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  1. Linux loonies build a nym army.


    A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.

    ,----
    | if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a troll
    | "Trolls4Hire"
    |
    | twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in order to fight shills nyms in /.
    | we would need patent trolls with an itch to scratch (ie, a score to settle)... lol
    | Avistar?
    | It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    `----

    So, who will continue to side with Roy as he moans about nyms and
    trolls now?

    Well, don't blub. You were warned that he was in it for himself and no one
    else and that he would stop at nothing to generate links.

    Unfortunately for him it would appear that a mere PhD Student is NOT
    safe from prosecution for blatantly ignoring copyrights. Faber and Faber
    are allegedly going to have a chat with him to determine just why he
    thinks he may break the law in such a fashion. Only time will tell I
    suppose.

  2. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:05:18 +0200, Hadron wrote:

    > A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    > darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    > snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    > channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.
    >
    > ,----
    >| if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a troll
    >| "Trolls4Hire"
    >|
    >| twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in order to fight shills nyms in /.
    >| we would need patent trolls with an itch to scratch (ie, a score to settle)... lol
    >| Avistar?
    >| It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    > `----
    >
    > So, who will continue to side with Roy as he moans about nyms and
    > trolls now?
    >
    > Well, don't blub. You were warned that he was in it for himself and no one
    > else and that he would stop at nothing to generate links.
    >
    > Unfortunately for him it would appear that a mere PhD Student is NOT
    > safe from prosecution for blatantly ignoring copyrights. Faber and Faber
    > are allegedly going to have a chat with him to determine just why he
    > thinks he may break the law in such a fashion. Only time will tell I
    > suppose.


    I've never heard of Faber and Faber before but if they are anything like
    "The Harry Fox Agency" who police the entertainment world for infringements
    (a bunch of SOB's BTW), Roy is in for a very rough ride.
    Those people are like pit bulls and will not let go when they sense blood.
    And they CAN get blood from a stone.
    They will attach his future earnings.
    Just like they did with OJ Simpson in the civil trial.

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
    Please Visit www.linsux.org

  3. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    In article ,
    Hadron wrote:

    > A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    > darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    > snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    > channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.
    >
    > ,----
    > | if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a troll
    > | "Trolls4Hire"
    > |
    > | twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in order to
    > | fight shills nyms in /.
    > | we would need patent trolls with an itch to scratch (ie, a score
    > | to settle)... lol
    > | Avistar?
    > | It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    > `----


    Twitter is using something like 9 nyms on Slashdot. The funny thing is,
    even with him using nyms to favorably comment on his posts, and probably
    to moderate them up, 23 of his last 24 comments there are rated -1.
    (The other made it to 0). 10 of the -1 comments are labeled "troll", 1
    "interesting", 1 "informative" and 1 "insightful". The 0 comment is
    labeled "funny".

    Slashdot moderation is fundamentally different from Digg moderation. At
    Digg, any registered user can dig or bury any story, and can vote any
    comment up or down. On Digg, if a dozen regular readers do not like
    you, they can watch for you and moderate you down. (And conversely, you
    can use a dozen accounts to dig up your own submissions and comments).

    On Slashdot, a subset of users is awarded moderation points, which
    expire after a few days. This enables them to rate comments. Each
    comment they rate costs them one point. Furthermore, they cannot
    moderate comments for a story that they have commented on (and if they
    comment after moderating other comments, their moderation is undone).

    Thus, on Slashdot, a dozen people who dislike you--even a dozen people
    who are making an organized attempt to moderate you down, are not going
    to be effective. Yet Twitter is consistently and quickly voted down.
    That's very impressive--it means he's been such a notorious troll that a
    very large fraction of the Slashdot readership recognize him, and think
    him notorious enough to spend one of their precious few moderator points
    on his posts, apparently out of general anti-troll principles, as they
    do this even on posts where he does not appear to be trolling.

    --
    --Tim Smith

  4. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    In article ,
    "Moshe Goldfarb." wrote:
    > > Unfortunately for him it would appear that a mere PhD Student is NOT
    > > safe from prosecution for blatantly ignoring copyrights. Faber and Faber
    > > are allegedly going to have a chat with him to determine just why he
    > > thinks he may break the law in such a fashion. Only time will tell I
    > > suppose.

    >
    > I've never heard of Faber and Faber before but if they are anything like


    Noted UK publishing house. 2006 Publisher of the Year. Noted for their
    poetry, according to Wikipedia. It's hard to imagine what they would
    have that Roy might have reason to infringe.

    --
    --Tim Smith

  5. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:06:47 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

    > In article ,
    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    >> darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    >> snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    >> channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.
    >>
    >> ,----
    >>| if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a troll
    >>| "Trolls4Hire"
    >>|
    >>| twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in order to
    >>| fight shills nyms in /.
    >>| we would need patent trolls with an itch to scratch (ie, a score
    >>| to settle)... lol
    >>| Avistar?
    >>| It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    >> `----

    >
    > Twitter is using something like 9 nyms on Slashdot. The funny thing is,
    > even with him using nyms to favorably comment on his posts, and probably
    > to moderate them up, 23 of his last 24 comments there are rated -1.
    > (The other made it to 0). 10 of the -1 comments are labeled "troll", 1
    > "interesting", 1 "informative" and 1 "insightful". The 0 comment is
    > labeled "funny".


    Twitter is a complete joke on all the blogs.
    He trolls constantly under various nyms, as does Roy Schestowitz (Techguy)
    albeit to a lesser degree.

    For Roy, Twitter, [Homer] and so forth to point fingers at the astroturfing
    movement of various companies, be it true or false, and yet at the same
    time be guilty of the exact same kind of behavior is purely hypocritical

    > Slashdot moderation is fundamentally different from Digg moderation. At
    > Digg, any registered user can dig or bury any story, and can vote any
    > comment up or down. On Digg, if a dozen regular readers do not like
    > you, they can watch for you and moderate you down. (And conversely, you
    > can use a dozen accounts to dig up your own submissions and comments).


    And that is exactly what Roy Schestowitz does.
    Check his posts and you can see it.
    He starts with 1 digg and within minutes has 3 or 4, and then it sits for a
    while and if it takes off he may get more but typically it dies.

    Seems really strange that just about every single one of his submissions
    react the same exact way. no matter what time of the day or night they are
    pipelined to digg.


    > On Slashdot, a subset of users is awarded moderation points, which
    > expire after a few days. This enables them to rate comments. Each
    > comment they rate costs them one point. Furthermore, they cannot
    > moderate comments for a story that they have commented on (and if they
    > comment after moderating other comments, their moderation is undone).


    Roy claims the fix is in and everyone is out to get him.

    > Thus, on Slashdot, a dozen people who dislike you--even a dozen people
    > who are making an organized attempt to moderate you down, are not going
    > to be effective. Yet Twitter is consistently and quickly voted down.
    > That's very impressive--it means he's been such a notorious troll that a
    > very large fraction of the Slashdot readership recognize him, and think
    > him notorious enough to spend one of their precious few moderator points
    > on his posts, apparently out of general anti-troll principles, as they
    > do this even on posts where he does not appear to be trolling.


    What happens on Slashdot is that people call a troll a troll and Roy and
    his loony toon group of oddballs are considered to be a huge joke.

    Roy doesn't like people at large expressing their opinion, especially when
    it disagrees with his.


    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
    Please Visit www.linsux.org

  6. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    Hadron wrote:

    >
    > A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    > darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    > snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    > channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.
    >
    > ,----
    > | if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a
    > | troll "Trolls4Hire"
    > |
    > | twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in order
    > | to fight shills nyms in /. we would need patent trolls with an
    > | itch to scratch (ie, a score to settle)... lol Avistar?
    > | It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    > `----
    >
    > So, who will continue to side with Roy as he moans about nyms and
    > trolls now?
    >
    > Well, don't blub. You were warned that he was in it for himself and no one
    > else and that he would stop at nothing to generate links.
    >
    > Unfortunately for him it would appear that a mere PhD Student is NOT
    > safe from prosecution for blatantly ignoring copyrights. Faber and Faber
    > are allegedly going to have a chat with him to determine just why he
    > thinks he may break the law in such a fashion. Only time will tell I
    > suppose.


    So where's Roy's irc channel? How do get on it? Or is it an
    invitation-only kinda thing?

    Oh, and how do you know this excerpt from an irc log is genuine?

  7. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    Firey Bird writes:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    >> darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    >> snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    >> channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.
    >>
    >> ,----
    >> | if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a
    >> | troll "Trolls4Hire"
    >> |
    >> | twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in order
    >> | to fight shills nyms in /. we would need patent trolls with an
    >> | itch to scratch (ie, a score to settle)... lol Avistar?
    >> | It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    >> `----
    >>
    >> So, who will continue to side with Roy as he moans about nyms and
    >> trolls now?
    >>
    >> Well, don't blub. You were warned that he was in it for himself and no one
    >> else and that he would stop at nothing to generate links.
    >>
    >> Unfortunately for him it would appear that a mere PhD Student is NOT
    >> safe from prosecution for blatantly ignoring copyrights. Faber and Faber
    >> are allegedly going to have a chat with him to determine just why he
    >> thinks he may break the law in such a fashion. Only time will tell I
    >> suppose.

    >
    > So where's Roy's irc channel? How do get on it? Or is it an
    > invitation-only kinda thing?


    No idea.

    >
    > Oh, and how do you know this excerpt from an irc log is genuine?


    I don't. Same way none of us know if anything he says is genuine these
    days.


    --
    "Maybe you can buy a Saturday Night Special and blow your POS brains out."
    -- Rick in comp.os.linux.advocacy

  8. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    After takin' a swig o' grog, Firey Bird belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >> A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    >> darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    >> snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    >> channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.
    >>
    >> ,----
    >> | if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a
    >> | troll "Trolls4Hire"
    >> |
    >> | twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in order
    >> | to fight shills nyms in /. we would need patent trolls with an
    >> | itch to scratch (ie, a score to settle)... lol Avistar?
    >> | It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    >> `----
    >>
    >> So, who will continue to side with Roy as he moans about nyms and
    >> trolls now?
    >>
    >> Well, don't blub. You were warned that he was in it for himself and no one
    >> else and that he would stop at nothing to generate links.
    >>
    >> Unfortunately for him it would appear that a mere PhD Student is NOT
    >> safe from prosecution for blatantly ignoring copyrights. Faber and Faber
    >> are allegedly going to have a chat with him to determine just why he
    >> thinks he may break the law in such a fashion. Only time will tell I
    >> suppose.

    >
    > So where's Roy's irc channel? How do get on it? Or is it an
    > invitation-only kinda thing?
    >
    > Oh, and how do you know this excerpt from an irc log is genuine?


    I'd like to know where Hadron the Confabulist gets his interpretations,
    too.

    Also why Hadron isn't outraged about his own posting of someone's
    semi-private conversation. Where's his sense of justice? Or is he
    simply a trolling hypocrite who wants to smear anyone who remotely
    promotes Linux in COLA?

    >> A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    >> darkside they have decided to stop the rot.


    *LMAO*

    What a silly, pompous windbag!

    --
    It is either through the influence of narcotic potions, of which all
    primitive peoples and races speak in hymns, or through the powerful approach
    of spring, penetrating with joy all of nature, that those Dionysian stirrings
    arise, which in their intensification lead the individual to forget himself
    completely. . . .Not only does the bond between man and man come to be forged
    once again by the magic of the Dionysian rite, but alienated, hostile, or
    subjugated nature again celebrates her reconciliation with her prodigal son,
    man.
    -- Fred Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy

  9. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

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    ____/ Firey Bird on Wednesday 08 October 2008 10:38 : \____

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> [snip lies from Microsoft-hired hyenas and spies]

    >
    > So where's Roy's irc channel? How do get on it? Or is it an
    > invitation-only kinda thing?
    >
    > Oh, and how do you know this excerpt from an irc log is genuine?


    He did a selective snipping work to present this out of context and daemonise.
    The log is here:

    http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/07/irc-log-07102008/

    - --
    ~~ Best of wishes

    Roy S. Schestowitz | "Free the mind, the source will follow"
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  10. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    Roy Schestowitz wrote:
    > He did a selective snipping work to present this out of context and daemonise.


    Of course he did. We wouldn't expect any different from the likes of hardon.
    --
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    | Andrew Halliwell BSc | |
    | in | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
    | Computer Science | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |

  11. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    After takin' a swig o' grog, Andrew Halliwell belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > Roy Schestowitz wrote:
    >> He did a selective snipping work to present this out of context and daemonise.

    >
    > Of course he did. We wouldn't expect any different from the likes of hardon.


    I wonder who Hadron's buddy was who sent him the revelatory e-mail.

    And why that person considered Hadron to be someone with a
    "need-to-know".

    Could it be that Hadron is part of a "cabal" even more sinister than the
    Linux "cabal"? Could it be that Hadron has his own "master" for whom he
    is a "lap dog"? Or is Hadron actually in the "master" hierarchy, with
    his own "minions" and "lap dogs" "feeding" him "doggie-drops" of
    "intelligence", which Hadron then feeds to his "master"? And where does
    "Moshe" fit in the "hierarchy"? Did "he" send Hadron this mysterious
    e-mail, with a "command" to "forward it to COLA"? "We must neutralize
    this Roy Schestowitz... persona ... and render him ineffective, perhaps
    even turn him to our purpose. Muuuuuah-ha-ha-ha-ha."



    --
    philosophy:
    The ability to bear with calmness the misfortunes of our friends.

  12. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:38:21 +0100, Firey Bird wrote:

    > Hadron wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    >> darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    >> snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    >> channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.
    >>
    >> ,----
    >>| if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a
    >>| troll "Trolls4Hire"
    >>|
    >>| twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in order
    >>| to fight shills nyms in /. we would need patent trolls with an
    >>| itch to scratch (ie, a score to settle)... lol Avistar?
    >>| It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    >> `----
    >>
    >> So, who will continue to side with Roy as he moans about nyms and
    >> trolls now?
    >>
    >> Well, don't blub. You were warned that he was in it for himself and no one
    >> else and that he would stop at nothing to generate links.
    >>
    >> Unfortunately for him it would appear that a mere PhD Student is NOT
    >> safe from prosecution for blatantly ignoring copyrights. Faber and Faber
    >> are allegedly going to have a chat with him to determine just why he
    >> thinks he may break the law in such a fashion. Only time will tell I
    >> suppose.

    >
    > So where's Roy's irc channel? How do get on it? Or is it an
    > invitation-only kinda thing?
    >
    > Oh, and how do you know this excerpt from an irc log is genuine?


    Just read the logs on Roy's BN site.
    The comments don't look like they were taken out of context because that
    person is known to have several nyms on Slashdot and here he admits it.

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
    Please Visit www.linsux.org

  13. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:55:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    > After takin' a swig o' grog, Andrew Halliwell belched out
    > this bit o' wisdom:
    >
    >> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
    >>> He did a selective snipping work to present this out of context and daemonise.

    >>
    >> Of course he did. We wouldn't expect any different from the likes of hardon.

    >
    > I wonder who Hadron's buddy was who sent him the revelatory e-mail.
    >
    > And why that person considered Hadron to be someone with a
    > "need-to-know".
    >
    > Could it be that Hadron is part of a "cabal" even more sinister than the
    > Linux "cabal"? Could it be that Hadron has his own "master" for whom he
    > is a "lap dog"? Or is Hadron actually in the "master" hierarchy, with
    > his own "minions" and "lap dogs" "feeding" him "doggie-drops" of
    > "intelligence", which Hadron then feeds to his "master"? And where does
    > "Moshe" fit in the "hierarchy"? Did "he" send Hadron this mysterious
    > e-mail, with a "command" to "forward it to COLA"? "We must neutralize
    > this Roy Schestowitz... persona ... and render him ineffective, perhaps
    > even turn him to our purpose. Muuuuuah-ha-ha-ha-ha."
    >
    >


    Maybe the thread should be retitled: Hardon Quack & his loony email army! ;-)


  14. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

    > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:38:21 +0100, Firey Bird wrote:
    >
    >> Hadron wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> A couple of Roy's henchmen are so sickened by the way he has gone to the
    >>> darkside they have decided to stop the rot. Check out this little
    >>> snippet which was emailed to me recently. The chat happened on Roy's IRC
    >>> channel. A big thank you to **** for the email.
    >>>
    >>> ,----
    >>>| if you really want to scare Microsoft, you have to build a
    >>>| troll "Trolls4Hire"
    >>>|
    >>>| twitter has already pulled a nasty one with nyms in
    >>>| order to fight shills nyms in /. we would need patent trolls
    >>>| with an itch to scratch (ie, a score to settle)... lol
    >>>| Avistar? It's not a troll, but it could become one.
    >>> `----
    >>>
    >>> So, who will continue to side with Roy as he moans about nyms and
    >>> trolls now?
    >>>
    >>> Well, don't blub. You were warned that he was in it for himself and no
    >>> one else and that he would stop at nothing to generate links.
    >>>
    >>> Unfortunately for him it would appear that a mere PhD Student is NOT
    >>> safe from prosecution for blatantly ignoring copyrights. Faber and Faber
    >>> are allegedly going to have a chat with him to determine just why he
    >>> thinks he may break the law in such a fashion. Only time will tell I
    >>> suppose.

    >>
    >> So where's Roy's irc channel? How do get on it? Or is it an
    >> invitation-only kinda thing?
    >>
    >> Oh, and how do you know this excerpt from an irc log is genuine?

    >
    > Just read the logs on Roy's BN site.
    > The comments don't look like they were taken out of context because that
    > person is known to have several nyms on Slashdot and here he admits it.
    >


    I have no idea what "Roy's BN site" is. I don't read anything by Roy, I
    filter him out. Not that I don't like him, I just find his news postings a
    little too much.

  15. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

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    ____/ William Poaster on Wednesday 08 October 2008 17:41 : \____

    > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:55:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >
    >> After takin' a swig o' grog, Andrew Halliwell belched out
    >> this bit o' wisdom:
    >>
    >>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
    >>>> He did a selective snipping work to present this out of context and
    >>>> daemonise.
    >>>
    >>> Of course he did. We wouldn't expect any different from the likes of
    >>> hardon.

    >>
    >> I wonder who Hadron's buddy was who sent him the revelatory e-mail.
    >>
    >> And why that person considered Hadron to be someone with a
    >> "need-to-know".
    >>
    >> Could it be that Hadron is part of a "cabal" even more sinister than the
    >> Linux "cabal"? Could it be that Hadron has his own "master" for whom he
    >> is a "lap dog"? Or is Hadron actually in the "master" hierarchy, with
    >> his own "minions" and "lap dogs" "feeding" him "doggie-drops" of
    >> "intelligence", which Hadron then feeds to his "master"? And where does
    >> "Moshe" fit in the "hierarchy"? Did "he" send Hadron this mysterious
    >> e-mail, with a "command" to "forward it to COLA"? "We must neutralize
    >> this Roy Schestowitz... persona ... and render him ineffective, perhaps
    >> even turn him to our purpose. Muuuuuah-ha-ha-ha-ha."
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Maybe the thread should be retitled: Hardon Quack & his loony email army! ;-)


    There is a Microsoft consultant who goes by the name 'cj' and always lurks in
    the IRC channel. He's trying to do the "let's engage in a conversation"
    routine and informs other people in the world of Mono and Microsoft('s open
    source hijack) what's happening, based on his actions.

    Microsoft has an extensive network of that type of s*it.

    Brcve Perens, a few days ago:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=985543&cid=25267133

    "[J]ust about every PR firm offers to help “manage the perception of your
    company in online communities” these days. What do you think that means?
    Astroturfing Slashdot, Youtube, etc. In my various manangement positions it’s
    been offered to me. Indeed, some of the companies offer to create negative
    publicity for your competition that way - HP had a publicity firm for its
    Linux activities that told us it would do that when we wanted. I never asked
    them to do so and hope nobody else did either.

    This stuff is just standard these days. You’ve got to expect it."

    He also wrote:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=985543&cid=25256649

    I think mostly they’d like to dilute “Open Source” to mean any code with
    source code. This is important to them because it’s the rights connected to
    Open Source that scare Microsoft (and others). If you can call it Open Source
    when there isn’t even the right to compile the code, or to use the information
    you get from reading it, customers don’t have a reason to ask for it any
    longer.

    Their publicity agencies are here on Slashdot pumping that angle every day.


    Just KF the Microsoft shills. They are a waste of time, they should be in jail,
    but they only commit a crime if they operate from the EU, if I understand the
    new law correctly.

    - --
    ~~ Best of wishes

    Roy S. Schestowitz | "These characters were randomly picked"
    http://Schestowitz.com | RHAT Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
    20:05:01 up 2 days, 8:56, 1 user, load average: 0.48, 0.72, 0.78
    http://iuron.com - Open Source knowledge engine project
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  16. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out
    this bit o' wisdom:

    > Just KF the Microsoft shills. They are a waste of time, they should be in jail,


    Nah, just the sanitarium, making daisy chains.

    > but they only commit a crime if they operate from the EU, if I understand the
    > new law correctly.


    Sounds rather totalitarian, to me.

    --
    I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the demigodic party.
    -- Dennis Ritchie

  17. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:09:30 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

    > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    > Hash: SHA1
    >
    > ____/ William Poaster on Wednesday 08 October 2008 17:41 : \____
    >
    >> On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:55:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >>
    >>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Andrew Halliwell belched out
    >>> this bit o' wisdom:
    >>>
    >>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
    >>>>> He did a selective snipping work to present this out of context and
    >>>>> daemonise.
    >>>>
    >>>> Of course he did. We wouldn't expect any different from the likes of
    >>>> hardon.
    >>>
    >>> I wonder who Hadron's buddy was who sent him the revelatory e-mail.
    >>>
    >>> And why that person considered Hadron to be someone with a
    >>> "need-to-know".
    >>>
    >>> Could it be that Hadron is part of a "cabal" even more sinister than the
    >>> Linux "cabal"? Could it be that Hadron has his own "master" for whom he
    >>> is a "lap dog"? Or is Hadron actually in the "master" hierarchy, with
    >>> his own "minions" and "lap dogs" "feeding" him "doggie-drops" of
    >>> "intelligence", which Hadron then feeds to his "master"? And where does
    >>> "Moshe" fit in the "hierarchy"? Did "he" send Hadron this mysterious
    >>> e-mail, with a "command" to "forward it to COLA"? "We must neutralize
    >>> this Roy Schestowitz... persona ... and render him ineffective, perhaps
    >>> even turn him to our purpose. Muuuuuah-ha-ha-ha-ha."
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Maybe the thread should be retitled: Hardon Quack & his loony email army! ;-)

    >
    > There is a Microsoft consultant who goes by the name 'cj' and always lurks in
    > the IRC channel. He's trying to do the "let's engage in a conversation"
    > routine and informs other people in the world of Mono and Microsoft('s open
    > source hijack) what's happening, based on his actions.


    Yes, I know about the 'cj' shill.

    > Microsoft has an extensive network of that type of s*it.
    >
    > Brcve Perens, a few days ago:
    >
    > http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=985543&cid=25267133
    >
    > "[J]ust about every PR firm offers to help manage the perception of your
    > company in online communities these days. What do you think that means?
    > Astroturfing Slashdot, Youtube, etc. In my various manangement positions its
    > been offered to me. Indeed, some of the companies offer to create negative
    > publicity for your competition that way - HP had a publicity firm for its
    > Linux activities that told us it would do that when we wanted. I never asked
    > them to do so and hope nobody else did either.
    >
    > This stuff is just standard these days. Youve got to expect it."
    >
    > He also wrote:
    >
    > http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=985543&cid=25256649
    >
    > I think mostly theyd like to dilute Open Source to mean any code with
    > source code. This is important to them because its the rights connected to
    > Open Source that scare Microsoft (and others). If you can call it Open Source
    > when there isnt even the right to compile the code, or to use the information
    > you get from reading it, customers dont have a reason to ask for it any
    > longer.
    >
    > Their publicity agencies are here on Slashdot pumping that angle every day.
    >
    >
    > Just KF the Microsoft shills. They are a waste of time, they should be in jail,
    > but they only commit a crime if they operate from the EU, if I understand the
    > new law correctly.


    I believe that is correct.

    > - --
    > ~~ Best of wishes
    >
    > Roy S. Schestowitz | "These characters were randomly picked"
    > http://Schestowitz.com | RHAT Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
    > 20:05:01 up 2 days, 8:56, 1 user, load average: 0.48, 0.72, 0.78
    > http://iuron.com - Open Source knowledge engine project
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  18. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:07:25 +0100, William Poaster wrote:

    > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:09:30 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
    >
    >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    >> Hash: SHA1
    >>
    >> ____/ William Poaster on Wednesday 08 October 2008 17:41 : \____
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:55:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Andrew Halliwell belched out
    >>>> this bit o' wisdom:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
    >>>>>> He did a selective snipping work to present this out of context and
    >>>>>> daemonise.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Of course he did. We wouldn't expect any different from the likes of
    >>>>> hardon.
    >>>>
    >>>> I wonder who Hadron's buddy was who sent him the revelatory e-mail.
    >>>>
    >>>> And why that person considered Hadron to be someone with a
    >>>> "need-to-know".
    >>>>
    >>>> Could it be that Hadron is part of a "cabal" even more sinister than the
    >>>> Linux "cabal"? Could it be that Hadron has his own "master" for whom he
    >>>> is a "lap dog"? Or is Hadron actually in the "master" hierarchy, with
    >>>> his own "minions" and "lap dogs" "feeding" him "doggie-drops" of
    >>>> "intelligence", which Hadron then feeds to his "master"? And where does
    >>>> "Moshe" fit in the "hierarchy"? Did "he" send Hadron this mysterious
    >>>> e-mail, with a "command" to "forward it to COLA"? "We must neutralize
    >>>> this Roy Schestowitz... persona ... and render him ineffective, perhaps
    >>>> even turn him to our purpose. Muuuuuah-ha-ha-ha-ha."
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Maybe the thread should be retitled: Hardon Quack & his loony email army! ;-)

    >>
    >> There is a Microsoft consultant who goes by the name 'cj' and always lurks in
    >> the IRC channel. He's trying to do the "let's engage in a conversation"
    >> routine and informs other people in the world of Mono and Microsoft('s open
    >> source hijack) what's happening, based on his actions.

    >
    > Yes, I know about the 'cj' shill.


    Is he the same as the "twitter" shill ?

    From bn:

    After some thought, I've decided to keep using multiple accounts
    on Slashdot. Trolls have gamed the system to strip me of my rights and
    disrupt conversation. I will use the tools I have available to keep my
    rights and continue to share.
    Let's not talk about that any more, it is a waste of time.
    It is better to talk about how evil it is to cooperate with M$.
    twitter: you make the /. zoo more of a zoo.
    You put a show on both sides and make it a mockery of the
    site.

    Spin it anyway you like but the fact is, the Linux loonies have been
    shilling on digg, COLA, Slashdot and other places for years.




    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
    Please Visit www.linsux.org

  19. Re: Linux loonies build a nym army.

    On Oct 8, 9:43*pm, "Moshe Goldfarb." wrote:
    > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:07:25 +0100, William Poaster wrote:
    > > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:09:30 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

    >
    > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    > >> Hash: SHA1

    >
    > >> ____/ William Poaster on Wednesday 08 October 2008 17:41 : \____

    >
    > >>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:55:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    >
    > >>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Andrew Halliwell belched out
    > >>>> * this bit o' wisdom:

    >
    > >>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
    > >>>>>> He did a selective snipping work to present this out of context and
    > >>>>>> daemonise.

    >
    > >>>>> Of course he did. We wouldn't expect any different from the likes of
    > >>>>> hardon.

    >
    > >>>> I wonder who Hadron's buddy was who sent him the revelatory e-mail.

    >
    > >>>> And why that person considered Hadron to be someone with a
    > >>>> "need-to-know".

    >
    > >>>> Could it be that Hadron is part of a "cabal" even more sinister thanthe
    > >>>> Linux "cabal"? *Could it be that Hadron has his own "master" for whom he
    > >>>> is a "lap dog"? *Or is Hadron actually in the "master" hierarchy, with
    > >>>> his own "minions" and "lap dogs" "feeding" him "doggie-drops" of
    > >>>> "intelligence", which Hadron then feeds to his "master"? *And where does
    > >>>> "Moshe" fit in the "hierarchy"? *Did "he" send Hadron this mysterious
    > >>>> e-mail, with a "command" to "forward it to COLA"? *"We must neutralize
    > >>>> this Roy Schestowitz... persona ... and render him ineffective, perhaps
    > >>>> even turn him to our purpose. * Muuuuuah-ha-ha-ha-ha."

    >
    > >>>>

    >
    > >>> Maybe the thread should be retitled: Hardon Quack & his loony email army! ;-)

    >
    > >> There is a Microsoft consultant who goes by the name 'cj' and always lurks in
    > >> the IRC channel. He's trying to do the "let's engage in a conversation"
    > >> routine and informs other people in the world of Mono and Microsoft('sopen
    > >> source hijack) what's happening, based on his actions.

    >
    > > Yes, I know about the 'cj' shill.

    >
    > Is he the same as the "twitter" shill *?
    >
    > From bn:
    >
    > After some thought, I've decided to keep using multiple accounts
    > on Slashdot. *Trolls have gamed the system to strip me of my rights and
    > disrupt conversation. I will use the tools I have available to keep my
    > rights and continue to share.
    > Let's not talk about that any more, it is a waste of time.
    > It is better to talk about how evil it is to cooperate with M$.
    > twitter: you make the /. zoo more of a zoo.
    > You put a show on both sides and make it a mockery of the
    > site.
    >
    > Spin it anyway you like but the fact is, the Linux loonies have been
    > shilling on digg, COLA, Slashdot and other places for years.
    >


    twitter==Roy Culley

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