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  1. Refuting Herrera FUD


    Details:



    Thy used a wireless network for sensitive information, and it was only
    protected with WEP. WEP takes under 30 seconds to crack--for all
    practical purposes for an attacker, it is equivalent to an open WiFi
    network.

    Herrera also made this claim:

    > One of the entry points was the restaurant chain Dave and Buster's
    > which had decided to replace their trusty Solaris server with Windows.


    That's also FUD, as the attack there did not involve servers.

    --
    --Tim Smith

  2. Re: Refuting Herrera FUD

    * Tim Smith peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > Details:
    >
    >
    >
    > Thy used a wireless network for sensitive information, and it was only
    > protected with WEP. WEP takes under 30 seconds to crack--for all
    > practical purposes for an attacker, it is equivalent to an open WiFi
    > network.
    >
    > Herrera also made this claim:
    >
    >> One of the entry points was the restaurant chain Dave and Buster's
    >> which had decided to replace their trusty Solaris server with Windows.

    >
    > That's also FUD, as the attack there did not involve servers.


    In any case, although Win NT 4 was somewhat insecure, the follow-ons
    (2000 and 2003 Server) are much better and can be secured pretty well.

    No matter what the platform, security takes some work.

    --
    Who is John Galt?

  3. Re: Refuting Herrera FUD

    On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:25:54 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

    > Details:
    >
    >
    >
    > Thy used a wireless network for sensitive information, and it was only
    > protected with WEP. WEP takes under 30 seconds to crack--for all
    > practical purposes for an attacker, it is equivalent to an open WiFi
    > network.
    >
    > Herrera also made this claim:
    >
    >> One of the entry points was the restaurant chain Dave and Buster's
    >> which had decided to replace their trusty Solaris server with Windows.

    >
    > That's also FUD, as the attack there did not involve servers.


    Herrera is a liar...

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    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
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  4. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windows servers

    Ramon F Herrera espoused:
    >
    >
    > Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    >> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    >> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    >> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    >> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    >> among others."
    >>
    >> http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html
    >>
    >> -RFH

    >
    >
    > One of the entry points was the restaurant chain Dave and Buster's
    > which had decided to replace their trusty Solaris server with Windows.
    > Bad idea.
    >
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...andbusters.com
    >


    Oops. Nobody should ever consider putting sensitive data onto Windows
    machines, they always get cracked in the end.

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  5. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windowsservers

    Mark Kent wrote:
    > Ramon F Herrera espoused:
    >>
    >> Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >>> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    >>> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    >>> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    >>> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    >>> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    >>> among others."
    >>>
    >>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html
    >>>
    >>> -RFH

    >>
    >> One of the entry points was the restaurant chain Dave and Buster's
    >> which had decided to replace their trusty Solaris server with Windows.
    >> Bad idea.
    >>
    >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...andbusters.com
    >>

    >
    > Oops. Nobody should ever consider putting sensitive data onto Windows
    > machines, they always get cracked in the end.


    Windows Vista (the current version) "always get cracked in the end"?

    Steve

  6. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windows servers

    Steve de Mena espoused:
    > Mark Kent wrote:
    >> Ramon F Herrera espoused:
    >>>
    >>> Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >>>> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    >>>> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    >>>> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    >>>> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    >>>> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    >>>> among others."
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html
    >>>>
    >>>> -RFH
    >>>
    >>> One of the entry points was the restaurant chain Dave and Buster's
    >>> which had decided to replace their trusty Solaris server with Windows.
    >>> Bad idea.
    >>>
    >>> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...andbusters.com
    >>>

    >>
    >> Oops. Nobody should ever consider putting sensitive data onto Windows
    >> machines, they always get cracked in the end.

    >
    > Windows Vista (the current version) "always get cracked in the end"?
    >


    Yes. There have been stacks of problems already. A quick google finds
    loads, here's a particularly amusing one:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6320865.stm

    There are over 1,000,000 viruses and trojans out there for Windows
    already.

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  7. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windowsservers

    On Aug 6, 1:26*pm, Steve de Mena wrote:
    > Mark Kent wrote:
    > > Ramon F Herrera espoused:

    >
    > >> Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    > >>> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    > >>> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    > >>> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    > >>> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    > >>> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    > >>> among others."

    >
    > >>>http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html

    >
    > >>> -RFH

    >
    > >> One of the entry points was the restaurant chain Dave and Buster's
    > >> which had decided to replace their trusty Solaris server with Windows.
    > >> Bad idea.

    >
    > >>http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...andbusters.com

    >
    > > Oops. *Nobody should ever consider putting sensitive data onto Windows
    > > machines, they always get cracked in the end.

    >
    > Windows Vista (the current version) "always get cracked in the end"?
    >
    > Steve


    Linux guys just can't read or do their homework.
    Just like at, "Vienna"?

    It was a wireless crack. But linux is safe,
    as it just got wireless, more or less, started,
    in last month. LMAO.

    Most linux guys must be hair dressers.

  8. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windows servers

    On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:40:08 -0700 (PDT), Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote:

    > On Aug 6, 1:26*pm, Steve de Mena wrote:
    >> Mark Kent wrote:
    >>> Ramon F Herrera espoused:

    >>
    >>>> Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >>>>> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    >>>>> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    >>>>> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    >>>>> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    >>>>> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    >>>>> among others."

    >>
    >>>>>http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html

    >>
    >>>>> -RFH

    >>
    >>>> One of the entry points was the restaurant chain Dave and Buster's
    >>>> which had decided to replace their trusty Solaris server with Windows.
    >>>> Bad idea.

    >>
    >>>>http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...andbusters.com

    >>
    >>> Oops. *Nobody should ever consider putting sensitive data onto Windows
    >>> machines, they always get cracked in the end.

    >>
    >> Windows Vista (the current version) "always get cracked in the end"?
    >>
    >> Steve

    >
    > Linux guys just can't read or do their homework.
    > Just like at, "Vienna"?
    >
    > It was a wireless crack. But linux is safe,
    > as it just got wireless, more or less, started,
    > in last month. LMAO.
    >
    > Most linux guys must be hair dressers.


    After seeing what Linux users have to go through to get wireless working on
    some machines, Linux probably IS safe.

    The reason being most people give up trying to get it running so you are
    unlikely to find a Linux machine using wireless in the first place.

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAa!

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  9. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windowsservers

    On Aug 5, 7:54 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    > "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    > Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    > hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    > Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    > Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    > among others."
    >
    > http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html
    >
    > -RFH



    http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3923

    TJ Maxx:
    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...www.tjmaxx.com

    Marshall's:
    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...allsonline.com

    Forever 21:
    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?....forever21.com

    Boston Market:
    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...stonmarket.com

    Barnes & Noble:
    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...esandnoble.com

    DSW:
    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.dsw.com

    ....and last, but not least:

    TJX Companies:
    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.tjx.com

    I rest my case...

    -Ramon


  10. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windows servers

    On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:12:46 -0700 (PDT), Ramon F Herrera wrote:

    > On Aug 5, 7:54 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    >> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    >> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    >> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    >> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    >> among others."
    >>
    >> http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html
    >>
    >> -RFH

    >
    >
    > http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3923
    >
    > TJ Maxx:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...www.tjmaxx.com
    >
    > Marshall's:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...allsonline.com
    >
    > Forever 21:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?....forever21.com
    >
    > Boston Market:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...stonmarket.com
    >
    > Barnes & Noble:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...esandnoble.com
    >
    > DSW:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.dsw.com
    >
    > ...and last, but not least:
    >
    > TJX Companies:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.tjx.com
    >
    > I rest my case...
    >
    > -Ramon


    Nice try....
    Now go back and read how they did their dirty work...
    And BTW the original article you posted said nothing about Windows.

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    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
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  11. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windowsservers

    On Aug 6, 7:12*pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    > On Aug 5, 7:54 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >
    > > "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    > > Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    > > hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    > > Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    > > Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    > > among others."

    >
    > >http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html

    >
    > > -RFH

    >
    > http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3923
    >
    > TJ Maxx:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...www.tjmaxx.com
    >
    > Marshall's:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...ww.marshallson...
    >
    > Forever 21:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?....forever21.com
    >
    > Boston Market:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...w..bostonmarke...
    >
    > Barnes & Noble:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...ww.barnesandno...
    >
    > DSW:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.dsw.com
    >
    > ...and last, but not least:
    >
    > TJX Companies:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...2Fwww..tjx.com
    >
    > I rest my case...
    >
    > -Ramon


    Did you miss the wireless part?
    Get some new glasses.

  12. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windows servers

    On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:25:53 -0700 (PDT), Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote:

    > On Aug 6, 7:12*pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >> On Aug 5, 7:54 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    >>> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    >>> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    >>> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    >>> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    >>> among others."

    >>
    >>>http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html

    >>
    >>> -RFH

    >>
    >> http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3923
    >>
    >> TJ Maxx:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...www.tjmaxx.com
    >>
    >> Marshall's:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...ww.marshallson...
    >>
    >> Forever 21:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?....forever21.com
    >>
    >> Boston Market:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...ww.bostonmarke...
    >>
    >> Barnes & Noble:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...ww.barnesandno...
    >>
    >> DSW:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.dsw.com
    >>
    >> ...and last, but not least:
    >>
    >> TJX Companies:http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.tjx.com
    >>
    >> I rest my case...
    >>
    >> -Ramon

    >
    > Did you miss the wireless part?
    > Get some new glasses.


    if there was any doubt as to how far some of the Linux loons will LIE for
    LIEnix, this thread should remove all doubt.

    Notice how you don't hear a peep from Schestowitz, kent or any of the other
    cult members.

    Why>

    Seeding Google with false, positive to Linux, negative to Microsoft
    information is what it is all about.

    And they don't care how false their information is.
    As long as it furthers the Linux cult cause it's acceptable.

    Ramon probably got a gold star for this post.


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    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
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  13. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windowsservers

    Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    > On Aug 5, 7:54 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    >> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    >> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    >> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    >> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    >> among others."
    >>
    >> http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html
    >>
    >> -RFH

    >
    >
    > http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3923
    >
    > TJ Maxx:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...www.tjmaxx.com
    >
    > Marshall's:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...allsonline.com
    >
    > Forever 21:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?....forever21.com
    >
    > Boston Market:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...stonmarket.com
    >
    > Barnes & Noble:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...esandnoble.com
    >
    > DSW:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.dsw.com
    >
    > ...and last, but not least:
    >
    > TJX Companies:
    > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.tjx.com
    >
    > I rest my case...
    >
    > -Ramon


    You listed some public web sites. Probably not even hosted or managed
    by those companies.

    Bzzzzt.

    Steve

  14. Re: 40 million credit cards hacked from companies that use Windows servers

    On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:12:02 -0700, Steve de Mena wrote:

    > Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >> On Aug 5, 7:54 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
    >>> "Under the indictments, three Miami, Florida, men -- Albert "Segvec"
    >>> Gonzalez, Christopher Scott and Damon Patrick Toey -- are accused of
    >>> hacking into the wireless computer networks of retailers including TJX
    >>> Companies, whose stores include Marshall's and T.J. Maxx, BJ's
    >>> Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Barnes and Noble and Sports Authority,
    >>> among others."
    >>>
    >>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/05/...ges/index.html
    >>>
    >>> -RFH

    >>
    >>
    >> http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3923
    >>
    >> TJ Maxx:
    >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...www.tjmaxx.com
    >>
    >> Marshall's:
    >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...allsonline.com
    >>
    >> Forever 21:
    >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?....forever21.com
    >>
    >> Boston Market:
    >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...stonmarket.com
    >>
    >> Barnes & Noble:
    >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...esandnoble.com
    >>
    >> DSW:
    >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.dsw.com
    >>
    >> ...and last, but not least:
    >>
    >> TJX Companies:
    >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...%2Fwww.tjx.com
    >>
    >> I rest my case...
    >>
    >> -Ramon

    >
    > You listed some public web sites. Probably not even hosted or managed
    > by those companies.
    >
    > Bzzzzt.
    >
    > Steve


    Ramon F Herrera is trying to save face because he realizes that he was
    exposed in COLA as a total liar.

    One interesting point is to notice that not a single Linux advocate has
    corrected his blatant error.
    Not one.

    why?

    They are interested in Google indesxing and nothing more.

    Anything Microsoft negative, no matter how false stands uncorrected.
    Anything pro Linux, no matter how false stands uncorrected.


    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

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