On Jul 13, 4:47 pm, "Moshe Goldfarb." wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:34:25 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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> > We don¢t want you to talk, Mr. Ballmer
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> So freedom and *Open Source" is only valid when it meets *your*
> criteria....

No, it's just that we have seen what happens when Microsoft "Embraces"
the technology of a Rival. I like to say, Microsoft "embraces" rival
technology, like a python "embraces" a gazelle, crushing every bit of
life out of it, until it can swallow it whole.

Microsoft "Embraced" TCP/IP - but implementing the minimal subset -
while preserving proprietary protocols such as NetBIOS and SMB and
WINS, and replaced RARP with DHCP, to circumvent security systems
established by Unix administrators. The result, viruses running amok
all over corporate networks, being passed through "shared drives" like
an infection through a pre-school.

Microsoft "Embraced" the "Web", but added ActiveX controls, in an
attempt to kill CORBA and Java, with the result of Viruses being
passed through Outlook and IE like the SARS virus in a Japanese
airport.

Microsoft "Embraced" scripting - in VBA, but the proprietary nature
resulted in macro viruses that spread faster than olive oil on a hot
griddle - Jane's resume whacked millions of computers, as did ILoveYou
and a few other macroviruses.

Microsoft "Embraced" LDAP - but then redefined authentication field
allowing anyone with access to the Cert Authority to gain total access
to the entire corporate network.

Microsoft "Embraced" virtualization, purchasing a third-rate
competitor and offering a Virtualization solution that could only work
on Windows, not Linux. And now Microsoft is surprised that they can't
seem to squeeze the life out of VMWare - in fact, it's thriving.

Microsoft "Embraced" search portals, offering search functions on MSN,
but throwing irrelevant advertising in with marginally relevant
content links. And they wonder why Google, who matches ad content to
intrests, seems to be getting the lion's share of advertising revenue,
and why Yahoo won't agree to an exclusive take-over deal that will
exclude Google (and it's revenues). And when Google offers to share
some of their revenue with Yahoo, Microsoft used it's close friendship
with George Bush and the DOJ to initiate an antitrust investigation
into this revenue sharing and these nonexclusive deals.

Now Microsoft wants to "Embrace" Open Source. They can't get PCs to
"phone home" if they aren't running Windows as the primary operating
system, and as more and more machines run Linux as the primary with
Windows as a VM "Client", it's getting harder to get a real picture of
the competition. They can't see who is using Linux, OpenOffice, and
other OSS software, when the user is running these applications on
LInux, so now Microsoft wants to participate in the "Open Census"
getting Linux PCs to "phone home" to Microsoft, so they can get that
strategic marketing information.

Microsoft wants to find out who is using Linux and OSS so they can
figure out who to "kill", or "neutralize".them. Killing someone
usually means inducing them to leave a client with deep pockets in
exchange for a position where their sphere of influence will be
smaller or more easily contained (a loyal Microsoft customer).
Neutralizing someone usually means helping the employer place a
Microsoft friendly manager just above the "problem" with the ability
to block any attempts to influence upper management.

And you wonder why we aren't particularly thrilled when Steve Ballmer
tells us he wants to "Embrace" the Open Source community.






> That sounds about right for the Linux community.
>
> You either follow what the zealots say, completely, without question, or
> they will organize a boycott against you.
>
> You are sounding more like a screwball every day Roy Schestowitz..
>
> --
> Moshe Goldfarb
> Collector of soaps from around the globe.
> Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

* Rex Ballard peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Microsoft "Embraced" TCP/IP - but implementing the minimal subset...
> Microsoft "Embraced" the "Web", but added ActiveX controls...
> Microsoft "Embraced" scripting - in VBA, but the proprietary nature...
> Microsoft "Embraced" LDAP - but then redefined authentication field...
> Microsoft "Embraced" virtualization, purchasing a third-rate...
> Microsoft "Embraced" search portals, offering search functions on MSN...
> Now Microsoft wants to "Embrace" Open Source.

You do the math .

--
Mitchell's Law of Committees:
Any simple problem can be made insoluble if enough meetings are
held to discuss it.

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:35:19 -0700 (PDT), Rex Ballard wrote:

> On Jul 13, 4:47 pm, "Moshe Goldfarb." wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:34:25 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
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>>> We don¢t want you to talk, Mr. Ballmer
>>
>> So freedom and *Open Source" is only valid when it meets *your*
>> criteria....
>
> No, it's just that we have seen what happens when Microsoft "Embraces"
> the technology of a Rival. I like to say, Microsoft "embraces" rival
> technology, like a python "embraces" a gazelle, crushing every bit of
> life out of it, until it can swallow it whole.

Welcome to the real world.

The list of companies IBM has done this to is endless.

My point is this, look at the loonies in this group.

They are paranoid, wacky and just plain nuts in some cases.

And if that wasn't enough, most of them are hypocrites because they fly the
Linux flag in full color by night but earn their living using Windows and
proprietary software by day.

I wouldn't have a problem with this except that they are preaching from the
pulpit, unlike say a normal Windows/Linux user whose company just happens
to use Windows but they prefer Linux.

That's the difference between a hypocrite like Mark Kent and most Linux
users.


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Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/