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  1. To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others


    Frankly your constant harping on about my "being unable to install etch"
    and having "stability issues with testing" is beginning to drag
    on. Since you clearly know NOTHING about what "Stable" means in etch and
    WHY testing is there and how experimental exists here is a start and
    then, maybe then, you will stop posting such complete nonsense.

    Here is a link to a fairly new initiative to bring newer drivers into
    Etch (stable).

    You can start there:

    http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf

    ,----
    | Etch and a half is the nickname for a project to add newer packages
    | (kernel, Xorg drivers and debian-installer) within the stable Debian
    | 'etch' release to increase its usefulness to users with hardware that
    | requires updated drivers.
    `----

    I realise it will tax your little brains and that you will realise you
    have made idiots of yourselves the past year or so but do TRY to learn
    before you talk more nonsense about Debian and newer HW.




  2. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    Hadron wrote:

    > Frankly [snip]
    >
    > I realise it will tax your little brains and that you will

    .........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    > realise you have made idiots of yourselves the past year or so

    .........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    > but do TRY to learn before you talk more nonsense about Debian
    > and newer HW.


    Subject: Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others
    ..............................................^^^^ ^^^^^

    Above and subject says it all.

    --
    HPT
    Quando omni flunkus moritati
    (If all else fails, play dead)
    - "Red" Green

  3. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Above and subject says it all.



    1) What operating system do you use at work?
    2) What nyms have you used to post to cola?




  4. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    High Plains Thumper writes:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Frankly [snip]
    >>
    >> I realise it will tax your little brains and that you will

    > ........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >> realise you have made idiots of yourselves the past year or so

    > ........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >> but do TRY to learn before you talk more nonsense about Debian
    >> and newer HW.

    >
    > Subject: Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others
    > .............................................^^^^^ ^^^^
    >
    > Above and subject says it all.


    I'm glad you agree.

    Now, did you FINALLY read and understand what Stable is and WHY
    EtchAndAHalf exists?

    Do you understand pinning and back ports yet? No? Well, there's a
    surprise.


  5. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:16:41 -0700, High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> Frankly [snip]
    >>
    >> I realise it will tax your little brains and that you will

    > ........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >> realise you have made idiots of yourselves the past year or so

    > ........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >> but do TRY to learn before you talk more nonsense about Debian
    >> and newer HW.

    >
    > Subject: Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others
    > .............................................^^^^^ ^^^^
    >
    > Above and subject says it all.



    The Quack troll doesn't like being shown up, does it.

    --
    Most people are sheep. *
    Microsoft is very effective
    at fleecing the flockers.



  6. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    William Poaster writes:

    > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:16:41 -0700, High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>> Frankly [snip]
    >>>
    >>> I realise it will tax your little brains and that you will

    >> ........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>> realise you have made idiots of yourselves the past year or so

    >> ........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>> but do TRY to learn before you talk more nonsense about Debian
    >>> and newer HW.

    >>
    >> Subject: Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others
    >> .............................................^^^^^ ^^^^
    >>
    >> Above and subject says it all.

    >
    >
    > The Quack troll doesn't like being shown up, does it.


    Except I wasn't Willy. You were. Again.

    But if you had one iota of sense you would read the link I provided (and
    High Plains Hypocrite snipped of course in true Porter style) and know
    that.

    As it is you will continue to make a fool of yourself posting nonsense
    about Debian. A subject you know nothing about.


  7. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    Hadron wrote:

    >
    > Frankly your constant harping on about my "being unable to install etch"
    > and having "stability issues with testing" is beginning to drag
    > on. Since you clearly know NOTHING about what "Stable" means in etch and
    > WHY testing is there and how experimental exists here is a start and
    > then, maybe then, you will stop posting such complete nonsense.



    Thats all a bit unclear.

    Are you claiming to be a misunderstood idiot or a saint?

    If I tossed you a banana will it calm your nerves?


  8. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    7 writes:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Frankly your constant harping on about my "being unable to install etch"
    >> and having "stability issues with testing" is beginning to drag
    >> on. Since you clearly know NOTHING about what "Stable" means in etch and
    >> WHY testing is there and how experimental exists here is a start and
    >> then, maybe then, you will stop posting such complete nonsense.

    >
    >
    > Thats all a bit unclear.
    >
    > Are you claiming to be a misunderstood idiot or a saint?
    >
    > If I tossed you a banana will it calm your nerves?


    Misunderstood? Err no. Purposely misrepresented by COLA idiots? Yes.

    Please read the link.

    Then feel free to comment and join in the correcting of William Poaster.


  9. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    After takin' a swig o' grog, Hadron belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > I realise it will tax your little brains and that you will realise you
    > have made idiots of yourselves the past year or so but do TRY to learn
    > before you talk more nonsense about Debian and newer HW.




    --
    You scratch my tape, and I'll scratch yours.

  10. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    Hadron wrote:

    > 7 writes:
    >
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Frankly your constant harping on about my "being unable to install etch"
    >>> and having "stability issues with testing" is beginning to drag
    >>> on. Since you clearly know NOTHING about what "Stable" means in etch and
    >>> WHY testing is there and how experimental exists here is a start and
    >>> then, maybe then, you will stop posting such complete nonsense.

    >>
    >>
    >> Thats all a bit unclear.
    >>
    >> Are you claiming to be a misunderstood idiot or a saint?
    >>
    >> If I tossed you a banana will it calm your nerves?

    >
    > Misunderstood? Err no.


    TROLL!!!!



  11. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    DFS wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >
    >> Above and subject says it all.

    >
    > 1) What operating system do you use at work?


    This is an example of phishing and has nothing to do with posting
    related to the charter of this newsgroup:

    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/

    [quote]
    1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy

    The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:

    For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other
    operating systems.

    That single sentence is the one and only charter of the
    newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy. The newsgroup's charter is for
    the newsgroup as a place for supporters of Linux to gather to
    discuss Linux, for the betterment of the Linux community and the
    promotion and development of Linux. It supports this as a place
    for those who would like to learn more about Linux to come to
    learn from those who know Linux. It does not call for it to be a
    place where the anti-Linux propagandists to gather in order to
    discredit Linux.
    [quote]

    > 2) What nyms have you used to post to cola?


    and

    7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics

    [6.] When your tactics are turned on you, call your opponents
    trolls. Do not accept the fact that by calling someone using
    your tactics a troll that makes you the real troll.
    --
    HPT
    Quando omni flunkus moritati
    (If all else fails, play dead)
    - "Red" Green

  12. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    Hadron wrote:
    > William Poaster writes:
    >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Frankly [snip]
    >>>>
    >>>> I realise it will tax your little brains and that you
    >>> .......................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>> will realise you have made idiots of yourselves the past
    >>> ........................... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>> year or so but do TRY to learn before you talk more
    >>>> nonsense about Debian and newer HW.
    >>>
    >>> Subject: Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and
    >>> .............................................^^^^^ ^^^^
    >>> others
    >>>
    >>> Above and subject says it all.

    >>
    >> The Quack troll doesn't like being shown up, does it.

    >
    > Except I wasn't Willy. You were. Again.
    >
    > But if you had one iota of sense you would read the link I

    .......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    > provided (and High Plains Hypocrite snipped of course in true

    .............................^^^^^^^^^
    > Porter style) and know that.
    >
    > As it is you will continue to make a fool of yourself posting

    .................................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
    > nonsense about Debian. A subject you know nothing about.

    ....................................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^

    Above and subject says it all.

    --
    HPT
    Quando omni flunkus moritati
    (If all else fails, play dead)
    - "Red" Green

  13. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    Hadron wrote:
    > 7 writes:
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>> Frankly your constant harping on about my "being unable to
    >>> install etch" and having "stability issues with testing"
    >>> is beginning to drag on. Since you clearly know NOTHING
    >>> about what "Stable" means in etch and WHY testing is there
    >>> and how experimental exists here is a start and then,
    >>> maybe then, you will stop posting such complete nonsense.


    http://groups.google.com/group/comp....6fff80adc9812c

    [quote]
    Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
    From: High Plains Thumper
    Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:18:21 -0600
    Subject: Re: [linux-equivalents] TuxGuitar

    TomB wrote:
    > Hadron wrote:
    >> TomB writes:
    >>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>> TomB writes:
    >>>>
    >>>>> If you play the guitar and are looking for a decent
    >>>>> replacement for Guitar Pro, TuxGuitar may be what
    >>>>> you're looking for.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It isn't quite there yet, but it looks very promising.
    >>>>
    >>>> Interesting. Looks nice. There is a tuxguitar in the
    >>>> debian repositories too. its vsersion says 1.01 yet the
    >>>> one at the site says 1.0. The one in the debian
    >>>> repository does not work:
    >>>>
    >>>> /usr/bin/tuxguitar: line 142:
    >>>> /usr/lib/java/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory
    >>>>
    >>>> And yes, i do have the Sun JRE installed.
    >>>
    >>> That's odd. I was just doing some work in TuxGuitar on my
    >>> own Debian box (using Lenny 32bit here). Works just fine.
    >>>
    >>> I just took a look at that line and it calls on the Jave
    >>> environment vars. Odd that it doesn't work for you...
    >>>
    >>> I also have Guitar Pro running in wine. Works like a charm
    >>> as well :-)

    >>
    >> Java in debian is f*cked up. I suspect the debian tuxguitar
    >> installer has broken something.


    Synaptic:

    Mark additional changes?

    v To be installed
    libtext-java
    libswt3.2-gtk-java
    libswt3.2-gtk-jni

    [X Cancel [V Mark]
    Tuxguitar installed and runs fine, no crashes, no error messages.
    Perhaps if our diminutive atomic sub particle had properly
    installed it per directions, it would have worked without error.

    But what would you expect?

    Debian Stable is one of the most widely used distros for mission
    critical applications and where one wants minimal impact to
    production work. Very few require bleeding edge software to be
    productive.

    Yet Hadron insists that Debian Stable is full of bugs and too
    backward for usage:

    Subject: Re: [News] Sister OS to Linux, OS-X Has Better TCO than
    Microsoft Windows
    Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:50:07 +0100
    Message-ID: fr08c1$9e...@registered.motzarella.org


    > Hadron has an apparent inability to recognise how more
    > consistent usage of Debian Stable will only help his usage of
    > the product, preferring unstable versions of Debian; if not
    > for the only reason as an opportunity to attack Linux/OSS.


    Once more for the hard of brain power : I use testing. Not
    unstable. And I use it for a reason - Debian Stable is simply too
    buggy and backward and I cant be arsed to manage pinning or
    selectively monitoring backports.

    >> Thats all a bit unclear.
    >>
    >> Are you claiming to be a misunderstood idiot or a saint?
    >>
    >> If I tossed you a banana will it calm your nerves?

    >
    > Misunderstood? Err no. Purposely misrepresented by
    > COLA idiots? Yes.

    ...^^^^^^^^^^^

    > Please read the link.
    >
    > Then feel free to comment and join in the
    > correcting of William Poaster.

    ...^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    These are examples of ad hominem attacks, attempts to degrade the
    poster and community of posters rather than participate in the
    discussion.

    --
    HPT
    Quando omni flunkus moritati
    (If all else fails, play dead)
    - "Red" Green

  14. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:21:39 -0700, High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >> William Poaster writes:
    >>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Frankly [snip]
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I realise it will tax your little brains and that you
    >>>> .......................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>>> will realise you have made idiots of yourselves the past
    >>>> ........................... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>>> year or so but do TRY to learn before you talk more nonsense about
    >>>>> Debian and newer HW.
    >>>>
    >>>> Subject: Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and
    >>>> .............................................^^^^^ ^^^^ others
    >>>>
    >>>> Above and subject says it all.
    >>>
    >>> The Quack troll doesn't like being shown up, does it.

    >>
    >> Except I wasn't Willy. You were. Again.
    >>
    >> But if you had one iota of sense you would read the link I

    > ......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >> provided (and High Plains Hypocrite snipped of course in true

    > ............................^^^^^^^^^
    >> Porter style) and know that.
    >>
    >> As it is you will continue to make a fool of yourself posting

    > ................................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
    >> nonsense about Debian. A subject you know nothing about.

    > ...................................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^
    >
    > Above and subject says it all.




    Except I've used Debian & Linux for much longer than Quack has. And of
    course in *true troll style*, Quack replies to someone who has had him
    binned for a long time.

    --
    Most people are sheep. *
    Microsoft is very effective
    at fleecing the flockers.



  15. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    William Poaster writes:

    > On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:21:39 -0700, High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>> William Poaster writes:
    >>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >>>>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Frankly [snip]
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I realise it will tax your little brains and that you
    >>>>> .......................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>>>> will realise you have made idiots of yourselves the past
    >>>>> ........................... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>>>> year or so but do TRY to learn before you talk more nonsense about
    >>>>>> Debian and newer HW.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Subject: Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and
    >>>>> .............................................^^^^^ ^^^^ others
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Above and subject says it all.
    >>>>
    >>>> The Quack troll doesn't like being shown up, does it.
    >>>
    >>> Except I wasn't Willy. You were. Again.
    >>>
    >>> But if you had one iota of sense you would read the link I

    >> ......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>> provided (and High Plains Hypocrite snipped of course in true

    >> ............................^^^^^^^^^
    >>> Porter style) and know that.
    >>>
    >>> As it is you will continue to make a fool of yourself posting

    >> ................................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
    >>> nonsense about Debian. A subject you know nothing about.

    >> ...................................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^
    >>
    >> Above and subject says it all.

    >
    >
    >
    > Except I've used Debian & Linux for much longer than Quack has. And of
    > course in *true troll style*, Quack replies to someone who has had him
    > binned for a long time.


    So you say. The point is why are you so clueless about how Debian works
    and releases if this is the case?

    The link you morons snipped explains to people *why* I did what I had to
    do to get modern HW working. before the existance of EtchAndAHalf one
    had to use backports and pinning.

    You of course told lies. No surprise there.

  16. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:32:01 -0700, High Plains Thumper wrote:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >> 7 writes:
    >>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Frankly your constant harping on about my "being unable to install
    >>>> etch" and having "stability issues with testing" is beginning to drag
    >>>> on. Since you clearly know NOTHING about what "Stable" means in etch
    >>>> and WHY testing is there and how experimental exists here is a start
    >>>> and then, maybe then, you will stop posting such complete nonsense.

    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/comp....6fff80adc9812c
    >
    > [quote]
    > Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
    > From: High Plains Thumper Date: Sun,
    > 03 Aug 2008 03:18:21 -0600 Subject: Re: [linux-equivalents] TuxGuitar
    >
    > TomB wrote:
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>> TomB writes:
    >>>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>>> TomB writes:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> If you play the guitar and are looking for a decent replacement for
    >>>>>> Guitar Pro, TuxGuitar may be what you're looking for.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It isn't quite there yet, but it looks very promising.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Interesting. Looks nice. There is a tuxguitar in the debian
    >>>>> repositories too. its vsersion says 1.01 yet the one at the site says
    >>>>> 1.0. The one in the debian repository does not work:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> /usr/bin/tuxguitar: line 142:
    >>>>> /usr/lib/java/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And yes, i do have the Sun JRE installed.
    >>>>
    >>>> That's odd. I was just doing some work in TuxGuitar on my own Debian
    >>>> box (using Lenny 32bit here). Works just fine.
    >>>>
    >>>> I just took a look at that line and it calls on the Jave environment
    >>>> vars. Odd that it doesn't work for you...
    >>>>
    >>>> I also have Guitar Pro running in wine. Works like a charm
    >>>> as well :-)
    >>>
    >>> Java in debian is f*cked up. I suspect the debian tuxguitar installer
    >>> has broken something.

    >
    > Synaptic:
    >
    >
    > Mark additional changes?
    >
    > v To be installed
    > libtext-java
    > libswt3.2-gtk-java
    > libswt3.2-gtk-jni
    >
    > [X Cancel [V Mark]
    >
    >
    > Tuxguitar installed and runs fine, no crashes, no error messages. Perhaps
    > if our diminutive atomic sub particle had properly installed it per
    > directions, it would have worked without error.
    >
    > But what would you expect?
    >
    > Debian Stable is one of the most widely used distros for mission critical
    > applications and where one wants minimal impact to production work. Very
    > few require bleeding edge software to be productive.
    >
    > Yet Hadron insists that Debian Stable is full of bugs and too backward for
    > usage:
    >
    > Subject: Re: [News] Sister OS to Linux, OS-X Has Better TCO than Microsoft
    > Windows
    > Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:50:07 +0100 Message-ID:
    > fr08c1$9e...@registered.motzarella.org
    >
    >

    >> Hadron has an apparent inability to recognise how more consistent usage
    >> of Debian Stable will only help his usage of the product, preferring
    >> unstable versions of Debian; if not for the only reason as an
    >> opportunity to attack Linux/OSS.

    >
    > Once more for the hard of brain power : I use testing. Not unstable. And I
    > use it for a reason - Debian Stable is simply too buggy and backward and I
    > cant be arsed to manage pinning or selectively monitoring backports.
    >
    >
    >>> Thats all a bit unclear.
    >>>
    >>> Are you claiming to be a misunderstood idiot or a saint?
    >>>
    >>> If I tossed you a banana will it calm your nerves?

    >>
    >> Misunderstood? Err no. Purposely misrepresented by COLA idiots? Yes.

    > ..^^^^^^^^^^^


    Quack is a self-admitted troll, ergo he has destroyed his *own*
    credibility. It hangs out with other well-know trolls, & now it whines
    it's being misrepresented?
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    >> Please read the link.
    >>
    >> Then feel free to comment and join in the correcting of William Poaster.

    > ..^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >
    > These are examples of ad hominem attacks, attempts to degrade the poster
    > and community of posters rather than participate in the discussion.


    It's what a troll does. And it's *well known* that all Quack does is
    "whine & complain", that his "attitude sucks", & he's an "arrogant prick"
    (quotes from dozens of regular posters in aolu).

    --
    Most people are sheep. *
    Microsoft is very effective
    at fleecing the flockers.



  17. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    William Poaster writes:

    > On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:32:01 -0700, High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>> 7 writes:
    >>>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Frankly your constant harping on about my "being unable to install
    >>>>> etch" and having "stability issues with testing" is beginning to drag
    >>>>> on. Since you clearly know NOTHING about what "Stable" means in etch
    >>>>> and WHY testing is there and how experimental exists here is a start
    >>>>> and then, maybe then, you will stop posting such complete nonsense.

    >>
    >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....6fff80adc9812c
    >>
    >> [quote]
    >> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
    >> From: High Plains Thumper Date: Sun,
    >> 03 Aug 2008 03:18:21 -0600 Subject: Re: [linux-equivalents] TuxGuitar
    >>
    >> TomB wrote:
    >>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>> TomB writes:
    >>>>> Hadron wrote:
    >>>>>> TomB writes:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> If you play the guitar and are looking for a decent replacement for
    >>>>>>> Guitar Pro, TuxGuitar may be what you're looking for.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> It isn't quite there yet, but it looks very promising.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Interesting. Looks nice. There is a tuxguitar in the debian
    >>>>>> repositories too. its vsersion says 1.01 yet the one at the site says
    >>>>>> 1.0. The one in the debian repository does not work:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> /usr/bin/tuxguitar: line 142:
    >>>>>> /usr/lib/java/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> And yes, i do have the Sun JRE installed.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> That's odd. I was just doing some work in TuxGuitar on my own Debian
    >>>>> box (using Lenny 32bit here). Works just fine.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I just took a look at that line and it calls on the Jave environment
    >>>>> vars. Odd that it doesn't work for you...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I also have Guitar Pro running in wine. Works like a charm
    >>>>> as well :-)
    >>>>
    >>>> Java in debian is f*cked up. I suspect the debian tuxguitar installer
    >>>> has broken something.

    >>
    >> Synaptic:
    >>
    >>
    >> Mark additional changes?
    >>
    >> v To be installed
    >> libtext-java
    >> libswt3.2-gtk-java
    >> libswt3.2-gtk-jni
    >>
    >> [X Cancel [V Mark]
    >>


    Sigh.

    More lies and misinformation from the two resident chimps Willy and High
    Plains Hypocrite.

    Here:

    http://tuxguitar.com.ar/forum_posts....id=79&view=NEW

    ,----
    | I get the following error if I run tuxguitar:
    |
    | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/swt/widgets/Layout
    |
    | Can anybody help me?
    |
    | Thanks in advance!
    `----

    ,----
    | # apt-get install libswt-java
    | Reading package lists... Done
    | Building dependency tree
    | Reading state information... Done
    | E: Couldn't find package libswt-java
    |
    | # apt-get install libswt3.2-gtk-java libswt3.2-gtk-jni
    | Reading package lists... Done
    | Building dependency tree
    | Reading state information... Done
    | Recommended packages:
    | libswt3.2-gtk-gcj
    | The following packages will be REMOVED:
    | libswt-gtk-3.2 libswt-gtk-3.2-jni tuxguitar
    |
    |
    | That's a real winner. Java is such quality software. No wonder Sun's
    | stock is doing so well.
    `----

    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-lenny-606338/

    So. That's you two totally owned once more.


    >>
    >> Tuxguitar installed and runs fine, no crashes, no error messages. Perhaps
    >> if our diminutive atomic sub particle had properly installed it per
    >> directions, it would have worked without error.
    >>
    >> But what would you expect?
    >>
    >> Debian Stable is one of the most widely used distros for mission critical
    >> applications and where one wants minimal impact to production work. Very
    >> few require bleeding edge software to be productive.


    Tuxguitar is not high on their QA list you simpleton....

    >>
    >> Yet Hadron insists that Debian Stable is full of bugs and too backward for
    >> usage:


    No I didnt. That is an out and out lie. I *SAID* that bog standard Debian
    stable does not work with lots of modern HW.


    And once MORE - I use Lenny. Get it yet? I doubt it.

  18. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    After takin' a swig o' grog, High Plains Thumper belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Frankly your constant harping on about my "being unable to
    >>>> install etch" and having "stability issues with testing"
    >>>> is beginning to drag on. Since you clearly know NOTHING
    >>>> about what "Stable" means in etch and WHY testing is there
    >>>> and how experimental exists here is a start and then,
    >>>> maybe then, you will stop posting such complete nonsense.

    >
    >
    >
    > Yet Hadron insists that Debian Stable is full of bugs and too
    > backward for usage:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Once more for the hard of brain power : I use testing. Not
    > unstable. And I use it for a reason - Debian Stable is simply too
    > buggy and backward and I cant be arsed to manage pinning or
    > selectively monitoring backports.
    >


    Hadron is an angry, self-important, and confabulating gas-bag.

    --
    A girl spent a couple hours on the phone talking to her two best
    friends, Maureen Jones, and Maureen Brown. When asked by her father why she
    had been on the phone so long, she responded "I heard a funny story today
    and I've been telling it to the Maureens."

  19. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    High Plains Thumper wrote:
    > DFS wrote:


    >> 1) What operating system do you use at work?

    >
    > This is an example of


    ....you running away like a chicken****.



    >> 2) What nyms have you used to post to cola?

    >
    > and


    ....this is another example of you running away like a chicken****.

    If you use Windows\Vista at work, and you troll-nymshift on cola, why
    exactly do
    you think you belong here trespasser?





  20. Re: To William Poaster, High Plains Hypocrite and others

    DFS wrote:
    > High Plains Thumper wrote:
    >> DFS wrote:
    >>
    >>> 1) What operating system do you use at work?

    >>
    >> This is an example of phishing and has nothing to do with
    >> posting related to the charter of this newsgroup:
    >>
    >> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
    >>
    >> [quote] 1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy
    >>
    >> The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:
    >>
    >> For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other
    >> operating systems.
    >>
    >> That single sentence is the one and only charter of the
    >> newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy. The newsgroup's charter is
    >> for the newsgroup as a place for supporters of Linux to
    >> gather to discuss Linux, for the betterment of the Linux
    >> community and the promotion and development of Linux. It
    >> supports this as a place for those who would like to learn
    >> more about Linux to come to learn from those who know Linux.
    >> It does not call for it to be a place where the anti-Linux
    >> propagandists to gather in order to discredit Linux. [quote]

    >
    > ...you running away like a chicken****.
    >
    >>> 2) What nyms have you used to post to cola?

    >>
    >> and
    7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics
    >>
    >> [6.] When your tactics are turned on you, call your
    >> opponents trolls. Do not accept the fact that by calling
    >> someone using your tactics a troll that makes you the real
    >> troll.

    >
    > ...this is another example of you running away like a
    > chicken****.
    >
    > If you use Windows\Vista at work, and you troll-nymshift on
    > cola, why exactly do you think you belong here trespasser?


    This is rather pathetic excuse for a Wintroll, calling an Linux
    advocate a trespasser in a Linux advocacy group, when the only
    requirement per charter is "for discussions of the benefits of
    Linux compared to other operating systems".

    Per:

    http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy

    Ad hominem troll

    Ad hominem troll at its simplest, will attack people personally,
    rather than the merits of their statements or methodologies.

    The ad hominem troll often has already lost a rational argument
    about a topic, and thus its goal is to change the argument from
    being about a topic, to being about the people opposed to the
    troll (which could mean any/all rational person(s) in the
    discussion), in the hopes of both discrediting people's ideas
    indirectly by discrediting the people, and engendering an
    emotional reaction from the people by attacking their egos /
    self-image. The "getting a reaction out of" goal is common to
    most troll types.
    Give it up DFS, you have already lost it.

    --
    HPT
    Quando omni flunkus moritati
    (If all else fails, play dead)
    - "Red" Green

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