On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:42:15 +0000, Andy J. wrote:

> Well, I was quite happy with my filters putting any drivel
> spewed out by home.home1@virgin straight into a big black
> hole. Unfortunately any replies he gets I also get. Short
> of 'killfiling' anyone who replies to his mindless wittering
> can anyone advise me if it's possible to get Thunderbird (ver
> 1.5.0.8) to filter out a complete thread?
>
> Normally I'd ask this in a Mozilla/Thunderbird group but as
> we at Mandrake/Mandriva seem to be the current target of this
> prat, I thought I'd ask here first.
>
> Andy J.

Can't you just killfile the thread?

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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:07:21 +0000, Dave wrote:

> Can't you just killfile the thread?

Failing that, killfile all crossposted messages. If the poster can't be
bothered reading a message crossposted into more than three groups, why
should you have to suffer?

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Dave wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:42:15 +0000, Andy J. wrote:
>
>> Well, I was quite happy with my filters putting any drivel
>> spewed out by home.home1@virgin straight into a big black
>> hole. Unfortunately any replies he gets I also get. Short
>> of 'killfiling' anyone who replies to his mindless wittering
>> can anyone advise me if it's possible to get Thunderbird (ver
>> 1.5.0.8) to filter out a complete thread?
>>
>> Normally I'd ask this in a Mozilla/Thunderbird group but as
>> we at Mandrake/Mandriva seem to be the current target of this
>> prat, I thought I'd ask here first.
>>
>> Andy J.
>
> Can't you just killfile the thread?
>
>
Well, I can press 'k' when a thread is highlighted and that will
ignore the whole thread and make it read. If someone posts a
new reply afterwards it shows up again and I again have to
'ignore' it. I was hoping someone may know a way of filtering
an entire thread started by a particular email address so that
I don't receive any of it in the first place.

Andy J. -- I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:18:03 +0000, Andy J. wrote:

> Well, I can press 'k' when a thread is highlighted and that will
> ignore the whole thread and make it read. If someone posts a
> new reply afterwards it shows up again and I again have to
> 'ignore' it. I was hoping someone may know a way of filtering
> an entire thread started by a particular email address so that
> I don't receive any of it in the first place.
>
> Andy J. -- I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.

I don't think that's possible with Thunderbird. After all, it really is
only an email client, isn't it?

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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:42:15 +0000, Andy J. wrote:
> Well, I was quite happy with my filters putting any drivel
> spewed out by home.home1@virgin straight into a big black
> hole. Unfortunately any replies he gets I also get. Short
> of 'killfiling' anyone who replies to his mindless wittering
> can anyone advise me if it's possible to get Thunderbird (ver
> 1.5.0.8) to filter out a complete thread?

See, that is the problem with just plonking abusive users instead of
filing abuse reports with the offfender's ISP and Usenet news supplier.


Yes, you kill threads using
Subject contains embeds with the Taliban

The above rule would kill a thread with subject of
A BBC reporter embeds with the Taliban...As BBC announces that it is
going to change it's name to DTV(Dhimmi TV).

The downside to the path you are taking is you are forced to limp
because home's leg is broke.

You will have to keep adding each new thread and suffer slower and
slower article selection speed due to more and more filter rules you
have to add.


> Normally I'd ask this in a Mozilla/Thunderbird group but as
> we at Mandrake/Mandriva seem to be the current target of this
> prat, I thought I'd ask here first.

No, it appears the malware bot is posting to loads of other newsgroups.
Just one example
soc.culture.british, alt.politics.british, uk.religion.islam,
soc.culture.europe, alt.politics.usa

Yes you can have the message filter set to kill threads by picking
Subject contains key word to trigger on.

Pick a test group and use it to play with your Message Filter rule to
help you get a feel just what Thunderbird will allow you to do.

That is one of the reasons I use slrn as my news reader. It allows me
to create rules using any of the header fields.
Other reason, you can set when you want the rule to expire and use the
slrn cleanscore program to clear expired rules from the slrn score
file.

Andy J. wrote:

> Well, I was quite happy with my filters putting any drivel
> spewed out by home.home1@virgin straight into a big black
> hole. Unfortunately any replies he gets I also get. Short
> of 'killfiling' anyone who replies to his mindless wittering
> can anyone advise me if it's possible to get Thunderbird (ver
> 1.5.0.8) to filter out a complete thread?
>
> Normally I'd ask this in a Mozilla/Thunderbird group but as
> we at Mandrake/Mandriva seem to be the current target of this
> prat, I thought I'd ask here first.
>
> Andy J.

Install leafnode have it download the articles in the background so they are
ready locally when you want. You can then use the filters on leafnode to
filter at the time of download. This will greatly increase your reading
speed and you will not have the filter slowdown Bit is talking about. I
don't ever see anything posted by "home.home1@virgin" or anyone that
follows up to him. All done in the background ready and waiting. You can
create a cron job to have leafnode download and post your replies on a
regular basis...
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update them now.

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:40:40 -0800, left_coast wrote:

> Install leafnode have it download the articles in the background so they are
> ready locally when you want. You can then use the filters on leafnode to
> filter at the time of download. This will greatly increase your reading
> speed and you will not have the filter slowdown Bit is talking
> about.

Just to round out the discussion to provide lurkers with food for thought.

I can completely agree with you as it applies to the first activation
of the news reader.

Downside items which may or may not apply to a give user:
1 it is longer in a real time mode,
2 a little more labor getting to file to add rule and rule cleanup,
3 extra disk space to hold downloaded articles.
That can bite you if you have download quotas.


Real time example: You post reqested information about a problem you
are having and are re-polling your leafnode feed looking for a
response to your post.

As I misunderstand it, you now have to wait for the next leafnode
fetch cycle and it's filter time before you can read a new article
posted at the news server.

On 2006-12-01, Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:40:40 -0800, left_coast wrote:
>
>> Install leafnode have it download the articles in the background so they are
>> ready locally when you want. You can then use the filters on leafnode to
>> filter at the time of download. This will greatly increase your reading
>> speed and you will not have the filter slowdown Bit is talking
>> about.
>
> Just to round out the discussion to provide lurkers with food for thought.
>
> I can completely agree with you as it applies to the first activation
> of the news reader.
>
> Downside items which may or may not apply to a give user:
> 1 it is longer in a real time mode,
> 2 a little more labor getting to file to add rule and rule cleanup,
> 3 extra disk space to hold downloaded articles.
> That can bite you if you have download quotas.
>
>
> Real time example: You post reqested information about a problem you
> are having and are re-polling your leafnode feed looking for a
> response to your post.
>
> As I misunderstand it, you now have to wait for the next leafnode
> fetch cycle and it's filter time before you can read a new article
> posted at the news server.

I run fetchnews (the command that posts from and pulls to the Leafnode
spool) manually, from a one-click launcher, as and when I feel like it.
Could be as often as every time I post, if I was really anxious. That is
about as quick as 'synchronising' an 'off-line' newsreader. It does mean
that I 'pull' the bodies for articles which I end up never reading, but
that is far outweighed by the convenience. The size of my local spool is
easily manageable, as I don't go to binary groups and I set a global 90
day retention. Leafnode filters in real time, as the headers arrive.

Maintaining the Leafnode 'filter' file (a simple killfile, in fact) is no
hardship; mine is about 30 lines that kill the vast bulk of the stuff I
don't want to see. I last edited it about a month ago.

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Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:40:40 -0800, left_coast wrote:
>
>> Install leafnode have it download the articles in the background so they are
>> ready locally when you want. You can then use the filters on leafnode to
>> filter at the time of download. This will greatly increase your reading
>> speed and you will not have the filter slowdown Bit is talking
>> about.
>
> Just to round out the discussion to provide lurkers with food for thought.
>
> I can completely agree with you as it applies to the first activation
> of the news reader.
>
> Downside items which may or may not apply to a give user:
> 1 it is longer in a real time mode,
> 2 a little more labor getting to file to add rule and rule cleanup,
> 3 extra disk space to hold downloaded articles.
> That can bite you if you have download quotas.
>
>
> Real time example: You post reqested information about a problem you
> are having and are re-polling your leafnode feed looking for a
> response to your post.
>
> As I misunderstand it, you now have to wait for the next leafnode
> fetch cycle and it's filter time before you can read a new article
> posted at the news server.
>
>
Oh well, I've got quite used to Thunderbird so I'll just put up with
this idiot's ramblings for now. After all, in my experience, when
people like that fail to get any attention they generally go away and
find someone else to annoy. Meanwhile I'll have a look a Leafnode. At
the moment I'm not sure what it is but I'll do a little digging to
find out more. Thanks again for all the advice guys.

Andy J. -- I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:00:16 +0000, Andy J. wrote:

> Oh well, I've got quite used to Thunderbird so I'll just put up with
> this idiot's ramblings for now. After all, in my experience, when
> people like that fail to get any attention they generally go away and
> find someone else to annoy.

hehe, I think not.
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,340 for home.home1@virgin (0.28 seconds)


> Meanwhile I'll have a look a Leafnode.

It is quite a plus for dialup users who could use it to pull articles
via a batch job an hour or so before they get home/wake up.

Andy J. schreef:

> Oh well, I've got quite used to Thunderbird so I'll just put up with
> this idiot's ramblings for now. After all, in my experience, when
> people like that fail to get any attention they generally go away and
> find someone else to annoy.

I agree that it would be best to ignore him completely. He must be a
very lonely guy, lets keep it that way...

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:18:03 +0000, Andy J. wrote:

> Well, I can press 'k' when a thread is highlighted and that will
> ignore the whole thread and make it read. If someone posts a
> new reply afterwards it shows up again and I again have to
> 'ignore' it. I was hoping someone may know a way of filtering
> an entire thread started by a particular email address so that
> I don't receive any of it in the first place.

You'll have to use a real newsreader to get that function. I recommend
Pan (for GUI), or slrn (for CLI).

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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:31:12 -0600, Dan C wrote:

> You'll have to use a real newsreader to get that function. I recommend
> Pan (for GUI), or slrn (for CLI).

.... or Slrn whilst with a terminal window open in a GUI as well.

See, if the graphics drivers installation goes wrong, or the X server
fails for whatever reason, you're dumped back to the CLI. Pan's no use
there, is it?

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Bit Twister wrote:

> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:40:40 -0800, left_coast wrote:
>
>> Install leafnode have it download the articles in the background so they
>> are ready locally when you want. You can then use the filters on leafnode
>> to filter at the time of download. This will greatly increase your
>> reading speed and you will not have the filter slowdown Bit is talking
>> about.
>
> Just to round out the discussion to provide lurkers with food for thought.
>
> I can completely agree with you as it applies to the first activation
> of the news reader.
>
> Downside items which may or may not apply to a give user:
> 1 it is longer in a real time mode,
> 2 a little more labor getting to file to add rule and rule cleanup,
> 3 extra disk space to hold downloaded articles.
> That can bite you if you have download quotas.
>
>
> Real time example: You post reqested information about a problem you
> are having and are re-polling your leafnode feed looking for a
> response to your post.
>
> As I misunderstand it,
> > you now have to wait for the next leafnode
> fetch cycle and it's filter time before you can read a new article
> posted at the news server.

One minute is the most it adds the way I have it set up. That is ALL that is
added to the propagation time already on use. The time, bother saved by not
having to wade though the tons of BS here is well worth it. There are also
other advantages to using leafnode, certainly if one pulls from binary
groups. If real time use of of binary groups is not required, have leafnode
pull from binary groups during times the users are not typically using the
Internet. But also, for parents or corporations that want to keep kids from
reading certain news groups it is easy to set up leafnode not to carry the
groups.
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update them now.

Maxim Heijndijk wrote:

> I agree that it would be best to ignore him completely. He must be a
> very lonely guy, lets keep it that way...

No problem with me, it is a valid course of action that bit is dismissing
because of personal bias.
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