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Microsoft seen lowering outlook as economy weighs
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| Microsoft's shares have plunged to an eight-year low and its rivals such as
| SAP AG have warned of tighter demand.
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/reuter...49L59O20081022
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[News] [Rival] Microsoft Stock Collapses After Its Outlook Warning
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Microsoft seen lowering outlook as economy weighs
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| Microsoft's shares have plunged to an eight-year low and its rivals such as
| SAP AG have warned of tighter demand.
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/reuter...49L59O20081022
"There is such an overvaluation of technology stocks that it is absurd. I would
include our stock in that category. It is bad for the long-term worth of the
economy."
--Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's CEO
Recent:
Recent:Microsoft, Cisco to lose $4.3 Billion as investment banks cut cost
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| The cut in the IT budgets of the revered investment banks like Lehman
| Brothers and Merrill Lynch due to their failure may lead industry giants like
| U.S. based Microsoft and California based Cisco to lose $4.3 billion in
| orders next year. While Cisco earns about three percent to four percent of
| annual revenue from the U.S. financial industry, Microsoft accounted for 22
| percent last year.
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http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/47182
Microsoft will be hurt by financial crisis, RBC analyst says
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| The devastating U.S. financial crisis will hurt software giant Microsoft
| Corp.'s bottom line this holiday season as shoppers tighten their purse
| strings, RBC Capital Markets says.
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http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...lyst-says.aspx
Ballmer says Microsoft not immune from global crisis
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080930/...CBr9O.m4K573QA
Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars
http://slated.org/microsoft_loses_90_billion_dollars
Microsoft's Market Cap Falls $24B in 17 Days
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| Microsoft is on the list. Today, the stock closed at $25.01 a share, down
| $2.39, or 8.72 percent.
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http://www.microsoft-watch.com/conte...129TX1K0000535
Ex-Microsoft boss sentenced
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine...ftcourt19.html
Former Microsoft Manager Gets 2 Years In Jail
http://news.portalit.net/fullnews_fo...jail_1427.html
SEC Foresees Rise in Fraud Cases
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| Laying out his priorities, the new enforcement chief for the Securities and
| Exchange Commission in San Francisco said Thursday he expects an upswing in
| fraud cases against public companies.
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http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202424479239
Related:
Microsoft's Accounting Under Scrutiny
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| The company has still not made enough information public to provide analysts
| with detailed information on the profitability of its MSN Internet business,
| Mr. Galvin said, adding, ''There's still room for them to obfuscate.''
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...54C0A96F958260
Microsoft - Undeserving of Libertarian Praise
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| One strategy that Microsoft has employed in the past is paying for the
| silence of people and companies. Charles Pancerzewski, formerly Microsoft's
| chief auditor, became aware of Microsoft's practice of carrying earnings from
| one accounting period into another, known as "managing earnings". This
| practice smoothes reported revenue streams, increases share value, and
| misleads employees and shareholders. In addition to being unethical, it's
| also illegal under U.S. Securities Law and violates Generally Accepted
| Accounting Practices (Fink). Mr. Pancerzewski claims he was forced to retire,
| for raising the issue of deferred earnings with Microsoft executives, thereby
| making plausible deniability more difficult for said executives. He has since
| sued Microsoft, who responded by settling out of court, but also sealing the
| records to prevent public disclosure (Fink).
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http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/8/20/11034/3908
Microsoft Agrees To Refrain From Accounting Violations in SEC Settlement
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| Microsoft has agreed to refrain from accounting violations to settle federal
| regulators' allegations that it misrepresented its financial performance, the
| government announced Monday.
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| Under a settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the software
| giant neither admitted to nor denied wrongdoing. No fine was imposed.
|
| The SEC alleged that Microsoft's accounting practices from July 1994 through
| June 1998 caused its income to be substantially misstated.
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http://www.crn.com/it-channel/18819490
"Microsoft Tax," MSN Enters the Black Hole, New Names for NT
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| The lawsuit, filed last year by Mukilteo City Councilman Charles
| Pancerzewski, alleges that he was forced to resign as Microsoft's general
| auditor in January 1996 after working for the company's internal auditing
| department for more than four years. The suit claims that a "significantly
| younger man" with little auditing experience was picked to replace
| Pancerzewski, who was finally forced out because he discovered Microsoft
| might have been violating government regulations. Once Pancerzewski left the
| company he was replaced by the younger man, who his attorneys believe
| was "less prone to raise issues of possible legal improprieties which could
| threaten or embarrass Microsoft or its management.
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http://www.msboycott.com/news/98_06_22.shtml
SEC Investigating Microsoft Practices -- Earnings Manipulated, Former Employee
Contends
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| "The CFO to whom Charlie was reporting his concerns about illegality was the
| biggest advocate for the very illegality that was going on," Vial argued in
| court a year ago.
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http://community.seattletimes.nwsour...1&slug=2969514
Microfraud?
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| THE ALLEGATIONS WERE shocking: For years, Microsoft has systematically
| distorted its profit figures in an effort to consistently beat Wall Street
| expectations and keep its stock price steadily rising. The false reports
| would violate SEC regulations, and amount to outright fraud.
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| More shocking was the source of the allegations: Microsoft's chief of
| internal audits, Charlie Pancerzewski, who reported directly to the company's
| chief financial officer.
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| Most shocking of all was what happened to Pancerzewski when he reported the
| suspicious bookkeeping to his supervisors, Microsoft CFO Mike Brown and chief
| operating officer Bob Herbold, in the spring of 1995. Soon afterward,
| Pancerzewski—who for nearly five years had received stellar performance
| evaluations—received his first-ever unsatisfactory one, and was eventually
| forced to resign.
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| Two months ago, Microsoft quietly settled a lawsuit containing these
| allegations, filed in 1997 by Pancerzewski under the Whistleblowers
| Protection Act. The auditor claimed he was wrongfully terminated after
| telling his supervisors that Microsoft might be breaking securities and tax
| laws. The lawsuit made its tortuous way through several rounds of pretrial
| motions until last fall, when US District Judge Carolyn Dimmick denied
| Microsoft's final plea for summary judgment, finding credible evidence that
| Microsoft may have violated SEC rules, as Pancerzewski alleged. Shortly
| thereafter, Microsoft and Pancerzewski settled out of court. Terms of the
| agreement were sealed, but one source who claims familiarity with the case
| says that Microsoft paid Pancerzewski $4 million.
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http://web.archive.org/web/200703080...microfraud.php
Microsoft exec dumped stock prior to Red Ring announcement
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| To make matters more murky, the sales were not registered with the Securities
| and Exchange Commission within the mandatory two days of the transaction, a
| result of an alleged "administrative error." Microsoft has since remedied the
| issue by following the "procedures required of late-filers."
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http://arstechnica.com/journals/thum...ing-addresment
Microsoft's Bach sold more stock before Xbox news
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| Microsoft Corp. executive Robbie Bach sold $3 million more in company stock
| during the period leading up to an announcement about a costly flaw in its
| Xbox video game console than previously reported, according to a filing
| Monday with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
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http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...D&siteid=yhoof
Insider Trading Hasn't Affect Microsoft Stock - Yet
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| MarketWatch.com reports that Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft's
| Entertainment and Devices division, sold $6.2 million of Microsoft
| stock just prior to announcing that Microsoft was going to have to
| extend XBox 360 warranties to three years because of extensive
| failures. The filings note that this was not part of any
| scheduled diversification or selling program; this was a
| conscious, unscheduled sale by the guy in charge of releasing
| news that could affect the value of Microsoft stock.
|
| [...]
|
| Insider trading is a very serious violation of the law; just
| ask Martha Stewart, who served five months in prison for
| avoiding losses of $43,000 through trades that just had suspicious
| timing (no insider trading was actually proven). This is $6.3
| million that went straight into Robbie Bach's pocket.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/07...7_id.html?.v=1
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Re: [News] [Rival] Microsoft Stock Collapses After Its Outlook Warning
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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Google is now more than 56% the size of micoshaft corporation.
I say let Google buy out micoshaft.
Free up the code, and it will create 10 million+ new jobs as IT workers
scamble to repair and upgrade everything in sight and create new products.
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Re: [News] [Rival] Microsoft Stock Collapses After Its Outlook Warning
7 wrote:
> Google is now more than 56% the size of micoshaft corporation.
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> I say let Google buy out micoshaft.
>
> Free up the code,
You're basically brain-dead, little fraud. Neither the Google nor MS
shareholders or executives would ever approve such a stunningly stupid move,
one which would instantly make Microsoft virtually worthless.
> and it will create 10 million+ new jobs as IT
> workers scamble to repair and upgrade everything in sight and create
> new products.
Like shape-changing, self-repairing nanobots?
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Re: [Rival] Microsoft Stock Collapses After Its Outlook Warning
On Oct 23, 12:25 am, 7 wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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> Google is now more than 56% the size of micoshaft corporation.
>
> I say let Google buy out micoshaft.
>
> Free up the code, and it will create 10 million+ new jobs as IT workers
> scamble to repair and upgrade everything in sight and create new products.
Uh, good luck with that; having a minnow attempt to
swallow a shark isn't exactly the best of strategies on
the minnow's part.
GOOG marketcap: $110B
MSFT marketcap: $196B
GOOG debt: $0
MSFT debt: $0.001B
Granted, it would be nice to liberate the Windows code.
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Re: [Rival] Microsoft Stock Collapses After Its Outlook Warning
After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Oct 23, 12:25 am, 7 wrote:
>>
>> Google is now more than 56% the size of micoshaft corporation.
>>
>> I say let Google buy out micoshaft.
>>
>> Free up the code, and it will create 10 million+ new jobs as IT workers
>> scamble to repair and upgrade everything in sight and create new products.
>
> Uh, good luck with that; having a minnow attempt to
> swallow a shark isn't exactly the best of strategies on
> the minnow's part.
>
> GOOG marketcap: $110B
> MSFT marketcap: $196B
>
> GOOG debt: $0
> MSFT debt: $0.001B
Yeah, you'd need two Google "minnows" to do the job.
> Granted, it would be nice to liberate the Windows code.
Or its users, anyway.
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n = ((n >> 2) & 0x33333333) | ((n << 2) & 0xcccccccc);
n = ((n >> 4) & 0x0f0f0f0f) | ((n << 4) & 0xf0f0f0f0);
n = ((n >> 8) & 0x00ff00ff) | ((n << 8) & 0xff00ff00);
n = ((n >> 16) & 0x0000ffff) | ((n << 16) & 0xffff0000);
-- C code which reverses the bits in a word.
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Re: [Rival] Microsoft Stock Collapses After Its Outlook Warning
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> On Oct 23, 12:25 am, 7 wrote:
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>> > Microsoft seen lowering outlook as economy weighs
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>> > | Microsoft's shares have plunged to an eight-year low and its rivals
>> > | such as SAP AG have warned of tighter demand.
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>> >http://uk.reuters.com/article/reuter...49L59O20081022
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>> Google is now more than 56% the size of micoshaft corporation.
>>
>> I say let Google buy out micoshaft.
>>
>> Free up the code, and it will create 10 million+ new jobs as IT workers
>> scamble to repair and upgrade everything in sight and create new
>> products.
>
> Uh, good luck with that; having a minnow attempt to
> swallow a shark isn't exactly the best of strategies on
> the minnow's part.
I don't get that at all.
By the time the talks are done, and the chairs are all thrown,
and the paint has dried and cows have all come home it will
taken 3 years and micoshaft will be worth less than a third
what it is today - or about 60 billion while google will have
edged out by about a third to about 140 billion.
For the shareholders in micoshaft doing nothing is not an option.
Sacking everyone in management is not an option.
Sueing everyone is not an option.
Shorting the stock out is not an option.
But they are still going to bleed to the tune of 140 billion.
That is a certainty.
The safest option is to sell out to google
while the stock value is still high.
And for google to then free the code to explode the IT market
with new jobs and ride the wave of new products.
The old business models are dead.
The new world requires decisive action to create and spread
wealth around.
> GOOG marketcap: $110B
> MSFT marketcap: $196B
>
> GOOG debt: $0
> MSFT debt: $0.001B
>
> Granted, it would be nice to liberate the Windows code.
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Re: Microsoft Stock Collapses After Its Outlook Warning
On Oct 23, 9:58 am, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
> > On Oct 23, 12:25 am, 7 wrote:
>
> >> Google is now more than 56% the size of micoshaft corporation.
>
> >> I say let Google buy out micoshaft.
>
> >> Free up the code, and it will create 10 million+ new jobs as IT workers
> >> scamble to repair and upgrade everything in sight and create new products.
>
> > Uh, good luck with that; having a minnow attempt to
> > swallow a shark isn't exactly the best of strategies on
> > the minnow's part.
>
> > GOOG marketcap: $110B
> > MSFT marketcap: $196B
>
> > GOOG debt: $0
> > MSFT debt: $0.001B
>
> Yeah, you'd need two Google "minnows" to do the job.
Two would be enough at that, though it depends on how
much the actual shareholders (as opposed to speculators,
day traders, etc.) think the stock might be worth; see,
for instance, Yahoo!'s response to Microsoft's initial
attempts at a hostile takeover; I think the delta was 33
to 37 at the time, which is about a 12% difference --
about the same as 56% * 2, as it turns out.[*]
As for IT workers repairing things -- don't you think that
effort is better spent elsewhere? ;-) Though in all
fairness we could spend a little time upgrading things
to be more malware-resistant, and more crack-resistant;
the number of Apache cracks is a bit embarrassing,
apparently -- though that's still nowhere near as many
compromises as each and every desktop that's gotten
infected, most of them running Windows.
And ideally they wouldn't scramble, anyway; the general
idea would be to slowly replace proprietary software as
systems wear out with new systems and open source software.
And ideally the systems *would* wear out, as opposed to
simply having to be replaced just to accommodate the latest
in thick, dripping, gobby, bloaty blobware. Does one
really need 4 GB of RAM just to send emails, compose memos,
and browse the Web? Ye gods. The Amiga might give Linux a
heck of a tonguelashing, were it still alive, even given
that Linux can boot in 14 MB (though without a GUI);
the Amiga 1000 could run in 256K at one point with its GUI.
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> > Granted, it would be nice to liberate the Windows code.
>
> Or its users, anyway.
Indeed, though I'm not sure one really needs Windows
source code for that. :-) Ideally, for all products
users have running on Windows, products of identical
or near-identical functionality would exist on Linux.
I think we're getting reasonably close in many cases,
though the Winvocates may have specific examples
disproving such -- and certainly I'm not all that
familiar with the nooks and crannies.
[*] Apples and oranges -- the 12% is in addition to,
and might instead be expressed 112%.