Ballmer: iPhone will lose to Windows within 5 years

<Quote>
According to Ballmer, [Nokia, RIM, Apple] all need to make way for
Windows Mobile so that Microsoft can monopolize smartphones the same
way that it monopolized PCs in the 90s. Rather than elucidating a
genius strategy for making progress among mobile devices, Ballmer was
simply decreeing that Microsoft would win because it wants to win.
[The history...]

* [Microsoft] failed to take on the iPod with both the
PlaysForSure software platform and its own integrated Zune hardware.
* Windows Mobile has actually lost market share dramatically in
the smartphone market, from 23% in 2004 to 12% today. It has no
official plans for its own integrated phone.
* Even PC sales are falling from Microsoft’s grasp, with Apple
grabbing an increasingly large chunk of high growth laptop sales: 20%
of retail US unit sales and a whopping 35% dollar share of that market
now belong to Apple. Microsoft has no plans outlined for an integrated
PC.
* In video games, Microsoft has rapidly fallen from its early head
start with the integrated Xbox 360. Conversely it has no plans to
license the Xbox to commodity hardware partners.

....The problem is that Windows Mobile just isn’t very good. The
desktop PC Windows wasn’t very good in 1990 either, but nobody offered
a strong competitor that was ready to compete with it and broadly
available.

Microsoft delivered an equally bad product for
smartphones...Smartphones with a bad user interface, lethargic
performance, security holes, crashing instability, and long boot times
can’t be rationalized around with a Ctl Alt Del or fed RAM until they
work acceptably.

If Apple and Microsoft were the only two major platforms competing in
the smartphone arena, we may have had the opportunity to observe
another PlaysForSure vs iPod unfold. However, this time around
Microsoft is also competing against two major alternatives: the soon
to be open sourced Symbian and Google’s Android, both of which are
gunning to be the next “DOS” for smartphones.

Apple will be unique in offering the differentiation of tight
integration versus Android, Symbian, and Windows Mobile, while Windows
Mobile will be unique in offering the only platform partners have to
pay direct licensing fees to use. It will also be unique in offering a
proprietary web browser. The other three will be pushing a WebKit
based browser, meaning that the mobile world’s contributions will go
into maintaining WebKit’s lead as the superior mobile browser engine.
No wonder Microsoft hates open source....

The impact [of iPhone] on Mac sales is already clearly visible. As
Apple ramps up iPhone sales internationally and builds out retail
stores in the wake of its sales, Mac hardware will also force its way
into the cracks of the Windows PC monopoly and expand to break open
the computing landscape. Thanks to the web and a new push to create
platform-agnostic web apps led in part by Google, the barriers imposed
by Microsoft to stifle competition and technological progress are
rapidly becoming irrelevant in desktop computing.

....all of the top PC manufacturers are pushing back on Vista and
investigating alternatives, with Acer pioneering Linux sales, Dell
experimenting with Linux-based netbooks, and HP reportedly working to
deliver its own OS, like a Linux variant. PC makers owe no loyalty to
the company that has been taxing their performance with licensing
fees. The only way they can compete for hardware sales is to
differentiate themselves, something Windows 7 won’t help them do.
</Quote>

[url]http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/10/05/myth-8-iphone-will-lose-out-to-steve-ballmers-windows-mobile-7-in-2010/#more-2698[/url]

Mark your calendars. Five years. Windows 7 will save us. No more
Nokia, RIM, iPhone. Nossiree! We'll all be paying Windows Mobile
customers, happily surfing the web with Internet Explorer!! No more
Google either!! We'll get all we need from Microsoft Search!!
Ballmer is going to pay whatever it takes to make sure that will
happen! Don't you worry!!

<nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
news:2ceb07da-9e59-4a31-870c-dafb5acc83f8@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
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> * In video games, Microsoft has rapidly fallen from its early head
> start with the integrated Xbox 360. Conversely it has no plans to
> license the Xbox to commodity hardware partners.[/color]


Don't let facts get in your way!

[url]http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20081003/tc_nm/us_microsoft_sony_game[/url]

Microsoft Xbox 360 outsells PS3 in Japan in Sept (Reuters)
a.. Posted on Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:32AM EDT
b..
c..

On 2008-10-06, [email]nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu[/email] <nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu> claimed:[color=blue]
><Quote>
> According to Ballmer, [Nokia, RIM, Apple] all need to make way for
> Windows Mobile so that Microsoft can monopolize smartphones the same
> way that it monopolized PCs in the 90s. Rather than elucidating a
> genius strategy for making progress among mobile devices, Ballmer was
> simply decreeing that Microsoft would win because it wants to win.
> [The history...][/color]
[color=blue]
></Quote>
>
> [url]http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/10/05/myth-8-iphone-will-lose-out-to-steve-ballmers-windows-mobile-7-in-2010/#more-2698[/url]
>
> Mark your calendars. Five years. Windows 7 will save us. No more
> Nokia, RIM, iPhone. Nossiree! We'll all be paying Windows Mobile
> customers, happily surfing the web with Internet Explorer!! No more
> Google either!! We'll get all we need from Microsoft Search!!
> Ballmer is going to pay whatever it takes to make sure that will
> happen! Don't you worry!![/color]

I had to look at the calendar to make sure it wasn't April 1st. Maybe
Fester is starting a new trend, giving us a new day to celebrate on our
calendars every year: Microsoft the Fool Day.

--
Any dimwit can run Windows Vista or XP. And they usually do.

After takin' a swig o' grog, Ezekiel belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
[color=blue]
> <nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
> news:2ceb07da-9e59-4a31-870c-dafb5acc83f8@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>[color=green]
>> * In video games, Microsoft has rapidly fallen from its early head
>> start with the integrated Xbox 360. Conversely it has no plans to
>> license the Xbox to commodity hardware partners.[/color]
>
> Don't let facts get in your way!
>
> [url]http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20081003/tc_nm/us_microsoft_sony_game[/url]
>
> Microsoft Xbox 360 outsells PS3 in Japan in Sept (Reuters)
> a.. Posted on Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:32AM EDT[/color]

In a bid to lift sales, Microsoft on September 11 cut the price of
the Xbox 360 Arcade, which comes without a hard disk drive, by 8,000
yen ($76) to 19,800 yen. It also lowered the price of the high-end
Elite model by 8,000 yen to 39,800 yen.

Just another little fact from that link.

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And I no more believe Topper was really blind than I believe he had eyes
in his boots. My opinion is, that it was a done thing between him and
Scrooge's nephew; and that the Ghost of Christmas Present knew it. The
way he went after that plump sister in the lace tucker, was an outrage
on the credulity of human nature.

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____/ [email]nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu[/email] on Monday 06 October 2008 20:00 : \____
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>[/color]
[url]http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/10/05/myth-8-iphone-will-lose-out-to-steve-ballmers-windows-mobile-7-in-2010/#more-2698[/url][color=blue]
>
> Mark your calendars. Â*Five years. Â*Windows 7 will save us. Â*No more
> Nokia, RIM, iPhone. Â*Nossiree! Â* We'll all be paying Windows Mobile
> customers, happily surfing the web with Internet Explorer!! Â*No more
> Google either!! Â*We'll get all we need from Microsoft Search!!
> Ballmer is going to pay whatever it takes to make sure that will
> happen! Â* Don't you worry!![/color]

How long has Windows Mobile been out for? Where is it now? Did it ever make
any /profit/?

Windows Mobile is already known to be a /failure/ of Microsoft, only matched by
junk like Zune and XBox. What can change things around now? A low-fat Vista
derivative for phones?

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~~ Best of wishes

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____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Monday 06 October 2008 20:19 : \____
[color=blue]
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Ezekiel belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>[color=green]
>> <nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
>> news:2ceb07da-9e59-4a31-870c-dafb5acc83f8@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> * In video games, Microsoft has rapidly fallen from its early head
>>> start with the integrated Xbox 360. Conversely it has no plans to
>>> license the Xbox to commodity hardware partners.[/color]
>>
>> Don't let facts get in your way!
>>
>> [url]http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20081003/tc_nm/us_microsoft_sony_game[/url]
>>
>> Microsoft Xbox 360 outsells PS3 in Japan in Sept (Reuters)
>> a.. Posted on Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:32AM EDT[/color]
>
> In a bid to lift sales, Microsoft on September 11 cut the price of
> the Xbox 360 Arcade, which comes without a hard disk drive, by 8,000
> yen ($76) to 19,800 yen. It also lowered the price of the high-end
> Elite model by 8,000 yen to 39,800 yen.
>
> Just another little fact from that link.[/color]

"Hey, let's make a huge price cut, advertise it widely, then measure the sales
in a timeframe of one week/month and bombard journalists in a
denial-of-service-style attack until they issue some distasteful coverage."

*yawn*

Same 'ol Softie...

- --
~~ Best of wishes

Roy S. Schestowitz | How I learned to stop worrying and love GNU/Linux
[url]http://Schestowitz.com[/url] | RHAT Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
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> ____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Monday 06 October 2008 20:19 : \____
>[color=green]
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Ezekiel belched out
>> this bit o' wisdom:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> <nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:2ceb07da-9e59-4a31-870c-dafb5acc83f8@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> * In video games, Microsoft has rapidly fallen from its early head
>>>> start with the integrated Xbox 360. Conversely it has no plans to
>>>> license the Xbox to commodity hardware partners.
>>>
>>> Don't let facts get in your way!
>>>
>>> [url]http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20081003/tc_nm/us_microsoft_sony_game[/url]
>>>
>>> Microsoft Xbox 360 outsells PS3 in Japan in Sept (Reuters)
>>> a.. Posted on Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:32AM EDT[/color]
>>
>> In a bid to lift sales, Microsoft on September 11 cut the price of
>> the Xbox 360 Arcade, which comes without a hard disk drive, by 8,000
>> yen ($76) to 19,800 yen. It also lowered the price of the high-end
>> Elite model by 8,000 yen to 39,800 yen.
>>
>> Just another little fact from that link.[/color]
>
> "Hey, let's make a huge price cut, advertise it widely, then measure the
> sales
> in a timeframe of one week/month and bombard journalists in a
> denial-of-service-style attack until they issue some distasteful
> coverage."
>
> *yawn*
>
> Same 'ol Softie...
>[/color]

What now price cuts are not against the rules? The problem is the Wii still
outsells the PS3, most of the time anyway, so I guess they are fighting for
number two. My friend loves the slow ass downloads and the slow ass
installs on the PS3, compared the XBox 360 and the Wii.

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:24:19 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

[color=blue]
> How long has Windows Mobile been out for? Where is it now? Did it ever make
> any /profit/?[/color]
How long has Linux been around?
17 years now?

Why such a miniscule market share for something that is free?

Clue: When you have a product that is free and that virtually nobody wants
to use, then you have one serious problem on your hands.

Desktop Linux is that product and no amount of squawking from your
propaganda mill will change that Schestowitz.



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On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:00:20 -0700 (PDT), [email]nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu[/email] <nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu> wrote:[color=blue]
><Quote>
>According to Ballmer, [Nokia, RIM, Apple] all need to make way for
>Windows Mobile so that Microsoft can monopolize smartphones the same
>way that it monopolized PCs in the 90s. Rather than elucidating a
>genius strategy for making progress among mobile devices, Ballmer was
>simply decreeing that Microsoft would win because it wants to win.
>[The history...][/color]


Like the zune has replaced the ipod?
<snicker>

After takin' a swig o' grog, Ezekiel belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
[color=blue]
> "Hadron" <hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote in message
>[color=green]
>> You are getting worse than Linonut at telling lies.[/color][/color]

I never lie.

Ever.

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"Chris Ahlstrom" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
news:4GQGk.59613$XB4.12320@bignews9.bellsouth.net...[color=blue]
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Ezekiel belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>[color=green]
>> "Hadron" <hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>[color=darkred]
>>> You are getting worse than Linonut at telling lies.[/color][/color]
>
> I never lie.
>
> Ever.[/color]

And I never say never.

[color=blue]
> --
> Quick, sing me the BUDAPEST NATIONAL ANTHEM!![/color]

"Ezekiel" <zeke@nowhere.com> writes:
[color=blue]
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
> news:4GQGk.59613$XB4.12320@bignews9.bellsouth.net...[color=green]
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Ezekiel belched out
>> this bit o' wisdom:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Hadron" <hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> You are getting worse than Linonut at telling lies.[/color]
>>
>> I never lie.
>>
>> Ever.[/color]
>
> And I never say never.[/color]

Liarnut has been caught out so many times pretending to be familiar with
very techy things and proven to be clueless that he simply must have been
telling lies.

--
"His asshole is so reamed out he has room for an oxygen
tank, too."
-- Tattoo Vampire loooking for new accomodation in comp.os.linux.advocacy

After takin' a swig o' grog, Ezekiel belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
[color=blue]
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
> news:4GQGk.59613$XB4.12320@bignews9.bellsouth.net...[color=green]
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Ezekiel belched out
>> this bit o' wisdom:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Hadron" <hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> You are getting worse than Linonut at telling lies.[/color]
>>
>> I never lie.
>>
>> Ever.[/color]
>
> And I never say never.[/color]

So you lie, but I don't!

Seriously, I learned long ago to suck it up and take the punishment.
It's the easiest course in the long run.

I don't even like making mistakes (though I do make them).

--
Laugh and the world laughs with you, snore and you sleep alone.

[email]nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
> I forgot to add, funding "research" to propagate their Big Lies,
> passing wads of cash under the table to new SCOs and patent trolls to
> make trouble for Linux, etc etc.[/color]

Left side of nessuno's mouth: "I went with Linux in 1997 and never looked
back"

Right side of nessuno's mouth: Microsoft is all I can think and talk about
on comp.os.linux.advocacy.