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> Does anyone remember when Microsoft, by using every dirty trick in the
> book once had around 80% of the browser market ?
>
> MSIE now down to a rather lowly 19.3 %!

I see 12%. :-)

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Terry Porter wrote:
> Dear Wintrolls, I'm dreadfully sorry my automatically generated webserver
> stats aren't the way you'd like to see them, i.e. Windows 100.00%.
> You can try and explain them away any way you like, but they are REAL,
> from a real webserver connected to the Internet.
>
> From my POV, Windows still has 71.6 % of the OS market, so Wintrolls,
> enjoy it while it lasts.
>
>
> OS Versions Hits Percent
> Windows 5919 71.6 %
> Windows XP 4213 51 %
> Windows Vista 1442 17.4 %
> Windows CE 29 0.3 %
> Windows 98 1 0 %
> Windows 2003 68 0.8 %
> Windows 2000 166 2 %
> Linux 1833 22.1 %
> Ubuntu 928 11.2 %
> Fedora 66 0.7 %
> Debian 78 0.9 %
> GNU Linux (Unknown or unspecified distribution) 761 9.2 %
> Macintosh 283 3.4 %
> Mac OS X 283 3.4 %
> Others 225 2.7 %
> Unknown 225 2.7 %
>
>
> Does anyone remember when Microsoft, by using every dirty trick in the
> book once had around 80% of the browser market ?
>
> MSIE now down to a rather lowly 19.3 %!
>
>
> If you can't lie, cajole, intimidate and bribe your way to the top, how
> lacklustre, unsafe and innovation devoid must your browser be ?
>
> Browsers
> Versions Grabber Hits Percent
> MSIE 1602 19.3 %
> Msie 8.0 No 15 0.1 %
> Msie 7.0 No 1133 13.7 %
> Msie 6.0 No 454 5.4 %
> FIREFOX 5114 61.9 %
> Firefox 3.1 No 9 0.1 %
> Firefox 3.0.3 No 3919 47.4 %
> Firefox 3.0.2 No 34 0.4 %
> Firefox 3.0.1 No 171 2 %
> Firefox 3.0 No 102 1.2 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.9 No 33 0.3 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.3 No 33 0.3 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.17 No 537 6.5 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.14 No 66 0.7 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.11 No 66 0.7 %
> Firefox 2.0.0 No 35 0.4 %
> Firefox 1.5.0.7 No 109 1.3 %
> Others 1544 18.6 %
> Safari No 642 7.7 %
> Opera No 544 6.5 %
> Konqueror No 268 3.2 %
> Mozilla No 72 0.8 %
> Unknown ? 13 0.1 %
> LibWWW No 4 0 %
> Lynx No 1 0 %
>
>
>

What type of website are you running from this server? Some market areas
are going to be more Linux biased than others. For example, a site with
Linux howtos, etc.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:44:40 +0000, Ben wrote:

> Terry Porter wrote:
>> Dear Wintrolls, I'm dreadfully sorry my automatically generated
>> webserver stats aren't the way you'd like to see them, i.e. Windows
>> 100.00%.
>> You can try and explain them away any way you like, but they are REAL,
>> from a real webserver connected to the Internet.
>>
>> From my POV, Windows still has 71.6 % of the OS market, so Wintrolls,
>> enjoy it while it lasts.
>>
>>
>> OS Versions Hits Percent
>> Windows 5919 71.6 %
>> Windows XP 4213 51 %
>> Windows Vista 1442 17.4 %
>> Windows CE 29 0.3 %
>> Windows 98 1 0 %
>> Windows 2003 68 0.8 %
>> Windows 2000 166 2 %
>> Linux 1833 22.1 %
>> Ubuntu 928 11.2 %
>> Fedora 66 0.7 %
>> Debian 78 0.9 %
>> GNU Linux (Unknown or unspecified distribution) 761 9.2 %
>> Macintosh 283 3.4 %
>> Mac OS X 283 3.4 %
>> Others 225 2.7 %
>> Unknown 225 2.7 %
>>
>>
>> Does anyone remember when Microsoft, by using every dirty trick in the
>> book once had around 80% of the browser market ?
>>
>> MSIE now down to a rather lowly 19.3 %!
>>
>>
>> If you can't lie, cajole, intimidate and bribe your way to the top, how
>> lacklustre, unsafe and innovation devoid must your browser be ?
>>
>> Browsers
>> Versions Grabber Hits Percent
>> MSIE 1602 19.3 %
>> Msie 8.0 No 15 0.1 %
>> Msie 7.0 No 1133 13.7 %
>> Msie 6.0 No 454 5.4 %
>> FIREFOX 5114 61.9 %
>> Firefox 3.1 No 9 0.1 %
>> Firefox 3.0.3 No 3919 47.4 %
>> Firefox 3.0.2 No 34 0.4 %
>> Firefox 3.0.1 No 171 2 %
>> Firefox 3.0 No 102 1.2 %
>> Firefox 2.0.0.9 No 33 0.3 %
>> Firefox 2.0.0.3 No 33 0.3 %
>> Firefox 2.0.0.17 No 537 6.5 %
>> Firefox 2.0.0.14 No 66 0.7 %
>> Firefox 2.0.0.11 No 66 0.7 %
>> Firefox 2.0.0 No 35 0.4 %
>> Firefox 1.5.0.7 No 109 1.3 %
>> Others 1544 18.6 %
>> Safari No 642 7.7 %
>> Opera No 544 6.5 %
>> Konqueror No 268 3.2 %
>> Mozilla No 72 0.8 %
>> Unknown ? 13 0.1 %
>> LibWWW No 4 0 %
>> Lynx No 1 0 %
>>
>>
>>
>>
> What type of website are you running from this server? Some market areas
> are going to be more Linux biased than others. For example, a site with
> Linux howtos, etc.

Most of the hits are from my wiki, which has no Windows content at all.
It's mostly Linux and some tech stuff.

But before the Wintrolls throw a party, 71% of the people looking at my
(mainly) Linux wiki, are *Windows* users.

I'd rather have 100% Windows users reading my wiki, they might see
something about Linux that they find interesting, but I'll settle for a
71%.


Terry









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Terry Porter writes:

> Dear Wintrolls, I'm dreadfully sorry my automatically generated webserver
> stats aren't the way you'd like to see them, i.e. Windows 100.00%.
> You can try and explain them away any way you like, but they are REAL,
> from a real webserver connected to the Internet.

And these count? Wow! Normally morons like you say that web hits dont
count! More contradictions from Terry Porter. Do you never tire of
making a fool of yourself?


Of course you run a Linux centric web ... Even 7 could make a conclusion
from that.....

Why do you do this to yourself?

Terry Porter writes:

> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:44:40 +0000, Ben wrote:
>
>> Terry Porter wrote:
>>> Dear Wintrolls, I'm dreadfully sorry my automatically generated
>>> webserver stats aren't the way you'd like to see them, i.e. Windows
>>> 100.00%.
>>> You can try and explain them away any way you like, but they are REAL,
>>> from a real webserver connected to the Internet.
>>>
>>> From my POV, Windows still has 71.6 % of the OS market, so Wintrolls,
>>> enjoy it while it lasts.
>>>
>>>
>>> OS Versions Hits Percent
>>> Windows 5919 71.6 %
>>> Windows XP 4213 51 %
>>> Windows Vista 1442 17.4 %
>>> Windows CE 29 0.3 %
>>> Windows 98 1 0 %
>>> Windows 2003 68 0.8 %
>>> Windows 2000 166 2 %
>>> Linux 1833 22.1 %
>>> Ubuntu 928 11.2 %
>>> Fedora 66 0.7 %
>>> Debian 78 0.9 %
>>> GNU Linux (Unknown or unspecified distribution) 761 9.2 %
>>> Macintosh 283 3.4 %
>>> Mac OS X 283 3.4 %
>>> Others 225 2.7 %
>>> Unknown 225 2.7 %
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone remember when Microsoft, by using every dirty trick in the
>>> book once had around 80% of the browser market ?
>>>
>>> MSIE now down to a rather lowly 19.3 %!
>>>
>>>
>>> If you can't lie, cajole, intimidate and bribe your way to the top, how
>>> lacklustre, unsafe and innovation devoid must your browser be ?
>>>
>>> Browsers
>>> Versions Grabber Hits Percent
>>> MSIE 1602 19.3 %
>>> Msie 8.0 No 15 0.1 %
>>> Msie 7.0 No 1133 13.7 %
>>> Msie 6.0 No 454 5.4 %
>>> FIREFOX 5114 61.9 %
>>> Firefox 3.1 No 9 0.1 %
>>> Firefox 3.0.3 No 3919 47.4 %
>>> Firefox 3.0.2 No 34 0.4 %
>>> Firefox 3.0.1 No 171 2 %
>>> Firefox 3.0 No 102 1.2 %
>>> Firefox 2.0.0.9 No 33 0.3 %
>>> Firefox 2.0.0.3 No 33 0.3 %
>>> Firefox 2.0.0.17 No 537 6.5 %
>>> Firefox 2.0.0.14 No 66 0.7 %
>>> Firefox 2.0.0.11 No 66 0.7 %
>>> Firefox 2.0.0 No 35 0.4 %
>>> Firefox 1.5.0.7 No 109 1.3 %
>>> Others 1544 18.6 %
>>> Safari No 642 7.7 %
>>> Opera No 544 6.5 %
>>> Konqueror No 268 3.2 %
>>> Mozilla No 72 0.8 %
>>> Unknown ? 13 0.1 %
>>> LibWWW No 4 0 %
>>> Lynx No 1 0 %
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> What type of website are you running from this server? Some market areas
>> are going to be more Linux biased than others. For example, a site with
>> Linux howtos, etc.
>
> Most of the hits are from my wiki, which has no Windows content at all.
> It's mostly Linux and some tech stuff.


*guffaw*

You really have taken over from High Plains Hypocrite as the most
ridiculous poster in COLA.

"Terry Porter" schreef in bericht
news:i5adnSSQzcjW7IvUnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@netspace.net .au...
> Dear Wintrolls

Contradictio in terminis!
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****witted c*nt Terry Porter: "not the sharpest knife in the drawer"

Terry Porter wrote:

>Does anyone remember when Microsoft, by using every dirty
>trick in the book once had around 80% of the browser market ?
>
>MSIE now down to a rather lowly 19.3 %!

I don't see any Google Chrome / SRWare Iron browsers.
Are you able to identify them if they are used?

(SRWare Iron is compiled from the Google Chrome source, but is
modified so that it does not create unique user IDs, does not
send URLs to Google, does not tell Google when it is installed,
and doesn't use an ancient version of Apple's WebKit Engine..
See [ http://www.srware.net/en/ ] for details)

--
Guy Macon

Guy Macon writes:

> Terry Porter wrote:
>
>>Does anyone remember when Microsoft, by using every dirty
>>trick in the book once had around 80% of the browser market ?
>>
>>MSIE now down to a rather lowly 19.3 %!
>
> I don't see any Google Chrome / SRWare Iron browsers.
> Are you able to identify them if they are used?
>
> (SRWare Iron is compiled from the Google Chrome source, but is
> modified so that it does not create unique user IDs, does not
> send URLs to Google, does not tell Google when it is installed,
> and doesn't use an ancient version of Apple's WebKit Engine..
> See [ http://www.srware.net/en/ ] for details)

Terry would not recognise a telnet attack if it slapped him in the face
never mind report correct statistics.

Some things you should be aware of:

Terry's site is dedicated to Linux so a higher % of Linux is
inevitable. He, for some reason, doesn't see the significance of that.

People not using IE is not much of an issue since many Windows use
Opera, Firefox etc etc. It is not, as Terry suggests, an indication of
dwindling Windows usage.

Terry is a proven fabricator and story teller.

He tried telling use that FWBuilder does not exist for
Windows. No. Really. Look here:

http://www.fwbuilder.org/netcitadel/index.html

Amazing isn't it. The bottom line is this - Terry is a hard core MS
hater and can not be trusted to report anything dispassionately and
accurately. He gives a bad impression of real Linux users and advocates.

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____/ Terry Porter on Sunday 09 November 2008 05:12 : \____

> Dear Wintrolls, I'm dreadfully sorry my automatically generated webserver
> stats aren't the way you'd like to see them, i.e. Windows 100.00%.
> You can try and explain them away any way you like, but they are REAL,
> from a real webserver connected to the Internet.
>
> From my POV, Windows still has 71.6 % of the OS market, so Wintrolls,
> enjoy it while it lasts.
>
>
> OS Versions Hits Percent
> Windows 5919 71.6 %
> Windows XP 4213 51 %
> Windows Vista 1442 17.4 %
> Windows CE 29 0.3 %
> Windows 98 1 0 %
> Windows 2003 68 0.8 %
> Windows 2000 166 2 %
> Linux 1833 22.1 %
> Ubuntu 928 11.2 %
> Fedora 66 0.7 %
> Debian 78 0.9 %
> GNU Linux (Unknown or unspecified distribution) 761 9.2 %
> Macintosh 283 3.4 %
> Mac OS X 283 3.4 %
> Others 225 2.7 %
> Unknown 225 2.7 %
>
>
> Does anyone remember when Microsoft, by using every dirty trick in the
> book once had around 80% of the browser market ?
>
> MSIE now down to a rather lowly 19.3 %!
>
>
> If you can't lie, cajole, intimidate and bribe your way to the top, how
> lacklustre, unsafe and innovation devoid must your browser be ?
>
> Browsers
> Versions Grabber Hits Percent
> MSIE 1602 19.3 %
> Msie 8.0 No 15 0.1 %
> Msie 7.0 No 1133 13.7 %
> Msie 6.0 No 454 5.4 %
> FIREFOX 5114 61.9 %
> Firefox 3.1 No 9 0.1 %
> Firefox 3.0.3 No 3919 47.4 %
> Firefox 3.0.2 No 34 0.4 %
> Firefox 3.0.1 No 171 2 %
> Firefox 3.0 No 102 1.2 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.9 No 33 0.3 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.3 No 33 0.3 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.17 No 537 6.5 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.14 No 66 0.7 %
> Firefox 2.0.0.11 No 66 0.7 %
> Firefox 2.0.0 No 35 0.4 %
> Firefox 1.5.0.7 No 109 1.3 %
> Others 1544 18.6 %
> Safari No 642 7.7 %
> Opera No 544 6.5 %
> Konqueror No 268 3.2 %
> Mozilla No 72 0.8 %
> Unknown ? 13 0.1 %
> LibWWW No 4 0 %
> Lynx No 1 0 %

Mine says Vista @ 10% and GNU/Linux at over 33%. Even Mac OS X almost beats
Vista with 7.2 %. Heck, Ubuntu /alone/ beats Vista.


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Roy S. Schestowitz | Free 3-D Reversi: http://othellomaster.com
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:16:25 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

> Terry Porter wrote:
>
>>Does anyone remember when Microsoft, by using every dirty trick in the
>>book once had around 80% of the browser market ?
>>
>>MSIE now down to a rather lowly 19.3 %!
>
> I don't see any Google Chrome / SRWare Iron browsers. Are you able to
> identify them if they are used?
>
> (SRWare Iron is compiled from the Google Chrome source, but is modified
> so that it does not create unique user IDs, does not send URLs to
> Google, does not tell Google when it is installed, and doesn't use an
> ancient version of Apple's WebKit Engine.. See [
> http://www.srware.net/en/ ] for details)

Hi Guy,
I'm not able to identify them, but perhaps they come under the following
stat ?

Versions Grabber Hits Percent
Unknown ? 21 0.2 %




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On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:37:48 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> Mine says Vista @ 10% and GNU/Linux at over 33%. Even Mac OS X almost
> beats Vista with 7.2 %. Heck, Ubuntu /alone/ beats Vista.
>

Interesting times indeed!

To see Ubuntu kicking Vista arse is quite a sight. As the years roll by,
Windows market presence just shrinks and shrinks, and there seems to be
nothing Microsoft can do about it.

Evolution at work!

Windows ... which Linux distro do you wish you were running today ?






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____/ Terry Porter on Monday 10 November 2008 02:50 : \____

> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:37:48 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> Mine says Vista @ 10% and GNU/Linux at over 33%. Even Mac OS X almost
>> beats Vista with 7.2 %. Heck, Ubuntu /alone/ beats Vista.
>>
>
> Interesting times indeed!
>
> To see Ubuntu kicking Vista arse is quite a sight. As the years roll by,
> Windows market presence just shrinks and shrinks, and there seems to be
> nothing Microsoft can do about it.
>
> Evolution at work!
>
> Windows ... which Linux distro do you wish you were running today ?

Maybe Linux XP? Vixta would never catch on because of the bad association.

BTW, this month's stats got skewed a little in Microsoft's favour 'cause I made
Slashdot's front page yesterday. Windows is typically lower than this.

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Terry Porter writes:

> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:37:48 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> Mine says Vista @ 10% and GNU/Linux at over 33%. Even Mac OS X almost
>> beats Vista with 7.2 %. Heck, Ubuntu /alone/ beats Vista.
>>
>
> Interesting times indeed!
>
> To see Ubuntu kicking Vista arse is quite a sight. As the years roll by,
> Windows market presence just shrinks and shrinks, and there seems to be
> nothing Microsoft can do about it.
>
> Evolution at work!
>
> Windows ... which Linux distro do you wish you were running today ?

It takes two people of monumentally stupid proportions to think for one
minute Linux is kicking Windows arse using stats from Linux orientated
web sites.

Interestingly Roy and his cronies totally denied that OS agnostic sites
like the BBC or (to a lesser degree because of its technical leanings)
W3Schools could provide ANY meaningful statistic based on browser ID.

Terry, you have proven yourself to be a fool once too often. Give it a
break old son.