On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:

> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>
> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>
> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
> reboots."
>
> hah! What lying bull****.
>
> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies spewing
> forth.

You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
usually only requires a couple of reboots.

ray wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
>> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>>
>> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
>> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>>
>> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
>> reboots."
>>
>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>
>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies
>> spewing forth.
>
> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
> usually only requires a couple of reboots.


You're a liar too, raytard.

Generally (I'd say at least 80% of the time), it requires no reboots.

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:33:01 -0400, DFS wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
>>> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>>>
>>> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
>>> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>>>
>>> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
>>> reboots."
>>>
>>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>>
>>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies spewing
>>> forth.
>>
>> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
>> usually only requires a couple of reboots.
>
>
> You're a liar too, raytard.
>
> Generally (I'd say at least 80% of the time), it requires no reboots.

Ah, I see. Linux ONLY requires a reboot when you install a new kernel -
for general software - never at all.

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:10:15 +0000, ray wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:33:01 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
>>>> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>>>>
>>>> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
>>>> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
>>>> reboots."
>>>>
>>>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>>>
>>>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies
>>>> spewing forth.
>>>
>>> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
>>> usually only requires a couple of reboots.
>>
>>
>> You're a liar too, raytard.
>>
>> Generally (I'd say at least 80% of the time), it requires no reboots.
>
> Ah, I see. Linux ONLY requires a reboot when you install a new kernel -
> for general software - never at all.

When installing vmware on Linux it had to compile 2 kernel
modules. Was a reboot required? NO

My brother called this evening. He's computer illiterate. He had just
bought a second computer. Both run XP Pro and he wanted to know how to
share folders between them. So I walk him through the Windows
GUI. Guess what, last thing it says is he must reboot.

Verily I say unto thee, that ray spake thusly:

> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
> usually only requires a couple of reboots.

Except if that software is the OS itself, in which case it's one reboot
for each and every driver that one must install or upgrade post-install.
Combine that with the mandatory reboots for each application, and each
of their updates, and on a fully-loaded system you could looking at over
a hundred reboots.

Damn!

Oh, but I forgot - according to DooFuS that's a "lie".

LOL.

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ray wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:33:01 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
>>>> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>>>>
>>>> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
>>>> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
>>>> reboots."
>>>>
>>>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>>>
>>>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies
>>>> spewing forth.
>>>
>>> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
>>> usually only requires a couple of reboots.
>>
>>
>> You're a liar too, raytard.
>>
>> Generally (I'd say at least 80% of the time), it requires no reboots.
>
> Ah, I see. Linux ONLY requires a reboot when you install a new kernel
> - for general software - never at all.

That's the lie you guys tell each other. The reality is Linux reboots are
nearly constant - every few minutes - for some Ubuntu victims.

This dumbkopf had to reboot 8 times just to get a working system: #124
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...freeze&page=13

And "If it still fails to start, sometimes a reboot is required."
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg7

The forums at all or most distros have many, many instances of victims doing
forced reboots when the Linux slopware locks up.

Mepis requires a reboot when changing the video driver.

Linux crapware spontaneously reboots at a rate ~140x higher than Windows,
according to Google indexing:
Results 1 - 10 of about 21,400 for Linux spontaneously reboots
Results 1 - 10 of about 33,200 for Windows spontaneously reboots

And so on and so on. The wasted time never ends when you subject yourself
to amateur kiddieware.

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:

> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>
> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>
> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen reboots."
>
> hah! What lying bull****.
>
> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies spewing
> forth.

I just looked at that magazine in Borders today.
It was all slimy with cafe spills and poppy seeds falling out of it.

Evidently the Linux loons are too cheap to purchase it so they read it
while sitting in the cafe lounge and then put it back on the shelf.

I went and washed my hands after making the mistake of picking up the
magazine.

--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
Please Visit www.linsux.org

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
>> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>>
>> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
>> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>>
>> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
>> reboots."
>>
>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>
>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies
>> spewing forth.
>
> I just looked at that magazine in Borders today.
> It was all slimy with cafe spills and poppy seeds falling out of it.
>
> Evidently the Linux loons are too cheap to purchase it so they read it
> while sitting in the cafe lounge and then put it back on the shelf.
>
> I went and washed my hands after making the mistake of picking up the
> magazine.

hah!

In article , Homer
wrote:
> Except if that software is the OS itself, in which case it's one reboot
> for each and every driver that one must install or upgrade post-install.
> Combine that with the mandatory reboots for each application, and each
> of their updates, and on a fully-loaded system you could looking at over
> a hundred reboots.
>
> Damn!
>
> Oh, but I forgot - according to DooFuS that's a "lie".
>
> LOL.

My new gaming system, which was assembled without an OS and then had
Vista installed from scratch, required less than half a dozen boots
total, for installation of the OS, all drivers, and all updates to date.

--
--Tim Smith

Homer wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee, that ray spake thusly:
>
>> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
>> usually only requires a couple of reboots.
>
> Except if that software is the OS itself, in which case it's one
> reboot for each and every driver that one must install or upgrade
> post-install. Combine that with the mandatory reboots for each
> application, and each of their updates, and on a fully-loaded system
> you could looking at over a hundred reboots.

Was stinking cigarette smoke curling out of your mouth and nose when you
typed this stinking lie?

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:26:47 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

> In article , Homer
> wrote:
>> Except if that software is the OS itself, in which case it's one reboot
>> for each and every driver that one must install or upgrade post-install.
>> Combine that with the mandatory reboots for each application, and each
>> of their updates, and on a fully-loaded system you could looking at over
>> a hundred reboots.
>>
>> Damn!
>>
>> Oh, but I forgot - according to DooFuS that's a "lie".
>>
>> LOL.
>
> My new gaming system, which was assembled without an OS and then had
> Vista installed from scratch, required less than half a dozen boots
> total, for installation of the OS, all drivers, and all updates to date.

Just installing Mandriva and updates required 5 "log out of the gui"
prompts which effectively kills my programs anyway and is as big a PITA as
a reboot.

--
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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
Please Visit www.linsux.org

DFS wrote:

> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen reboots."

The most tragic fact about Windows is not that it requires so many
reboots while installing/upgrading software and drivers. The most tragic
fact is that 9 out of 10 times this is the only thing you can do to
troubleshoot even the slightest problem.
Step 1
Install or uninstall the (most probably defective or bogus) fix for your
problem then reboot.
Step 2
Oh it did not work. Now let's reverse the previous action reinstall what
you uninstalled or unistall what you installed and then reboot.
Ok now let's go back to step 1 using a different .exe installer snake
oil solution we downloaded from www.viruses-are-us.ru and hope for the best.

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:16:42 +0000, ray wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
>> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>>
>> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
>> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>>
>> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
>> reboots."
>>
>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>
>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies spewing
>> forth.
>
> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
> usually only requires a couple of reboots.

Subject changed to reflect the DFS troll's desperation.

After takin' a swig o' grog, ray belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
>> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>>
>> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
>> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>>
>> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
>> reboots."
>>
>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>
>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies spewing
>> forth.

Jeezuz, DFS is squealing like a school girl!

> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
> usually only requires a couple of reboots.

And it does take "ages" to install, since Windows comes with very few
common tools (decent browser, decent multimedia app, decent consoles,
no programmer's editor, no compiler/IDE, no office software, a paucity
of themes, a paucity of games, no real download manager, restrictive
remote access software, dictionaries, ... I mean, the list of stuff
that is missing from Windows is absolutely incredible, absolutely
mind-boggling.

And no centralized location to retrieve and install all of the above!

It's no contest!

--
Having nothing, nothing can he lose.
-- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI"

After takin' a swig o' grog, ray belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:33:01 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>>>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>>>
>>>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies spewing
>>>> forth.
>>>
>>> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
>>> usually only requires a couple of reboots.
>>
>> You're a liar too, raytard.
>>
>> Generally (I'd say at least 80% of the time), it requires no reboots.
>
> Ah, I see. Linux ONLY requires a reboot when you install a new kernel -
> for general software - never at all.

DFS seems to be forgetting the near-regular reboots required by
automatic Windows updates.

Dat stinking Windows wiar!!! His pants awe on fiwe!

Heck, a guy at work suspends his Windows laptop. He tells me it goes
quite a long time, two or so weeks, before he needs to force a reboot to
"clean it up".

Meantime:

09:00:45 up 179 days, 15:10, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.12, 0.10

(yeah, I know Jeb, my system doesn't get a ton of use, just this
newgrouping, email, streaming, light browsing, and light file/print
sharing, web serving, document editing, some light dev work.)

--
We laugh at the Indian philosopher, who to account for the support
of the earth, contrived the hypothesis of a huge elephant, and to support
the elephant, a huge tortoise. If we will candidly confess the truth, we
know as little of the operation of the nerves, as he did of the manner in
which the earth is supported: and our hypothesis about animal spirits, or
about the tension and vibrations of the nerves, are as like to be true, as
his about the support of the earth. His elephant was a hypothesis, and our
hypotheses are elephants. Every theory in philosophy, which is built on
pure conjecture, is an elephant; and every theory that is supported partly
by fact, and partly by conjecture, is like Nebuchadnezzar's image, whose
feet were partly of iron, and partly of clay.
-- Thomas Reid, "An Inquiry into the Human Mind", 1764

After takin' a swig o' grog, Rob Schwenk belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:33:01 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>>>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies
>>>>> spewing forth.
>>>
>>> You're a liar too, raytard.
>>>
>>> Generally (I'd say at least 80% of the time), it requires no reboots.
>>
> When installing vmware on Linux it had to compile 2 kernel
> modules. Was a reboot required? NO
>
> My brother called this evening. He's computer illiterate. He had just
> bought a second computer. Both run XP Pro and he wanted to know how to
> share folders between them. So I walk him through the Windows
> GUI. Guess what, last thing it says is he must reboot.

That's weird. Must not have had a component installed during the
original install. Still pretty funny to have to reboot to activate it.

--
If there is any better use for being famous and respected than using that
status to question orthodoxy, I haven't found it yet.
-- Eric S. Raymond, in "We Don't Need the GPL Anymore"

After takin' a swig o' grog, Tim Smith belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

> In article , Homer
> wrote:
>> Except if that software is the OS itself, in which case it's one reboot
>> for each and every driver that one must install or upgrade post-install.
>> Combine that with the mandatory reboots for each application, and each
>> of their updates, and on a fully-loaded system you could looking at over
>> a hundred reboots.

Quite a bit over-the-top, Home!

>> Damn!
>> Oh, but I forgot - according to DooFuS that's a "lie".
>> LOL.
>
> My new gaming system, which was assembled without an OS and then had
> Vista installed from scratch, required less than half a dozen boots
> total, for installation of the OS, all drivers, and all updates to date.

Cool. That's because you did it all at once, consolidating the reboots.

By the way, which Vista?

--
A real friend isn't someone you use once and then throw away.
A real friend is someone you can use over and over again.

In article <9DmIk.48943$vX2.26726@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> > My new gaming system, which was assembled without an OS and then had
> > Vista installed from scratch, required less than half a dozen boots
> > total, for installation of the OS, all drivers, and all updates to date.
>
> Cool. That's because you did it all at once, consolidating the reboots.
>
> By the way, which Vista?

Home Premium 64-bit. Here's the (nearly) complete specs of the system:

From Newegg:

Antec Sonata III case and power supply


750 GB Seagate Barracuda 32 MB cache SATA 3.0 GB/sec hard drive


8 GB of RAM
2x

Wireless adaptor


Asus P5Q Pro motherboard


NVidia GeForce 9800 GT 512 MB video card


Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3 GHz


DVD burner


Vista Home Premium 64-bit


I also bought a monitor for it from Best Buy:

LG W2252TQ Flatron

>

(It was on sale for quite a bit less than the price given at that link).

Finally, some decent but inexpensive speakers for when I feel like
deviating from my usual headphones, bought from Wal-Mart. They don't
list them online.

--
--Tim Smith

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:18:06 -0400, DFS wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:33:01 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:46:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They produced a thick magazine on switching to Linux.
>>>>> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/blog/?p=416s
>>>>>
>>>>> I flipped through it at Barnes & Noble today. Among the many snide
>>>>> references to Windows found throughout, one stood out:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Windows software takes ages to install and requires a half-dozen
>>>>> reboots."
>>>>>
>>>>> hah! What lying bull****.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stinking Linux liars can't open their mouths without foul lies
>>>>> spewing forth.
>>>>
>>>> You're right. Generally, an installation of software on an MS system
>>>> usually only requires a couple of reboots.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're a liar too, raytard.
>>>
>>> Generally (I'd say at least 80% of the time), it requires no reboots.
>>
>> Ah, I see. Linux ONLY requires a reboot when you install a new kernel -
>> for general software - never at all.
>
> That's the lie you guys tell each other. The reality is Linux reboots
> are nearly constant - every few minutes - for some Ubuntu victims.
>

That is B.S. and you know it. I've never seen a Linux install that was
unstable in that way UNLESS THERE WAS A HARDWARE MALFUNCTION.