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  1. Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.


    Sigh.

    It appears posters like Owl can not use Google and merely parrot the
    lies of William Poaster, Roy and Liarnut amongst others. In COLA there
    are so many to choose from.

    So here ya go Owl, a download away:

    http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7NRq...eature=related
    http://www.codeplex.com/vdm/Wiki/Vie...ringTitle=Home

    Source available. Download away. Remind you of anything?

    Not that I have ever really found much of a use of virtual desktops but
    regardless if you do, there they are.

    Enjoy!



  2. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    Hadron wrote:

    >
    > Sigh.
    >
    > It appears posters like Owl can not use Google and merely parrot the
    > lies of William Poaster, Roy and Liarnut amongst others. In COLA there
    > are so many to choose from.
    >
    > So here ya go Owl, a download away:
    >
    > http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7NRq...eature=related
    >

    http://www.codeplex.com/vdm/Wiki/Vie...ringTitle=Home
    >
    > Source available. Download away. Remind you of anything?
    >
    > Not that I have ever really found much of a use of virtual desktops but
    > regardless if you do, there they are.


    And utterly useless. Have you actually tried to use that stuff, "true linux
    advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X
    specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "defragger
    professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven", "time
    coordinator", "email sage" and "OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron
    Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Richard, aka Damian O'Leary, aka Steve
    Townsend, aka Ubuntu King?

    You will soon encounter that lots of apps place suddenly their Msg-Boxes on
    the currently active desktop, software which runs to a point and then opens
    a new dialogue does so on the currently active one and not the one the app
    is running in and so on.
    It is utterly confusing since you have to check which app demands your
    attention now. Bull**** stuff

    > Enjoy!


    Nope. Not masochistic enough for garbage like that
    --
    Another name for a Windows tutorial is crash course


  3. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    After takin' a swig o' grog, Peter Köhlmann belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Sigh.
    >>
    >> It appears posters like Owl can not use Google and merely parrot the
    >> lies of William Poaster, Roy and Liarnut amongst others. In COLA there
    >> are so many to choose from.
    >>
    >> So here ya go Owl, a download away:
    >>
    >> http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx
    >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7NRq...eature=related
    >>

    > http://www.codeplex.com/vdm/Wiki/Vie...ringTitle=Home
    >>
    >> Source available. Download away. Remind you of anything?
    >>
    >> Not that I have ever really found much of a use of virtual desktops but
    >> regardless if you do, there they are.

    >
    > And utterly useless. Have you actually tried to use that stuff, "true linux
    > advocate", ...
    >
    > You will soon encounter that lots of apps place suddenly their Msg-Boxes on
    > the currently active desktop, software which runs to a point and then opens
    > a new dialogue does so on the currently active one and not the one the app
    > is running in and so on.
    > It is utterly confusing since you have to check which app demands your
    > attention now. Bull**** stuff
    >
    >> Enjoy!

    >
    > Nope. Not masochistic enough for garbage like that


    Did you enjoy Hadron's little Googlefest, Peter? He's obviously never tried
    the virtual-desktop PowerToy.

    The VirtuaWin looks intriguing, especially as it comes from an open-source
    coder instead of the Microsoft PowerToys group.

    http://www.download.com/Portable-Vir...-10781407.html

    Version: Portable VirtuaWin 3.2

    "Beware!"

    by wooskie booskie on February 22, 2008

    Pros: nothing I know of, sounded good in the description.

    Cons: the download is an html file. you will be redirected to softpedia,
    which does not guarantee the software is safe. the two download sites are
    in the US, and Romania. The US one was not working. Romania is notorious
    for network criminal activity. Not being brain dead, I passed on this
    one. Too suspicious to take a chance.

    Well, maybe a bad day. How about this one:

    http://virtuawin-portable.en.softonic.com/

    Unfortunately, it seems that this portable version has a few bugs, most
    annoying of which is the gaps that sometimes appear in the taskbar when
    you change desktops. The developers say this is caused by a bug in the
    'Group similar taskbar buttons' feature of the Windows taskbar which
    cannot always correctly handle the large number of window state changes
    that occur during desktop change. However, it can be remedied by
    disabling the taskbar option although this is quite a drastic measure to
    take to ensure this program works properly.

    A useful way to organise your Windows and desktop but this portable
    version is still prone to bugs.

    What do I always say?

    "Wrong again, Hadron!"

    --
    Being a miner, as soon as you're too old and tired and sick and stupid to
    do your job properly, you have to go, where the very opposite applies with
    the judges.
    -- Beyond the Fringe

  4. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    Micoshaft asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Hadron
    wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Department of Marketing:


    >
    > Sigh.


    You are engaged in net abuse and content spam posts.


    Install some Linux and delete windummy OSen from your PC
    to enjoy its full benefits. Its free.


    http://www.livecdlist.com
    http://www.distroatch.com

  5. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    After takin' a swig o' grog, 7 belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > Micoshaft asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Hadron
    > wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Department of Marketing:
    >
    >> Sigh.

    >
    > You are engaged in net abuse and content spam posts.
    >
    > Install some Linux and delete windummy OSen from your PC
    > to enjoy its full benefits. Its free.


    Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown and
    bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without the
    bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.

    Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.

    --
    It is easier to run down a hill than up one.

  6. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    "Clogwog" writes:

    > "Chris Ahlstrom" schreef in bericht
    > news:lU0Sk.63729$De7.60806@bignews7.bellsouth.net. ..
    >> After takin' a swig o' grog, 7 belched out
    >> this bit o' wisdom:
    >>
    >>> Micoshaft asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Hadron
    >>> wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Department of Marketing:
    >>>
    >>>> Sigh.
    >>>
    >>> You are engaged in net abuse and content spam posts.
    >>>
    >>> Install some Linux and delete windummy OSen from your PC
    >>> to enjoy its full benefits. Its free.

    >>
    >> Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an
    >> overblown and
    >> bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without the
    >> bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.


    What are you talking about?

    I use Debian. I have corrected you in the Debian news groups. I today
    have been telling someone how to do things that virtual desktops do
    without the need for them to keep the OS slim and resource needs down.

    Why do you tell so many lies?

    YOU openly admit to using Office. YOU program Windows systems. You are a
    hypocrite, a liar and a fraud.

    >>
    >> Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.


    Better than you.

    >
    > Err! Liarnut's deflating ego again, why don't you use another nym,
    > Terry Schestowitz might be very appropriate!
    >


    He's as big a twister of the truth as Terry.

    >
    >>
    >> --
    >> It is easier to run down a hill than up one.
    >>


  7. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    > Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown and
    > bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without the
    > bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >
    > Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.


    You can tell by how he is constantly defending Micro$oft and
    denigrating Linux and those who advocate it. 8)


  8. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    In article ,
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >
    > Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown and
    > bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without the
    > bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >
    > Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.


    He advocates the use of Debian. You think Debian is broken and
    fragile?? Overblown and bloated??


    --
    --Tim Smith

  9. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    Tim Smith writes:

    > In article ,
    > Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >>
    >> Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown and
    >> bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without the
    >> bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >>
    >> Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.

    >
    > He advocates the use of Debian. You think Debian is broken and
    > fragile?? Overblown and bloated??


    I also install it for others. I also contribute occasionally to the
    Debian news group. You might like to refer to a few of the posts
    involving Chris too. It is quite revealing.

    Chris is telling lies again and making things up as he goes along. I
    know a lot of posters didnt want to think that of him but he does it
    time and time again.


  10. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    Tim Smith wrote:

    > In article ,
    > Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >>
    >> Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown
    >> and bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without
    >> the bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >>
    >> Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.

    >
    > He advocates the use of Debian.


    Nope. He *claims* to advocate the use of Debian. That does not mean that he
    uses linux at all

    > You think Debian is broken and
    > fragile?? Overblown and bloated??
    >


    No. It is way behind current development, except if you use the
    testing/unstable versions. And then it is worse than other distros. Add to
    that the fact that they adhere to a rigorous "political" stance regarding
    non-free software (and that includes subtleties in licence wording), and
    you have a sure recipe for disaster when a dimwit like Hadron Quark comes
    along
    --
    Klingon function calls do not have 'parameters' -
    they have 'arguments' - and they ALWAYS WIN THEM.


  11. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    Hadron wrote:

    > Tim Smith writes:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown
    >>> and bloated operating system to get features that we already get,
    >>> without the bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >>>
    >>> Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.

    >>
    >> He advocates the use of Debian. You think Debian is broken and
    >> fragile?? Overblown and bloated??

    >
    > I also install it for others. I also contribute occasionally to the
    > Debian news group. You might like to refer to a few of the posts
    > involving Chris too. It is quite revealing.


    Yes. It is revealing.
    You are mostly ignored in the debian group. And those who don't ignorte you
    are attacked by you as vicious as you do it in cola

    > Chris is telling lies again and making things up as he goes along. I
    > know a lot of posters didnt want to think that of him but he does it
    > time and time again.


    Certainly. That explains naturally everything in the debian group regarding
    your "helping people" there. Which, quite simply, does not happen
    --
    "Last I checked, it wasn't the power cord for the Clue Generator that
    was sticking up your ass." - John Novak, rasfwrj


  12. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    After takin' a swig o' grog, Tim Smith belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > In article ,
    > Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >>
    >> Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown and
    >> bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without the
    >> bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >>
    >> Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.

    >
    > He advocates the use of Debian. You think Debian is broken and
    > fragile?? Overblown and bloated??


    Learn to read, Tim. Hadron was crowing about "VirtualWin" and the Microsoft
    Virtual Desktop PowerToy, both of which are rather buggy (I have tried the
    Microsoft toy myself), and how we should use them, and "enjoy" them.

    You would do better to rein in your haste to make a pithy sarcastic
    pronouncement and instead pause, reread, and reflect, before coming up with
    a boner like that one.

    Now, I personally give Hadron kudos for using Debian. It does not, however,
    negate his jeering anti-Linux and anti-OSS attitude, which all to often
    has, as its counterpoint, an artificial boosting of the Windows solution
    as a clear preference, and throwing insults at posters who argue the
    preference for Linux.

    Hadron acts like he alone is fit to weight and judge the relative merits of
    Linux and OSS versus Microsoft and commercial solutions; all others are, in
    his world-view, liars, zealots, and know-nothings. The only reason you
    don't get "the treatment" from that contumelious prick is that you, too,
    prefer to jibe Linux fans over Microsoft (and Mac) fans.

    DFS and Moshe? Hadron positively drools over them in his interactions with
    them. Most unseemly.

    --
    Writing software is more fun than working.

  13. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    After takin' a swig o' grog, Peter Köhlmann belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >> I also install it for others. I also contribute occasionally to the
    >> Debian news group. You might like to refer to a few of the posts
    >> involving Chris too. It is quite revealing.

    >
    > Yes. It is revealing.
    > You are mostly ignored in the debian group. And those who don't ignorte you
    > are attacked by you as vicious as you do it in cola
    >
    >> Chris is telling lies again and making things up as he goes along. I
    >> know a lot of posters didnt want to think that of him but he does it
    >> time and time again.

    >
    > Certainly. That explains naturally everything in the debian group regarding
    > your "helping people" there. Which, quite simply, does not happen


    He's hallucinating at worst, making false allusions at best.

    Not much excitement happens in most of the Debian groups, and that's the way
    it should be. I appreciate that he has generally kept any disagreements
    low-key outside of COLA.

    Here, though, it's on like Donkey Kong!

    --
    Ninety percent of the time things turn out worse than you thought they would.
    The other ten percent of the time you had no right to expect that much.
    -- Augustine

  14. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "VirtualDesktops" on Windows.

    On Nov 10, 11:19*am, Hadron wrote:
    > Sigh.
    >
    > It appears posters like Owl can not use Google and merely parrot the
    > lies of William Poaster, Roy and Liarnut amongst others. In COLA there
    > are so many to choose from.
    >
    > So here ya go Owl, a download away:
    >
    > http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/htt...shots&referrin...
    >
    > Source available. Download away. Remind you of anything?
    >
    > Not that I have ever really found much of a use of virtual desktops but
    > regardless if you do, there they are.
    >
    > Enjoy!


    I've been using this one

    http://www.codeplex.com/vdm

    on my xp box. it's seems reasonable, but it does suffer from the 4
    desktop limit of the xp powertoy. Though, it seems to work better all
    around. Still, I don't find vitrual desktops all that useful either.

    And, FWIW, Windows7 is supposedly support them out of the box. We
    shall see.

    --
    Tom Shelton

  15. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    Hadron wrote:
    >
    > Sigh.
    >
    >


    Sigh. The day you spank me with be the day I say, "Stop tickling my
    butt, Hadron."

    Meanwhile... the thread you meant to reply in continues
    <------- over there.


  16. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:29:35 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Sigh.
    >>
    >> It appears posters like Owl can not use Google and merely parrot the
    >> lies of William Poaster, Roy and Liarnut amongst others. In COLA there
    >> are so many to choose from.
    >>
    >> So here ya go Owl, a download away:
    >>
    >> http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx
    >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7NRq...eature=related
    >>

    > http://www.codeplex.com/vdm/Wiki/Vie...ringTitle=Home
    >>
    >> Source available. Download away. Remind you of anything?
    >>
    >> Not that I have ever really found much of a use of virtual desktops but
    >> regardless if you do, there they are.

    >
    > And utterly useless. Have you actually tried to use that stuff, "true linux
    > advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X
    > specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "defragger
    > professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven", "time
    > coordinator", "email sage" and "OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron
    > Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Richard, aka Damian O'Leary, aka Steve
    > Townsend, aka Ubuntu King?
    >
    > You will soon encounter that lots of apps place suddenly their Msg-Boxes on
    > the currently active desktop, software which runs to a point and then opens
    > a new dialogue does so on the currently active one and not the one the app
    > is running in and so on.
    > It is utterly confusing since you have to check which app demands your
    > attention now. Bull**** stuff
    >
    >> Enjoy!

    >
    > Nope. Not masochistic enough for garbage like that


    And where have I said anything about virtual desktops for windoze? I have
    no interest in the M$ crap. Again Quack making things up about what people
    *supposedly* said.

    --
    Most people are sheep. *
    Microsoft is very effective
    at fleecing the flockers.



  17. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:40:01 -0600, chrisv wrote:

    > Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >
    >> Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown and
    >> bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without the
    >> bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >>
    >> Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.

    >
    > You can tell by how he is constantly defending Micro$oft and
    > denigrating Linux and those who advocate it. 8)


    Naturally, as Quack said he's a long term windows user & programmer!

    --
    Most people are sheep. *
    Microsoft is very effective
    at fleecing the flockers.



  18. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    William Poaster writes:

    > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:40:01 -0600, chrisv wrote:
    >
    >> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown and
    >>> bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without the
    >>> bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >>>
    >>> Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.

    >>
    >> You can tell by how he is constantly defending Micro$oft and
    >> denigrating Linux and those who advocate it. 8)


    Where am I denigrating Linux? But, yes, I do defend MS against lies.

    >
    > Naturally, as Quack said he's a long term windows user & programmer!


    And a Linux adopter. And Debian advocate. Are you really so stupid?
    Oh. It's you Willy. You really are that stupid.

  19. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "Virtual Desktops" on Windows.

    On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:23:43 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

    > Tim Smith wrote:
    >
    >> In article ,
    >> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Hadron would have us use broken and fragile environments on an overblown
    >>> and bloated operating system to get features that we already get, without
    >>> the bugs and bloat, on GNU/Linux.
    >>>
    >>> Some Linux advocate /he/ is. Pfft.

    >>
    >> He advocates the use of Debian.

    >
    > Nope. He *claims* to advocate the use of Debian. That does not mean that he
    > uses linux at all


    Quack *claims* to use Linux, & advocate it. However all his advocacy has
    been for is M$, & Windows applications.
    In fact is was *so* noticeable in the Ubuntu group, he got to be known as
    a M$ fanboi by at least a dozen of the regular posters.

    >> You think Debian is broken and
    >> fragile?? Overblown and bloated??
    >>

    >
    > No. It is way behind current development, except if you use the
    > testing/unstable versions. And then it is worse than other distros. Add to
    > that the fact that they adhere to a rigorous "political" stance regarding
    > non-free software (and that includes subtleties in licence wording), and
    > you have a sure recipe for disaster when a dimwit like Hadron Quark comes
    > along


    --
    Most people are sheep. *
    Microsoft is very effective
    at fleecing the flockers.



  20. Re: Spanking "Owl" and laying other myths to rest : "VirtualDesktops" on Windows.

    On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:09:56 +0000, William Poaster wrote:

    > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:29:35 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
    >
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> Sigh.
    >>>
    >>> It appears posters like Owl can not use Google and merely parrot the
    >>> lies of William Poaster, Roy and Liarnut amongst others. In COLA there
    >>> are so many to choose from.
    >>>
    >>> So here ya go Owl, a download away:
    >>>
    >>> http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/
    >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/

    xppowertoys.mspx
    >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7NRq...eature=related
    >>>

    >> http://www.codeplex.com/vdm/Wiki/View.aspx?

    title=Screenshots&referringTitle=Home
    >>>
    >>> Source available. Download away. Remind you of anything?
    >>>
    >>> Not that I have ever really found much of a use of virtual desktops
    >>> but regardless if you do, there they are.

    >>
    >> And utterly useless. Have you actually tried to use that stuff, "true
    >> linux advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X
    >> specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "defragger
    >> professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven", "time
    >> coordinator", "email sage" and "OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron
    >> Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Richard, aka Damian O'Leary, aka Steve
    >> Townsend, aka Ubuntu King?
    >>
    >> You will soon encounter that lots of apps place suddenly their
    >> Msg-Boxes on the currently active desktop, software which runs to a
    >> point and then opens a new dialogue does so on the currently active one
    >> and not the one the app is running in and so on.
    >> It is utterly confusing since you have to check which app demands your
    >> attention now. Bull**** stuff
    >>
    >>> Enjoy!

    >>
    >> Nope. Not masochistic enough for garbage like that

    >
    > And where have I said anything about virtual desktops for windoze? I
    > have no interest in the M$ crap. Again Quack making things up about what
    > people *supposedly* said.


    I think you're reading the Hadron attributions there, he's the Windroid
    that made the claim. he is "mr zero credibility"

    You're a well known Linux user!



    --
    If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will
    indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or
    less by definition, *promote* ignorance.
    Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008

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