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This is a discussion on If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it? - Linux ; Ezekiel wrote: > The license: > http://www.openoffice.org/license.html > > And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept: > http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png > > You don't own OpenOffice any more than you own any other software. It is licensed. Are you that ...

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  1. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have toagree to the license terms in order to use it?

    Ezekiel wrote:
    > The license:
    > http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >
    > And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept:
    > http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png
    >
    >


    You don't own OpenOffice any more than you own any other software. It is
    licensed. Are you that stupid, that dishonest, or both?

  2. If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    The license:
    http://www.openoffice.org/license.html



    And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept:
    http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png




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  3. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have toagree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    > The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >
    > And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png
    >
    > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**




    Retarded Ezekiel:

    "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"

    -RFH




  4. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:17:55 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

    > The license:
    > http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >
    >
    >
    > And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept:
    > http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png


    Probably so you can't sue them when your documents don't work properly on
    your clients machines all of which will be running MSOffice.

    So when you lose clients, jobs, your business due to being cheap and
    attempting to use copycat software you can't take legal action against
    them.




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  5. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>
    >> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png

    >
    > Retarded Ezekiel:
    >
    > "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"


    Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.

    --
    In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things
    happen and how they happen. I don't know if there's a god or not, but I
    think religious principles are quite valid.
    -- Bill Gates, PBS interview with David Frost (November 1995)

  6. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    Micosahft fraudster and asstroturfer Ezekiel wrote on behalf of Half Wits
    from Micoshaft Corporation:

    > The license:
    > http://www.openoffice.org/license.html



    Its free as in freedom dumb fsck, not free as in free beer.

    It is worthwhile you understanding free software before asstroturfing on
    behalf of Micoshaft Corporation with concepts you don't understand.


  7. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:

    > * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >
    >> On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >>> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>
    >>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must
    >>> accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png

    >>
    >> Retarded Ezekiel:
    >>
    >> "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"

    >
    > Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.


    A few bricks short of a building.

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  8. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On 2008-06-02, William Poaster claimed:
    > On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:
    >
    >> * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >>
    >>> On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >>>> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>>
    >>>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must
    >>>> accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png
    >>>
    >>> Retarded Ezekiel:
    >>>
    >>> "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"

    >>
    >> Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.

    >
    > A few bricks short of a building.


    A few cells short of a brain.

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  9. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?


    "William Poaster" wrote in message
    newsan.2008.06.02.18.55.38.125707@leafnode.AMD64.eu...
    > On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:
    >
    >> * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >>
    >>> On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >>>> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>>
    >>>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must
    >>>> accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png
    >>>
    >>> Retarded Ezekiel:
    >>>
    >>> "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"

    >>
    >> Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.

    >
    > A few bricks short of a building.


    Another "me too, me too" post from dumb Willy who's never had an original
    thought in his life.



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  10. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have toagree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:01:25 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

    > "William Poaster" wrote in message
    > newsan.2008.06.02.18.55.38.125707@leafnode.AMD64.eu...
    >> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:
    >>
    >>> * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >>>
    >>>> On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >>>>> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must
    >>>>> accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup_guide/img/

    setup_license.png
    >>>>
    >>>> Retarded Ezekiel:
    >>>>
    >>>> "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"
    >>>
    >>> Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.

    >>
    >> A few bricks short of a building.

    >
    > Another "me too, me too" post from dumb Willy who's never had an
    > original thought in his life.


    A few chips shy of a full board.....

    >
    >
    >
    > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **



  11. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:17:55 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >The license:
    >http://www.openoffice.org/license.html




    >And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept:
    >http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png


    "You may only copy and distribute this program consistent with the requirements
    and distribute program consistent with the requirements of either the GNU
    general public licence..... or the sun industry standards source license..."


    Yeah, how DARE they say that you can use it for free as long as you don't
    claim it is your own work?


    When you buy something from microsoft, it is *yours*. Take that copy of
    microsoft office, rename it mycompany office, remove the copy protection, and
    sell a million copies. Microsoft won't say a thing, right?


    You trolls sure are getting desperate.

  12. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:15:31 -0500, Sinister Midget wrote:
    >On 2008-06-02, William Poaster claimed:
    >> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:
    >>
    >>> * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >>>
    >>>> On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >>>>> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must
    >>>>> accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png
    >>>>
    >>>> Retarded Ezekiel:
    >>>>
    >>>> "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"
    >>>
    >>> Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.

    >>
    >> A few bricks short of a building.


    >A few cells short of a brain.


    Just a few? He's a full brain short of having a brain.

  13. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:15:31 -0500, Sinister Midget wrote:

    > On 2008-06-02, William Poaster claimed:
    >> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:
    >>
    >>> * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >>>
    >>>> On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >>>>> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must
    >>>>> accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png
    >>>>
    >>>> Retarded Ezekiel:
    >>>>
    >>>> "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"
    >>>
    >>> Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.

    >>
    >> A few bricks short of a building.

    >
    > A few cells short of a brain.


    A 10K brain attached to a 9600 baud mouth.

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  14. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:17:44 -0500, alt wrote:

    > On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:01:25 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >
    >> "William Poaster" wrote in message
    >> newsan.2008.06.02.18.55.38.125707@leafnode.AMD64.eu...
    >>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >>>>>> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must
    >>>>>> accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup_guide/img/

    > setup_license.png
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Retarded Ezekiel:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"
    >>>>
    >>>> Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.
    >>>
    >>> A few bricks short of a building.

    >>
    >> Another "me too, me too" post from dumb Willy who's never had an
    >> original thought in his life.


    Oh l00k! Zeke parroting the party line as laid down by Hardon Quack.
    Now what was the troll saying about "me too"...

    > A few chips shy of a full board.....


    A couple of volts below threshold.

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  15. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    * alt peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:01:25 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >
    >> "William Poaster" wrote in message
    >> newsan.2008.06.02.18.55.38.125707@leafnode.AMD64.eu...
    >>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> * Ramon F Herrera peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Jun 2, 12:17 pm, "Ezekiel" wrote:
    >>>>>> The license:http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must
    >>>>>> accept:http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup_guide/img/

    > setup_license.png
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Retarded Ezekiel:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "If air is free, how come I cannot do anything I want with it?"
    >>>>
    >>>> Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.
    >>>
    >>> A few bricks short of a building.

    >>
    >> Another "me too, me too" post from dumb Willy who's never had an
    >> original thought in his life.

    >
    > A few chips shy of a full board.....


    And a few hotfixes short of a service-pack.

    --
    The finest pieces of software are those where one individual has a complete
    sense of exactly how the program works. To have that, you have to really
    love the program and concentrate on keeping it simple, to an incredible
    degree.
    -- Bill Gates

  16. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have to agree to the license terms in order to use it?

    * AZ Nomad peremptorily fired off this memo:

    > On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:17:55 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >>The license:
    >>http://www.openoffice.org/license.html

    >
    >>And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept:
    >>http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png

    >
    > "You may only copy and distribute this program consistent with the requirements
    > and distribute program consistent with the requirements of either the GNU
    > general public licence..... or the sun industry standards source license..."
    >
    > Yeah, how DARE they say that you can use it for free as long as you don't
    > claim it is your own work?
    >
    > When you buy something from microsoft, it is *yours*. Take that copy of
    > microsoft office, rename it mycompany office, remove the copy protection, and
    > sell a million copies. Microsoft won't say a thing, right?
    >
    > You trolls sure are getting desperate.


    The problem with open-source trolling is that open-source (for want of a
    more inclusive term) is kicking the ass of proprietary software in some
    important ways.

    So trollers have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find something to
    complain about.

    Personally, I never would have thought today's kind of truly open-source
    ecosystem, supported by a gigantic community, would ever have come to
    exist. And, not only exist, but even start to intrude on the commercial
    world.

    I can download an SMP-capable 64-bit system and run it on cheap hardware
    as my home server, and my Windows-using family can access its services
    almost seamlessly.

    Ya gotta love it.

    --
    The Internet is becoming the town square for the global village of tomorrow.
    -- Bill Gates

  17. Re: OpenOffice is free and you own it, but Sun mistakenly thoughtyou have to agree to LGPL license terms in order to use it?

    Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    > On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:50:56 -0500, Rick wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:38:38 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:18:52 +0100, Homer wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> For the benefit of a) those too stupid to understand licensing and b)
    >>>> those who have an aversion to MeToo posts, here's the explanation for
    >>>> the dialogue box:
    >>> I'll make sure and let the 8 people or so who are using OpenOffice know
    >>> about this earth shattering revelation.
    >>>
    >>> Hint: the license dialog box is the least of Open Offices worries.

    >> And what worries does OO.o have?

    >
    > You have to be kidding...


    No, I am not.

    > Please stop wasting my time.


    Please stop wasting ours.

    >
    > Try playing find it with jeddiah....
    > I don't have time for your fluff....
    >

    Too bad countering your lies takes so much time.

  18. Re: If OpenOffice is free and you own it, then why do you have toagree to the license terms in order to use it?

    Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
    > On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:49:36 -0500, Rick wrote:
    >
    >> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:17:55 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
    >>
    >>> The license:
    >>> http://www.openoffice.org/license.html
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> And here's the MANDATORY license agreement you must accept:
    >>> http://www.openoffice.org/docs/setup...up_license.png
    >>>

    >> "You can freely modify, extend, and improve the OpenOffice.org source
    >> code. The LGPL requires that all changes must be made available if
    >> published. For more information on the LGPL, please also visit the Free
    >> Software Foundation's FAQ: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html."

    >
    > Well gee willickers!
    > Can you please have someone speed the dammed thing up?
    >
    >

    Is it your position that all complex software upgrades are "faster" then
    previous versions?

  19. OpenOffice is free and you own it, but Sun mistakenly thought youhave to agree to LGPL license terms in order to use it?

    Verily I say unto thee, that Linonut spake thusly:
    > * alt peremptorily fired off this memo:
    >>> "William Poaster" wrote in message
    >>> newsan.2008.06.02.18.55.38.125707@leafnode.AMD64.eu...
    >>>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:08:32 -0400, Linonut wrote:


    >>>>> Zeke is a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.
    >>>> A few bricks short of a building.

    >> A few chips shy of a full board.....

    > And a few hotfixes short of a service-pack.

    And a few troll-posts short of a paycheque.

    For the benefit of a) those too stupid to understand licensing and b)
    those who have an aversion to MeToo posts, here's the explanation for
    the dialogue box:

    As it clearly states in that dialogue box, the software may have been
    obtained with one of several licensing conditions. If it were not for
    the existence of alternatively licensed versions and trademarks, then
    there would be no need for confirmation. Remember Sun also sells Star
    Office, which shares the same OOo codebase.

    Those who get OpenOffice through their distro vendor, typically never
    see this dialogue box (this is certainly true of Fedora, for example).

    Even upstream have decided that this license confirmation box is quite
    unnecessary, and have removed it:

    Description: Opened: Mon Apr 7 11:38:00 +0000 2008

    - follow up issue for 22905:
    - showing license at office start is no longer needed
    - therefore license dialog for installation is obsolete too
    http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88008

    Also see:

    OOo is now LGPL only. In issue 23755 it is stated that acceptance of
    GPL license agreement is not required for each individual user.

    ....

    I'm fine with the removal of the LGPL license agreement dialog. set
    target 3.0 for this.
    http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=22905

    Part of the issue is, as stated above, that OOo is (was) released under
    several different licenses, but much of the confusion stems from the
    fact that Sun were traditionally a proprietary software vendor, and are
    somewhat backwards when it comes to fully understanding the ethos of
    Free Software. To them, a license agreement confirmation is (was) an
    inherent part of software deployment ... it's just taken them a while to
    figure out that such things do not apply in the world of Free Software.

    Mozilla seems to have repeated that mistake with Firefox 3, but then the
    MPL is not exactly the GPL, and Mozilla does have a bit of a reputation
    for enforcing additional restrictions on their "Free" Software. Red Hat
    Legal are currently talking to Mozilla about this new "issue".

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  20. Re: OpenOffice is free and you own it, but Sun mistakenly thought you have to agree to LGPL license terms in order to use it?

    On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:18:52 +0100, Homer wrote:


    > For the benefit of a) those too stupid to understand licensing and b)
    > those who have an aversion to MeToo posts, here's the explanation for
    > the dialogue box:


    I'll make sure and let the 8 people or so who are using OpenOffice know
    about this earth shattering revelation.

    Hint: the license dialog box is the least of Open Offices worries.

    --
    Moshe Goldfarb
    Collector of soaps from around the globe.
    Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
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