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  1. Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doing nothing

    "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"

    #272 at
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...freeze&page=28



  2. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doingnothing

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:

    > "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >
    > #272 at
    > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?

    s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28

    Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu



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  3. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doing nothing


    "Rick" wrote in message
    news:WOOdnYT-J8aNoubVnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@supernews.com...
    > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >
    >> "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >>
    >> #272 at
    >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?

    > s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
    >
    > Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu


    Linux is "just the kernel" - except when it isn't.


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  4. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doing nothing

    > Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu
    >
    > --
    > Rick


    Linux, in the mind of the user (non linux geek),
    is what-ever distro they are using.
    Unless it is buggy, then it is not.




  5. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doing nothing

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick

    wrote
    on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:57:04 -0500
    :
    > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >
    >> "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >>
    >> #272 at
    >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?

    > s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
    >
    > Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu
    >


    Does it make a difference? Multiple systems are
    *freezing*. Whether this is a suspension issue or what,
    I don't know (page 1 suggests such, for one user).

    It is likely that there are multiple issues here, and if
    so, one wonders how to isolate them properly and fix them.

    (Of course one way to "fix" them is to go to Vista, but
    that's a sledgehammer-pursuing-a-flea solution.)

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  6. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doingnothing

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:13:38 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

    > "Rick" wrote in message
    > news:WOOdnYT-J8aNoubVnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@supernews.com...
    >> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >>>
    >>> #272 at
    >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?

    >> s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
    >>
    >> Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu

    >
    > Linux is "just the kernel" - except when it isn't.
    >
    >
    > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


    Yes, I realize you don't understand that a problem with one version of
    one distro doesn't necessarily effect every other distro.



    --
    Rick

  7. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doingnothing

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:00:07 -0700, Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote:

    >> Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu
    >>
    >> --
    >> Rick

    >
    > Linux, in the mind of the user (non linux geek), is what-ever distro
    > they are using.


    So you are also claiming clairvoyance?

    > Unless it is buggy, then it is not.






    --
    Rick

  8. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doingnothing

    "Rick" stated in post
    BJWdnRRDvoiKK-bVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/14/08 1:24 PM:

    > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:13:38 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >
    >> "Rick" wrote in message
    >> news:WOOdnYT-J8aNoubVnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@supernews.com...
    >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >>>>
    >>>> #272 at
    >>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
    >>> s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
    >>>
    >>> Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu

    >>
    >> Linux is "just the kernel" - except when it isn't.
    >>
    >>
    >> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

    >
    > Yes, I realize you don't understand that a problem with one version of
    > one distro doesn't necessarily effect every other distro.
    >
    >

    You sure make up a lot of views for others.

    Shows you cannot actually respond to what you read.


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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
    nothing. - Unknown


  9. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doingnothing

    "Rick" stated in post
    BJWdnRdDvoiiK-bVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/14/08 1:25 PM:

    > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:00:07 -0700, Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote:
    >
    >>> Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Rick

    >>
    >> Linux, in the mind of the user (non linux geek), is what-ever distro
    >> they are using.

    >
    > So you are also claiming clairvoyance?


    Clearly *not*!

    Wow. Just wow.

    >> Unless it is buggy, then it is not.

    >
    >
    >
    >




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  10. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doingnothing

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:17:41 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

    > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick
    >
    > wrote
    > on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:57:04 -0500
    > :
    >> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >>>
    >>> #272 at
    >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?

    >> s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
    >>
    >> Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu
    >>
    >>

    > Does it make a difference? Multiple systems are *freezing*. Whether
    > this is a suspension issue or what, I don't know (page 1 suggests such,
    > for one user).


    Yes. DFS continually tries to say that one problem that effects one
    version of a distro effects every other distro.

    >
    > It is likely that there are multiple issues here, and if so, one wonders
    > how to isolate them properly and fix them.


    Yes, it is likely. But it is also like they don't effect every other
    Linux based distro out there, as DFS implies.

    >
    > (Of course one way to "fix" them is to go to Vista, but that's a
    > sledgehammer-pursuing-a-flea solution.)




    --
    Rick

  11. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doing nothing

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick

    wrote
    on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:27:57 -0500
    :
    > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:17:41 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >
    >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick
    >>
    >> wrote
    >> on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:57:04 -0500
    >> :
    >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >>>>
    >>>> #272 at
    >>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
    >>> s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
    >>>
    >>> Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Does it make a difference? Multiple systems are *freezing*. Whether
    >> this is a suspension issue or what, I don't know (page 1 suggests such,
    >> for one user).

    >
    > Yes. DFS continually tries to say that one problem that effects one
    > version of a distro effects every other distro.


    Under certain conditions, it most certaily could -- an
    actual bug in the Linux kernel, for instance. Still, one
    wonders; I've seen minor pauses while copying/processing
    files on my nx9010, but not a hard freeze.

    >
    >>
    >> It is likely that there are multiple issues here, and if so, one wonders
    >> how to isolate them properly and fix them.

    >
    > Yes, it is likely. But it is also like they don't effect every other
    > Linux based distro out there, as DFS implies.


    No way to know, really, until the actual causes are identified.
    Information at this point is rather lacking.

    >
    >>
    >> (Of course one way to "fix" them is to go to Vista, but that's a
    >> sledgehammer-pursuing-a-flea solution.)

    >


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    architectures I've seen in a computer system.
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  12. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doingnothing

    On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:53:38 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

    > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick
    >
    > wrote
    > on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:27:57 -0500
    > :
    >> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:17:41 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >>
    >>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick
    >>>
    >>> wrote
    >>> on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:57:04 -0500
    >>> :
    >>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >>>>>
    >>>>> #272 at
    >>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
    >>>> s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
    >>>>
    >>>> Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> Does it make a difference? Multiple systems are *freezing*. Whether
    >>> this is a suspension issue or what, I don't know (page 1 suggests
    >>> such, for one user).

    >>
    >> Yes. DFS continually tries to say that one problem that effects one
    >> version of a distro effects every other distro.

    >
    > Under certain conditions, it most certaily could -- an actual bug in the
    > Linux kernel, for instance. Still, one wonders; I've seen minor pauses
    > while copying/processing files on my nx9010, but not a hard freeze.


    Yes, under certain conditions. But those aren't be singled out by DFS.

    >
    >
    >>
    >>> It is likely that there are multiple issues here, and if so, one
    >>> wonders how to isolate them properly and fix them.

    >>
    >> Yes, it is likely. But it is also like they don't effect every other
    >> Linux based distro out there, as DFS implies.

    >
    > No way to know, really, until the actual causes are identified.
    > Information at this point is rather lacking.


    Does every distro suffer from the exact problem DFS points out in any one
    distro? Uh, no.

    >>
    >>> (Of course one way to "fix" them is to go to Vista, but that's a
    >>> sledgehammer-pursuing-a-flea solution.)

    >>






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    Rick

  13. Re: Linux: the only OS more likely to freeze when it's doing nothing

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick

    wrote
    on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:30:26 -0500
    :
    > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:53:38 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >
    >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick
    >>
    >> wrote
    >> on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:27:57 -0500
    >> :
    >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:17:41 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick
    >>>>
    >>>> wrote
    >>>> on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:57:04 -0500
    >>>> :
    >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:07:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "Hardy is more likely to freeze when left alone"
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> #272 at
    >>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
    >>>>> s=ed00c455a4ad05aeae500e888568c592&t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Ubuntu != Linux != Ubuntu
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> Does it make a difference? Multiple systems are *freezing*. Whether
    >>>> this is a suspension issue or what, I don't know (page 1 suggests
    >>>> such, for one user).
    >>>
    >>> Yes. DFS continually tries to say that one problem that effects one
    >>> version of a distro effects every other distro.

    >>
    >> Under certain conditions, it most certaily could -- an actual bug in the
    >> Linux kernel, for instance. Still, one wonders; I've seen minor pauses
    >> while copying/processing files on my nx9010, but not a hard freeze.

    >
    > Yes, under certain conditions. But those aren't be singled out by DFS.


    Assuming he's even the original reporter of the problem.
    DFS most likely is a go-between. Of course DFS never
    mentions here the many users having problems installing
    Microsoft Windows Vista.

    Perhaps it's because he's slightly....biased. But then, so am I. ;-)

    >
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>>> It is likely that there are multiple issues here, and if so, one
    >>>> wonders how to isolate them properly and fix them.
    >>>
    >>> Yes, it is likely. But it is also like they don't effect every other
    >>> Linux based distro out there, as DFS implies.

    >>
    >> No way to know, really, until the actual causes are identified.
    >> Information at this point is rather lacking.

    >
    > Does every distro suffer from the exact problem DFS points out
    > in any one distro? Uh, no.


    No way for me to know unless the original poster tries
    other distros on the same hardware.

    Do they show the same problem? I don't know.

    >
    >>>
    >>>> (Of course one way to "fix" them is to go to Vista, but that's a
    >>>> sledgehammer-pursuing-a-flea solution.)
    >>>

    >


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