How to compromise other peoples machines.

Hire this guy!

,----
| [url]http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2736d7902b331d3d[/url]
|
| =========
| From: *snip*
| Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
| Message-ID: <slrna3l0au.jgr.tjporter@*snip*>
|
| Ok ok I've added the odd program for her, all from my PC via telnet
| , but she doesnt know I'm doing it and just keeps right on using
| her PC.
| =========
|
| From: *snip*
| Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
| Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*>
|
| I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
| that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their own.
| =========
`----

I realised from post #1 that this guy is a legend in his own lunchtime
but this guy really used telnet to administer people's home machines? My
god. There is generally more private info on the home machines than work
machines. Incompetence at its very worst.

I HOPE the above quotes are not true. If they are, then one really
should not listen to anything this man says. A self declared network
genius and iptables master who goes on to use Telnet , TELNET!!!!, to
access peoples machines **** without their knowledge **** I wonder what
else he poked around in without the owners consent or knowledge?

Someone tell me this is not true. Surely not even this "Wintroll
Fighter" would use Telnet to administer someones machine across the
'net?

On Nov 9, 11:06*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
> | =========
> |
> | From: *snip*
> | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
> | Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*>
> |
> | I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
> | that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their own.
> | =========
> `----[/color]

I've installed Linux for a few friends and family who want it for FREE
with FREE support for LIFE. Some friend Terry is. Does he charge his
friends when he helps them hang drywall or install a new sink? And
they call me a troll...

cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> writes:
[color=blue]
> On Nov 9, 11:06Â*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> | =========
>> |
>> | From: *snip*
>> | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> | Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*>
>> |
>> | I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
>> | that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their own.
>> | =========
>> `----[/color]
>
> I've installed Linux for a few friends and family who want it for FREE
> with FREE support for LIFE. Some friend Terry is. Does he charge his
> friends when he helps them hang drywall or install a new sink? And
> they call me a troll...[/color]

It seems abundantly clear to me that Mr Porter is only interested in
Linux because its *free* and therefore he can maximise his income by
fleecing unsuspecting relatives and friends. 100 dollars to install
Linux?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! AND have him poking around behind your back using
TELNET?!?!?!?!??!

I am truly flabbergasted. I thought Liarnut telling people to use the
nvidia installer on Debian was bad enough but this truly takes the
biscuit.

It would appear Terry's cluelessness knows no bounds.

After takin' a swig o' grog, cc belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
[color=blue]
> On Nov 9, 11:06*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> | =========
>> |
>> | From: *snip*
>> | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> | Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*>
>> |
>> | I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
>> | that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their own.
>> | =========
>> `----[/color]
>
> I've installed Linux for a few friends and family who want it for FREE
> with FREE support for LIFE. Some friend Terry is. Does he charge his
> friends when he helps them hang drywall or install a new sink? And
> they call me a troll...[/color]

Notice how Hadron snipped the message IDs, so we can't find out how
/long ago/ Terry made that (telnet) mistake?

As for charging his friends, well, why don't they balk at that? Must think
it is well worth it.

cc, make sure you wipe the Hadron off your shoes.

--
"...and the fully armed nuclear warheads, are, of course, merely a
courtesy detail."

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
[color=blue]
> After takin' a swig o' grog, cc belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>[color=green]
>> On Nov 9, 11:06Â*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> | =========
>>> |
>>> | From: *snip*
>>> | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>> | Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*>
>>> |
>>> | I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
>>> | that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their
>>> | own. =========
>>> `----[/color]
>>
>> I've installed Linux for a few friends and family who want it for FREE
>> with FREE support for LIFE. Some friend Terry is. Does he charge his
>> friends when he helps them hang drywall or install a new sink? And
>> they call me a troll...[/color]
>
> Notice how Hadron snipped the message IDs, so we can't find out how
> /long ago/ Terry made that (telnet) mistake?[/color]

It was *years* ago. And it wasn't a mistake, either
Telnet is pretty safe inside a network. Just don't use it over the internet.
Apart from the fact that certain net appliances simply don't provide a SSH
interface. Hadron in his utter dishonesty (and incompetence) ignores such
small "distractions" from his idiotic trolling
[color=blue]
> As for charging his friends, well, why don't they balk at that? Must
> think it is well worth it.[/color]

It is perfectly reasonable to charge friends. It all depends on time needed,
distance traveled and other small thingies Hadron Quark decided to not
mention. As, for example, the handholding provided
[color=blue]
> cc, make sure you wipe the Hadron off your shoes.
>[/color]

Impossible. The stench permeates everything
--
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the
bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:03:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
[color=blue]
> cc, make sure you wipe the Hadron off your shoes.[/color]

Off his chin, you mean. =)
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Regards,
[tv]
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC

....Beware Romulans baring GIFs.

Tattoo Vampire wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:03:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>[color=green]
>> cc, make sure you wipe the Hadron off your shoes.[/color]
>
> Off his chin, you mean. =)[/color]


TV: 50 years old going on 12.

"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> schreef in bericht
news:3XHRk.63667$Ep1.30682@bignews2.bellsouth.net...[color=blue]
> Tattoo Vampire wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:03:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> cc, make sure you wipe the Hadron off your shoes.[/color]
>>
>> Off his chin, you mean. =)[/color]
>
>
> TV: 50 years old going on 12.
>[/color]

What's the matter here?
I bet his Linux migration failed?
ERA brokers are not selling enough houses and are going to kick his ass?
Midlife crisis?
Oops! His site is ****ed!
[url]http://www.donz-era.com/[/url]
Oh, looky, looky!
His "reputation" on alt.invest.real-estate, bad boy, bad boy!
[url]http://groups.google.com/group/alt.invest.real-estate/browse_thread/thread/dcb7063c04c12cd4[/url]
Making things worse: "How old are you? 12? You and your butt buddies can
go screw yourselves."
<aside>
Glad to see he followed my earlier advice, cos now we have a Don with a big
smile on his face (from under the wig) ;-)
[url]http://www.era-advantagerealty.com/getagent/list.php?&oid=021400000[/url]

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:35:38 -0800, cc wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Nov 9, 11:06Â*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> | =========
>> |
>> | From: *snip*
>> | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> | Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*> |
>> | I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
>> | that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their
>> own. | =========
>> `----[/color]
>
> I've installed Linux for a few friends and family who want it for FREE
> with FREE support for LIFE.[/color]

Sounds like they're getting every pennys worth too!
[color=blue]
> Some friend Terry is.[/color]

I'm no Wintroll friend, that's a certainty.
[color=blue]
> Does he charge his
> friends when he helps them hang drywall[/color]

I live in Australia, the second driest continent on earth, all our walls
are dry, so that's not a problem ;-)
[color=blue]
> or install a new sink?[/color]

No I don't charge them for that, I tell them to get a plumber or do it
themselves.
[color=blue]
> And they
> call me a troll...[/color]

The name fits you perfectly, a bit tight over the stomach perhaps, but
that's because of your big hairy Troll belly, an occupational hazard.





--
Linux full time, on the desktop, since August 1997

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:40:55 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
[color=blue]
> What's the matter here?[/color]

What matters is apparently you have no life, since you spend your time
slobbering over mine.

Loser.

--
Regards,
[tv]
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC

....Yea, I'm a pacifist. Wanna make somethin' of it, bub?

On Nov 9, 2:03*pm, Chris Ahlstrom <lino...@bollsouth.nut> wrote:[color=blue]
> After takin' a swig o' grog, cc belched out
> * this bit o' wisdom:
>
>
>
>
>[color=green]
> > On Nov 9, 11:06*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> | =========
> >> |
> >> | From: *snip*
> >> | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> | Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*>
> >> |
> >> | I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
> >> | that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their own.
> >> | =========
> >> `----[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> > I've installed Linux for a few friends and family who want it for FREE
> > with FREE support for LIFE. Some friend Terry is. Does he charge his
> > friends when he helps them hang drywall or install a new sink? And
> > they call me a troll...[/color]
>
> Notice how Hadron snipped the message IDs, so we can't find out how
> /long ago/ Terry made that (telnet) mistake?[/color]

I don't particularly know or care, which is why I snipped it out.

[color=blue]
> As for charging his friends, well, why don't they balk at that? *Must think
> it is well worth it.[/color]

I wasn't commenting on the worth, just on the friendship.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:03:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
[color=blue]
> After takin' a swig o' grog, cc belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>[color=green]
>> On Nov 9, 11:06Â*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> | =========
>>> |
>>> | From: *snip*
>>> | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>> | Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*> |
>>> | I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
>>> | that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their
>>> own. | =========
>>> `----[/color]
>>
>> I've installed Linux for a few friends and family who want it for FREE
>> with FREE support for LIFE. Some friend Terry is. Does he charge his
>> friends when he helps them hang drywall or install a new sink? And they
>> call me a troll...[/color]
>
> Notice how Hadron snipped the message IDs, so we can't find out how
> /long ago/ Terry made that (telnet) mistake?[/color]

It's not a mistake Chris, lets put this bs to bed once and for all ?

I always used Telnet internally before SSH was common. Telnet is still
the *only* way to talk to certain hardware.

Telnet is far from obsolete in the embedded field where resources are at
a premium.

Have a look at this *modern* product:
[url]http://www.olimex.com/dev/pic-mini-web.html[/url]

Its a web server that fits in a matchbox, I have two of them sitting on
my desk right now. Have a look at the specs below, look for the ** TELNET
** word :)

PIC-MINI-WEB is with dimensions only 55 x 36 mm, but don't let this to
fool you. This board is very powerful and will allow you to connect
almost everything to Internet. The board have PIC18F25J10 microcontroller
with 32KB of program Flash memory, 1024 RAM memory and allow Microchip
free TCP-IP stack to be programmed. In addition on board flash of 1 Mbit
(128KB) is available as data storage for web pages etc info. The LAN
connector could be connected to 10 Mbit Etherent switch or hub. There is
also IDC14 connector with 10 GPIOs available for future extension and
power supply and reset signals. What you can do with this board? You name
it: you can setup web server with dynamic web pages which allow you to
read PIC resources or to drive them through web interface, i.e. to read
ADC and display it on the web or to toggle GPIO outputs from the web,
very conveninet way to make home automation for instance and to monitor
and control your home from anywhere with Internet. Another service this
board can run is FTP server, or you can control the PIC by ** TELNET **,
or you can send and receive e-mails and trigger hardware events with
them. All this is possible due to the free firmware which Microchip
provide, and the best of all it have no upfront charges for software nor
royalies.


The mantra "Telnet must never be used, it's unsafe" is for morons who
don't know any better.

Like a gun, if you don't know how to use it safely, you'll probably blow
your foot off sooner or later.
[color=blue]
>
> As for charging his friends, well, why don't they balk at that? Must
> think it is well worth it.[/color]

It was always a sign to me that they really wanted Linux, my time is too
valuable to waste and although my Free software is Free, my time is not.

The Second last Linux box I did was a dual core AMD in a beautiful and
silent shiny black Antec case. It's been running for about 1.5 years. I
built the machine and installed Gentoo. The user is ex windows.

His machine is still running perfectly.

The last machine I did was over the road from where I live, for a kid who
wanted Linux.
His older XP machine had died, and was spewing all kinds of Windows
cryptic errors.

I do Linux boxes for poor kids for free, but they have to do the work, I
just supervise.
[color=blue]
>
> cc, make sure you wipe the Hadron off your shoes.[/color]

Hahahaha!





--
Linux full time, on the desktop, since August 1997

On Nov 9, 4:44*pm, Terry Porter <linu...@netspace.net.au> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:35:38 -0800, cc wrote:[color=green]
> > On Nov 9, 11:06*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> | =========
> >> |
> >> | From: *snip*
> >> | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> | Message-ID: <slrna1qed6.19a.tjporter@*snip*> |
> >> | I charge friends $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after
> >> | that I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their
> >> own. | =========
> >> `----[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> > I've installed Linux for a few friends and family who want it for FREE
> > with FREE support for LIFE.[/color]
>
> Sounds like they're getting every pennys worth too![/color]

Well, I could have charged them $100 to install and admin it for only
a few months, and they would have gladly paid, but then of course I'd
be a dick.

[color=blue][color=green]
> > Some friend Terry is.[/color]
>
> I'm no Wintroll friend, that's a certainty.[/color]

So you charged your friends to install Linux or Wintrolls, or are you
just responding with anything, even if it doesn't make sense, as long
as it contains the word "wintroll"?

[color=blue][color=green]
> > Does he charge his
> > friends when he helps them hang drywall[/color]
>
> I live in Australia, the second driest continent on earth, all our walls
> are dry, so that's not a problem ;-)
>[color=green]
> > or install a new sink?[/color]
>
> No I don't charge them for that, I tell them to get a plumber or do it
> themselves.[/color]

You sound like a real help to your friends, and a joy to be around.
There is just no way they are cursing you behind your back. None.


[color=blue][color=green]
> > And they
> > call me a troll...[/color]
>
> The name fits you perfectly, a bit tight over the stomach perhaps, but
> that's because of your big hairy Troll belly, an occupational hazard.
>[/color]

Please don't ever use the phrase "big hairy Troll belly" again. It's
incredibly creepy.

On 2008-11-09, Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:03:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>[color=green]
>> cc, make sure you wipe the Hadron off your shoes.[/color]
>
> Off his chin, you mean. =)[/color]

You are disgusting!

--
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:02:55 -0800 (PST), cc wrote:
[color=blue]
> Ahh***SLAP***[/color]

Shoo.
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[tv]
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC

....You are now entering a School Free Drug Zone.

On 9 Nov 2008 22:29:05 GMT, Gregory Shearman wrote:
[color=blue]
> You are disgusting![/color]

Yeah. So?
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Regards,
[tv]
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC

....PMS - Periodic Monster Syndrome

After takin' a swig o' grog, Peter Köhlmann belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
[color=blue]
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> On Nov 9, 11:06*am, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> |
>>>> | From: *snip*
>>>[/color]
>> Notice how Hadron snipped the message IDs, so we can't find out how
>> /long ago/ Terry made that (telnet) mistake?[/color]
>
> It was *years* ago. And it wasn't a mistake, either
> Telnet is pretty safe inside a network. Just don't use it over the internet.
> Apart from the fact that certain net appliances simply don't provide a SSH
> interface. Hadron in his utter dishonesty (and incompetence) ignores such
> small "distractions" from his idiotic trolling[/color]

I kind of figured that. I sort-of-remembered the telnet discussion,
but not the details.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> As for charging his friends, well, why don't they balk at that? Must
>> think it is well worth it.[/color]
>
> It is perfectly reasonable to charge friends. It all depends on time needed,
> distance traveled and other small thingies Hadron Quark decided to not
> mention. As, for example, the handholding provided
>[color=green]
>> cc, make sure you wipe the Hadron off your shoes.[/color]
>
> Impossible. The stench permeates everything[/color]

Ever step in dog-doo and not notice it until you're driving? Woo.

--
Often statistics are used as a drunken man uses lampposts -- for support
rather than illumination.

After takin' a swig o' grog, Clogwog belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
[color=blue]
> His "reputation" on alt.invest.real-estate, bad boy, bad boy!
> [url]http://groups.google.com/group/alt.invest.real-estate/browse_thread/thread/dcb7063c04c12cd4[/url][/color]

Oh lookie, some jerk posts an anonymous message in four or five real-estate
newsgroups to show "Don Ziegler" in a bad lightk, making sure to attached
the businessname to the post.

Say it ain't so, Clogwog. Why did you post that?
[color=blue]
> Making things worse: "How old are you? 12? You and your butt buddies can
> go screw yourselves."[/color]

Poor Clogster. Gets no satisfaction for his efforts. Bummer.

--
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:06:58 -0800, cc wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Well, I could have charged them $100 to install and admin it for only a
> few months, and they would have gladly paid, but then of course I'd be a
> dick.[/color]

You *are* a dick, and if you charged people to install Linux, I think
from what I've seen of your Linux skillset, they would have paid you dick.
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> The name fits you perfectly, a bit tight over the stomach perhaps, but
>> that's because of your big hairy Troll belly, an occupational hazard.
>>
>>[/color]
> Please don't ever use the phrase "big hairy Troll belly" again. It's
> incredibly creepy.[/color]

Only if you promise to leave Usenet forever, and work tirelessly in the
Mines of Moria to atone for crap you spew here.





--
Linux full time, on the desktop, since August 1997

On 2008-11-09, Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> wrote:[color=blue]
> On 9 Nov 2008 22:29:05 GMT, Gregory Shearman wrote:
>[color=green]
>> You are disgusting![/color]
>
> Yeah. So?[/color]

So you know your mind's in the gutter, good.

--
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power