After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

> Linux turns 17
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT, was the subject of Linus Benedict
>| Torvalds post to comp.os.minix on October 5, 1991 -- seventeen years ago
>| today.
> `----
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-turns-17

17 years, and still only at 1% .

Imagine that! A "hobbyist" project surviving 17 years under that shadow
of Mordorsoft.

Not only surviving... flourishing.

--
The way to a man's stomach is through his esophagus.

On 2008-10-06, Chris Ahlstrom claimed:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Linux turns 17
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT, was the subject of Linus Benedict
>>| Torvalds post to comp.os.minix on October 5, 1991 -- seventeen years ago
>>| today.
>> `----
>>
>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-turns-17
>
> 17 years, and still only at 1% .
>
> Imagine that! A "hobbyist" project surviving 17 years under that shadow
> of Mordorsoft.
>
> Not only surviving... flourishing.

And at 17, the little boy, linux, has grown up and is preparing to put
grandpa Windows into a home.

--
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____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Monday 06 October 2008 15:19 : \____

> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Linux turns 17
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT, was the subject of Linus
>>| Benedict Torvalds post to comp.os.minix on October 5, 1991 -- seventeen
>>| years ago today.
>> `----
>>
>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-turns-17
>
> 17 years, and still only at 1% .
>
> Imagine that! A "hobbyist" project surviving 17 years under that shadow
> of Mordorsoft.
>
> Not only surviving... flourishing.

One percent? Only if you listen to lietistics and ignore much of the population
you have for an analysis...

To repeat some things from earlier...

Desktop (from the Microsoft's partner group):

Netbooks A Linux Stronghold?

,----[ Quote ]
| Windows-powered personal computers account for more than 90% of unit sales,.
| Linux 4%, Gartner says.
`---- Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*

http://ca.biz.yahoo.com/ibd/080807/tech.html?.v=1


Server (from the horse's mouth):

Ballmer Still Searching for an Answer to Google

,----[ Quote ]
| "Forty percent of servers run Windows, 60 percent run Linux," he said. "How
| Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| are we doing? Forty is less than 60, so I don't like it. ... We have some
| work to do."
`----

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...to_google.html


HPC (exhaustive analysis by Top500):

Linux still super in Top500

,----[ Quote ]
| In the June 2008 Top500 list, Linux still lives large with a role in 92% of
| systems (It is the only OS for 85.4%, but when considering all distributions
| (SUSE, Red Hat, CentOS, and general ‘Linux,’ as well as mixed uses that
| include Linux, I figure the share is more like the 92%).
| Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*^^^
`----

http://blogs.the451group.com/opensou...per-in-top500/


Embedded (study):

Embedded Linux research report ships

,----[ Quote ]
| EDC noted that some 40 percent of the survey's 500 respondents were targeting
| ^^^^^^^^^^
| embedded Linux.
|
| [...]
|
| Also in the earlier reports, Andrews observed that the need for RTOS source
| code was "one of the reasons that proprietary RTOSes created in-house for a
| specific system have long been popular, and now it's a primary motivating
| factor in the adoption of Embedded Linux."
|
| The now completed survey results are said to include "expert analysis" from
| Ann Thryft, a 20-year industry veteran. The report includes chapters on
| platforms, processors, tools, languages, security, target devices, mobile
| development, and of course, Linux.
`----

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7613839836.html


Another forgotten Fact of life:

,----[ Quote ]
| Around 98% of the world's CPUs manufactured are used in embedded systems.
`----

http://www.digitaltippingpoint.com/?q=node/132


Four billion embedded systems shipped in '06

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3686249103.html


Why Ubuntu on ARM Could be a Rich Seam

,----[ Quote ]
| ARM today announced that the total number of processors shipped by its
| Partners has exceeded ten billion.
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
| [...]
|
| A Nokia-sponsored project is porting Ubuntu Linux to the ARM architecture.
`----

http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/20...rich-seam.html


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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chris Ahlstrom

wrote
on Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:19:35 -0400
:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Linux turns 17
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT, was the
>>| subject of Linus Benedict Torvalds post to
>>| comp.os.minix on October 5, 1991 -- seventeen
>>| years ago today.
>> `----
>>
>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-turns-17
>
> 17 years, and still only at 1% .
>
> Imagine that! A "hobbyist" project surviving 17 years under that shadow
> of Mordorsoft.
>
> Not only surviving... flourishing.
>

It's not dead; I'll give it that (and I hope it never
dies; AmigaOS is effectively out of the picture, for
example). Also, Linux is rather popular with server and
to a lesser extent mobiles (Symbian still being tops in
that department).

But Windows 95 had a far faster adoption rate, in 1995 or
thereabouts. Of course it had a little help from MS-DOS.
I'll admit to wondering as to Windows' rate of adoption
in the 1985 timeframe, when it first came out.

--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
Murphy was an optimist.
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After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chris Ahlstrom
>
>>
>> Imagine that! A "hobbyist" project surviving 17 years under that shadow
>> of Mordorsoft.
>>
>> Not only surviving... flourishing.
>
> It's not dead; I'll give it that (and I hope it never
> dies; AmigaOS is effectively out of the picture, for
> example). Also, Linux is rather popular with server and
> to a lesser extent mobiles (Symbian still being tops in
> that department).
>
> But Windows 95 had a far faster adoption rate, in 1995 or
> thereabouts. Of course it had a little help from MS-DOS.

And from a marketing campaign blitz by Microsoft.

> I'll admit to wondering as to Windows' rate of adoption
> in the 1985 timeframe, when it first came out.

Windows was pure crap until version 3. Right about when Microsoft stuck
a shiv in IBM's back.

--
The essential ideas of Algol 68 were that the whole language should be
precisely defined and that all the pieces should fit together smoothly.
The basic idea behind Pascal was that it didn't matter how vague the
language specification was (it took *years* to clarify) or how many rough
edges there were, as long as the CDC Pascal compiler was fast.
-- Richard A. O'Keefe

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chris Ahlstrom

wrote
on Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:18:33 -0400
:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chris Ahlstrom
>>
>>>
>>> Imagine that! A "hobbyist" project surviving 17 years under that shadow
>>> of Mordorsoft.
>>>
>>> Not only surviving... flourishing.
>>
>> It's not dead; I'll give it that (and I hope it never
>> dies; AmigaOS is effectively out of the picture, for
>> example). Also, Linux is rather popular with server and
>> to a lesser extent mobiles (Symbian still being tops in
>> that department).
>>
>> But Windows 95 had a far faster adoption rate, in 1995 or
>> thereabouts. Of course it had a little help from MS-DOS.
>
> And from a marketing campaign blitz by Microsoft.

Hmm...was that the flitty butterfly campaign? They run
together after awhile. ;-) But you're right; they had
to have oodles of marketing budget to spend on the song
"Start Me Up (You Make a Grown Man Cry)"...

What song would Linux adopt? An interesting question.
I'm not sure I like the concept espoused in the last post
at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179874 , funny
as it otherwise is (it's the best I can do when searching
for the Tux image stomping on the Redmond campus).

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

(Not that NT/XP's adoption rate in the server realm
is anywhere near to warm, apparently, though Microsoft
and GoDaddy have been playing some interesting tricks
in that area.)

>
>> I'll admit to wondering as to Windows' rate of adoption
>> in the 1985 timeframe, when it first came out.
>
> Windows was pure crap until version 3. Right about when
> Microsoft stuck a shiv in IBM's back.
>

Microsoft seems to have a lot of practice doing that:

- That AARD code in the 3.10 beta, which was disabled
(but not removed!) in the final product. This was
apparently in 1991.

- OS/who? Apparently the initial plan was for IBM
and Microsoft to offer NT to the public, but
Windows 3.0 took off like a rocket. Microsoft
saw an opportunity and jumped, breaking away from
IBM to take all the marbles for themselves.

- Internet Exploder, erm, Explorer. 2 was horrid.
3 was terrible. 4 was somewhat usable (better than
Netscape, perhaps; I don't remember now), and usurped
Netscape, which died, with Mozilla rising like a phoenix
from the ashes -- or Godzilla from the waters of a
conveniently-located bay, perhaps -- and now enjoying
anything from a 15% to 30% browser share. Even
Microsoft has abandoned its own browser:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mozil...E7-60864.shtml
(Wow.)

[For clarification purposes: apparently a shiv or chiv is
an improvised knife or knife-like weapon; basically
it's anything sufficiently pointy, from a cloth-wrapped
glass shard, a razorblade in a toothbrush, a sharpened
spoon handle, or even a filed-off section of a pork bone.
Sounds very nasty, and of course shivs are popular among
prison inmates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_%28weapon%29
]

--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
Linux. Because Windows' Blue Screen Of Death is just
way too frightening to novice users.
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After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out
this bit o' wisdom:

> [For clarification purposes: apparently a shiv or chiv is
> an improvised knife or knife-like weapon; basically
> it's anything sufficiently pointy, from a cloth-wrapped
> glass shard, a razorblade in a toothbrush, a sharpened
> spoon handle, or even a filed-off section of a pork bone.
> Sounds very nasty, and of course shivs are popular among
> prison inmates.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_%28weapon%29

Shank you very much!

--
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:35:45 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


>> Microsoft also tried to bind the manufacturers with secrecy clauses.
>> Nothing sinister in that, says Microsoft's lawyer William Neukom.
>> [/quote]
>
> Apt name for that lawyer.
>

Yawwnnnn,.....

Dewey, Cheatem & Howe.


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