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  1. Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    All I wanted at first was the updated KDE and KDevelop.
    It turned out to be painful - Here's what I learned:

    If startx begins to open into KDE, but then you get a "Could not start
    kdeinit, check your installation" message, then take a look at the KDE
    log: ~/.xsession_errors

    I found that art_realloc() wasn't linking dynamically and found
    art_realloc() to be in libart_lgpl2.

    Performing 'urpmi libart_lgpl2' back at the command prompt installed the
    lib and startx kicked off my new working 2007.1 KDE!


    I'd suggest lowering your runlevel to 3, and remember CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
    aborts the X11 server.

    Hope your upgrade goes smoothly!

  2. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:33:41 -0700, Michael A Jones wrote:
    > All I wanted at first was the updated KDE and KDevelop.
    > It turned out to be painful - Here's what I learned:


    I would not recommend partial upgrades. Too many new features and you
    might want to look through
    http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases...a/2007.1/Notes
    http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases.../2007.1/Errata


  3. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    No one recommends upgrading like this. But after a few headaches & much
    knowledge gained I've got a stable system thats got everything I want.

    It's not the easiest way, but it's definitely a way to learn more about
    your system.

    Bit Twister wrote:
    > On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:33:41 -0700, Michael A Jones wrote:
    >> All I wanted at first was the updated KDE and KDevelop.
    >> It turned out to be painful - Here's what I learned:

    >
    > I would not recommend partial upgrades. Too many new features and you
    > might want to look through
    > http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases...a/2007.1/Notes
    > http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases.../2007.1/Errata
    >


  4. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    Michael A Jones wrote:
    > No one recommends upgrading like this. But after a few headaches & much
    > knowledge gained I've got a stable system thats got everything I want.
    >
    > It's not the easiest way, but it's definitely a way to learn more about
    > your system.
    >
    > Bit Twister wrote:
    >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:33:41 -0700, Michael A Jones wrote:
    >>> All I wanted at first was the updated KDE and KDevelop.
    >>> It turned out to be painful - Here's what I learned:

    >>
    >> I would not recommend partial upgrades. Too many new features and you
    >> might want to look through
    >> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases...a/2007.1/Notes
    >> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases.../2007.1/Errata
    >>


    Being on dial-up, what sort of file size would I be looking at to do an
    update of MandrivaLinux 2007 to 2007.1??

    Tks.

    Daniel

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  5. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    On 2007-05-04, Daniel wrote:
    > Michael A Jones wrote:
    >> No one recommends upgrading like this. But after a few headaches & much
    >> knowledge gained I've got a stable system thats got everything I want.
    >>
    >> It's not the easiest way, but it's definitely a way to learn more about
    >> your system.
    >>
    >> Bit Twister wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:33:41 -0700, Michael A Jones wrote:
    >>>> All I wanted at first was the updated KDE and KDevelop.
    >>>> It turned out to be painful - Here's what I learned:
    >>>
    >>> I would not recommend partial upgrades. Too many new features and you
    >>> might want to look through
    >>> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases...a/2007.1/Notes
    >>> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases.../2007.1/Errata
    >>>

    >
    > Being on dial-up, what sort of file size would I be looking at to do an
    > update of MandrivaLinux 2007 to 2007.1??
    >
    > Tks.
    >
    > Daniel


    I think you'd be much better advised to wait for the 'Free' version of
    Mandriva 2007.1 to appear on a magazine DVD.

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    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~

  6. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    On Fri, 04 May 2007 20:30:32 +1000, Daniel wrote:
    >
    > Being on dial-up, what sort of file size would I be looking at to do an
    > update of MandrivaLinux 2007 to 2007.1??



    How long should a piece of string be?

    I have no idea what package/rpms you have installed.
    I pull/save directory contents which allows me to grep them for
    package name and what not.

    $ uidx whois 2007.1
    contrib-2007.1.idx:bw-whois-3.4-4mdv2007.1.noarch.rpm 48785 Mar 29 12:04
    contrib-2007.1.idxerl-Net-XWhois-0.90-4mdv2007.1.noarch.rpm 26460 Mar 29 13:18
    contrib-2007.1.idxhp-pear-Net_Whois-1.0-7mdv2007.1.noarch.rpm 6877 Mar 29 13:26
    contrib-2007.1.idx:whoisit-1.1-3mdv2007.0.i586.rpm 15057098 Mar 29 13:50
    main-2007.1.idx:whois-4.7.20-2mdv2007.1.i586.rpm 45264 Mar 28 20:34
    mandriva-linux-2007-spring-free-dvd-i586.idx:whois-4.7.20-2mdv2007.1.i586

    Use http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ to find an ftp site for 2007.0 and 2007.1
    which use the same ftp directory format of contents.

    Use wget --no-remove-listing to save directory contents and diff to
    see what changed. Then use grep -f your_rpm_name_here to pull the
    packages you use from the diff results.

    You will need each of the package types you currently have setup.
    cat /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
    to get what main, update, plf.... mirror types you currently use.

    Quick kludge untested example to get you started. From easryrpm you
    picked some /main/ ftp site and get

    urpmi.addmedia main
    ftp://ftp.somewhere/Mandrakelinux/of...a/main/release
    with media_info/hdlist.cz

    so just save the ftp:// string and your script/code would be

    wget --no-remove-listing \
    ftp://ftp.somewhere/Mandrakelinux/of...a/main/release
    cp .listing main_2007_1.idx

    wget --no-remove-listing \
    ftp://ftp.somewhere/Mandrakelinux/of...a/main/release
    cp .listing main_2007_0.idx

    diff -bBw main_2007_0.idx main_2007_1.idx > main_diff.list

    grep -f your_rpm_names_here diff.list

    Do the same for contrib, plf, updates, backports,. for the ones found with
    cat /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg


    Now you can parse the results for the rpm size field and do the math.

    For more info on scripting
    http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html

  7. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    On Fri, 4 May 2007 11:52:57 +0100, Whiskers wrote:

    >
    > I think you'd be much better advised to wait for the 'Free' version of
    > Mandriva 2007.1 to appear on a magazine DVD.
    >


    And have a dvd drive to boot/install from.

  8. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    On Fri, 04 May 2007 06:30:32 -0400, Daniel wrote:

    > Being on dial-up, what sort of file size would I be looking at to do an
    > update of MandrivaLinux 2007 to 2007.1??


    Many of the packages have been recompiled, for consistency with the
    kernel, now using gcc version 4.1.2.

    I checked myself (also on dialup), and urpmi --autoselect selected
    over 5GB of packages. That was with 2729 packages installed with 2007.0

    I waited till I could get a broadband user to download the dvd, and
    after a clean install, had about 100MB of updates to install.

    With 2007.1, I currently have 1515 packages installed. Many of the
    1200, or so packages I no longer have, are from experiments, and
    from comparing various similar packages. I still have to go
    trough the list, and decide which ones to get, but at least I'm
    up and running, with all hardware supported, and working.

    If I run into something I need to do "now", and don't have the
    packages yet in 2007.1, I still have 2007.0, fully functional,
    as a backup.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  9. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    On 2007-05-04, Bit Twister wrote:
    > On Fri, 4 May 2007 11:52:57 +0100, Whiskers wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> I think you'd be much better advised to wait for the 'Free' version of
    >> Mandriva 2007.1 to appear on a magazine DVD.

    >
    > And have a dvd drive to boot/install from.


    Sadly, the Linux mags I've looked at lately seem to have dropped the CD
    option, and Mandriva's own system requirements now include a DVD drive
    .

    CDs seem to be on the way out as an installation and distribution medium.

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~

  10. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    On Fri, 4 May 2007 16:11:54 +0100, Whiskers wrote:
    > On 2007-05-04, Bit Twister wrote:
    >>
    >> And have a dvd drive to boot/install from.

    >
    > Sadly, the Linux mags I've looked at lately seem to have dropped the CD
    > option, and Mandriva's own system requirements now include a DVD drive
    >.
    >
    > CDs seem to be on the way out as an installation and distribution medium.


    Yep, it was nice it have the Spring kde or gnome cds if you did/could
    not use the dvd and you are not a power user.


  11. Re: Upgrade 2007.0 to 2007.1 through urpmi

    On May 4, 3:30 pm, Daniel wrote:
    > Michael A Jones wrote:
    > > No one recommends upgrading like this. But after a few headaches & much
    > > knowledge gained I've got a stable system thats got everything I want.

    >
    > > It's not the easiest way, but it's definitely a way to learn more about
    > > your system.

    >
    > > Bit Twister wrote:
    > >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:33:41 -0700, Michael A Jones wrote:
    > >>> All I wanted at first was the updated KDE and KDevelop.
    > >>> It turned out to be painful - Here's what I learned:

    >
    > >> I would not recommend partial upgrades. Too many new features and you
    > >> might want to look through
    > >>http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases...a/2007.1/Notes
    > >>http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases.../2007.1/Errata

    >
    > Being on dial-up, what sort of file size would I be looking at to do an
    > update of MandrivaLinux 2007 to 2007.1??
    >
    > Tks.
    >
    > Daniel
    >
    > --
    > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


    DUDE dont tell me you r not kidding...u better switch to a broadband
    connection or use a CD for update kind of ****....

    Regards

    Jam


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