70
    >>>>> # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    >>>>> # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    >>>>> ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590
    >>>>> 595 630
    >>>>> # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    >>>>> ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578
    >>>>> 590 616
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "Device"
    >>>>> Identifier "device1"
    >>>>> VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    >>>>> BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    >>>>> Driver "ati"
    >>>>> Option "DPMS"
    >>>>> Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    >>>>> Option "BIOSHotkeys" "true"
    >>>>> option "clone" "true"
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "Screen"
    >>>>> Identifier "screen1"
    >>>>> Device "device1"
    >>>>> Monitor "monitor1"
    >>>>> DefaultColorDepth 24
    >>>>> Subsection "Display"
    >>>>> Depth 8
    >>>>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    >>>>> "320x240"
    >>>>> EndSubsection
    >>>>> Subsection "Display"
    >>>>> Depth 15
    >>>>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    >>>>> "320x240"
    >>>>> EndSubsection
    >>>>> Subsection "Display"
    >>>>> Depth 16
    >>>>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    >>>>> "320x240"
    >>>>> EndSubsection
    >>>>> Subsection "Display"
    >>>>> Depth 24
    >>>>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360"
    >>>>> "320x240"
    >>>>> EndSubsection
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>>> Section "ServerLayout"
    >>>>> Identifier "layout1"
    >>>>> InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    >>>>> InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    >>>>> InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    >>>>> Option "AIGLX" "true"
    >>>>> Screen "screen1"
    >>>>> EndSection
    >>>> Just a guess, having played with the various xinerama options for
    >>>> quite a bit, but there is no entry anywhere in your conf file for a
    >>>> second monitor (sorry but the mere mention of clone just doesn't make
    >>>> it so) and I believe plugging in a second one causes your X to freak
    >>>> and forces it to choose one and only one. If you're lucky and you
    >>>> always get to plug in the SAME external monitor, put in the entries
    >>>> for Monitor and Screen for the second one.
    >>>> There's a lot of stuff to be found (good ones) when you google 'Ubuntu
    >>>> forum' or 'Gentoo' and xinerama; HTH.
    >>> thanks for the help it is almost working the way I want it to
    >>> I can see what is going on on both screens but, I can't hotplug without
    >>> x restarting.
    >>> when I plug in the external moniter I get a breef glimps of what is on
    >>> the lcd but then x restarts on me.
    >>> how can I stop x.org restarting when I atache the second displar, and
    >>> for that matter force the second moniter on evin when there is nothing
    >>> in the port to facilitate the hot pluging.
    >>> my xorg.conf file
    >>> # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)
    >>> # ************************************************** ********************
    >>> # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
    >>> # this file.
    >>> # ************************************************** ********************
    >>> Section "Files"
    >>> # font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
    >>> FontPath "unix/:-1"
    >>> # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
    >>> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "Extensions"
    >>> Option "Composite"
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "ServerFlags"
    >>> Option "Xinerama" "true"
    >>> #DontZap # disable (server abort)
    >>> AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
    >>> does not work
    >>> #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "Module"
    >>> Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    >>> Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    >>> Load "extmod"
    >>> Load "type1"
    >>> Load "freetype"
    >>> Load "dri" # direct rendering
    >>> Load "glx" # 3D layer
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>> Identifier "Keyboard1"
    >>> Driver "kbd"
    >>> Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    >>> Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    >>> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>> Identifier "Mouse1"
    >>> Driver "mouse"
    >>> Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    >>> Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "InputDevice"
    >>> Identifier "SynapticsMouse1"
    >>> Driver "synaptics"
    >>> Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "Monitor"
    >>> Identifier "monitor1"
    >>> VendorName "Generic"
    >>> ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768"
    >>> HorizSync 31.5-55
    >>> VertRefresh 40-70
    >>> # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    >>> # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    >>> ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
    >>> # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    >>> ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "Monitor"
    >>> Identifier "monitor2"
    >>> VendorName "Generic"
    >>> ModelName "svga 1024x768"
    >>> HorizSync 31.5-55
    >>> VertRefresh 40-70
    >>> # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    >>> # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    >>> ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
    >>> # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    >>> ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "Device"
    >>> Identifier "device1"
    >>> VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc."
    >>> BoardName "ATI Radeon (fglrx)"
    >>> Driver "ati"
    >>> Option "DPMS"
    >>> Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "1"
    >>> Option "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
    >>> Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT"
    >>> Option "MergedFB" "off"
    >>> Option "CRT2Position" "clone"
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "Screen"
    >>> Identifier "screen1"
    >>> Device "device1"
    >>> Monitor "monitor1"
    >>> DefaultColorDepth 24
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 8
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 15
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 16
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 24
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>> EndSection
    >>> Section "Screen"
    >>> Identifier "screen2"
    >>> Device "device1"
    >>> Monitor "monitor2"
    >>> DefaultColorDepth 24
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 8
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 15
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection
    >>> Subsection "Display"
    >>> Depth 16
    >>> Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    >>> EndSubsection

    >> ...
    >>
    >> read more

    >
    > Another wild guess, the CRT or external CAN do the same res as the
    > LCD, but at a different frequency, causing your X to 'blink'. Two
    > paths I'd try at this point: reduce the default depth little by ltttle
    > to see if that'll work. The other? Reduce the rez, drop down to (yuk,
    > I know) 800x600.
    >
    > My first graphics card is hooked up to a dual display/CRTs. I also
    > have a second graphics card hooked up to a third monitor yet the
    > monitor is unplugged, but all the settings are good to go, and I can
    > plug it in without an X crash, because I know the display rez on it is
    > set down really low for that (remember I use a SPAN type display, not
    > clone).
    >

    as far as I can tell the external monitor is being driven at 1024x768
    60hz like the internal display is showing up as, monitor has a built in
    menu system and can tell me what it is being drivin at.

    same rez same freq.

    can I see a copy of ur xorg.conf file, maybe it will give me an idea.

  7. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display

    On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:34:01 +0000, chris gareau wrote:



    > can I see a copy of ur xorg.conf file, maybe it will give me an idea.


    Will you friggin wankers learn to trim the posts you are responding to?

    Thank you.

    P.S. - try this: man xorg.conf


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  8. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display



    Dan C wrote:
    > On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:34:01 +0000, chris gareau wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >> can I see a copy of ur xorg.conf file, maybe it will give me an idea.

    >
    > Will you friggin wankers learn to trim the posts you are responding to?
    >
    > Thank you.
    >
    > P.S. - try this: man xorg.conf
    >
    >

    the person I asked for a copy of xorg.conf has a video card setup so he
    can just plug in the monitor without causing x to crash, I wanted to
    look at a working config file.

    I have read a hole bunch of man pages for the radeon driver and
    xorg.conf and they haven't helped.

    P.S. - I don't appreciate the rude comment.

  9. :)

    Should have been trimmed after the second post.

    --
    Registered Linux User #267152


  10. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display

    On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:16:14 +0000, chris gareau wrote:

    >> Will you friggin wankers learn to trim the posts you are responding to?


    > the person I asked for a copy of xorg.conf has a video card setup so he
    > can just plug in the monitor without causing x to crash, I wanted to
    > look at a working config file.


    OK, so what does that have to do with you quoting 300 lines of text in
    your post? Do you even understand what I'm talking about here?

    > I have read a hole bunch of man pages for the radeon driver and
    > xorg.conf and they haven't helped.


    I can't help with your reading comprehension problems.

    > P.S. - I don't appreciate the rude comment.


    Noted. I don't appreciate people not following proper posting Netiquette.


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  11. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display

    On Apr 11, 1:34 pm, chris gareau wrote:
    > shed...@gmail.com wrote:
    > > On Apr 10, 4:33 pm, chris gareau wrote:
    > >> chris gareau wrote:




    > as far as I can tell the external monitor is being driven at 1024x768
    > 60hz like the internal display is showing up as, monitor has a built in
    > menu system and can tell me what it is being drivin at.
    >
    > same rez same freq.
    >
    > can I see a copy of ur xorg.conf file, maybe it will give me an idea.


    My laptop, an ancient Thinkpadhas a VGA out that will let it display
    on an external monitor. But during boot I can enable the capability or
    disable it. DOes your laptop have anything similar in the BIOS stage.
    I would leave that feature enabled if you have it, so that it will be
    *expecting* a second monitor in the session, and not send these
    strange SIG11's. Here is my xorg.conf. monitor 3 is the unplugged
    monitor that sits on top of one CRT, in a reverse L layout. The two
    below it share the same card that has a VGA and DVI out but the DVI is
    fitted with a DVI-to-VGA adapter for now.

    Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "stereo"
    Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
    Screen "Screen3" 1776 0
    InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    Option "Xinerama" "on"
    EndSection

    Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "mono"
    Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 769
    InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    Option "Xinerama" "on"
    EndSection

    Section "Files"
    RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
    FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath "unix/:-1"
    EndSection

    Section "Module"
    Load "GLcore"
    Load "dbe"
    Load "dri"
    Load "extmod"
    Load "glx"
    Load "record"
    Load "xtrap"
    Load "radeon"
    Load "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a"
    Load "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Keyboard0"
    Driver "keyboard"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" "en_US"
    Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
    EndSection
    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Mouse0"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "auto"
    Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
    EndSection

    Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "Monitor0"
    VendorName "Sony"
    ModelName "Sony CPD-G500"
    HorizSync 30.0 - 121.0
    VertRefresh 48.0 - 160.0
    Option "DPMS"
    EndSection

    Section "Monitor"
    # Identifier "Monitor1"
    Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[1]"
    VendorName "Plug'n Play"
    ModelName "Unisys EVG-174-COL"
    HorizSync 30.0 - 75.0
    VertRefresh 50.0 - 100.0
    Option "DPMS"
    EndSection

    Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "Monitor3"
    VendorName "Optiquest"
    ModelName "Optiquest Q53"
    HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0
    VertRefresh 50.0 - 100.0
    ModeLine "1024x480" 65.0 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494
    563 -hsync
    -vsync
    ModeLine "1280x800" 147.9 1280 1376 1512 1744 800 801 804
    848
    ModeLine "1680x1050" 214.5 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051
    1054 1103
    ModeLine "1920x1200" 230.0 1920 1936 2096 2528 1200 1201
    1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    ModeLine "768x576" 50.0 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
    ModeLine "768x576" 63.1 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
    EndSection

    Section "Device"

    #VideoRam 63488
    #Option "DisplayPriority" "1"
    # Identifier "Card0"
    Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]"
    Driver "radeon"
    VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
    BoardName "Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]"
    VideoRam 32768
    # ChipId 0x5159
    Option "DesktopSetup" "horizontal"
    Option "OverlayOnCRTC2" "1"
    Option "EnablePrivateBackZ" "on"
    Option "MergedFB" "True"
    Option "MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0" "on"
    Option "CRT2VRefresh" "50.0-120.0"
    Option "CRT2HSync" "30.0-85.0"
    Option "CRT2Position" "RightOf"
    Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
    Option "SWcursor" "True"
    Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT,CRT"
    Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
    Option "AGPMode" "4"
    Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
    Option "DDCMode" "True"
    Option "RenderAccel" "True"
    Option "SubPixelOrder" "NONE"
    Option "ColorTiling" "false"
    Option "PanelOff" "True"
    Option "BusType" "AGP"
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "accel" "1"
    Option "backingstore" "True"
    Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True"
    Option "MetaModes" "1600x1200-1400x1050
    1400x1050-1280x1024 1280x1024-1152x864 1152x864-1152x864"
    # Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024-1280x1024
    1152x864-1152x864"
    BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
    EndSection

    Section "Device"
    Identifier "aticonfig-Device[1]"
    Driver "radeon"
    BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
    Screen 1
    EndSection

    Section "Device"
    #Option "linear" # []
    #Option "composite_sync" # []
    #Option "sw_cursor" # []
    #Option "probe_clocks" # []
    #Option "hw_cursor" # []
    Identifier "Card1"
    Driver "ati"
    VendorName "ATI"
    BoardName "3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB]"
    #ChipSet "ati"
    #ChipId 0x4755
    #ChipRev 0x9a
    Option "accel" "1"
    Option "shadow_fb" "false"
    BusID "PCI:2:11:0"
    EndSection
    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
    Device "aticonfig-Device[0]"
    Monitor "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth 16
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 8
    Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "400x300"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 15
    Modes "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
    "640x480" "400x300"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Virtual 3000 1200
    Depth 16
    Modes "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024"
    "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "400x300"
    Viewport 0 0
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Virtual 1400 1050
    Depth 24
    EndSubSection
    EndSection

    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[1]"
    Device "aticonfig-Device[1]"
    Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[1]"
    DefaultDepth 16
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
    "800x600" "640x480" "400x300"
    Viewport 1601 75
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 24
    EndSubSection
    EndSection

    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen3"
    Device "Card1"
    Monitor "Monitor3"
    DefaultDepth 16
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    DefaultDepth 16
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
    "800x600" "640x480" "400x300"
    Viewport 1601 75
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 24
    EndSubSection
    EndSection

    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen3"
    Device "Card1"
    Monitor "Monitor3"
    DefaultDepth 16
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 1
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 4
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 8
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 15
    Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024"
    "400x300"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    "1280x1024" "400x300"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 24
    EndSubSection
    EndSection
    Section "DRI"
    Mode 0666
    EndSection




  12. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display



    shedied@gmail.com wrote:
    > On Apr 11, 1:34 pm, chris gareau wrote:
    >> shed...@gmail.com wrote:
    >>> On Apr 10, 4:33 pm, chris gareau wrote:
    >>>> chris gareau wrote:

    >
    >
    >
    >> as far as I can tell the external monitor is being driven at 1024x768
    >> 60hz like the internal display is showing up as, monitor has a built in
    >> menu system and can tell me what it is being drivin at.
    >>
    >> same rez same freq.
    >>
    >> can I see a copy of ur xorg.conf file, maybe it will give me an idea.

    >
    > My laptop, an ancient Thinkpadhas a VGA out that will let it display
    > on an external monitor. But during boot I can enable the capability or
    > disable it. DOes your laptop have anything similar in the BIOS stage.
    > I would leave that feature enabled if you have it, so that it will be
    > *expecting* a second monitor in the session, and not send these
    > strange SIG11's. Here is my xorg.conf. monitor 3 is the unplugged
    > monitor that sits on top of one CRT, in a reverse L layout. The two
    > below it share the same card that has a VGA and DVI out but the DVI is
    > fitted with a DVI-to-VGA adapter for now.




    thanx, there is a hotkey for the card that does nothing, is there a way
    to tell the driver that there is a monitor connected to the port even if
    there isn't 1 there????

  13. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display

    On Apr 16, 5:51 pm, chris gareau wrote:

    >
    > thanx, there is a hotkey for the card that does nothing, is there a way
    > to tell the driver that there is a monitor connected to the port even if
    > there isn't 1 there????


    I have a theory on why your X is going bonkers. You say you want clone
    mode but your server layout is more of a wide desktop layout with the
    entry indicating screen2 is right of screen 1. Is this necessary, if
    you simply want it to show the same thing that the other screen is
    showing. The 1024x768 display is already covered by the one display,
    takes up pretty much all of it, leaving the other with nothing to
    display. And it chokes.

    Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    Option "AIGLX" "true"
    Screen "screen1"
    screen "screen2" rightof "screen1"
    EndSection

    And the card being an ATI, I'd probably turn off AIGLX while
    troubleshooting. Turn that on later.


  14. Re: laptop external display over rides the internal display



    shedied@gmail.com wrote:
    > On Apr 16, 5:51 pm, chris gareau wrote:
    >
    >> thanx, there is a hotkey for the card that does nothing, is there a way
    >> to tell the driver that there is a monitor connected to the port even if
    >> there isn't 1 there????

    >
    > I have a theory on why your X is going bonkers. You say you want clone
    > mode but your server layout is more of a wide desktop layout with the
    > entry indicating screen2 is right of screen 1. Is this necessary, if
    > you simply want it to show the same thing that the other screen is
    > showing. The 1024x768 display is already covered by the one display,
    > takes up pretty much all of it, leaving the other with nothing to
    > display. And it chokes.
    >
    > Section "ServerLayout"
    > Identifier "layout1"
    > InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    > InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    > InputDevice "SynapticsMouse1" "AlwaysCore"
    > Option "AIGLX" "true"
    > Screen "screen1"
    > screen "screen2" rightof "screen1"
    > EndSection
    >
    > And the card being an ATI, I'd probably turn off AIGLX while
    > troubleshooting. Turn that on later.
    >

    ok will look into it next time I deside to drag out the extra monitor,
    thanx.

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