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  1. Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

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    Analysis of posts to alt.os.linux.mandrake by Robert Marshall
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    Total posts considered: 598 over 7 days
    Earliest article: Fri Nov 17 21:25:06 2006
    Latest article: Fri Nov 24 20:25:04 2006
    Original articles: 32, replies: 566
    Total size of posts: 1,774,288 bytes (1,732K) (1.69M)
    Average 85 articles per day, 0.24 MB per day, 2,967 bytes per article
    Total headers: 1,014 KB bodies: 718 KB
    Body text - quoted: 287 KB, original: 391 KB = 57.65%, sigs: 37 KB
    Total number of posters: 99, average 17,922 bytes per poster
    Total number of threads: 56, average 31,683 bytes per thread
    Total number of User-Agents: 32

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    Top 20 posters by number of articles
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    1: left_coast ..................................... : 171
    2: Aragorn .............................. : 137
    3: David ................................ : 28
    4: Christopher Hunter ............. : 27
    5: home.home1@virgin.net.......................................... : 26
    6: Dave ................................... : 13
    7: Dan C ............................ : 11
    8: Ron Gibson .............................. : 10
    9: Whiskers ............................ : 10
    10: Alan Secker ............................... : 7
    11: Bit Twister ...................... : 6
    12: Lance DeVooght ................... : 6
    13: "Neil Ellwood" ................ : 5
    14: Blinky the Shark ......................... : 5
    15: "johnny" ................................... : 4
    16: croaker ............................... : 4
    17: "David W. Hodgins" ............... : 4
    18: "scobap" ................................. : 4
    19: chris gareau ........................................ : 4
    20: Walter Mautner ........ : 4

    ================================================== ==========================
    Top 20 posters by article size in Kbytes
    ================================================== ==========================
    1: Aragorn .............................. : 483
    2: left_coast ..................................... : 450
    3: David ................................ : 105
    4: home.home1@virgin.net.......................................... : 91
    5: Christopher Hunter ............. : 67
    6: Ron Gibson .............................. : 31
    7: Dave ................................... : 29
    8: Whiskers ............................ : 23
    9: Dan C ............................ : 17
    10: Lance DeVooght ................... : 16
    11: alt.os.linux.mandriva Stats ............ : 15
    12: Bit Twister ...................... : 15
    13: alt.os.linux.mandrake Stats ............ : 15
    14: Alan Secker ............................... : 14
    15: "David W. Hodgins" ............... : 14
    16: "Philip" ............................... : 13
    17: "johnny" ................................... : 12
    18: Blinky the Shark ......................... : 10
    19: "Neil Ellwood" ................ : 10
    20: kmashraf@gmail.com............................................. : 10

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    Top 13 responders by original text (> 5 posts)
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    1: home.home1@virgin.net.......................................... : 85.08%
    2: Alan Secker ............................... : 82.28%
    3: Bit Twister ...................... : 76.29%
    4: Aragorn .............................. : 68.54%
    5: Ron Gibson .............................. : 56.36%
    6: Dave ................................... : 56.04%
    7: left_coast ..................................... : 49.35%
    8: Dan C ............................ : 41.43%
    9: Christopher Hunter ............. : 41.40%
    10: Lance DeVooght ................... : 40.97%
    11: Whiskers ............................ : 38.55%
    12: "Neil Ellwood" ................ : 26.07%
    13: David ................................ : 23.59%

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    Bottom 13 responders by original text (> 5 posts)
    ================================================== ==========================
    1: Blinky the Shark ......................... : 19.65%
    2: David ................................ : 23.59%
    3: "Neil Ellwood" ................ : 26.07%
    4: Whiskers ............................ : 38.55%
    5: Lance DeVooght ................... : 40.97%
    6: Christopher Hunter ............. : 41.40%
    7: Dan C ............................ : 41.43%
    8: left_coast ..................................... : 49.35%
    9: Dave ................................... : 56.04%
    10: Ron Gibson .............................. : 56.36%
    11: Aragorn .............................. : 68.54%
    12: Bit Twister ...................... : 76.29%
    13: Alan Secker ............................... : 82.28%

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    Top 20 threads by no. of articles
    ================================================== ==========================
    1: Test Message........................................... ........ : 244
    2: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake........................... : 108
    3: Appropriate everything is named after a children's programme... : 17
    4: Looking for a pernement e-mail address......................... : 16
    5: Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Thursday declared his belief that t : 15
    6: Linux.OSF.8759 is a virus with enhanced backdoor capabilities.. : 14
    7: Original subject-line removed.................................. : 13
    8: Quickcam.......................................... ............. : 9
    9: Install CDs on Hard Drive...................................... : 9
    10: Pan nntp newgroups reader ?.................................... : 8
    11: filerunner........................................ ............. : 8
    12: Who's the Governor! You wankers. Keyboard warriors. Put up or s : 8
    13: Making an audio CD............................................. : 8
    14: Grub as a secondary boot loader?............................... : 8
    15: command on vc switch........................................... : 7
    16: Installing Mandravia 2007 over MandrakeLinux 10.1.............. : 7
    17: 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore............................... : 7
    18: Urpmi database locked.......................................... : 6
    19: Mandriva and laptops: suggestion............................... : 5
    20: user.............................................. ............. : 5

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    Top 20 threads by size in KB
    ================================================== ==========================
    1: Test Message........................................... ........ : 778
    2: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake........................... : 294
    3: Linux.OSF.8759 is a virus with enhanced backdoor capabilities.. : 51
    4: Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Thursday declared his belief that t : 48
    5: Appropriate everything is named after a children's programme... : 45
    6: Looking for a pernement e-mail address......................... : 32
    7: Original subject-line removed.................................. : 28
    8: Installing Mandravia 2007 over MandrakeLinux 10.1.............. : 26
    9: Quickcam.......................................... ............. : 22
    10: Grub as a secondary boot loader?............................... : 20
    11: [OT] Hardware question......................................... : 19
    12: Windows XP would have been =?UTF-8?B?wqMxMDAsMDAw?= cheaper tha : 19
    13: Who's the Governor! You wankers. Keyboard warriors. Put up or s : 18
    14: Install CDs on Hard Drive...................................... : 17
    15: Making an audio CD............................................. : 16
    16: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandriva........................... : 15
    17: Pan nntp newgroups reader ?.................................... : 15
    18: Still at it................................................ .... : 15
    19: command on vc switch........................................... : 15
    20: I think all "Americans" regardless of age should be allowed to : 13

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    Top 10 cross-posted groups
    ================================================== ==========================
    1: alt.os.linux.suse................................. ............. : 55
    2: soc.culture.singapore............................. ............. : 42
    3: soc.culture.malaysia.............................. ............. : 42
    4: soc.culture.thai.................................. ............. : 31
    5: alt.fr.os.suse.................................... ............. : 22
    6: alt.os.linux.mandriva............................. ............. : 13
    7: soc.culture.british............................... ............. : 10
    8: talk.politics.guns................................ ............. : 9
    9: alt.comp.freeware................................. ............. : 4
    10: news.software.readers............................. ............. : 3

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    Top 10 User Agents by poster
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    1: KNode............................................. ............. : 21
    2: Pan............................................... ............. : 16
    3: G2................................................ ............. : 11
    4: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11....................................... : 11
    5: Unknown........................................... ............. : 8
    6: Outlook Express........................................... ..... : 7
    7: slrn.............................................. ............. : 7
    8: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11....................................... : 4
    9: Mozilla........................................... ............. : 3
    10: pan............................................... ............. : 3

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    Top 10 User Agents by number of posts
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    1: KNode............................................. ........ : 360 (60%)
    2: Pan............................................... ........ : 50 ( 8%)
    3: G2................................................ ........ : 44 ( 7%)
    4: slrn.............................................. ........ : 38 ( 6%)
    5: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11.................................. : 33 ( 6%)
    6: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11.................................. : 20 ( 3%)
    7: pan............................................... ........ : 12 ( 2%)
    8: Mozilla........................................... ........ : 11 ( 2%)
    9: Outlook Express........................................... : 7 ( 1%)
    10: unknown........................................... ........ : 6 ( 1%)

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    Top 10 time zones
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    1: UTC............................................... ............. : 265
    2: -0800.............................................. ............ : 247
    3: -0600.............................................. ............ : 29
    4: -0500.............................................. ............ : 20
    5: +0100............................................. ............. : 16
    6: +1100............................................. ............. : 7
    7: -0700.............................................. ............ : 5
    8: +0800............................................. ............. : 3
    9: +0100 (CET)............................................. ....... : 3
    10: +1300............................................. ............. : 2

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  2. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:16:00 +0000, alt.os.linux.mandrake wrote:

    > ================================================== ==========================
    > Top 20 posters by number of articles
    > ================================================== ==========================
    > 1: left_coast ..................................... : 171
    > 2: Aragorn .............................. : 137
    > 3: David ................................ : 28
    > 4: Christopher Hunter ............. : 27
    > 5: home.home1@virgin.net.......................................... : 26
    > 6: Dave ................................... : 13
    > 7: Dan C ............................ : 11


    I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    two-man race these days.

    > ================================================== ==========================
    > Top 20 posters by article size in Kbytes
    > ================================================== ==========================
    > 1: Aragorn .............................. : 483
    > 2: left_coast ................................. : 450


    Damn, that's just........ ridiculous.

    I highly recommend killfiling both of these idiots, help save the planet.


    --
    "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  3. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Friday 24 November 2006 23:21, Dan C stood up and addressed the masses
    in /alt.os.linux.mandrake/ as follows...:

    > On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:16:00 +0000, alt.os.linux.mandrake wrote:
    >
    >> 1: left_coast ................................. : 171
    >> 2: Aragorn .......................... : 137
    >> 3: David ............................ : 28
    >> 4: Christopher Hunter ......... : 27
    >> 5: home.home1@virgin.net...................................... : 26

    >
    > I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    > two-man race these days.


    If you hadn't /killfiled/ me, then you would have noticed that your arrogant
    and cowardly comments behind my back are quite misplaced, since I have been
    talking to other people than Matt as well, and about different subjects,
    even.

    I think the difference between the amount of posts made by Matt and the
    amount of posts made by myself also speaks volumes.

    >> 1: Aragorn .......................... : 483
    >> 2: left_coast ................................ : 450

    >
    > Damn, that's just........ ridiculous.


    And the fact that I lead in terms of the article size in KB is only because
    several of my posts which were _not_ made in reply to Matt were very
    elaborate. Ask Ron Gibson.

    > I highly recommend killfiling both of these idiots, help save the planet.


    The only idiot right now is you, making comments about things you don't even
    know about, since you were so lame as to /killfile/ me. And on top of
    that, everyone also knows the *real* reason why you have me /killfiled,/
    and this has _nothing* to do with my debating with Matt.

    There was a time not even too long ago that you also dedicated a serious
    amount of your time to debating with Matt, to such an extent that it wasn't
    even debating anymore but just playing with him, partly half serious and
    partly with lenghty and identical flame posts.

    So why would it be wrong for me to try and be serious in a debate, while it
    was obviously not wrong for you to keep on flaming Matt and playing with
    him back then?

    The explanation is plain and simple. When I first criticized you in public
    over your little witchhunt on Leytos - a man accused of trolling but who
    wasn't a troll at all; he was just very naive - I mentioned that if you
    didn't like my intervention, you were free to /killfile/ me. Yet you
    didn't, and you even said "I can't help but like you, and I am a great
    Tolkien fan".

    But apparently you suddenly stopped liking me when it turned out that I
    don't buy the American supremacy ideology you adhere. When I even made a
    short, sarcastic comment about George W. Bush (regarding his stance on
    global warming), you called it a cheap shot - which wasn't true - and you
    called it opportunistic - which is not a characteristic of mine, and
    moreover it is something I loathe. In fact, it was this attack on me *by*
    *you* that brought about the whole debate about Bush and the alleged
    American supremacy in the first place.

    No Dan, you have me /killfiled/ simply because I'm not a rightwinged bigot
    like you. And that's all.

    Furthermore, Matt /left_coast/ may be in the majority of the /killfiles/ on
    this and other groups, but guess who number two on the list is. Here's a
    hint: it's a very anti-newbie rightwinger, and I'm talking to him right
    now, eventhough he has me in his /killfile./

    You don't have to like me. You also don't have to like Matt, Chris or
    David. But at least if you decide to /killfile/ *me,* then be honest about
    the reasons, and don't call me names behind my back just over the facts
    that I can't stand injustice and that I don't share your political
    convictions.

    As for being an idiot, I think you need to re-evaluate the meaning of
    intelligence. You're certainly not dumb. But you're not exactly an
    intellectual either - rightwingers never are. In other words, in good
    tradition with your political party, you stand a very realistic chance at
    becoming President of your country some day. After all, Reagan's IQ had
    only two digits, and Bush's isn't that much better.

    Hmm... Shame you won't be reading this. But even if you did, then I wonder
    whether you'd accept any of it. After all, you _were_ enough of a jerk
    already to /killfile/ me in the first place, and on top of that you seem to
    be seizing every opportunity for making hideous remarks about me.

    Safe huh, doing that from behind your /killfilter/? Just goes to show what
    a coward you really are. In fact, I should be /killfiling/ *you* - as so
    many others already have - but I want to be able to undo the damage you
    inflict to the reputation of this newsgroup whenever you bash another
    newbie over posting his questions from within Windows.

    --
    *Without* kind regards for you,

    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  4. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dan C wrote:
    > On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:16:00 +0000, alt.os.linux.mandrake wrote:
    >
    >> ================================================== ==========================
    >> Top 20 posters by number of articles
    >> ================================================== ==========================
    >> 1: left_coast ..................................... : 171
    >> 2: Aragorn .............................. : 137
    >> 3: David ................................ : 28
    >> 4: Christopher Hunter ............. : 27
    >> 5: home.home1@virgin.net.......................................... : 26
    >> 6: Dave ................................... : 13
    >> 7: Dan C ............................ : 11

    >
    > I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    > two-man race these days.


    Seven is way out in front? I guess when you thin 90 is an IQ with which
    to be contended, 7 seems like a big number.

    And **** YOU for attacking Aragorn. You'd have to be a moron who rises
    (lowers?) to the level of a Bush supporter to openly make such absurd
    comments. You and "Boy George" are treasonous birds of a feather :-)

    >
    >> ================================================== ==========================
    >> Top 20 posters by article size in Kbytes
    >> ================================================== ==========================
    >> 1: Aragorn .............................. : 483
    >> 2: left_coast ................................. : 450

    >
    > Damn, that's just........ ridiculous.
    >
    > I highly recommend killfiling both of these idiots, help save the planet.
    >
    >


    Which would be effective, if Aragorn and I were not the only people who
    haven't already killfiled YOU! ROTFLMAO. :-)
    --
    ****** Warning - Highly US-Centric .sig approaching! ******
    The only way to differentiate "The War on Terrorism"
    from "The War on Drugs" is to measure the amount of piss
    on the Founding Fathers graves. - James J. Dines

  5. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dan C wrote:

    > I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    > two-man race these days.


    Dan - you're teetering on the edge of the bit-bin here! You're close to
    falling in with a loud *plonk!* Aragorn might be a little long-winded at
    times, but usually has something useful to say. You might not agree with
    his politics, but at least his answers are reasoned and intelligent.

    Your political stance is abhorrent to /most/ people in the world. Americans
    can never quite understand why they're almost globally disliked - it's just
    the arrogance, ignorance and abuse of anyone non-American that causes the
    problem!

    C.

  6. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On 2006-11-25, Christopher Hunter wrote:
    > Dan C wrote:
    >
    >> I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    >> two-man race these days.

    >
    > Dan - you're teetering on the edge of the bit-bin here!


    Teetering? You must be joking!

    > You're close to falling in with a loud *plonk!*


    For most people the echoes of have long since died away.

    > Aragorn might be a little long-winded at times, but usually has
    > something useful to say. You might not agree with his politics, but
    > at least his answers are reasoned and intelligent.


    How can you use both names in the same paragraph??

    > Your political stance is abhorrent to /most/ people in the world.


    I hadn't noticed that he had gone from adolescent spewing to
    politics.

    > Americans can never quite understand why they're almost globally
    > disliked - it's just the arrogance, ignorance and abuse of anyone
    > non-American that causes the problem!


    No matter how low your opinion is of Americans, Dan C. doesn't even
    come close to the quality of the worst of them.


    --
    Chris F.A. Johnson, author |
    Shell Scripting Recipes: | My code in this post, if any,
    A Problem-Solution Approach | is released under the
    2005, Apress | GNU General Public Licence

  7. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Aragorn wrote:

    > On Friday 24 November 2006 23:21, Dan C stood up and addressed the masses
    > in /alt.os.linux.mandrake/ as follows...:
    >
    >> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:16:00 +0000, alt.os.linux.mandrake wrote:
    >>
    >>> 1: left_coast ................................. : 171
    >>> 2: Aragorn .......................... : 137
    >>> 3: David ............................ : 28
    >>> 4: Christopher Hunter ......... : 27
    >>> 5: home.home1@virgin.net...................................... : 26

    >>
    >> I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's
    >> a two-man race these days.

    >
    > If you hadn't /killfiled/ me, then you would have noticed that your
    > arrogant and cowardly comments behind my back are quite misplaced, since I
    > have been talking to other people than Matt as well, and about different
    > subjects, even.
    >
    > I think the difference between the amount of posts made by Matt and the
    > amount of posts made by myself also speaks volumes.
    >
    >>> 1: Aragorn .......................... : 483
    >>> 2: left_coast ................................ : 450

    >>
    >> Damn, that's just........ ridiculous.

    >
    > And the fact that I lead in terms of the article size in KB is only
    > because several of my posts which were _not_ made in reply to Matt were
    > very
    > elaborate. Ask Ron Gibson.
    >
    >> I highly recommend killfiling both of these idiots, help save the planet.

    >
    > The only idiot right now is you, making comments about things you don't
    > even
    > know about, since you were so lame as to /killfile/ me. And on top of
    > that, everyone also knows the *real* reason why you have me /killfiled,/
    > and this has _nothing* to do with my debating with Matt.
    >
    > There was a time not even too long ago that you also dedicated a serious
    > amount of your time to debating with Matt, to such an extent that it
    > wasn't even debating anymore but just playing with him, partly half
    > serious and partly with lenghty and identical flame posts.
    >
    > So why would it be wrong for me to try and be serious in a debate, while
    > it was obviously not wrong for you to keep on flaming Matt and playing
    > with him back then?
    >
    > The explanation is plain and simple. When I first criticized you in
    > public over your little witchhunt on Leytos - a man accused of trolling
    > but who wasn't a troll at all; he was just very naive - I mentioned that
    > if you
    > didn't like my intervention, you were free to /killfile/ me. Yet you
    > didn't, and you even said "I can't help but like you, and I am a great
    > Tolkien fan".
    >
    > But apparently you suddenly stopped liking me when it turned out that I
    > don't buy the American supremacy ideology you adhere. When I even made a
    > short, sarcastic comment about George W. Bush (regarding his stance on
    > global warming), you called it a cheap shot - which wasn't true - and you
    > called it opportunistic - which is not a characteristic of mine, and
    > moreover it is something I loathe. In fact, it was this attack on me *by*
    > *you* that brought about the whole debate about Bush and the alleged
    > American supremacy in the first place.
    >
    > No Dan, you have me /killfiled/ simply because I'm not a rightwinged bigot
    > like you. And that's all.
    >
    > Furthermore, Matt /left_coast/ may be in the majority of the /killfiles/
    > on
    > this and other groups, but guess who number two on the list is. Here's a
    > hint: it's a very anti-newbie rightwinger, and I'm talking to him right
    > now, eventhough he has me in his /killfile./
    >
    > You don't have to like me. You also don't have to like Matt, Chris or
    > David. But at least if you decide to /killfile/ *me,* then be honest
    > about the reasons, and don't call me names behind my back just over the
    > facts that I can't stand injustice and that I don't share your political
    > convictions.
    >
    > As for being an idiot, I think you need to re-evaluate the meaning of
    > intelligence. You're certainly not dumb. But you're not exactly an
    > intellectual either - rightwingers never are. In other words, in good
    > tradition with your political party, you stand a very realistic chance at
    > becoming President of your country some day. After all, Reagan's IQ had
    > only two digits, and Bush's isn't that much better.
    >
    > Hmm... Shame you won't be reading this. But even if you did, then I
    > wonder
    > whether you'd accept any of it. After all, you _were_ enough of a jerk
    > already to /killfile/ me in the first place, and on top of that you seem
    > to be seizing every opportunity for making hideous remarks about me.
    >
    > Safe huh, doing that from behind your /killfilter/? Just goes to show
    > what
    > a coward you really are. In fact, I should be /killfiling/ *you* - as so
    > many others already have - but I want to be able to undo the damage you
    > inflict to the reputation of this newsgroup whenever you bash another
    > newbie over posting his questions from within Windows.
    >


    Hear, Hear, a very sound response
    and I completely agree.

    Cheers
    Henry
    --
    I used to be schizophrenic, but we're OK now

  8. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 02:35:07 +0000, James J. Dines wrote:

    >>> ================================================== ==========================
    >>> Top 20 posters by number of articles
    >>> ================================================== ==========================
    >>> 1: left_coast ..................................... : 171
    >>> 2: Aragorn .............................. : 137
    >>> 3: David ................................ : 28
    >>> 4: Christopher Hunter ............. : 27
    >>> 5: home.home1@virgin.net.......................................... : 26
    >>> 6: Dave ................................... : 13
    >>> 7: Dan C ............................ : 11


    >> I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    >> two-man race these days.


    > Seven is way out in front? I guess when you thin 90 is an IQ with which
    > to be contended, 7 seems like a big number.


    I included the top 7 to show my own name too, doofus, and to illustrate
    the huge difference between the top two and the rest. Try to keep up with
    that double digit IQ handicap you have to haul around.

    > And **** YOU for attacking Aragorn. You'd have to be a moron who rises
    > (lowers?) to the level of a Bush supporter to openly make such absurd
    > comments. You and "Boy George" are treasonous birds of a feather :-)


    Kiss my ass, you pompous dimwit. Where did you get the (mistaken) idea
    that I'm a Bush supporter, anyway? Are those voices telling you that?

    --
    "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  9. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:03:51 +0000, Christopher Hunter wrote:

    >> I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front...
    >> It's a two-man race these days.


    > Dan - you're teetering on the edge of the bit-bin here! You're close to
    > falling in with a loud *plonk!* Aragorn might be a little long-winded
    > at times, but usually has something useful to say.


    Really? You think all the continued responses to the
    "never-ending-thread" were "useful" in some way? Please explain how
    continuing to feed the troll is "useful", would you?


    > You might not agree with his politics, but at least his answers are
    > reasoned and intelligent.


    Your opinion is noted, for what it matters.

    > Your political stance is abhorrent to /most/ people in the world.


    You're another who mistakes my standing up to anti-American smear
    campaigns translates to being a "Bush supporter". I have major
    disagreements with Bush, and with the conflict in Iraq, but that is a
    different thing altogether than bashing Americans, most of which don't
    agree with Bush, either. That's why Aragorn is killfiled here. He takes
    cheap, opportunistic shots at America (and Americans), since he is unable
    to seperate "them" from "Bush". He doesn't understand what he speaks of,
    at least in that context.

    > Americans can never quite understand why they're almost globally
    > disliked - it's just the arrogance, ignorance and abuse of anyone
    > non-American that causes the problem!


    Right. If you say so.


    --
    "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  10. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:18:40 -0500, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:

    >> Americans can never quite understand why they're almost globally
    >> disliked - it's just the arrogance, ignorance and abuse of anyone
    >> non-American that causes the problem!


    > No matter how low your opinion is of Americans, Dan C. doesn't even
    > come close to the quality of the worst of them.


    Here's another cheap-shot artist at work. I wonder if Aragorn will call
    him on it, saying it's unfair to talk bad about folks who you've killfiled.

    I'm guessing he won't.


    --
    "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  11. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dan C wrote:
    > On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:18:40 -0500, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
    >
    >>> Americans can never quite understand why they're almost globally
    >>> disliked - it's just the arrogance, ignorance and abuse of anyone
    >>> non-American that causes the problem!

    >
    >> No matter how low your opinion is of Americans, Dan C. doesn't even
    >> come close to the quality of the worst of them.

    >
    > Here's another cheap-shot artist at work. I wonder if Aragorn will call
    > him on it, saying it's unfair to talk bad about folks who you've killfiled.
    >
    > I'm guessing he won't.
    >
    >


    You see ... that is why I figure your IQ to be about 90. You *DO* have
    enough intelligence to figure out that *NOBODY* is *EVER* going to come
    to your defense :-)

    --
    ****** Warning - Highly US-Centric .sig approaching! ******
    The only way to differentiate "The War on Terrorism"
    from "The War on Drugs" is to measure the amount of piss
    on the Founding Fathers graves. - James J. Dines

  12. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dan C wrote:
    > On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 02:35:07 +0000, James J. Dines wrote:
    >
    >>>> ================================================== ==========================
    >>>> Top 20 posters by number of articles
    >>>> ================================================== ==========================
    >>>> 1: left_coast ..................................... : 171
    >>>> 2: Aragorn .............................. : 137
    >>>> 3: David ................................ : 28
    >>>> 4: Christopher Hunter ............. : 27
    >>>> 5: home.home1@virgin.net.......................................... : 26
    >>>> 6: Dave ................................... : 13
    >>>> 7: Dan C ............................ : 11

    >
    >>> I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    >>> two-man race these days.

    >
    >> Seven is way out in front? I guess when you thin 90 is an IQ with which
    >> to be contended, 7 seems like a big number.

    >
    > I included the top 7 to show my own name too, doofus, and to illustrate
    > the huge difference between the top two and the rest. Try to keep up with
    > that double digit IQ handicap you have to haul around.


    Yes. I'm a doofus because you wanted to see your own name in the post :-)
    >
    >> And **** YOU for attacking Aragorn. You'd have to be a moron who rises
    >> (lowers?) to the level of a Bush supporter to openly make such absurd
    >> comments. You and "Boy George" are treasonous birds of a feather :-)

    >
    > Kiss my ass, you pompous dimwit. Where did you get the (mistaken) idea
    > that I'm a Bush supporter, anyway? Are those voices telling you that?
    >


    Show me where I said you were a Bush supporter (Unfair, I know; I am
    challenging you to apply a level of intelligence to which you clearly
    aspire but can never attain.)
    --
    ****** Warning - Highly US-Centric .sig approaching! ******
    The only way to differentiate "The War on Terrorism"
    from "The War on Drugs" is to measure the amount of piss
    on the Founding Fathers graves. - James J. Dines

  13. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:26:08 +0000, James J. Dines wrote:

    >>>> I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    >>>> two-man race these days.


    >>> Seven is way out in front? I guess when you thin 90 is an IQ with which
    >>> to be contended, 7 seems like a big number.


    >> I included the top 7 to show my own name too, doofus, and to illustrate
    >> the huge difference between the top two and the rest. Try to keep up with
    >> that double digit IQ handicap you have to haul around.


    > Yes. I'm a doofus because you wanted to see your own name in the post :-)


    No, you're a doofus because you don't understand that I included my own
    name in the list to illustrate the difference between my postings and the
    morons at the top of the list. Get it now, dimwit?

    >>> And **** YOU for attacking Aragorn. You'd have to be a moron who rises
    >>> (lowers?) to the level of a Bush supporter to openly make such absurd
    >>> comments. You and "Boy George" are treasonous birds of a feather :-)


    >> Kiss my ass, you pompous dimwit. Where did you get the (mistaken) idea
    >> that I'm a Bush supporter, anyway? Are those voices telling you that?


    > Show me where I said you were a Bush supporter (Unfair, I know; I am
    > challenging you to apply a level of intelligence to which you clearly
    > aspire but can never attain.)


    OK, yeah, you didn't say it exactly, but certainly inferred it. Same
    difference in this case. It could be argued also, that saying two
    people are "birds of a feather" means they agree with each other.
    Right? Keep ignoring those voices you hear, anyway.

    --
    "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  14. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:21:18 +0000, James J. Dines wrote:

    >>> No matter how low your opinion is of Americans, Dan C. doesn't even
    >>> come close to the quality of the worst of them.


    >> Here's another cheap-shot artist at work. I wonder if Aragorn will call
    >> him on it, saying it's unfair to talk bad about folks who you've killfiled.
    >>
    >> I'm guessing he won't.


    > You see ... that is why I figure your IQ to be about 90. You *DO* have
    > enough intelligence to figure out that *NOBODY* is *EVER* going to come
    > to your defense :-)


    I'm not looking for anybody to /come to my defense/. I'm just wondering
    if Aragorn's self-proclaimed *high moral principles* apply to everyone, or
    just those he agrees with.

    Try to keep up, dimwit.

    --
    "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  15. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dan C wrote:
    > On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:26:08 +0000, James J. Dines wrote:
    >
    >>>>> I see the trolls and fools are still *WAY* out in front... It's a
    >>>>> two-man race these days.

    >
    >>>> Seven is way out in front? I guess when you thin 90 is an IQ with which
    >>>> to be contended, 7 seems like a big number.

    >
    >>> I included the top 7 to show my own name too, doofus, and to illustrate
    >>> the huge difference between the top two and the rest. Try to keep up with
    >>> that double digit IQ handicap you have to haul around.

    >
    >> Yes. I'm a doofus because you wanted to see your own name in the post :-)

    >
    > No, you're a doofus because you don't understand that I included my own
    > name in the list to illustrate the difference between my postings and the
    > morons at the top of the list. Get it now, dimwit?


    Yes. I see your logic now. Without your help, people would have a
    difficult time telling the difference between posts from Dan C and
    Aragorn ... ROTFLMAO ...
    >
    >>>> And **** YOU for attacking Aragorn. You'd have to be a moron who rises
    >>>> (lowers?) to the level of a Bush supporter to openly make such absurd
    >>>> comments. You and "Boy George" are treasonous birds of a feather :-)

    >
    >>> Kiss my ass, you pompous dimwit. Where did you get the (mistaken) idea
    >>> that I'm a Bush supporter, anyway? Are those voices telling you that?

    >
    >> Show me where I said you were a Bush supporter (Unfair, I know; I am
    >> challenging you to apply a level of intelligence to which you clearly
    >> aspire but can never attain.)

    >
    > OK, yeah, you didn't say it exactly, but certainly inferred it. Same
    > difference in this case. It could be argued also, that saying two
    > people are "birds of a feather" means they agree with each other.
    > Right? Keep ignoring those voices you hear, anyway.
    >


    But you and Bush *DO* agree with each other! You both think that if you
    make statements that are moronic and obvious lies often enough, then
    people will accept them as fact :-)

    --
    ****** Warning - Highly US-Centric .sig approaching! ******
    The only way to differentiate "The War on Terrorism"
    from "The War on Drugs" is to measure the amount of piss
    on the Founding Fathers graves. - James J. Dines

  16. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dan C wrote:
    >
    > I'm not looking for anybody to /come to my defense/.


    You stopped doing that when you were six years old; hmmmm ... I wonder
    why ....

    [Disclaimer: I used the standard Dan C technique of manipulating
    context here to completely change the point that he originally attempted
    (in however a misguided fashion) to communicate.]


    --
    ****** Warning - Highly US-Centric .sig approaching! ******
    The only way to differentiate "The War on Terrorism"
    from "The War on Drugs" is to measure the amount of piss
    on the Founding Fathers graves. - James J. Dines

  17. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On 2006-11-25, James J. Dines wrote:
    >
    > But you and Bush *DO* agree with each other! You both think that if you
    > make statements that are moronic and obvious lies often enough, then
    > people will accept them as fact :-)


    The entire advertising industry is based on that premise.

    --
    Chris F.A. Johnson, author |
    Shell Scripting Recipes: | My code in this post, if any,
    A Problem-Solution Approach | is released under the
    2005, Apress | GNU General Public Licence

  18. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Saturday 25 November 2006 16:54, Dan C stood up and addressed the masses
    in /alt.os.linux.mandrake/ as follows...:

    > On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:26:08 +0000, James J. Dines wrote:
    >
    >> Yes. I'm a doofus because you wanted to see your own name in the post
    >> :-)

    >
    > No, you're a doofus because you don't understand that I included my own
    > name in the list to illustrate the difference between my postings and the
    > morons at the top of the list. Get it now, dimwit?


    You call *me* a moron and you /killfile/ me over standing up for Europeans
    and not buying the ideology of American supremacy that you and your fellow
    supremacists are pushing onto the rest of the world.

    So *who* is really the moron here, huh?

    >>>> And **** YOU for attacking Aragorn. You'd have to be a moron who rises
    >>>> (lowers?) to the level of a Bush supporter to openly make such absurd
    >>>> comments. You and "Boy George" are treasonous birds of a feather :-)

    >
    >>> Kiss my ass, you pompous dimwit. Where did you get the (mistaken) idea
    >>> that I'm a Bush supporter, anyway? Are those voices telling you that?

    >
    >> Show me where I said you were a Bush supporter (Unfair, I know; I am
    >> challenging you to apply a level of intelligence to which you clearly
    >> aspire but can never attain.)

    >
    > OK, yeah, you didn't say it exactly, but certainly inferred it.


    Yes, he did, and he was right about it. The whole debate between you and I
    a while ago was exactly over that subject: George W. Bush, and the way he
    assumes the arrogance to invade sovereign nations under false reasons,
    which the American propaganda machine then continues to defend even after
    the truth has already been proved.

    In said thread, I spoke of the CIA transporting alleged terrorism suspects -
    i.e. people who were only *suspects*, they were not proven guilty yet - to
    foreign countries where the local laws do not forbid torturing, so as to
    get a confession out of them, since torture is illegal on American soil -
    or at least, at that stage it still was. We also both know that if you
    torture a man long enough, he'll confess to whatever you want him to
    confess to.

    I pointed out that Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsvelt and George Bush were
    lying through their teeth in denying it. I pointed out that the
    International Red Cross had been denied access to those prisoners, which is
    a clear violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. You called
    me a liar and various other names.

    And guess what? The truth *did* come out, even to the US citizens, as
    Condoleezza and George *admitted* that they had been lying - of course, out
    of their immaculate patriotism, "God bless America"(TM) - and that thus I
    had been right all along, and *you* had been wrong. I'm sure that
    swallowing your defeat on that must have been a bitter pill.

    So I was right and you were wrong. And Bush was indeed lying. And my
    comments about him were by far not as cheap or opportunistic as your own
    willingness to see them as such and comment on them.

    And so when Matt brought up that condescending "America is great and all of
    you Europeans are undereducated and undeveloped and you need us to cover
    your asses, so don't criticize us"-attitude, you decided to /killfile/ me.
    I can't see any other reason, since nothing I have done so far has been any
    worse than what you yourself were doing in earlier flamethreads with Matt.

    So you're not only a coward. You're a hypocrite as well, and a very
    opportunistic one at that.

    > Same difference in this case. It could be argued also, that saying two
    > people are "birds of a feather" means they agree with each other.
    > Right? Keep ignoring those voices you hear, anyway.


    Considering how you are so eager to stand up for Bush at every occasion -
    even when it's totally uncalled for - and how you have _already_ strongly
    defended Bush and his views in earlier threads - yes, too bad for you that
    Aspies have such good memories, huh? - you're once again showing what a
    lying hypocrite you are.

    Furthermore, I don't see why exercising my freedom of speech as a European
    with regard to Bush's international politics would be any worse than
    stalking a man - as you have been doing with J.J. Dines with every post the
    man makes during his first rounds here on the /A.O.L.M./ groups, as well as
    since his return, or as you have been doing at the time back with Leytos -
    or making cowardly comments about a perfectly innocent poster - yes, I am
    talking of myself now - behind his back, from within the safety of the
    knowledge that you have him /killfiled/ and that you won't have to fear his
    replies.

    Just one thing... Just because *you* have me /killfiled/ doesn't mean that
    everyone else has. In fact, I think you must be the only person on the
    entire Usenet who's ever /killfiled/ me - with the exception of a very
    abusive Wintroll about four or five years ago. And that says a lot. Both
    about you and about me.

    You know, the thing with Matt is that he probably can't help himself. He's
    obviously got some kind of condition. But you on the other hand are quite
    cold and calculated.

    *You* are a jerk *by* *your* *own* *choice,* and thus you are actually far
    worse than Matt.

    --
    With kind regards,

    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  19. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Saturday 25 November 2006 21:28, Chris F.A. Johnson stood up and
    addressed the masses in /alt.os.linux.mandrake/ as follows...:

    > On 2006-11-25, James J. Dines wrote:
    >>
    >> But you and Bush *DO* agree with each other! You both think that if you
    >> make statements that are moronic and obvious lies often enough, then
    >> people will accept them as fact :-)

    >
    > The entire advertising industry is based on that premise.


    Now that is something I've been saying for *years* already! And it's sad
    that we as human beings at the beginning of the third millenium still are
    no better than monkeys, in that we don't use our brains for higher purposes
    than to keep the unbridled capitalism alive.

    This is one of the reasons why I don't really consider myself to be human.
    I'd rather be called an alien then.

    --
    With kind regards,

    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  20. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Saturday 25 November 2006 15:52, Dan C stood up and addressed the masses
    in /alt.os.linux.mandrake/ as follows...:

    > On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:18:40 -0500, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
    >
    >>> Americans can never quite understand why they're almost globally
    >>> disliked - it's just the arrogance, ignorance and abuse of anyone
    >>> non-American that causes the problem!

    >
    >> No matter how low your opinion is of Americans, Dan C. doesn't even
    >> come close to the quality of the worst of them.

    >
    > Here's another cheap-shot artist at work. I wonder if Aragorn will call
    > him on it, saying it's unfair to talk bad about folks who you've
    > killfiled.
    >
    > I'm guessing he won't.


    And you are guessing right, because of two very distinct reasons, being...
    (1) that you yourself won't seem to stop making hideous comments behind my
    back, which gives others the right to do the same about you; and
    (2) that the reasons why others have got you /killfiled/ are far more honest
    than the reasons *you* gave for /killfiling/ me, _and_ far more honest than
    the bashing comments on my part you've continued to spread around this
    newsgroup.

    Once again, you lose.

    --
    With kind regards,

    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

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