On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:56:26 GMT, SD Tester wrote:

> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore

One for matt_the_mouth, methinks.

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:56:26 GMT, SD Tester wrote:
> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore

Welcome to the group.
Since the post showed up here, the test failed.
Do you know about the 400+ test groups on Usenet?

Some interesting information about test posts may be found in
http://livinginternet.com/u/uu_test.htm

Please use something like alt.test or misc.test
For binary test, use something like alt.binaries.test

For a more productive Usenet exeprience, please, read
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
and http://tgos.org/newbie/index2.html

For odd punctuation marks seen at end of text, you might look at
http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/gallery.htm

PS: Public Service Anouncement
Please, do not respond to a troll who implies I have lied in this post.
It is beyond him to understand the definition of lied.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...5936&dict=CALD

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:56:26 +0000, SD Tester wrote:

> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore

Oh...... no.

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:31:15 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

>> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore

> Welcome to the group.
> Since the post showed up here, the test failed.

You evil bastard.


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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:12:16 +0000, Dave wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:56:26 GMT, SD Tester wrote:
>
>> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore
>
> One for matt_the_mouth, methinks.
>

What makes you think that it isn't he?

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:22:14 -0600, Neil Ellwood wrote:
>> One for matt_the_mouth, methinks.
>>
>
> What makes you think that it isn't he?

You could tell PAN to keep an eye on the
NNTP-Posting-Host: field in the header.

SD's ip is 86.133.83.94 located somewhere around Letchworth, England.

Matt Left Coast's normally is 64.121.4.34, unless it has changed,
located some where around Redwood City, California.

Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:22:14 -0600, Neil Ellwood wrote:
>>> One for matt_the_mouth, methinks.
>>>
>> What makes you think that it isn't he?
>
> You could tell PAN to keep an eye on the
> NNTP-Posting-Host: field in the header.
>
> SD's ip is 86.133.83.94 located somewhere around Letchworth, England.
>
> Matt Left Coast's normally is 64.121.4.34, unless it has changed,
> located some where around Redwood City, California.

OK guys.. I sent the test here this morning because my posts to
alt.os.linux.slackware are not showing up on google groups, but they are
on my local server. I wanted another group in alt.os.linux to see if
they showed via google groups as well as my local usenet server.

So.. that being said, my posts did show up on both my local ISP's usenet
server as well as google groups, but my post to alt.os.linux.slackware
did not appear on google groups, but it did appear on my ISP's server.

What would this be telling me?

Thanks to anybody that can help...

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:15:56 +0000, SD Tester wrote:

> So.. that being said, my posts did show up on both my local ISP's usenet
> server as well as google groups, but my post to alt.os.linux.slackware
> did not appear on google groups, but it did appear on my ISP's server.
>
> What would this be telling me?

There is a (variable) amount of delay in posts showing up at GG. This is
probably what's happening here. I'll bet those posts are there by the
time you read this...

> Thanks to anybody that can help...

Welcome.

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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:31:53 -0600, Bit Twister wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:22:14 -0600, Neil Ellwood wrote:
>>> One for matt_the_mouth, methinks.
>>>
>>
>> What makes you think that it isn't he?
>
> You could tell PAN to keep an eye on the
> NNTP-Posting-Host: field in the header.
>
> SD's ip is 86.133.83.94 located somewhere around Letchworth, England.
>
> Matt Left Coast's normally is 64.121.4.34, unless it has changed,
> located some where around Redwood City, California.

I know , but he tells us that he is so good. :-)

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On Friday 24 November 2006 17:22, Neil Ellwood stood up and addressed the
masses in /alt.os.linux.mandrake/ as follows...:

> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:12:16 +0000, Dave wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:56:26 GMT, SD Tester wrote:
>>
>>> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore
>>
>> One for matt_the_mouth, methinks.
>>
>
> What makes you think that it isn't he?

It's posted from Windows and under another pseudonym. Now I can't say that
I'm too appreciative of Matt, but to my knowledge, neither the nymshifting
nor the posting from Glassware would be his style... ;-)

By the way, did y'all notice that the Flame Thread(TM) has been quiet for a
few days already? ;-)

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SD Tester wrote:

> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore

Welcome to the group. If your test post was intended for
alt.os.linux.mandrake it was indeed successful. Regretfully there are those
that will tell a lie [1][2] and say that it failed. I suggest you consider
for yourself why someone would claim a successful post is a failure and
judge there comments accordingly.

[1] The defintion I use for "tell a lie" is:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...1791&dict=CALD

"tell a lie/lies
to say something/things that are not true"

Anyone that claims I meant anything other than "to say something/things that
are not true" is not being truthful. Note the definition I use does NOT
REQUIRE deceit either intended or otherwise.

[2] The definition I use for "lie" is:

"lie
noun [C]
something that you say which you know is not true"

Again anyone that claims I meant something other than "something that you
say which you know is not true" is not being truthful. Note I use the NOUN
form of lie, NOT THE VERB, anyone trying to claim that I used the verb form
is trying to claim I said something I did not. Again, the definition I use
does not require deceit either intended or otherwise. Again, I suggest you
consider why someone would do such a thing and judge their posts
accordingly.

I used "tell a lie" to impart a specific meaning, I included the
clarifications here because there are those that try to claim I am saying
something I am not saying.

Neil Ellwood wrote:

>> Matt Left Coast's normally is 64.121.4.34, unless it has changed,
>> located some where around Redwood City, California.
>
> I know , but he tells us that he is so good. :-)
>

Of course I am. That is why I am trying to tell the person the Truth about
their test posts. Why people here are so afraid of a simple truth is beyond
me.

Bit Twister wrote:

> PS: Public Service Anouncement
> Please, do not respond to a troll who implies I have lied in this post.
> It is beyond him to understand the definition of lied.
> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...5936&dict=CALD

Again, I do not use the term lied. I used the phrase "tell a lie" which as a
different meaning:

The definition I use for "tell a lie" is:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...1791&dict=CALD

"tell a lie/lies
to say something/things that are not true"

Clearly a different definition. I do not have trouble understanding the
definition of lied, Bit has trouble understanding that there is a different
definition for "tell a lie" and "lie" (noun form of the word) than "lied".

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:52:41 -0800, left_coast wrote:

> Again, I do not use the term lied. I used the phrase "tell a lie" which as a
> different meaning:

Yes you are correct in what you "said", but it is beyone your ability to
understand the fact, that to create a lie (noun) you have to have lied
(verb) first.

You can not truthfully have me creating objects (nouns) without
preforming the activity (verb).

This is the end of our discussion.

Bit Twister wrote:

>> Again, I do not use the term lied. I used the phrase "tell a lie" which
>> as a different meaning:
>
> Yes you are correct in what you "said", but it is beyone your ability to
> understand the fact, that to create a lie (noun) you have to have lied
> (verb) first.

No, you "TELL A LIE":

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...1791&dict=CALD

I deliberately did not use the VERB form to avoid the meaning of the verb.
The dictionary allows for this by having a specific definition for "tell a
lie" that is different than lied.

In other words to "tell a lie" is different then to lie. The first is to
state something that is not true, the second is to try to deceive. I used
the FIRST which is defined as:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...1791&dict=CALD

It is clear that you can not understand the difference between "tell a lie"
and lied, that is the only real issue here.

Bit Twister wrote:

> You can not truthfully have me creating objects (nouns) without
> preforming the activity (verb).
>

Yes, I can, at least according to Cambridge, I can use the phrase "tell a
lie" which allows for the creation of the object (lie [noun]) without
performing the activity (lie [verb]) the verb in this case is "TELL". The
definition I use simply states that you tell something that is not true.

"Tell a lie" does not require the verb "lie".

Bit Twister wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:52:41 -0800, left_coast wrote:
>
>> Again, I do not use the term lied. I used the phrase "tell a lie" which
>> as a different meaning:
>
> Yes you are correct in what you "said", but it is beyone your ability to
> understand the fact, that to create a lie (noun) you have to have lied
> (verb) first.
>
> You can not truthfully have me creating objects (nouns) without
> preforming the activity (verb).

BTW, according to Websters on-line dictionary "b" definition of lie, the
noun, the speaker does not even need to believe the statement is true or
not.

"b : an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true
by the speaker"

If the speaker believes the statement to be true, then he is not trying to
deceive, yet the statement can still be a lie according to Websters. So, a
lie can be told without lying.

>
> This is the end of our discussion.

Of course it is, you once again spew a bunch of inaccurate information and
run away, refusing to take responsibility for what you said.

left_coast wrote:
> SD Tester wrote:
>
>> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore
>
> Welcome to the group. If your test post was intended for
> alt.os.linux.mandrake it was indeed successful. Regretfully there are those
> that will tell a lie [1][2] and say that it failed. I suggest you consider
> for yourself why someone would claim a successful post is a failure and
> judge there comments accordingly.
>
> [1] The defintion I use for "tell a lie" is:
>
> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...1791&dict=CALD
>
> "tell a lie/lies
> to say something/things that are not true"
>
> Anyone that claims I meant anything other than "to say something/things that
> are not true" is not being truthful. Note the definition I use does NOT
> REQUIRE deceit either intended or otherwise.
>
> [2] The definition I use for "lie" is:
>
> "lie
> noun [C]
> something that you say which you know is not true"
>
> Again anyone that claims I meant something other than "something that you
> say which you know is not true" is not being truthful. Note I use the NOUN
> form of lie, NOT THE VERB, anyone trying to claim that I used the verb form
> is trying to claim I said something I did not. Again, the definition I use
> does not require deceit either intended or otherwise. Again, I suggest you
> consider why someone would do such a thing and judge their posts
> accordingly.
>
> I used "tell a lie" to impart a specific meaning, I included the
> clarifications here because there are those that try to claim I am saying
> something I am not saying.

Has anybody ever told you how incredibly boring you are?

Bill Pfeifer wrote:

> left_coast wrote:
>> SD Tester wrote:
>>
>>> 4321 - Test Post - Please Ignore
>>
>> Welcome to the group. If your test post was intended for
>> alt.os.linux.mandrake it was indeed successful. Regretfully there are
>> those that will tell a lie [1][2] and say that it failed. I suggest you
>> consider for yourself why someone would claim a successful post is a
>> failure and judge there comments accordingly.
>>
>> [1] The defintion I use for "tell a lie" is:
>>
>> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...1791&dict=CALD
>>
>> "tell a lie/lies
>> to say something/things that are not true"
>>
>> Anyone that claims I meant anything other than "to say something/things
>> that are not true" is not being truthful. Note the definition I use does
>> NOT REQUIRE deceit either intended or otherwise.
>>
>> [2] The definition I use for "lie" is:
>>
>> "lie
>> noun [C]
>> something that you say which you know is not true"
>>
>> Again anyone that claims I meant something other than "something that you
>> say which you know is not true" is not being truthful. Note I use the
>> NOUN form of lie, NOT THE VERB, anyone trying to claim that I used the
>> verb form is trying to claim I said something I did not. Again, the
>> definition I use does not require deceit either intended or otherwise.
>> Again, I suggest you consider why someone would do such a thing and judge
>> their posts accordingly.
>>
>> I used "tell a lie" to impart a specific meaning, I included the
>> clarifications here because there are those that try to claim I am saying
>> something I am not saying.
>
> Has anybody ever told you how incredibly boring you are?

Then don't read what I have to say. The simple fact is, I am correct in what
I say. It is regrettable that you feel the need to make this about
something other than the message at hand, there are way to many people
already here doing just that. And yes, it is boring trying to constantly
correct the miss-information spread by my detractors.
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