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  1. Getting Distro's to Work Together

    There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's.
    I wonder if there is a way to get people working together.

  2. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:12:38 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:

    > There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's. I wonder if
    > there is a way to get people working together.


    One of the reasons there are a lot of distros is the particular team
    decided there was a need that wasn't being addressed, so they launched
    their own distro.

    And a LOT of people work together.

    --
    Rick

  3. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    * Rick peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:12:38 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >
    >> There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's. I wonder if
    >> there is a way to get people working together.

    >
    > One of the reasons there are a lot of distros is the particular team
    > decided there was a need that wasn't being addressed, so they launched
    > their own distro.
    >
    > And a LOT of people work together.


    And do you know there are a lot of distros?

    Because it is fairly easy to make one.

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  4. Re: Getting fsckwits to FOAD

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:24:49 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    > Rick wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:12:38 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >>
    >>> There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's. I wonder if
    >>> there is a way to get people working together.

    >>
    >> One of the reasons there are a lot of distros is the particular team
    >> decided there was a need that wasn't being addressed, so they launched
    >> their own distro.
    >>
    >> And a LOT of people work together.

    >
    > Trolls (and their masters at Micro$oft) *hate* the idea of software
    > freedom. They want to control and tax.


    Wongo cupcake.....

    I suspect Microsoft doesn't like free software anymore than GM would like
    Ford giving away cars for free but most people, myself included, are in
    favor of free software and use it when the quality is good enough to get
    the job done.

    That's the problem with Linux.
    The quality often isn't good enough to get the job done.


    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
    http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

  5. Re: Getting fsckwits to FOAD

    > That's the problem with Linux.
    > The quality often isn't good enough to get the job done.


    linux is what i call the AVERAGE OS.
    it does an average overall job. not great,
    but average. IF YOU KNOW HOW.
    Linux takes a lot of KNOW HOW.
    Even IF EQUAL to Windows, people KNOW
    HOW to do windows. So the learning curve is
    good.

    i like it on basic business desktops.
    not the specialists.


  6. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    On Jul 3, 1:36*pm, Rick wrote:
    > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:12:38 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    > > There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's. I wonder if
    > > there is a way to get people working together.

    >
    > One of the reasons there are a lot of distros is the particular team
    > decided there was a need that wasn't being addressed, so they launched
    > their own distro.
    >
    > And a LOT of people work together.
    >
    > --
    > Rick


    why can't we just have LIKE 1 LINUX DISTRO CORE,
    where the menu's AND control panels are the same,
    and let you skin it like you want. skin away.

    AND HAVE APPLICATIONS THAT CAN PLUG IN.
    not be so hard to set up you need specialist
    distro's. like panel plug in's.

    why does X Distro have these options,
    and Y does not? Plug and Play not being
    taught yet?

    that concept has been around
    computers for at least 10 years now.

    I like linux. it seems to be a hard coded
    OS.



  7. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together


    > And a LOT of people work together.
    >
    > --
    > Rick


    think how much better it could be if
    more people worked together?

    i guess you don't understand the dynamics.

  8. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    On 2008-07-03, Psyc Geek wrote:
    > On Jul 3, 1:36*pm, Rick wrote:
    >> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:12:38 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >> > There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's. I wonder if
    >> > there is a way to get people working together.

    >>
    >> One of the reasons there are a lot of distros is the particular team
    >> decided there was a need that wasn't being addressed, so they launched
    >> their own distro.
    >>
    >> And a LOT of people work together.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Rick

    >
    > why can't we just have LIKE 1 LINUX DISTRO CORE,
    > where the menu's AND control panels are the same,
    > and let you skin it like you want. skin away.
    >
    > AND HAVE APPLICATIONS THAT CAN PLUG IN.


    We have that now. Any claims to the contrary are
    just FUD. You can even rip applications out of
    packages for other distributions if you really wanted
    too.

    > not be so hard to set up you need specialist
    > distro's. like panel plug in's.


    You mean like MythBuntu which is just regular
    Ubuntu with a particlar meta-package installed?

    >
    > why does X Distro have these options,
    > and Y does not? Plug and Play not being
    > taught yet?


    More FUD.

    >
    > that concept has been around
    > computers for at least 10 years now.
    >
    > I like linux. it seems to be a hard coded
    > OS.


    That would be why I can take a program and copy
    it from one distribution to another without needing
    to worry about any silliness like registry edits or
    what obscure shared library dependencies there are.

    A lot of the bells and whitles in "other operating
    systems" are there because it's byzantine to begin with.

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  9. Re: Getting fsckwits to FOAD

    On 2008-07-03, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >> That's the problem with Linux.
    >> The quality often isn't good enough to get the job done.

    >
    > linux is what i call the AVERAGE OS.
    > it does an average overall job. not great,
    > but average. IF YOU KNOW HOW.
    > Linux takes a lot of KNOW HOW.
    > Even IF EQUAL to Windows, people KNOW
    > HOW to do windows. So the learning curve is


    No. People don't know how to do Windows.

    They get their local Linux geek to do something
    "complicated" like hooking up a camera, hooking
    up a scanner, setting up filesharing or making
    an audio CD out of some mp3s.

    Anything from an ST to MacOSX is simple if you
    can think in terms of what you want to do and
    don't get flustered by minor visual differences.

    This type of thing comes in real handy every time
    that Microsoft decides how to change it's interfaces.

    > good.
    >
    > i like it on basic business desktops.
    > not the specialists.
    >



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  10. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:35:32 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:

    > On Jul 3, 1:36*pm, Rick wrote:
    >> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:12:38 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >> > There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's. I wonder
    >> > if there is a way to get people working together.

    >>
    >> One of the reasons there are a lot of distros is the particular team
    >> decided there was a need that wasn't being addressed, so they launched
    >> their own distro.
    >>
    >> And a LOT of people work together.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Rick

    >
    > why can't we just have LIKE 1 LINUX DISTRO CORE, where the menu's AND
    > control panels are the same, and let you skin it like you want. skin
    > away.


    Talk to Hadron.

    >
    > AND HAVE APPLICATIONS THAT CAN PLUG IN. not be so hard to set up you
    > need specialist distro's. like panel plug in's.


    What applications are so hard to use you need a specialist?

    >
    > why does X Distro have these options, and Y does not? Plug and Play not
    > being taught yet?


    Plug and play is no mystaery. Plug and play is just havig the drivers
    installed already.

    >
    > that concept has been around
    > computers for at least 10 years now.
    >
    > I like linux. it seems to be a hard coded OS.


    What?


    --
    Rick

  11. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:38:17 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:

    >> And a LOT of people work together.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Rick

    >
    > think how much better it could be if
    > more people worked together?
    >
    > i guess you don't understand the dynamics.


    Yeah. Right. I've only been using Linux for almost 10 years, and I don't
    understand the dynamics.

    You clearly don't understand the concept of people are allowed to package
    and distribute software almost any way they want.


    --
    Rick

  12. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    JEDIDIAH wrote:
    > That would be why I can take a program and copy
    > it from one distribution to another without needing
    > to worry about any silliness like registry edits or
    > what obscure shared library dependencies there are.


    Indeed... for years after SuSE dropped elm, I'd grab it from the
    mandrake/mandriva repositories and install it. Worked fine.
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  13. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    "Rick" stated in post
    nMidnUsiSscE2PDVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/3/08 2:33 PM:

    > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:38:17 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >
    >>> And a LOT of people work together.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Rick

    >>
    >> think how much better it could be if
    >> more people worked together?
    >>
    >> i guess you don't understand the dynamics.

    >
    > Yeah. Right. I've only been using Linux for almost 10 years, and I don't
    > understand the dynamics.


    Wow: that does not speak well of you.

    > You clearly don't understand the concept of people are allowed to package
    > and distribute software almost any way they want.


    You often insist what others do or not "understand" in a very dishonest way.

    Why not try to be honest, Rick?



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  14. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:40:07 -0700, Snit wrote:

    > "Rick" stated in post
    > nMidnUsiSscE2PDVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/3/08 2:33 PM:
    >
    >> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:38:17 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >>
    >>>> And a LOT of people work together.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Rick
    >>>
    >>> think how much better it could be if
    >>> more people worked together?
    >>>
    >>> i guess you don't understand the dynamics.

    >>
    >> Yeah. Right. I've only been using Linux for almost 10 years, and I
    >> don't understand the dynamics.

    >
    > Wow: that does not speak well of you.


    Wow, I see you are too stupid to recognize sarcasm. I guess now you
    selectively quote and try to prove I don't understand the dynamics.

    >
    >> You clearly don't understand the concept of people are allowed to
    >> package and distribute software almost any way they want.

    >
    > You often insist what others do or not "understand" in a very dishonest
    > way.


    >
    > Why not try to be honest, Rick?


    Michael Glasser, why do you insist on needling people? Why do you insist
    on being such an ass? And, after you have needled people, why do you cry
    when they retaliate?

    You are a pathetic excuse for a human being.

    --
    Rick

  15. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    "Rick" stated in post
    nMidnUoiSsd81vDVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/3/08 3:00 PM:

    > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:40:07 -0700, Snit wrote:
    >
    >> "Rick" stated in post
    >> nMidnUsiSscE2PDVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@supernews.com on 7/3/08 2:33 PM:
    >>
    >>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:38:17 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> And a LOT of people work together.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> Rick
    >>>>
    >>>> think how much better it could be if
    >>>> more people worked together?
    >>>>
    >>>> i guess you don't understand the dynamics.
    >>>
    >>> Yeah. Right. I've only been using Linux for almost 10 years, and I
    >>> don't understand the dynamics.

    >>
    >> Wow: that does not speak well of you.

    >
    > Wow, I see you are too stupid to recognize sarcasm. I guess now you
    > selectively quote and try to prove I don't understand the dynamics.


    I did not "selectively quote" - I quoted your whole post!

    Yes, I know you *meant* to be sarcastic... but, frankly, you failed.
    Sarcasm does not work well when you accidentally speak the truth, as you
    did.

    >>> You clearly don't understand the concept of people are allowed to
    >>> package and distribute software almost any way they want.

    >>
    >> You often insist what others do or not "understand" in a very dishonest
    >> way.

    >
    >>
    >> Why not try to be honest, Rick?

    >
    > Michael Glasser, why do you insist on needling people? Why do you insist
    > on being such an ass? And, after you have needled people, why do you cry
    > when they retaliate?
    >
    > You are a pathetic excuse for a human being.


    Wow... you are sure lashing out today!

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  16. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    * JEDIDIAH peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > On 2008-07-03, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >>
    >> I like linux. it seems to be a hard coded
    >> OS.


    What complete IDIOCY!

    > That would be why I can take a program and copy
    > it from one distribution to another without needing
    > to worry about any silliness like registry edits or
    > what obscure shared library dependencies there are.


    I run a system with the Fluxbox window manager, with Gnome, KDE,
    Fox-toolkit, wxWidgets, and console applications, with an XFCE settings
    manager and GTK and Qt window rendering, and no desktop icons. I can
    edit the menu to my heart's content, and I can have keystrokes for
    almost every conceivable desktop mouse action.

    How much more non-hard-coded can you get.

    And I'm not even talking about any tailoring of the kernel I did when
    installed a new version.

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  17. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    * Rick peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:35:32 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >
    >> On Jul 3, 1:36*pm, Rick wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:12:38 -0700, Psyc Geek wrote:
    >>> > There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's. I wonder
    >>> > if there is a way to get people working together.
    >>>
    >>> One of the reasons there are a lot of distros is the particular team
    >>> decided there was a need that wasn't being addressed, so they launched
    >>> their own distro.
    >>>
    >>> And a LOT of people work together.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Rick

    >>
    >> why can't we just have LIKE 1 LINUX DISTRO CORE, where the menu's AND
    >> control panels are the same, and let you skin it like you want. skin
    >> away.

    >
    > Talk to Hadron.


    Talk to the handor!

    >> I like linux. it seems to be a hard coded OS.

    >
    > What?


    He's got to be pulling our leg. No one can be that ****ing dumb.

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  18. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Psyc Geek

    wrote
    on Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
    <9b1fac6c-7f4a-4b8b-95cc-b9b79a636ab9@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
    > There is a LOT of duplication of effort in all the Distro's.
    > I wonder if there is a way to get people working together.


    Identification of the duplication of effort is a start;
    perhaps you can be more specific?

    I know of at least one other developer who reads COLA for his amusement.
    :-)

    How far did you want to go with this? The logical end
    of the road here is a Linux monopoly, one distro, used by
    all Linux users.

    (Linux is indeed a monopoly at the kernel level, as it's the
    only Linux kernel, and even then, patches abound, if one
    needs them. Also, one can freely modify the source to
    suit his or her own needs.)

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  19. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:34:02 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:


    > How far did you want to go with this? The logical end of the road here
    > is a Linux monopoly, one distro, used by all Linux users.



    His endpoint would be one OS, and it wouldn't be Linux.



    -Thufir

  20. Re: Getting Distro's to Work Together

    In comp.os.linux.advocacy, thufir

    wrote
    on Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:40:02 GMT
    :
    > On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:34:02 -0700, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
    >
    >
    >> How far did you want to go with this? The logical end of the road here
    >> is a Linux monopoly, one distro, used by all Linux users.

    >
    >
    > His endpoint would be one OS, and it wouldn't be Linux.
    >


    A distinct possibility, indeed. Of course one does have to
    ask the interesting (and probably ultimately unanswerable,
    especially in COLA :-) ) question as to how many distros
    or OSes are too many, anyway -- especially when mobiles
    are dragged into the mix.

    >
    >
    > -Thufir


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