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    On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:20:54 -0400, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

    > MINIX 3 and Sound Card Buzz!

    Who cares?

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    MINIX 3 and Sound Card Buzz!

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    | MINIX has been around for a while now, and to all of those who think that
    | Linux is better, just remember this: MINIX is older than Linux! In fact,
    | Linus Torvalds (creator of Linux) used MINIX as inspiration and a guide
    | when writing Linux.
    | If you are interested in MINIX, and don't feel like dual-booting or
    | getting rid of your current operating system, MINIX can be run on a
    | virtual machine. See http://www.minix3.org/doc/faq.html#simulators for
    | more details!



    DIY CPU demo'd running Minix

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    | Bill Buzbee offered the first public demonstration of the Minix OS -- a
    | cousin of Linux -- running on his homebrew minicomputer, today at the Vintage
    | Computer Festival in Mountain View, Calif. Magic-1, built with 74-series TTL
    | ICs using wire-wrap construction, implements a homebrew, 8086-like ISA. * *


    Interview with Dr Andrew S Tanenbaum

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    | Andrew S Tanenbaum: A couple of years ago this guy called Ken Brown
    | wrote a book saying that Linus stole Linux from me, from Minix,
    | and therefore the intellectual property rights are unclear and
    | therefore companies shouldn't use Linux because I might sue them.
    | It later came out that Microsoft had paid him to do this --
    | and I defended Linus. I wrote on my Web site saying that this
    | guy Brown came through, visited me and I gave him the
    | [correct] story.


    Debian GNU/Minix

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    | Finally someone has seen the light and started a project that I called for in
    | a previous article. This melding of the Minix kernel with the GNU userland is
    | called Preventa, and seems to poke fun at the name Nexenta, a similar project
    | using the Solaris kernel, all in good fun I’m sure, considering that the
    | project leader’s blog is called “La Salle Debain” (a play on “Debian” and the
    | French for “bathroom”). * *


    Minix 3.1.3

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    | This isn't Ubuntu Linux, or even Linux at all, and it shows. That's
    | not necessarily a bad thing, but you need to know what you're
    | getting into.


    Release Notes of MINIX 3.1.3 - Developer's Interim Release

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    | MINIX 3.1.3 was released friday, april 13th 2007. It is not a full-quality,
    | stable release but a work-in-progress interim release.


    Review of Minix 3.1.2a IDE build2

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    | There has been some controversy regarding the intertwined histories
    | of Linux and Minix. It's true that Linus Torvalds used Minix and the
    | first versions of Linux required a Minix system to boot from.
    | [...]
    | The overall feel of Minix is super lightweight and fast. It reminds
    | me of older Unix systems with the behaviour of some of the
    | system tools.


    MINIX: what is it, and why is it still relevant?

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    | MINIX, as originated by Andy Tanenbaum, is an operating system that
    | has its roots and heart in academia as a tool that teaches you how
    | kernels really should work. Recently, however, with the advent of
    | version three of this rock solid OS, the focus is on making a
    | production ripe embedded distribution.


    Comparing Linux and Minix

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    | The UnixBench results (raw results: Minix, Linux) paint a rather
    | different picture. These results are summarized in the plot to the
    | left; the upper bar for each test represents Linux. The measured
    | system call overhead for Minix is a full ten times higher than
    | the value for Linux. The file copy tests ran between two and ten
    | times faster on Linux. Pipe throughput differed by a factor of
    | seven; Minix was 140 times slower at process creation. The
    | difference in shell script execution performance, however, was
    | 1.4 - in Minix's favor. One assumes that the rather simple shell
    | provided by Minix is, at least, faster than bash.


    Tanenbaum outlines his vision for a grandma-proof OS

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    | Software today is blighted by being too bloated, says Andrew Tanenbaum
    | [...]
    | "Maybe the direction Linux could go would be [as] the system that is
    | ultra reliable, that works all the time and has not got all the
    | problems that you get in Windows," he suggested.


    Andrew Tanenbaum: Operating systems' Mr Reliable

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    | Almost 20 years on, what would you say has been MINIX's
    | contribution to society?
    | Well, it has educated hundreds of thousands of students worldwide
    | in operating system design. It also led to Linux. I doubt that
    | Linus would have written Linux if he hadn't had the MINIX source
    | code to study carefully. I think that it will yet show that the
    | only way to make a system truly reliable is to make it small
    | and modular.

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