On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:13:30 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:21:05 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080718/...7lMt8L0MUjtBAF

>
>
> It seems like associating ones business with Linux is the kiss of death
> these days.
>
> I wouldn't touch an AMD processor with a barge pole.
> As for ATI I made that mistake once, never again...
> Total crap.


A good Linux machine should have a decent nvidia inside, agreed. It's
shocking to see that the debian goatse crowd is ditching decent nvidia
support by having the nvidia driver install procedure go awry on its
distros. That sucks. Anyways, don't tell me hat AMD processors are bad
gear. I recently installed a boxed AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 6000+ on a
Asrock board using its standard CPU cooler. Wow this gear rocks my friend :

Date: 21 Jul 2008 21:00:01 -0000
From: root@hubble.stokkie.net
To: stock@jackson.stokkie.net
Subject: crk-linux : 3014.726 MHz, +42.5 C

************************************************** **********************
*** Mon Jul 21 23:00:00 CEST 2008 : crk-linux output sensors
************************************************** **********************

w83627hf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore 1: +1.34 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
VCore 2: +1.39 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
+3.3V: +3.31 V (min = +3.14 V, max = +3.47 V)
+5V: +5.08 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V)
+12V: +11.19 V (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)
-12V: +0.30 V (min = -13.18 V, max = -10.80 V) ALARM
-5V: +1.58 V (min = -5.25 V, max = -4.75 V) ALARM
V5SB: +5.54 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V) ALARM
VBat: +2.24 V (min = +2.40 V, max = +3.60 V) ALARM
fan1: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8)
fan2: 3125 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8)
fan3: 0 RPM (min = 1418 RPM, div = 8) ALARM
temp1: +37 C (high = -37 C, hyst = -11 C) sensor = thermistor
ALARM
temp2: +42.5 C (high = +80 C, hyst = +75 C) sensor = thermistor
temp3: +38.0 C (high = +80 C, hyst = +75 C) sensor = thermistor
ERROR: Can't get VID data!
alarms:
beep_enable:
Sound alarm enabled

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 67
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 3014.726
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext
3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips : 6035.64
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

processor : 1
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 67
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 3014.726
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 1
cpu cores : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext
3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips : 6029.77
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

This was four days ago. Today it was a hot summer day with temperatures
about 100 oF. The power management is setup to not snibble Giga Hertz
speed away, but just improve its cooler performance :

Date: 25 Jul 2008 15:00:01 -0000
From: root@hubble.stokkie.net
To: stock@jackson.stokkie.net
Subject: crk-linux : 3014.726 MHz, +46.5 C

************************************************** **********************
*** Fri Jul 25 17:00:00 CEST 2008 : crk-linux output sensors
************************************************** **********************

w83627hf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore 1: +1.34 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
VCore 2: +1.41 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM
+3.3V: +3.30 V (min = +3.14 V, max = +3.47 V)
+5V: +5.08 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V)
+12V: +11.19 V (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)
-12V: +0.22 V (min = -13.18 V, max = -10.80 V) ALARM
-5V: +1.58 V (min = -5.25 V, max = -4.75 V) ALARM
V5SB: +5.54 V (min = +4.76 V, max = +5.24 V) ALARM
VBat: +2.24 V (min = +2.40 V, max = +3.60 V) ALARM
fan1: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8)
fan2: 5113 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 8)
fan3: 0 RPM (min = 1418 RPM, div = 8) ALARM
temp1: +43 C (high = -37 C, hyst = -11 C) sensor = thermistor
ALARM
temp2: +46.5 C (high = +80 C, hyst = +75 C) sensor = thermistor
temp3: +40.5 C (high = +80 C, hyst = +75 C) sensor = thermistor
ERROR: Can't get VID data!
alarms:
beep_enable:
Sound alarm enabled

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 67
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 3014.726
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext
3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips : 6035.64
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

processor : 1
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 67
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 3014.726
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 1
cpu cores : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext
3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
bogomips : 6029.77
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

Used distro is Mandrake 10.1 (has got a decent KDE desktop without
unneeded bloat) upon which i installed kernel :

Linux crk-linux.stokkie.net 2.6.15 #2 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 21 22:30:34 CEST 2008
x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ unknown GNU/Linux

I activated ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support --->
and CPU Frequency scaling ---> with <*> AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow!
All of : Device Drivers ---> I2C support ---> and next switched on
Device Drivers ---> Hardware Monitoring support ---> Select All as
modules. As you see the "AMD Opteron/Athlon64 PowerNow!" should be inside
the vmlinuz kernel itself. Next i ran urpmi lm_sensors of which you
see the output above.

I could have selected "Maximum used CPU power" as limiting constraint, but
instead I fixed the CPU frequency at 3.0 GHz, where upon when the heat is
on, the CPU cooler raises it RPM from 3000 rpm to 5113 RPM as it should be.

This baby (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+) rockz My
Friend! Apparently there's even a 3.2 GHz edition for sale, but that one
was unavailable at the time. Looking at its price ( EUR 90,=) and the fact
that even Intel's fastest Quad Core is "only" running at 3.2 GHz, AMD has
a winner here. The difference? Hey, did you ever see a 3.0 GHz CPU running
at +46.5oC when at full load on a hot summer day?

Robert
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org stock@stokkie.net