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  1. UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    Good day all.

    I have recently purchased (as in, Saturday) an Acer Aspire One. Just
    thought I'd toss a review your way.

    The unit I purchased was outfitted with 1GB of RAM and a 120GB HD. If I
    was paying attention, I probably would've not purchased the model with
    XP, but, c'est la vie. It looks very nice. I have the blue coloured one
    which is a very nice colour. My first impression is that the 8.9" screen
    is comfortable enough to use that I will be taking it on the road as my
    sole road machine (and believe me, with the way the airlines are about
    carry on, this is a godsend), but not large enough to replace my desktop
    screen or my office laptop. It's a UMPC, so I wouldn't expect it to
    replace either the desktop or office laptop. Having a 7" Eee 701, I will
    say that the 8.9" is a definite usability improvement, though you will
    find that some windows will not fit on the screen properly requiring an
    alt+mouse_click to move the rest of the window into view.

    The keyboard is something like 95% the size of a normal keyboard. This
    makes it comfortable enough to use on a regular basis and touch typists
    shouldn't have much of a problem with it. There are some keys that are
    sub-sized so that may cause an issue with some keypresses, but the
    alphanumeric keys are good. It also has a decent feel to it. One definite
    improvement over the Eee 701 is the postion of the shift key and the
    arrow cluster. it's normal. One beef I have is with everyone selling
    canadian multilingual keyboards. I really dislike how they move the
    backslash key next to the quote key and then make the enter key vertical.
    This isn't a complaint against Acer though as I'm betting there's some
    sort of import directive that requires it. I am sorely tempted to contact
    Acer for a replacement Keyboard with a more traditional US layout.

    I played around with the XP install, but that really didn't last long....
    about as long as it took to uninstall all the default crap and resize the
    partition so I could install XUbuntu.

    I installed XUbuntu 8.04.1 on the unit and I have to say that Firefox 3
    is quite excellent in full screen mode with the autohiding URL bar. I did
    use it for business purposes with XUbuntu 8.04.1 using it to show a
    customer some site survey photos so they could see the problems we were
    facing to build an RF link between two sites 2.1km apart. It is
    definitely an excellent tool for that sort of work.

    I was disappointed with the lack of support for the card readers. It
    appears that there is no driver available for the JMB38X chipset. I
    couldn't find any source code for the driver.

    The sound is, well.... bad. I don't expect much from the built-in
    speakers though. They're tiny, about the size of a nickel.

    At this point, I went to the computer store and purchased a 1GB DDR2
    DIMM for it as well as a new 250GB hard drive.

    I did install the default Linpus (as I write this), but it's
    disappointing. It requires too much work in my opinion to remove the
    kiosk UI and at this moment I'm still doing updates to get everything
    working (stuck on networking and they're doing repository updates right
    now which is messing things up for me). I'm not sure what these designers
    are thinking, but GNU/Linux is _so_ much more than just an embedded
    system. It is a full desktop system and I think that these companies are
    being exceedingly patronizing by only offering either XP or kiosk Linux.
    They should at the very least offer an installation CD that has a "full
    desktop" install option.

    So, it comes down to this. I do NOT recommend this unit at this time.
    It has a lot of potential. It's got good performance, a good screen, a
    good keyboard. It's a solid unit. I don't recommend it simply because of
    the card readers. Unless you are using XP or Acer's Linpus, the card
    readers don't work, and I think this is unacceptable in a device being
    sold as a Linux UMPC. When the driver code for the JMB38X is released and
    integrated into the vanilla linux kernel, then I'd definitely recommend
    it with a serving of Ubuntu 8.04.1 (or your distro of choice).

    At this point, I'll either continue with the FC8 derived Linpus, or
    just switch back to Ubuntu 8.04.1 and deal with the lack of internal card
    readers until some time that they are supported. This is something that I
    have high hopes will happen. In the interim, I'll just use a USB card
    reader. Small price really.

    I'd love to hear the hardware review on the MSI Wind and the Eee 1000H,
    so if you have one, please post your experience.

  2. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    alt wrote:
    > At this point, I'll either continue with the FC8 derived Linpus, or
    > just switch back to Ubuntu 8.04.1 and deal with the lack of internal card
    > readers until some time that they are supported. This is something that I
    > have high hopes will happen. In the interim, I'll just use a USB card
    > reader. Small price really.


    Why not just take the linpus kernel and modules...
    And copy them over to ubuntu?
    Best of both worlds then?
    such a task is simple in linux.
    --
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    | Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |

  3. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On Sep 24, 12:36 am, alt wrote:
    > Good day all.
    >
    > I have recently purchased (as in, Saturday) an Acer Aspire One. Just
    > thought I'd toss a review your way.
    >
    > The unit I purchased was outfitted with 1GB of RAM and a 120GB HD. If I
    > was paying attention, I probably would've not purchased the model with
    > XP, but, c'est la vie. It looks very nice. I have the blue coloured one
    > which is a very nice colour. My first impression is that the 8.9" screen
    > is comfortable enough to use that I will be taking it on the road as my
    > sole road machine (and believe me, with the way the airlines are about
    > carry on, this is a godsend), but not large enough to replace my desktop
    > screen or my office laptop. It's a UMPC, so I wouldn't expect it to
    > replace either the desktop or office laptop. Having a 7" Eee 701, I will
    > say that the 8.9" is a definite usability improvement, though you will
    > find that some windows will not fit on the screen properly requiring an
    > alt+mouse_click to move the rest of the window into view.
    >
    > The keyboard is something like 95% the size of a normal keyboard. This
    > makes it comfortable enough to use on a regular basis and touch typists
    > shouldn't have much of a problem with it. There are some keys that are
    > sub-sized so that may cause an issue with some keypresses, but the
    > alphanumeric keys are good. It also has a decent feel to it. One definite
    > improvement over the Eee 701 is the postion of the shift key and the
    > arrow cluster. it's normal. One beef I have is with everyone selling
    > canadian multilingual keyboards. I really dislike how they move the
    > backslash key next to the quote key and then make the enter key vertical.
    > This isn't a complaint against Acer though as I'm betting there's some
    > sort of import directive that requires it. I am sorely tempted to contact
    > Acer for a replacement Keyboard with a more traditional US layout.
    >
    > I played around with the XP install, but that really didn't last long....
    > about as long as it took to uninstall all the default crap and resize the
    > partition so I could install XUbuntu.
    >
    > I installed XUbuntu 8.04.1 on the unit and I have to say that Firefox 3
    > is quite excellent in full screen mode with the autohiding URL bar. I did
    > use it for business purposes with XUbuntu 8.04.1 using it to show a
    > customer some site survey photos so they could see the problems we were
    > facing to build an RF link between two sites 2.1km apart. It is
    > definitely an excellent tool for that sort of work.


    You mean it didn't crash within 10 minutes? No random freezes or lock-
    ups? And you were using Ubuntu 8.04? That's Hardy Heron, right?

    According to DFS, it has to freeze. You must be doing something wrong.

  4. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    "nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu" writes:

    > On Sep 24, 12:36 am, alt wrote:
    >> Good day all.
    >>
    >> I have recently purchased (as in, Saturday) an Acer Aspire One. Just
    >> thought I'd toss a review your way.
    >>
    >> The unit I purchased was outfitted with 1GB of RAM and a 120GB HD. If I
    >> was paying attention, I probably would've not purchased the model with
    >> XP, but, c'est la vie. It looks very nice. I have the blue coloured one
    >> which is a very nice colour. My first impression is that the 8.9" screen
    >> is comfortable enough to use that I will be taking it on the road as my
    >> sole road machine (and believe me, with the way the airlines are about
    >> carry on, this is a godsend), but not large enough to replace my desktop
    >> screen or my office laptop. It's a UMPC, so I wouldn't expect it to
    >> replace either the desktop or office laptop. Having a 7" Eee 701, I will
    >> say that the 8.9" is a definite usability improvement, though you will
    >> find that some windows will not fit on the screen properly requiring an
    >> alt+mouse_click to move the rest of the window into view.
    >>
    >> The keyboard is something like 95% the size of a normal keyboard. This
    >> makes it comfortable enough to use on a regular basis and touch typists
    >> shouldn't have much of a problem with it. There are some keys that are
    >> sub-sized so that may cause an issue with some keypresses, but the
    >> alphanumeric keys are good. It also has a decent feel to it. One definite
    >> improvement over the Eee 701 is the postion of the shift key and the
    >> arrow cluster. it's normal. One beef I have is with everyone selling
    >> canadian multilingual keyboards. I really dislike how they move the
    >> backslash key next to the quote key and then make the enter key vertical.
    >> This isn't a complaint against Acer though as I'm betting there's some
    >> sort of import directive that requires it. I am sorely tempted to contact
    >> Acer for a replacement Keyboard with a more traditional US layout.
    >>
    >> I played around with the XP install, but that really didn't last long....
    >> about as long as it took to uninstall all the default crap and resize the
    >> partition so I could install XUbuntu.
    >>
    >> I installed XUbuntu 8.04.1 on the unit and I have to say that Firefox 3
    >> is quite excellent in full screen mode with the autohiding URL bar. I did
    >> use it for business purposes with XUbuntu 8.04.1 using it to show a
    >> customer some site survey photos so they could see the problems we were
    >> facing to build an RF link between two sites 2.1km apart. It is
    >> definitely an excellent tool for that sort of work.

    >
    > You mean it didn't crash within 10 minutes? No random freezes or lock-
    > ups? And you were using Ubuntu 8.04? That's Hardy Heron, right?
    >
    > According to DFS, it has to freeze. You must be doing something
    > wrong.


    That's a lie. According to DFS a lot of people do have freezing
    issues. Which they do. Google it up.


    --
    "My college theater antics were the inspiration for Robin
    Williams' character on Mork & Mindy"
    -- Rex Ballard in comp.os.linux.advocacy

  5. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    Hadron wrote:

    > "nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu" writes:
    >


    < snip >

    >> You mean it didn't crash within 10 minutes? No random freezes or lock-
    >> ups? And you were using Ubuntu 8.04? That's Hardy Heron, right?
    >>
    >> According to DFS, it has to freeze. You must be doing something
    >> wrong.

    >
    > That's a lie. According to DFS a lot of people do have freezing
    > issues. Which they do. Google it up.
    >
    >


    And of those articles found, the ones from DumbFull**** present a sizeable
    percentage. And DFS is not even smart enough to use a correct search
    string. Maggots are smarter than that.
    And "according to DFS"? His "interpretation" of the posts is nearly as
    useless as one from Snot Glasser
    --
    Computers are like air conditioners -
    they stop working properly when you open Windows


  6. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    schreef in bericht
    news:f64f55ab-4d05-41bb-b1c9-88798b46287e@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
    > On Sep 24, 12:36 am, alt wrote:
    >> Good day all.
    >>
    >> I have recently purchased (as in, Saturday) an Acer Aspire One. Just
    >> thought I'd toss a review your way.
    >>
    >> The unit I purchased was outfitted with 1GB of RAM and a 120GB HD. If I
    >> was paying attention, I probably would've not purchased the model with
    >> XP, but, c'est la vie. It looks very nice. I have the blue coloured one
    >> which is a very nice colour. My first impression is that the 8.9" screen
    >> is comfortable enough to use that I will be taking it on the road as my
    >> sole road machine (and believe me, with the way the airlines are about
    >> carry on, this is a godsend), but not large enough to replace my desktop
    >> screen or my office laptop. It's a UMPC, so I wouldn't expect it to
    >> replace either the desktop or office laptop. Having a 7" Eee 701, I will
    >> say that the 8.9" is a definite usability improvement, though you will
    >> find that some windows will not fit on the screen properly requiring an
    >> alt+mouse_click to move the rest of the window into view.
    >>
    >> The keyboard is something like 95% the size of a normal keyboard. This
    >> makes it comfortable enough to use on a regular basis and touch typists
    >> shouldn't have much of a problem with it. There are some keys that are
    >> sub-sized so that may cause an issue with some keypresses, but the
    >> alphanumeric keys are good. It also has a decent feel to it. One definite
    >> improvement over the Eee 701 is the postion of the shift key and the
    >> arrow cluster. it's normal. One beef I have is with everyone selling
    >> canadian multilingual keyboards. I really dislike how they move the
    >> backslash key next to the quote key and then make the enter key vertical.
    >> This isn't a complaint against Acer though as I'm betting there's some
    >> sort of import directive that requires it. I am sorely tempted to contact
    >> Acer for a replacement Keyboard with a more traditional US layout.
    >>
    >> I played around with the XP install, but that really didn't last long....
    >> about as long as it took to uninstall all the default crap and resize the
    >> partition so I could install XUbuntu.
    >>
    >> I installed XUbuntu 8.04.1 on the unit and I have to say that Firefox 3
    >> is quite excellent in full screen mode with the autohiding URL bar. I did
    >> use it for business purposes with XUbuntu 8.04.1 using it to show a
    >> customer some site survey photos so they could see the problems we were
    >> facing to build an RF link between two sites 2.1km apart. It is
    >> definitely an excellent tool for that sort of work.

    >
    > You mean it didn't crash within 10 minutes?


    And what's installed on 90% of berkeley.edu desktops?, Mr Littlejohn-tard!
    Now, run along, Robert!
    --
    Linux..... isn't that some kind of cheap lavatory tissue?
    http://www.angelfire.com/psy/doctorbill/linux.jpg



































  7. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On 2008-09-24, Andrew Halliwell wrote:
    > alt wrote:
    >> At this point, I'll either continue with the FC8 derived Linpus, or
    >> just switch back to Ubuntu 8.04.1 and deal with the lack of internal card
    >> readers until some time that they are supported. This is something that I
    >> have high hopes will happen. In the interim, I'll just use a USB card
    >> reader. Small price really.

    >
    > Why not just take the linpus kernel and modules...
    > And copy them over to ubuntu?
    > Best of both worlds then?
    > such a task is simple in linux.


    I have been so spoiled by Linux over the years that this thought never
    actually occurred to me. I'll definitely be giving it a try.



  8. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On 2008-09-24, Homer wrote:
    > Verily I say unto thee, that alt spake thusly:
    >
    >> I was disappointed with the lack of support for the card readers. It
    >> appears that there is no driver available for the JMB38X chipset. I
    >> couldn't find any source code for the driver.

    >
    > It's been in the kernel since March:
    >
    > http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-L.../msg01479.html
    >
    > You may need to fetch a vanilla kernel and rebuild:
    >
    > http://kernel.org
    >
    > Chances are the next *Buntu release will have that patchset, so you
    > could just wait.


    As I wrote to another reply in this thread, I've been so spoiled by
    linux for so long that this never crossed my mind. Maybe that's a
    good sign about the maturity of Linux these days. I'll be looking
    into this as well.

    >
    >> I'm not sure what these designers are thinking, but GNU/Linux is _so_
    >> much more than just an embedded system. It is a full desktop system
    >> and I think that these companies are being exceedingly patronizing by
    >> only offering either XP or kiosk Linux. They should at the very least
    >> offer an installation CD that has a "full desktop" install option.

    >
    > They're targeting mainstream consumers, so I'm not surprised they want
    > to dumb it down. However, it's somewhat ironic they should offer XP,
    > since that quickly becomes a maintenance nightmare, so that does seem
    > rather inconsistent of them, if not outright hypocritical. Presumably
    > they simply believe the Vole's marketing gibberish unquestioningly. Did
    > they provide the all-essential AV package for XP? How does that work on
    > such a relatively meagre machine? It'd be interesting to see the benchmarks.


    They did provide the obligatory AV package from McAfee. I uninstalled that
    as well as the Office 2007 Shareware release and some other cruft they
    provided and installed Avast! (in keeping with Int'l Talk like a pirate day).
    As I said, a small thing would be for them to at least offer a "basic"
    kiosk-like install and an "advanced" desktop install. G/L/X can do either.

    The hard drive all that was on is now sitting in a anti-static bag replaced
    with a new 250GB drive which I am messing about with. Of course, until I am
    satisfied with the unit, I'm also lugging around my Eee 701, which aside its
    size, is a very capable and solid unit which has also satisified my mobile
    computing needs (the office laptop never goes with me to a client site in
    the city nor to the co-location facility).


    >
    > As for installation CDs, again that's not the way OEMs operate these
    > days. They like to think they control everything they sell, even after
    > they've sold it (a common affliction in modern business). They probably
    > figure that anyone determined enough to install another distro on these
    > things is likely to be able to do so without their help anyway.


    Apparently, there may be a CD burning option, but as I didn't have a burner
    plugged in it may not have shown it. I'll probably play with that again at
    some point as long as I don't have to disassemble the laptop to change out
    the hard drive.

    >
    >> I don't recommend it simply because of the card readers.

    >
    > Let us know how you get on with the new kernel.


    Will do! I'm actually excited. This is a very nice unit even without the
    card readers. That's my only real complaint. Perhaps I'm just too hasty
    and impatient in my old age (no, I'm not really old... not even middle age
    yet).


  9. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On 2008-09-24, nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu wrote:
    > On Sep 24, 12:36 am, alt wrote:
    >>
    >> I installed XUbuntu 8.04.1 on the unit and I have to say that Firefox 3
    >> is quite excellent in full screen mode with the autohiding URL bar. I did
    >> use it for business purposes with XUbuntu 8.04.1 using it to show a
    >> customer some site survey photos so they could see the problems we were
    >> facing to build an RF link between two sites 2.1km apart. It is
    >> definitely an excellent tool for that sort of work.

    >
    > You mean it didn't crash within 10 minutes? No random freezes or lock-
    > ups? And you were using Ubuntu 8.04? That's Hardy Heron, right?
    >
    > According to DFS, it has to freeze. You must be doing something wrong.


    Ha ha! Way to make my day! Yes. I was using 8.04.1. I also use 8.04
    on my home desktop and my office laptop. I use 7.10 on my Asus Eee 701.

    They don't crash _except_ in one circumstance. When I'm on the road, the
    motel I stay in has an open AP, but my room is too far away for my integrated
    wireless card to work with it. It does, however, work with my Linksys
    USB 802.11b adapter. The catch is that if I lose signal, the machine will
    lock up. No idea why it does that and I don't really care. I just have to keep
    the adapter in the window and shut down before I unplug it.

    Again, small thing that I just haven't bothered to troubleshoot.



  10. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On Sep 24, 7:08*pm, Hadron wrote:
    > "ness...@wigner.berkeley.edu" writes:
    > > On Sep 24, 12:36 am, alt wrote:
    > >> Good day all.

    >
    > >> * I have recently purchased (as in, Saturday) an Acer Aspire One. Just
    > >> thought I'd toss a review your way.

    >
    > >> * The unit I purchased was outfitted with 1GB of RAM and a 120GB HD.If I
    > >> was paying attention, I probably would've not purchased the model with
    > >> XP, but, c'est la vie. It looks very nice. I have the blue coloured one
    > >> which is a very nice colour. My first impression is that the 8.9" screen
    > >> is comfortable enough to use that I will be taking it on the road as my
    > >> sole road machine (and believe me, with the way the airlines are about
    > >> carry on, this is a godsend), but not large enough to replace my desktop
    > >> screen or my office laptop. It's a UMPC, so I wouldn't expect it to
    > >> replace either the desktop or office laptop. Having a 7" Eee 701, I will
    > >> say that the 8.9" is a definite usability improvement, though you will
    > >> find that some windows will not fit on the screen properly requiring an
    > >> alt+mouse_click to move the rest of the window into view.

    >
    > >> The keyboard is something like 95% the size of a normal keyboard. This
    > >> makes it comfortable enough to use on a regular basis and touch typists
    > >> shouldn't have much of a problem with it. There are some keys that are
    > >> sub-sized so that may cause an issue with some keypresses, but the
    > >> alphanumeric keys are good. It also has a decent feel to it. One definite
    > >> improvement over the Eee 701 is the postion of the shift key and the
    > >> arrow cluster. it's normal. One beef I have is with everyone selling
    > >> canadian multilingual keyboards. I really dislike how they move the
    > >> backslash key next to the quote key and then make the enter key vertical.
    > >> This isn't a complaint against Acer though as I'm betting there's some
    > >> sort of import directive that requires it. I am sorely tempted to contact
    > >> Acer for a replacement Keyboard with a more traditional US layout.

    >
    > >> I played around with the XP install, but that really didn't last long.....
    > >> about as long as it took to uninstall all the default crap and resize the
    > >> partition so I could install XUbuntu.

    >
    > >> * I installed XUbuntu 8.04.1 on the unit and I have to say that Firefox 3
    > >> is quite excellent in full screen mode with the autohiding URL bar. I did
    > >> use it for business purposes with XUbuntu 8.04.1 using it to show a
    > >> customer some site survey photos so they could see the problems we were
    > >> facing to build an RF link between two sites 2.1km apart. It is
    > >> definitely an excellent tool for that sort of work.

    >
    > > You mean it didn't crash within 10 minutes? *No random freezes or lock-
    > > ups? *And you were using Ubuntu 8.04? *That's Hardy Heron, right?

    >
    > > According to DFS, it has to freeze. *You must be doing something
    > > wrong.

    >
    > That's a lie. According to DFS a lot of people do have freezing
    > issues. Which they do. Google it up.


    There is a well-known defect when you use Ubuntu 8.01 with the default
    x.org X11 server, and install the proprietary Nvidia binary driver
    modules. The defect was fixed in the x.org X11 server and works fine
    in Ubuntu 8.04.1.

    The Ubuntu group admits that they waited until the new version of the
    x.org server came out, and didn't thoroughly test it with all hardware
    combinations and binary drivers. For most Linux distributions, they
    don't make such substantial changes without releasing it as a beta or
    candidate release rather than as a "ready for everybody" release.

    > "My college theater antics were the inspiration for Robin
    > Williams' character on Mork & Mindy"
    > * * * * * * * * * -- Rex Ballard in comp.os.linux.advocacy


    Boy did you get THAT wrong.

    My high school friends and I did many mork-like antics, and many of
    THEM went on to University of Colorado where they went to school with
    Robin Williams.

    If you are going to attribute me with the quote, at least get the
    quote right. I went to Loretto Heights College, about 40 miles away,
    where I majored in Music-Theater and Performing Arts Management
    (Directing, Conducting, and Business). I got into computers because
    theater didn't pay very well.

    In 1976 I'd gotten the instructions to build a relatively simple 8080
    computer in a ham radio magazine. I needed to build a ham rig to
    renew the General Class Radio license I'd had since 1967. That was a
    few months before the Popular Electronics article. In 1977, I helped
    some computer programming students do their BASIC programming
    homework, and then I took a programming course in college. We used a
    North Star Horizon computer, complete with teletype style keyboard/
    printer.

    I wasn't able to take the computer class in high school, but I did
    help one of my friends who was in the class develop a program to help
    people who wanted to find a car pool to find people who had similar
    start and end points. I did the algorythms and the database for
    Denver Colorodo, but he did the programming.

    I hear Bill did something similar, but he had to map Seattle, which,
    having been there, was a much more interesting challenge.


  11. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On Sep 25, 6:24 am, alt wrote:
    > On 2008-09-24, ness...@wigner.berkeley.edu wrote:
    >
    > > On Sep 24, 12:36 am, alt wrote:

    >
    > >> I installed XUbuntu 8.04.1 on the unit and I have to say that Firefox 3
    > >> is quite excellent in full screen mode with the autohiding URL bar. I did
    > >> use it for business purposes with XUbuntu 8.04.1 using it to show a
    > >> customer some site survey photos so they could see the problems we were
    > >> facing to build an RF link between two sites 2.1km apart. It is
    > >> definitely an excellent tool for that sort of work.

    >
    > > You mean it didn't crash within 10 minutes? No random freezes or lock-
    > > ups? And you were using Ubuntu 8.04? That's Hardy Heron, right?

    >
    > > According to DFS, it has to freeze. You must be doing something wrong.

    >
    > Ha ha! Way to make my day! Yes. I was using 8.04.1. I also use 8.04
    > on my home desktop and my office laptop. I use 7.10 on my Asus Eee 701.
    >
    > They don't crash _except_ in one circumstance. When I'm on the road, the
    > motel I stay in has an open AP, but my room is too far away for my integrated
    > wireless card to work with it. It does, however, work with my Linksys
    > USB 802.11b adapter. The catch is that if I lose signal, the machine will
    > lock up. No idea why it does that and I don't really care. I just have to keep
    > the adapter in the window and shut down before I unplug it.
    >
    > Again, small thing that I just haven't bothered to troubleshoot.


    I forgot to say, thanks for the review. It is really helpful. There
    was a poster on cola a few days ago seeking info about Acer. Can't
    find it now, though.

  12. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review


    "alt" wrote in message
    news:slrngdliob.jug.spamtrap@daniel.lazyeyez.net.. .

    >
    > Ha ha! Way to make my day! Yes. I was using 8.04.1. I also use 8.04
    > on my home desktop and my office laptop. I use 7.10 on my Asus Eee 701.
    >
    > They don't crash _except_ in one circumstance. When I'm on the road, the
    > motel I stay in has an open AP, but my room is too far away for my
    > integrated
    > wireless card to work with it. It does, however, work with my Linksys
    > USB 802.11b adapter. The catch is that if I lose signal, the machine will
    > lock up. No idea why it does that and I don't really care. I just have to
    > keep
    > the adapter in the window and shut down before I unplug it.
    >
    > Again, small thing that I just haven't bothered to troubleshoot.



    May i ask why you run your eeepc with 7.10?
    My 701 is running 8.04 with no real problems, tho I have a modded kernal
    package from eeepc user forum. I'm slowly working on stripping out any
    un-needed packages from it.

    --
    All your carrots are belong to me.



  13. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:28:25 +0100, Digital Donkey wrote:

    > "alt" wrote in message
    > news:slrngdliob.jug.spamtrap@daniel.lazyeyez.net.. .
    >
    >
    >> Ha ha! Way to make my day! Yes. I was using 8.04.1. I also use 8.04 on
    >> my home desktop and my office laptop. I use 7.10 on my Asus Eee 701.
    >>
    >> They don't crash _except_ in one circumstance. When I'm on the road,
    >> the motel I stay in has an open AP, but my room is too far away for my
    >> integrated
    >> wireless card to work with it. It does, however, work with my Linksys
    >> USB 802.11b adapter. The catch is that if I lose signal, the machine
    >> will lock up. No idea why it does that and I don't really care. I just
    >> have to keep
    >> the adapter in the window and shut down before I unplug it.
    >>
    >> Again, small thing that I just haven't bothered to troubleshoot.

    >
    >
    > May i ask why you run your eeepc with 7.10? My 701 is running 8.04 with
    > no real problems, tho I have a modded kernal package from eeepc user
    > forum. I'm slowly working on stripping out any un-needed packages from
    > it.


    It was working. Why change it?

    I am just about to try out "Ubuntu Eee 8.04" with the netbook remix
    interface. Now that I have the Acer, I can "play" a bit with the Eee.

  14. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review


    "alt" wrote in message
    newsan.2008.09.30.01.12.00@lazyeyez.net...
    > On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:28:25 +0100, Digital Donkey wrote:
    >
    >> "alt" wrote in message
    >> news:slrngdliob.jug.spamtrap@daniel.lazyeyez.net.. .
    >>
    >>
    >>> Ha ha! Way to make my day! Yes. I was using 8.04.1. I also use 8.04 on
    >>> my home desktop and my office laptop. I use 7.10 on my Asus Eee 701.
    >>>
    >>> They don't crash _except_ in one circumstance. When I'm on the road,
    >>> the motel I stay in has an open AP, but my room is too far away for my
    >>> integrated
    >>> wireless card to work with it. It does, however, work with my Linksys
    >>> USB 802.11b adapter. The catch is that if I lose signal, the machine
    >>> will lock up. No idea why it does that and I don't really care. I just
    >>> have to keep
    >>> the adapter in the window and shut down before I unplug it.
    >>>
    >>> Again, small thing that I just haven't bothered to troubleshoot.

    >>
    >>
    >> May i ask why you run your eeepc with 7.10? My 701 is running 8.04 with
    >> no real problems, tho I have a modded kernal package from eeepc user
    >> forum. I'm slowly working on stripping out any un-needed packages from
    >> it.

    >
    > It was working. Why change it?
    >
    > I am just about to try out "Ubuntu Eee 8.04" with the netbook remix
    > interface. Now that I have the Acer, I can "play" a bit with the Eee.


    Thats a good enouth reason to me )
    By the time i started to play a bit with the 701 8.04 was out so went
    stright on to that.
    I did try netbook remix on mine but did not really get on with it. I think
    its possably more geared to more powerfull eeepcs. My bro loves it but he's
    on an atom based eeepc.

    --
    All your carrots are belong to me.



  15. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:49:29 +0100, Digital Donkey wrote:

    > Thats a good enouth reason to me )
    > By the time i started to play a bit with the 701 8.04 was out so went
    > stright on to that.
    > I did try netbook remix on mine but did not really get on with it. I
    > think its possably more geared to more powerfull eeepcs. My bro loves it
    > but he's on an atom based eeepc.


    Yeah. I didn't like the netbook interface. And for some reason, neither
    my wired nor my wireless adapter works with 8.04.

    I'm trying 8.10 on my Eee now. Wired worked right after install and
    wireless after the kernel update. I only just installed it last night so
    I haven't really dove into the system and worked out any kinks. My big
    project last night was to switch to XFCE4 as the desktop, WDM for the
    login manager and then get the virtual display size set to 800x800.

  16. Re: UMPC - Acer Aspire One Review

    On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:29:14 +0100, Andrew Halliwell wrote:

    > alt wrote:
    >> At this point, I'll either continue with the FC8 derived Linpus, or
    >> just switch back to Ubuntu 8.04.1 and deal with the lack of internal
    >> card readers until some time that they are supported. This is something
    >> that I have high hopes will happen. In the interim, I'll just use a USB
    >> card reader. Small price really.

    >
    > Why not just take the linpus kernel and modules... And copy them over to
    > ubuntu?
    > Best of both worlds then?
    > such a task is simple in linux.


    I tried this but came across one little problem. I like JFS and I use it
    on my installs, so I didn't think twice when I installed Xubuntu 8.04.1
    on the laptop using JFS. Turns out, the Linpus kernel is compiled without
    JFS support.

    My choices are to either reinstall on ext3 or to just live with it. I've
    decided to live with it.


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