On Aug 27, 5:13*pm, Snit wrote:
> Who said it:
>
> * * Another challenge for Linux as a platform will be consistency.
> * * The Unix wars are evidence of what can happen when an operating
> * * system fragments.

Jim Zemlin - Executive Director of the Linux foundation.

> Any guesses? *No fair looking it up!

I cheated and looked it up.

Here's the full quote

Jim: I believe that as Linux grows and expands there will be several
challenges. First will be one of continuing to allow more people to
participate in the development process. Large parts of the world have
not yet joined in the development process in China, India, Eastern
Europe and other areas due to language barriers or low awareness of
Linux. We hope to help that by providing forums where key developers
can spread the word about Linux and open source in these regions.
Another challenge for Linux as a platform will be consistency. The
Unix wars are evidence of what can happen when an operating system
fragments. Through our work at the Foundation with the Linux Standard
Base we hope to provide a degree of consistency across the various
versions of Linux so that developers can easily target the platform.
Finally, I believe we will need to continue to respond to competitive
FUD about legal risks around Linux or other ridiculous claims and I
believe the Foundation is in a good role to make that response.

One of the main reasons why Linux was as well supported as it was, was
because it was a working kernel that had been published exclusively
under the GPL (GPLv2). As a result, any enhancements or changes, any
"forks" had to be submitted back to the development organization.
Very often, the team had to make a choice between several excellent
solutions, and a key element of this was assurances that the code
being submitted was original code and not plagiarized.

Many libraries and applications were released under the BSD license,
but whenever possible, the code released under the GPL license is
chosen over the BSD code. All of this is intended to provide the
maximum possible compatibility and assurance of future compatibility.

There are many Open Source libraries and toolkits, especially in the
graphics and desktop domain, which compete, but remain compatible by
following the guidelines of the ICCCM, a set of standards which
assures that all ICCCM compliant Applications can run on all ICCCM
desktops or window managers.

Ironically, even UNIX is 99.9% compatible with other versions of UNIX
as well as Linux, and when OSS compilers, libraries, and toolkits are
used, that code will compile and run on Linux, nearly all versions of
UNIX, and even Windows.

In addition, Platform Independent Java is providing the ability to
compile source into Java applications or plug-ins and run the code on
most versions of UNIX and Linux.

"Rex Ballard" stated in post
97fa80f9-7452-4461-a621-eef8bbdd27b0...oglegroups.com on 8/27/08
5:19 PM:

> On Aug 27, 5:13*pm, Snit wrote:
>> Who said it:
>>
>> * * Another challenge for Linux as a platform will be consistency.
>> * * The Unix wars are evidence of what can happen when an operating
>> * * system fragments.
>
> Jim Zemlin - Executive Director of the Linux foundation.
>
>> Any guesses? *No fair looking it up!
>
> I cheated and looked it up.

My goodness, man, have you no shame!

> Here's the full quote
>
> Jim: I believe that as Linux grows and expands there will be several
> challenges. First will be one of continuing to allow more people to
> participate in the development process. Large parts of the world have
> not yet joined in the development process in China, India, Eastern
> Europe and other areas due to language barriers or low awareness of
> Linux. We hope to help that by providing forums where key developers
> can spread the word about Linux and open source in these regions.
> Another challenge for Linux as a platform will be consistency. The
> Unix wars are evidence of what can happen when an operating system
> fragments. Through our work at the Foundation with the Linux Standard
> Base we hope to provide a degree of consistency across the various
> versions of Linux so that developers can easily target the platform.

And the above is, again, not exactly what I say - I focus more on user
issues and less on programmer issues - but very much of the same mind.
Weird why there is so much resentment for those views in COLA.

> Finally, I believe we will need to continue to respond to competitive
> FUD about legal risks around Linux or other ridiculous claims and I
> believe the Foundation is in a good role to make that response.
>
> One of the main reasons why Linux was as well supported as it was, was
> because it was a working kernel that had been published exclusively
> under the GPL (GPLv2). As a result, any enhancements or changes, any
> "forks" had to be submitted back to the development organization.
> Very often, the team had to make a choice between several excellent
> solutions, and a key element of this was assurances that the code
> being submitted was original code and not plagiarized.
>
> Many libraries and applications were released under the BSD license,
> but whenever possible, the code released under the GPL license is
> chosen over the BSD code. All of this is intended to provide the
> maximum possible compatibility and assurance of future compatibility.
>
> There are many Open Source libraries and toolkits, especially in the
> graphics and desktop domain, which compete, but remain compatible by
> following the guidelines of the ICCCM, a set of standards which
> assures that all ICCCM compliant Applications can run on all ICCCM
> desktops or window managers.
>
> Ironically, even UNIX is 99.9% compatible with other versions of UNIX
> as well as Linux, and when OSS compilers, libraries, and toolkits are
> used, that code will compile and run on Linux, nearly all versions of
> UNIX, and even Windows.
>
> In addition, Platform Independent Java is providing the ability to
> compile source into Java applications or plug-ins and run the code on
> most versions of UNIX and Linux.
>
>



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