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  1. Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

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    Analysis of posts to alt.os.linux.mandrake by Robert Marshall
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    (stats compiled with a script by Garry Knight)


    Total posts considered: 232 over 7 days
    Earliest article: Fri Nov 3 21:25:07 2006
    Latest article: Fri Nov 10 20:25:02 2006
    Original articles: 20, replies: 212
    Total size of posts: 688,158 bytes (672K) (0.66M)
    Average 33 articles per day, 0.09 MB per day, 2,966 bytes per article
    Total headers: 344 KB bodies: 327 KB
    Body text - quoted: 107 KB, original: 201 KB = 65.15%, sigs: 17 KB
    Total number of posters: 58, average 11,864 bytes per poster
    Total number of threads: 30, average 22,938 bytes per thread
    Total number of User-Agents: 30

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    Top 20 posters by number of articles
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    1: left_coast ..................................... : 69
    2: Aragorn .............................. : 20
    3: Chris Hunter ................... : 17
    4: Bit Twister ...................... : 13
    5: "johnny" ................................... : 9
    6: Dan C ............................ : 6
    7: Dave ................................... : 6
    8: Keith Lee .......................... : 5
    9: nobody@tek.com (Kevin the Drummer)............................. : 5
    10: nobody you know ........................... : 5
    11: Blinky the Shark ......................... : 5
    12: alex .......................................... : 5
    13: David Mathog .............................. : 4
    14: "James J. Dines" ....................... : 4
    15: Donald Tees ....................... : 4
    16: "James D. Beard" ....................... : 3
    17: Jim Howe ................................... : 2
    18: "Santo" ............................... : 2
    19: "Andy" ......................................... : 2
    20: "Ranma" .................................. : 2

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    Top 20 posters by article size in Kbytes
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    1: left_coast ..................................... : 195
    2: Aragorn .............................. : 105
    3: Chris Hunter ................... : 38
    4: Bit Twister ...................... : 33
    5: "johnny" ................................... : 22
    6: Jim Howe ................................... : 15
    7: alt.os.linux.mandriva Stats ............ : 14
    8: Walter Mautner ........ : 13
    9: MikeS ................................. : 13
    10: nobody@tek.com (Kevin the Drummer)............................. : 12
    11: alt.os.linux.mandrake Stats ............ : 12
    12: Dave ................................... : 12
    13: Blinky the Shark ......................... : 12
    14: Donald Tees ....................... : 11
    15: Dan C ............................ : 10
    16: "James J. Dines" ....................... : 10
    17: alex .......................................... : 9
    18: Keith Lee .......................... : 9
    19: nobody you know ........................... : 9
    20: "James D. Beard" ....................... : 9

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    Top 11 responders by original text (> 5 posts)
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    1: Aragorn .............................. : 80.35%
    2: alex .......................................... : 65.61%
    3: Dave ................................... : 63.37%
    4: left_coast ..................................... : 62.53%
    5: Chris Hunter ................... : 61.68%
    6: Dan C ............................ : 59.68%
    7: Keith Lee .......................... : 53.54%
    8: Bit Twister ...................... : 52.12%
    9: nobody you know ........................... : 50.06%
    10: nobody@tek.com (Kevin the Drummer)............................. : 48.05%
    11: Blinky the Shark ......................... : 21.10%

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    Bottom 11 responders by original text (> 5 posts)
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    1: "johnny" ................................... : 21.04%
    2: Blinky the Shark ......................... : 21.10%
    3: nobody@tek.com (Kevin the Drummer)............................. : 48.05%
    4: nobody you know ........................... : 50.06%
    5: Bit Twister ...................... : 52.12%
    6: Keith Lee .......................... : 53.54%
    7: Dan C ............................ : 59.68%
    8: Chris Hunter ................... : 61.68%
    9: left_coast ..................................... : 62.53%
    10: Dave ................................... : 63.37%
    11: alex .......................................... : 65.61%

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    Top 20 threads by no. of articles
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    1: Test Message........................................... ........ : 108
    2: Mandriva 2007 issues........................................... : 14
    3: Mandriva 2007 questions........................................ : 11
    4: default gateway issue.......................................... : 11
    5: Bootable floppy or CD under Mandriva Linux 2007?............... : 11
    6: Politics (was: Re: Test Message)............................... : 10
    7: newsreader?....................................... ............. : 9
    8: Good forum about k9copy?....................................... : 8
    9: ATI drivers with Mandriva 2007................................. : 6
    10: multi-boot pc with different mandriva version.................. : 6
    11: *.run installer.. how to?...................................... : 3
    12: Resolution changes when system times out....................... : 3
    13: Filesystems unmounting themselves.............................. : 3
    14: firefox file selection dialog slider doesn't work.............. : 3
    15: SAMBA PDC - Roaming Profile will not load...................... : 2
    16: Novell = SCO............................................... .... : 2
    17: Can Process X determine IP address a SSH login is using in Proc : 2
    18: Moving to Linux............................................. ... : 2
    19: new kernels make bogus lilo.conf............................... : 2
    20: [OT] political debate; was [Re: Test Message].................. : 2

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    Top 20 threads by size in KB
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    1: Test Message........................................... ........ : 339
    2: Mandriva 2007 questions........................................ : 39
    3: Politics (was: Re: Test Message)............................... : 36
    4: Mandriva 2007 issues........................................... : 27
    5: Bootable floppy or CD under Mandriva Linux 2007?............... : 26
    6: ATI drivers with Mandriva 2007................................. : 24
    7: default gateway issue.......................................... : 22
    8: newsreader?....................................... ............. : 16
    9: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandriva........................... : 14
    10: Good forum about k9copy?....................................... : 13
    11: multi-boot pc with different mandriva version.................. : 12
    12: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake........................... : 12
    13: SAMBA PDC - Roaming Profile will not load...................... : 12
    14: Resolution changes when system times out....................... : 7
    15: Moving to Linux............................................. ... : 6
    16: Filesystems unmounting themselves.............................. : 5
    17: Can Process X determine IP address a SSH login is using in Proc : 5
    18: firefox file selection dialog slider doesn't work.............. : 5
    19: *.run installer.. how to?...................................... : 5
    20: Cisco VPN Client -> network hang or system lock................ : 4

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    Top 9 cross-posted groups
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    1: alt.os.linux.mandriva............................. ............. : 31
    2: alt.linux.suse.................................... ............. : 6
    3: alt.os.linux.debian............................... ............. : 6
    4: soc.culture.singapore............................. ............. : 2
    5: alt.os.linux...................................... ............. : 2
    6: comp.os.linux.misc................................ ............. : 2
    7: soc.culture.malaysia.............................. ............. : 2
    8: comp.os.linux.networking.......................... ............. : 2
    9: alt.os.linux.suse................................. ............. : 2

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    Top 10 User Agents by poster
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    1: KNode............................................. ............. : 10
    2: Pan............................................... ............. : 9
    3: slrn.............................................. ............. : 8
    4: G2................................................ ............. : 7
    5: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11....................................... : 6
    6: Mozilla........................................... ............. : 4
    7: Unknown........................................... ............. : 4
    8: pan............................................... ............. : 3
    9: Forte Agent............................................. ....... : 2
    10: Opera Mail.............................................. ....... : 1

    ================================================== ==========================
    Top 10 User Agents by number of posts
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    1: KNode............................................. ........ : 114 (49%)
    2: slrn.............................................. ........ : 34 (15%)
    3: Pan............................................... ........ : 19 ( 8%)
    4: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11.................................. : 14 ( 6%)
    5: Mozilla........................................... ........ : 13 ( 6%)
    6: pan............................................... ........ : 13 ( 6%)
    7: G2................................................ ........ : 8 ( 3%)
    8: Forte Agent............................................. .. : 6 ( 3%)
    9: unknown........................................... ........ : 3 ( 1%)
    10: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows.............................. : 2 ( 1%)

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    Top 10 time zones
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    1: UTC............................................... ............. : 92
    2: -0800.............................................. ............ : 87
    3: -0600.............................................. ............ : 28
    4: -0500.............................................. ............ : 11
    5: +0100............................................. ............. : 8
    6: +1100............................................. ............. : 2
    7: .................................................. ............. : 1
    8: +0900............................................. ............. : 1
    9: -0500 (EST)............................................. ....... : 1
    10: +1030............................................. ............. : 1

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  2. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:00:03 +0000, alt.os.linux.mandrake Stats wrote:

    > ================================================== ==========================
    > Top 20 posters by number of articles
    > ================================================== ==========================
    > 1: left_coast ..................................... : 69


    [...]

    > ================================================== ==========================
    > Top 20 posters by article size in Kbytes
    > ================================================== ==========================
    > 1: left_coast ..................................... : 195


    [...]

    > ================================================== ==========================
    > Top 20 threads by no. of articles
    > ================================================== ==========================
    > 1: Test Message........................................... ........ : 108


    [...]

    > ================================================== ==========================
    > Top 20 threads by size in KB
    > ================================================== ==========================
    > 1: Test Message........................................... ........ : 339


    *sigh*

    When will people learn? Trolls cannot be reasoned with, they're too stupid
    to learn.

    --
    Linux: because I work with Windows, and that's bad enough.
    AOLM FAQ - http://blinkynet.net/comp/faq_aolm.html
    RLU #300033 - MDV 2006 - WindowMaker 0.92.0

  3. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dave wrote:

    >> 1: Test Message........................................... ........ : *
    >> 339

    >
    > sigh
    >
    > When will people learn? Trolls cannot be reasoned with, they're too stupid
    > to learn.
    >


    Yeah, I am getting sick of the trolls that don't learn that telling people
    that test posts are a failure is just wrong.



  4. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dave wrote:

    > Trolls cannot be reasoned with


    Once again, Dave, When I see some REASON I will read it. But the fact is, I
    have people claiming that Europeans were not involved in the slave trade,
    simply FALSE and UNREASONABLE. But you bet, I have to admit, I do have a
    hard time trying to reason with the troll that made the false claim
    Europeans never kidnapped Africans for slavery. Bwhahahahaha, talk about
    being an unreasonable troll.

  5. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:38:39 -0800, left_coast wrote:

    > Yeah, I am getting sick


    Sounds like a lie to me.
    Have you been to the doctor with that sickness you are talking about.

    > of the trolls


    Yet another lie. You are the troll making stupid lies about the post.

    > that don't learn that telling people


    Another lie, because of the next upcomming lie

    > that test posts are a failure is just wrong.


    Now it's "just wrong" and not a lie after making 100's of replies
    trying to defend your lies.

    There is nothing "wrong" using humor to help spare the feelings when you are
    trying to tell someone they have made a mistake.


  6. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    Bit Twister wrote:

    > On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:38:39 -0800, left_coast wrote:
    >
    >> Yeah, I am getting sick

    >
    > Sounds like a lie to me.


    Don't care what you think.

    > Have you been to the doctor with that sickness you are talking about.


    Naw, I know that it is the people that TELL LIES about test posts that need
    to go to the doctor.

    >
    >> of the trolls

    >
    > Yet another lie.


    Nope, it is the truth. I am the expert on what I am sick of.

    > You are the troll making stupid lies about the post.


    Nope, I tell the TRUTH. I'm not the one that has to try to hid behind the
    claim "I'm not trying to deceive". Anyone that is telling the TRUTH would
    simply say they are telling the truth rather than "I'm not trying to
    deceive"

    >
    >
    >> that don't learn that telling people

    >
    > Another lie, because of the next upcomming lie
    >
    >> that test posts are a failure is just wrong.

    >
    > Now it's "just wrong" and not a lie after making 100's of replies
    > trying to defend your lies.
    >
    > There is nothing "wrong" using humor to help spare the feelings when you
    > are trying to tell someone they have made a mistake.



  7. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    Bit Twister wrote:

    >> that test posts are a failure is just wrong.

    >
    > Now it's "just wrong" and not a lie after making 100's of replies
    > trying to defend your lies.


    You are not making ANY sense as usual. It seems obvious to me you are
    posting in anger driven by hate.

    >
    > There is nothing "wrong" using humor to help spare the feelings when you
    > are trying to tell someone they have made a mistake.


    Since humor can be used to LIE, claiming that it is humor does not mean it
    is not a lie. Come back when you are RATIONAL.

    Claiming that test posts are a failure is a LIE.


  8. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    Bit Twister wrote:

    > Now it's "just wrong" and not a lie after making 100's of replies
    > trying to defend your lies.


    What is WRONG is denying the dictionary definitions of words in order to
    warp the meaning to justify your hate.

  9. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:42:05 -0800, left_coast wrote:

    [Snip blatherings]

    Stupid ****ing retard. Don't bother with a reply, I'll just nail you
    further down the scorefile.

    --
    Linux: because I work with Windows, and that's bad enough.
    AOLM FAQ - http://blinkynet.net/comp/faq_aolm.html
    RLU #300033 - MDV 2006 - WindowMaker 0.92.0

  10. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    Bit Twister wrote:

    > Now it's "just wrong" and not a lie


    In most cases lies are WRONG. Being a lie an being wrong are NOT MUTUALLY
    EXCLUSIVE. Just how stupid are you? How much of a troll does it take to try
    to say that a saying "just wrong" contradicts the claim of a lie. To tell
    the lie that the test post failed is just wrong. Geeszzzz, you, with your
    irrational claims and Aragorn with his bogus claims that Europeans did not
    kidnap Africans, to peas in a pod, both out of touch with reality.

  11. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    Dave wrote:

    > Stupid ****ing retard. Don't bother with a reply, I'll just nail you
    > further down the scorefile.
    >


    Bahahahahha, nail me with your childish name calling? I think not. As I have
    said in other places, If you think telling lies about test posts failing is
    a good thing, pleas DO PUT ME IN YOUR KILLFILE. You act as if I respect you
    enough to care what the likes of you think.

  12. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:03:04 -0800, left_coast wrote:
    >
    > It seems obvious to me you are posting in anger driven by hate.


    No, just defing myself from your mindless lying attacks.

    > Since humor can be used to LIE,


    Yet another usual matt left_coast tatic, create a decitful statement to justify
    the upcomming lame lying attempt.

    > claiming that it is humor does not mean it is not a lie.


    Yup, there is your lie. Since I was deceiving no one, I was not lying.
    See definition of lying farther down this post.

    > Come back when you are RATIONAL.


    Yet another lying attempt to discredit me with *screaming* no less.

    > Claiming that test posts are a failure is a LIE.


    You can not have me creating a "LIE" (that is a noun) unless I have lied.
    Lied, is a /verb/, which you seem to not have the brains to understand.

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...5936&dict=CALD
    verb [I] lying, lied, lied
    to say or write something which is not true in order to deceive someone:


  13. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    Bit Twister wrote:

    >> It seems obvious to me you are posting in anger driven by hate.

    >
    > No, just defing myself from your mindless lying attacks.
    >


    Yeah, right. I said NOTHING about YOU until you attacked ME. I described a
    behavior. It was your guilty conscience that made you think it was about
    YOU. Your hate is making your irrational.

    I stated: "telling people that test posts are a failure is just wrong." the
    only people that statement applies to are people that are "telling people
    that test posts are a failure". In other words, the only way the statement
    could apply to you is if you were "telling people that test posts are a
    failure" So, as long as you are saying that I said something about you, you
    are admitting that you are " telling people that test posts are a failure".

  14. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:42:34 -0800, left_coast wrote:
    >
    > Yeah, right. I said NOTHING about YOU until you attacked ME.


    Hahaha, playing at being the victim again I see. That is a lie.

    You are the stalker and your first attack can be seen here
    Message-ID:
    Thurs, Sep 29 2005 1

    > I described a behavior.


    No, you are the one making deliberate libelous accusations.
    No one can be lying when they are not trying to deceive any one.

    You did the "humor hurts" crap a few times and nobody was buying your
    lies and jumped all over you so you quit that attack.

    > It was your guilty conscience that made you think it was about YOU.


    Not hardly, you have left plenty of tracks easly followed with google.

    Most of the time you posted your discrediting attempts as responses to my
    reply. Then it seems sometime in the last few months after I showed
    you stalking me, you have started posting your deliberate libelous
    accusation to the op's post to make it seem like you were not stalking me.

    > Your hate is making your irrational.


    Yet another lying attempt to descredit me.

  15. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake

    On Saturday 11 November 2006 00:04, Dave stood up and addressed the masses
    in /alt.os.linux.mandrake/ as follows...:

    > On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:00:03 +0000, alt.os.linux.mandrake Stats wrote:
    >
    >> 1: left_coast ..................................... :
    >>
    >> 1: left_coast ..................................... :
    >>
    >> 1: Test Message........................................... ........ :
    >>
    >> 1: Test Message........................................... ........ :

    >
    > *sigh*
    >
    > When will people learn? Trolls cannot be reasoned with, they're too stupid
    > to learn.


    I agree, *but* even if we were all to shut up at the snap of someone's
    fingers, he'll still be going on for weeks - I noticed him even posting a
    reply to me in a thread I had already /plonked/ a week before that - and as
    you can see - unless you've got him /killfiled/ - he posts several replies
    to the same post, repeating himself over and over, as if that would prove
    him right somehow.

    Believe me, I *am* tempted to simply run away from the thread - as has so
    far always been the case in any debate/flamewar[1] I've had with Matt, and
    as probably _will_ happen here again sooner or later - but I just can't
    stand lies being told - blame it on my Asperger's - or people being
    bullied.

    And as long as people are going to be posting test posts to this group -
    yeah, they never learn, do they? - Bit Twister will - correctly - set them
    straight, with a sneering post from Matt following right up the next
    minute.

    Having been bullied myself in school (and elsewhere), I just can't stand
    bullying anymore, no matter who does it or who the victim is. And I think
    we can *all* agree that Bit Twister is one of the most helpful people on
    this newsgroup. He doesn't deserve to be bullied or stalked by a psychotic
    person who can't even read English right without reading something
    unwritten into it.

    _
    [1] The fact that he doesn't even understand or notice that any thread in
    which he posts more than three replies - I am leaving a large margin here -
    deteriorates in a flamewar clearly says something about his psychotic
    nature.

    Schizophrenics *do* tend to lose grip of reality. He should really seek out
    professional help. But then again, the very nature of paranoid
    schizophrenia is also responsible for this advice being waived as a
    malicious or insulting comment from the other person, which makes it
    difficult - not to say virtually impossible - to help such people come back
    to terms with reality.

    In his eyes, he's the only righteous person on the planet, and everyone who
    dares criticize him or even look at him in what he perceives as "the wrong
    way" is an evil enemy that needs chastizing.

    --
    With kind regards,

    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  16. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    On 2006-11-11, Bit Twister wrote:
    > On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:42:34 -0800, left_coast wrote:
    >>
    >> Yeah, right. I said NOTHING about YOU until you attacked ME.

    >
    > Hahaha, playing at being the victim again I see. That is a lie.


    PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

    --
    Chris F.A. Johnson, author |
    Shell Scripting Recipes: | My code in this post, if any,
    A Problem-Solution Approach | is released under the
    2005, Apress | GNU General Public Licence

  17. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    On Saturday 11 November 2006 01:10, left_coast stood up and addressed the
    masses in /alt.os.linux.mandrake/ as follows...:

    > Bit Twister wrote:
    >
    >> Now it's "just wrong" and not a lie after making 100's of replies
    >> trying to defend your lies.

    >
    > What is WRONG is denying the dictionary definitions of words in order to
    > warp the meaning to justify your hate.


    If only you were to allow yourself to sit back, take a deep breath and find
    some tranquility in your brain before you went ahead in typing your reply,
    you would see for yourself that there was no denying of dictionary
    definitions since a dictionary only gives you synonyms or explanations of
    isolated words, and not of phrases formed by combining those words into a
    sentence.

    And in addition, if you were to throw in a bit of honesty in there, you
    would even come to see that there is no hatred in what Bit Twister wrote,
    or what I myself wrote, or Chris Hunter for that matter, or Santo, or Dave,
    or whomever - other than Dan C, but that's another breed of character - but
    that it is *you* who hates *us,* and with a passionate vengeance too for
    that matter.

    Sure, you can offend us. You can hurt us. You can insult us. You can
    drive us insane of anger and frustration. But that's not the same thing as
    hatred. I cannot speak for other people but myself, of course, but I do
    think I'm not that far off the baseline when I say that nobody here really
    hates you, while your posts show nothing _but_ hatred against many of us.

    Think about it for a while, dude. And maybe, just maybe, you will see the
    light somewhere.

    --
    With kind regards,

    *Aragorn*
    (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

  18. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 02:21:38 GMT, Aragorn wrote:

    Lots of snippage follows:
    > deteriorates in a flamewar clearly says something about his psychotic nature.
    >
    > Schizophrenics *do* tend to lose grip of reality.
    > In his eyes, he's the only righteous person on the planet, and everyone who
    > dares criticize him or even look at him in what he perceives as "the wrong
    > way" is an evil enemy that needs chastizing.


    I can conceed to your higher level of mental disorder knowledge, but having
    watched him attacking one or two others, I would say he just a bullying
    argumentive troll and needs a lart application.

    Everyone that shows him up, windup with him calling them a liar when
    he looses the argument.


  19. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:19:06 -0500, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:

    > PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!


    I can feel your pain, but he has been stalking me for over a year and
    the more abuse reports generated the quicker we might be able to
    have him on dialup to reduce his usenet abuse.

  20. Re: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake [OT]

    On 2006-11-11, Bit Twister wrote:
    > On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:19:06 -0500, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
    >
    >> PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

    >
    > I can feel your pain, but he has been stalking me for over a year and


    That's becasue you rise to the bait. Killfile the twit and move
    on.

    > the more abuse reports generated the quicker we might be able to
    > have him on dialup to reduce his usenet abuse.


    That's unlikely. In the meantime, the rest of us get to suffer
    through the drivel he posts.

    --
    Chris F.A. Johnson, author |
    Shell Scripting Recipes: | My code in this post, if any,
    A Problem-Solution Approach | is released under the
    2005, Apress | GNU General Public Licence

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